The B-52 Line of Maximum Destruction

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Dark Skies

Dark Skies

Жыл бұрын

As darkness settled in the North Vietnamese countryside on December 18, 1972, the first aircraft in a massive force of 129 B-52 Stratofortresses heavy bombers approached its target, with its characteristic engine humming in the background.
At 7:43pm, the Hoa Lac Airfield, located only 15 miles west of the North Vietnamese capital city, was impacted.
For the next 12 days, the theory and viability of American high-altitude strategic bombardment would be put to the test once more, aiming for some of the most heavily defended targets in the history of aerial warfare, even to this day.
In an attempt to force the North Vietnamese into returning to the negotiating table, Operation Linebacker II employed air power to its maximum capabilities, targeting radio stations, railroads, power plants, and airfields.
With the 1972 mission, the United States Strategic Air Command assembled the largest heavy bomber strikes ever launched by the service since World War 2…
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@tenthdimension9836
@tenthdimension9836 Жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned what a blunder it was to continue having the b-52s fly the exact same pattern day after day even after some had been shot down. It took the loss of 15 b-52s before they changed up the pattern. That was pretty much an unconscionable mistake.
@richardschwarz7071
@richardschwarz7071 Жыл бұрын
The loss of that many aircraft as well as the aircrews is what happens when politicians run a war instead of letting the trained warfighters do their jobs.....
@jackshittle
@jackshittle Жыл бұрын
@@seshmaru Actually all of the evil NVA are in hell smoking a turd.
@jackshittle
@jackshittle Жыл бұрын
@@seshmaru U.S. Pilots & NFO's relished dropping every single bomb dropped on the communist, evil NVA.
@frosty3693
@frosty3693 Жыл бұрын
@@richardschwarz7071 Kennedy would have probably pulled out early, like he did in Cuba. But he go killed and that left Johnson and his buddies to fight a war they were determined to almost win. The press back then treated the war about the same way they did Trump.
@gryph01
@gryph01 Жыл бұрын
There were a lot of blunders in all branches during Vietnam. The lesson learned is to keep the politicians out of operations.
@michaelfolse2871
@michaelfolse2871 2 ай бұрын
My dad was a B-52 electronics warfare officer during this mission. I'm very thankful he made it back.
@harrylumsdon6773
@harrylumsdon6773 4 күн бұрын
So was mine.
@bgreen2266
@bgreen2266 Жыл бұрын
busy nights of the operation the B-52 Crews proved that the bomber was still as iconic as it was during the latter phase of World War II - The B-52 took its maiden flight in April 1952.
@dennisrogers8107
@dennisrogers8107 Жыл бұрын
Agree ......... the BUFF is truly iconic to fly in WWII (ended September, 1945) when it's first flight was in 1952 and it wasn't introduced into the Air Force until 1955. A 10 year time traveler is impressive.
@donodono2287
@donodono2287 Жыл бұрын
Same year that dumb-ass Khrushchev transferred Crimea over to Ukraine for administrative purposes. After it had been a part of Russia for 350 years. The US military-industrial complex is now reaping what he sowed. Hooya.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael Жыл бұрын
I presume the confusion came from the B29 being known as the Superfortress and the B52 as the Stratofortress.
@michaelwilliams8955
@michaelwilliams8955 Жыл бұрын
Yes I wondered if anyone else picked up on that too. Looks like they did.
@sheltr9735
@sheltr9735 Жыл бұрын
Separately, I noted the same thing A responder clarified for me: "...proved that BOMBERS (in the generic sense) were still as iconic..."
@brandongreen2222
@brandongreen2222 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought in that war twice. Captain Bill Rollins im thankful i had you as my grandfather 🇺🇸🇺🇸
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Жыл бұрын
l was in an F-4 Phantom on that day and i am in my 80's now....Thanks...... Shoe🇺🇸
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Жыл бұрын
@@sheltr9735 Many thanks
@2990rick
@2990rick Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@ninemilliondollars
@ninemilliondollars Жыл бұрын
Wow! We have one at our aviation musuem in Illinois and it's a beast. Looking at the small seats strapped to those two huge engines had to be an unbelievable experience. Did you have air-to-air combat with Migs? And how often going supersonic? Didn't they burn 40,000 lbs of fuel per hour when above the speed of sound?
@pimpinaintdeadho
@pimpinaintdeadho 4 ай бұрын
Didn't that have super thin wings? Were you nervous about structural integrity on high G maneuvers?
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 4 ай бұрын
@@pimpinaintdeadho No not at all and i think you are thinking about an F-104 Starfighter it did have super thin wings.....Thanks my friend Shoe🇺🇸
@rengarcia5189
@rengarcia5189 Жыл бұрын
Having experienced it firsthand when I was in the Air Force, there is no sound on this planet that creates more fear and dread than the sound of an approaching B52. It's truly terror inducing.
@rengarcia5189
@rengarcia5189 Жыл бұрын
@Chris Riff-RAF 206 I've experienced the Avro Vulcan and it's damn impressive. But, I was crawled up the tailpipe of an F16 looking for FOD when a passing B52 decided to buzz the hangar. I heard a furtive rumble that escalated to a tooth-rattling howl. I could hear pictures falling off the walls taking a hard ride to the floor. And just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, it did. All I could do was curl up into the fetal position and beg for it to be over.
@gmilla49304
@gmilla49304 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing it launch at least once a night, and those plumes of exhaust it left behind, unforgettable.
@phillipjones3342
@phillipjones3342 Жыл бұрын
I was in the Air Force from 1970 to 1974 security police squadron. Yes you’re right.
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 Жыл бұрын
A Stuka in a dive towards you?
@TheFrozenDesert
@TheFrozenDesert Жыл бұрын
A-10 has entered the chat. BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT!
@conradnelson5283
@conradnelson5283 Жыл бұрын
I remember linebacker ll. But I never knew how massive it was. Thank you.
@hwoods01
@hwoods01 Жыл бұрын
It was so massive, that the Air Force literally ran out of targets to bomb. They destroyed everything that was remotely useful in Hanoi & Haiphong.
@mtnride4930
@mtnride4930 Жыл бұрын
I was stationed at March AFB during that operation, I was in flight medicine and worked with those air crews. 22nd bomb wing. We lost a number of buffs.
@havu-oj4qh
@havu-oj4qh Жыл бұрын
US barbarity didn't win over Vietnamese will to unity Vietnam.
@jwhitaker4908
@jwhitaker4908 11 ай бұрын
@@hwoods01 AND THEN COVERED IT UP THREE OR FOUR TIMES
@WootTootZoot
@WootTootZoot Жыл бұрын
I was stationed on Guam, 43rd SPS, SAC, Andersen AFB during the 1972/73 Arc Light and Linebacker missions. Crazy times.
@danduffy7974
@danduffy7974 6 ай бұрын
I was with the 86th SPS, USAFE at Ramstein
@oliverpeerman5859
@oliverpeerman5859 Жыл бұрын
I spent 18 months at Andersen in the third mms, from Nov. 165 to May 1967 it was really something to see the 52 take off clear the runway and drop down over the beach then come rising out of the sea trailing smoke like a big bird of prey. then from May 1968 to May 1969 at Ultapo Thailand, was amazing to be at the end of the runway when they took off.
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 Жыл бұрын
Ever posted at Mather AFB?
@TrollingHistory
@TrollingHistory Жыл бұрын
You Big Ol persecuting oppressor you. If you arent fighting for the safty of your land then you are Team RED, not them they had no way to attack USA. But you war crimed them anyway. Agent orange and napalm over their villages which just sounds better than over their women and children doesnt it.
@TrollingHistory
@TrollingHistory Жыл бұрын
Hey you vietnams come out and fight fair. Or else. We'll attack your women.
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 Жыл бұрын
Not as important a story as yours. Just impressions, I was stationed at McConnell in Kansas in 1981. From time to time a B-52 took off from the airfield - back then this base was primarily to support the active Titan II silos, KC-135 air refueling, and Air National Guard F-4's. My office was adjacent to the airfield, I had the night shift, and when a B-52 was running up her engines for take off it was unforgettable. Every wall shook, the air seemed to consist of the roar, and you felt it in your bones.
@jamesjoseph5707
@jamesjoseph5707 Жыл бұрын
And in Desert Storm they started with their own version of Linebacker 2 all the way up to the Surrender. Now that's how it's done. Not for 11 days but until they Surrendered.
@Waco_Corp
@Waco_Corp Жыл бұрын
I saw the B-52s taking off from Andersen AFB during this mission as a young boy. They used MITO (Minimum Interval Take Off), which seemed like every 10 or 15 seconds. It was awesome.
@AhmedAdly11
@AhmedAdly11 Жыл бұрын
Yeah... it was awesome. Like being in the roman colosseum ...
@sheltr9735
@sheltr9735 Жыл бұрын
@@AhmedAdly11 Well, the sheer power would have been awe-inspiring, in addition to being heart-breaking...
@gryph01
@gryph01 Жыл бұрын
I saw a B-52 do a fly by at the London International Air Show in the 80's. It was amazing to see it and was gobsmacked at how loud they are.
@Waco_Corp
@Waco_Corp Жыл бұрын
@@sheltr9735 No heart-break in serving overwhelming power to our communist enemies.
@Waco_Corp
@Waco_Corp Жыл бұрын
@@gryph01 We were parked right at the end of the runway. The sensation of the roar of the engines rumbling in the chest sticks in my memory.
@southwestxnorthwest
@southwestxnorthwest Жыл бұрын
Whoever came up with the name Operation _Linebacker_ should have received an award or ribbon just for suggesting such a badass name
@SuperLordHawHaw
@SuperLordHawHaw 4 ай бұрын
It was originally "Operation Punt Return"
@jakemocci3953
@jakemocci3953 3 ай бұрын
Probably the guy at 6:02
@AttitudeAsia
@AttitudeAsia Ай бұрын
They were going to call it 'Operation Gold Standard', but the Central Bank thought it would make the real reason for the war too obvious.
@newt21
@newt21 Жыл бұрын
As a former Veteran War veteran who was a pilot I enjoy seeing videos about the Vietnam War especially when you show the sorties we flew. Thank you. 🇺🇸
@user-vv5px5wl4w
@user-vv5px5wl4w Жыл бұрын
Что то я забыл, а чем там все закончилось, засранец? Не было в истории США такого позора, как бегство из Вьетнама.
@sanimgurung87
@sanimgurung87 Жыл бұрын
you should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. the death and destruction is still felt in the country now.
@newt21
@newt21 Жыл бұрын
@@sanimgurung87 yeah no worries, I sleep great at night except for not killing more ❤️👊✌️
@Michael-cf9cj
@Michael-cf9cj Жыл бұрын
Okay, for all of you pointing out the B-52 wasn't involved in WWII (7:35 in the video), you're right. It wasn't. However, the presentation almost certainly meant that the B-52 was proving that the heavy bomber as a general type of aircraft could still be as effective over the battlefield as it was in WWII, not that the B-52 itself was involved in WWII. Seriously, I would hope a historical channel like Dark Skies wouldn't make such an obvious mistake. My guess is that they simply didn't realize how misleading that line of dialogue could sound.
@manofcultura
@manofcultura Жыл бұрын
Yeah the line should’ve been “the *strategic* bomber is still as iconic as it was during the later half of WW2” The word strategic would’ve cleared up ambiguousness.
@bad74maverick1
@bad74maverick1 Жыл бұрын
@@manofcultura I was ready to pounce on that narration!!!! I heard it and said "Wait what? What the hell did he just say??"...
@theflow5269
@theflow5269 Жыл бұрын
They've made bigger mistakes in other vids
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou Жыл бұрын
They get a lot of stuff wrong often. Still like the channel overall though. And I understand and agree with your assessment.
@madtrucker0983
@madtrucker0983 Жыл бұрын
The problem with this channel is they do this all the time. They make huge blunders. I promise you you can find something significant in every single one of their videos.
@fredeb67
@fredeb67 Жыл бұрын
I remember during Operation Desert Storm, seeing, feeling, hearing bombers drop massive amount of bombs at night over the horizon. I was thinking how safe that made me feel but I imagined what it must have been like for those on the receiving end. By the sheer length and quantity of the drops, I assumed it was the work of the BUFF.
@xnyxiee1784
@xnyxiee1784 Жыл бұрын
If they fuck up enough to have a B-52 level them, then fuck em.
@user-vd1uz3dj8l
@user-vd1uz3dj8l 6 ай бұрын
I wonder just how many bombs it took to kill one person.
@fredeb67
@fredeb67 4 ай бұрын
@@Uomo_Universale Yes. Bombs kill during war. War is kill, or be killed.
@LongTran-em6hc
@LongTran-em6hc Жыл бұрын
It's a very strange feeling recognizing my living place in a youtube thumbnail. The bends of the Red river feel so...close
@richardbittikofer988
@richardbittikofer988 Жыл бұрын
I was at Danang AB on my 2nd tour in 'Nam when Linebacker II took place.
@unclecreepy8343
@unclecreepy8343 4 ай бұрын
God Bless you and your family.
@richardclary6267
@richardclary6267 3 ай бұрын
What was it like
@gustavo320
@gustavo320 2 ай бұрын
I lived in Danang. Dated a colonel from the vietnamese army. She was great. Best definition of "make love not war"
@Agent_3141
@Agent_3141 Жыл бұрын
If it isn't the beautiful B-52 Stratofortress. The plane that started in the 1950s and might still fly until the 2050s. The grandson of the B-17 Flying Fortress and the son of the B-29 Superfortress. What a beautiful aircraft
@finscreenname
@finscreenname Жыл бұрын
And yet just 20 years earlier we were flying around in open cockpit planes made of wood, canvas and wires.
@imakro69
@imakro69 Жыл бұрын
@@finscreenname shit its insane, imagine if something like this is just around the corner, like liion batteries were, and now we all ride escooters, imagine over the next 10 years they create smart chemistry for batteries and we would be able to fly drones
@PhilosophersLegacy83
@PhilosophersLegacy83 Жыл бұрын
Not if you or your town/city was it target.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 Жыл бұрын
A plane that could have three different generations of one family flying it. Imagine flying a combat mission in your Grampa's old plane! 😎
@PhilosophersLegacy83
@PhilosophersLegacy83 Жыл бұрын
It would be the son of the B 47 Stratojet actually.
@WorldTravelA320
@WorldTravelA320 Жыл бұрын
The G model did NOT carry fewer jammers. They and the H models were outfitted to penetrate Soviet defenses and drop their bombs. (Remember this) When the F models were starting to return stateside for retirement, SAC pulled several G models from nuclear alert and had them join the fray, with the H models and remaining G's remaining stateside on nuclear alert. As stated before, the G was outfitted to penetrate Soviet air defenses, and was equipped with jammers meant to counteract top of the line Soviet equipment. The Fansong radar used by the SA-2 batteries was considered an antique and thus G models, had no effective means to counteract it. Whereas the older D models did.
@eddiehaskell1957
@eddiehaskell1957 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that information .
@Ahmed-vw3iw
@Ahmed-vw3iw Жыл бұрын
Iraqi POWs stated that they feared B52s far more than F16s,F18s as the latter would target a single tank or bunker...whereas when B52 approaches it lays waste to anything around 300 meters in the area which made an Iraqi soldier at far more risk than any other plane. Against other planes they could hide deep into the Fox Hole and likely survive but against a B52 the chances to live were low due to sheer number of bombs
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a chilling entry to the book "Fulcrum" written by the Soviet Russian pilot defector Alexander Zuyev. In the mid 1980's his unit of Mig 29's did an exercise with mock nuclear bombs. Zuyev describes the procedure for arming them during this exercise, and states the Soviet Union had no good procedure for this but copied the American one. The Soviets interrogated American pilots shot down over Vietnam, and "persuaded" them to tell the Soviet monsters the procedure then merely copied it. The American pilots were then "liquidated" so they could tell no one.
@earlsmall9808
@earlsmall9808 Жыл бұрын
@@eddiehaskell1957 I think we know each other. Earl Small
@eddiehaskell1957
@eddiehaskell1957 Жыл бұрын
@@earlsmall9808 I'm in Tennessee. Originally Texas. Your name doesn't ring a bell or two. But that's not unusual lately.
@drm315
@drm315 Жыл бұрын
Henry Kissinger was Secretary of State, not Secretary of Defense. Great video! Thanks.
@lib556
@lib556 Жыл бұрын
Actually he was the NSA until 73, then SECSTATE.
@mochiebellina8190
@mochiebellina8190 Жыл бұрын
and a consummate war criminal.
@Gene_Greenlees
@Gene_Greenlees Жыл бұрын
Kissinger: National Security Adviser Dec 1972->Then Sec of State (You can overdub through YT) Great 👍🏻 B-52 video. Spent 1987-1991 G Models 62/596 BMS Barksdale
@cstgraphpads2091
@cstgraphpads2091 Жыл бұрын
@@mochiebellina8190 How so? For starters, "war crimes" basically don't exist. Second, how can he be a "war criminal" when all targets are valid targets in war.
@jb-vb8un
@jb-vb8un Жыл бұрын
@mochiNOFACTS - ya love him, ya need him and ya still want to be him
@rufusmccloonahan4083
@rufusmccloonahan4083 Жыл бұрын
My brother piloted on five nites of Linebacker ll out of U-Tapao. He is 80 now, and my hero. He flew O-2's nite time with the Rustics as well. If you are a fan of our aviator's, I recommend reading "Call Sign, Rustic". They did their best, with no accolades, to prevent what eventually failed with Pol Pot's killing fields.
@havu-oj4qh
@havu-oj4qh Жыл бұрын
US govt gave Khmer Rouge money to kill
@nonyabeeznuss304
@nonyabeeznuss304 Жыл бұрын
I live about 300 miles from a B52 base, and one day one of them flew along our valley very low and slow. It shook our whole house, it sounded like a natural disaster.
@jamescoleakaericunderwood2503
@jamescoleakaericunderwood2503 Жыл бұрын
That's cool... 1972 driving through the Mojave desert 3 Tomcats straffed our camper bout 50 feet over us the camper learched forward then side to side and all 3 Tomcats hit afterburners and headed to the ceiling.... I was 9 years old..Dad was a WWII COMBAT ENGINEER ISLAND HOPPER and we never had jets in WWII... Dad belted out..." WE GOT JETS NOW MOTHERFUCKERS! give me another beer Ivan! Middle of the Mojave...
@Matt_Comer
@Matt_Comer Жыл бұрын
Lucky
@tylernorby4939
@tylernorby4939 Жыл бұрын
I lived near the Boeing plant in Everett, the dreamlifter is actually even more massive than the stratofortress. It would fly over a gas station near Paine Field, shaking the whole structure covering the pumps.
@jamescoleakaericunderwood2503
@jamescoleakaericunderwood2503 Жыл бұрын
@@tylernorby4939 Cool! Awesome 💯
@chuckstockford2338
@chuckstockford2338 Жыл бұрын
I used to go to a lake close to Oscoda Michigan Air Force base. It was either every hour or every other hour they fired up engines on all or just a few of the B 52’s. The roar was tremendous. We would go under the water and you could still hear them.
@imathreat209
@imathreat209 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching an interview of a North Vietnamese soilder saying if they seen a B-52 fly over, they wouldn't even run, that you was either dead or not
@AhmedAdly11
@AhmedAdly11 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that must have been really entertaining for you.
@dartskihutch4033
@dartskihutch4033 Жыл бұрын
@@AhmedAdly11 lol.. ??
@AhmedAdly11
@AhmedAdly11 Жыл бұрын
@@dartskihutch4033 I have been watching youtube comments on war and it comes down to the fact that people in comfortable countries are greatly entertained by death and destruction. In fact, it is emotionally equatable to the ancient Roman colosseum.
@m4rvinmartian
@m4rvinmartian Жыл бұрын
@@AhmedAdly11 in comfortable countries? You mean the ones where people have high IQs? What exactly prohibits whatever god forsaken hell hole you're about to talk about from becoming civil?
@AhmedAdly11
@AhmedAdly11 Жыл бұрын
@@m4rvinmartian The subject is how people in comfortable countries are entertained by the deaths of those n less fortunate countries. If you want to talk about why others are less fortunate, then that is a whole different conversation. But unfortunately I am not available for that. But I would love to hear why you think it is ok to enjoy watching less fortunate people kill each other (just because you are fortunate)
@majorhicksusmc
@majorhicksusmc Жыл бұрын
I served with Delta Co 1st Bn 3rd Marines in Vietnam from December ‘66 to the end of December ‘67. We spent time up and around the DMZ on different operations. The first time I saw B-52s conducting a bombing run was in early July ‘67 on Operation Buffalo. I was in our gun teams fighting hole when the ground began to shake like a small earthquake. I looked up and could barely make out the sun reflecting on their bare metal skin of three B-52s. When I looked north (from our position the ground sloped down and away from our position) I saw a wall of explosions from the bombs they were dropping, and eventually a rumbling sound from the explosions. It was an impressive sight to see. I almost felt sorry for the NVA, but had no sympathy for them after what I saw on Buffalo.
@freedomisnotnegotiable
@freedomisnotnegotiable Жыл бұрын
Well, you were the one who invaded another country you had no business in… but yeah I know you just followed the orders, as a German I heard that before…
@vodkanghost9042
@vodkanghost9042 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomisnotnegotiable shut up
@TruckerIceBox
@TruckerIceBox Жыл бұрын
@@freedomisnotnegotiable your a 🍆
@revejmal
@revejmal Жыл бұрын
@@freedomisnotnegotiable found the millennial
@johngardner313
@johngardner313 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service. Welcome home soldier.
@vanthai5738
@vanthai5738 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to ALL Vietnam veterans for their service.
@MrMWN-rw4bv
@MrMWN-rw4bv 10 ай бұрын
Yeah! Thanks for going to Third World countries trying to recolonize them by murdering peasants and pillaging theirs rice supply..... 💀👍
@StephenDelRosario777
@StephenDelRosario777 8 ай бұрын
Bruh ☠☠☠
@danduffy7974
@danduffy7974 6 ай бұрын
You are very welcome.
@JoeBaldwin-jx8iy
@JoeBaldwin-jx8iy 4 ай бұрын
I would like to say thank you to all veterans. You all are my hero's!!!
@Bigdaddyslasher
@Bigdaddyslasher Жыл бұрын
It is estimated that over 7 1/2 million tons of bombs were dropped on Indochina, the vast majority on North Vietnam. Compared to less that 2 1/4 million tons in all of WW2, and the 1.5 million tons dropped on Germany and it’s held territories in Europe. The cost of these ordinances were of more value than the whole collective worth of North Vietnam. Operation Rolling Thunder began in 1965, with the idea of bombing North Vietnam into submission, with the work horse of these bombing missions being the B 52, capable of carrying 70,000 pounds of explosives. This compared to the B 17 with a long range bombing mission over Germany carrying 4,000 pounds of explosives.
@ahseaton8353
@ahseaton8353 Жыл бұрын
The majority of the bombs were actually dropped on South Vietnam. Although airstrikes were prohibited on North Vietnam between Linebacker I in 1965 and II in 1972, they continued against the Viet Cong and NVA in South Vietnam (and Laos and Cambodia, but they don't count 😐)
@badguy5554
@badguy5554 Жыл бұрын
Bottom line: The ONLY bombing that was done with any affect was the Christmas bombing of 1972. Like in ALL wars, political leaders are quick to send other people's kids off to fight and die....FAR away from THEM! They change their opinions, dramatically, when THEIR CITY and THEIR KIDS and THEIR HOUSES are being bombed. If we had leveled Hanoi in 1965 instead of waiting until 1972 there would not have been a "Vietnam War".
@GoldsmithsStats
@GoldsmithsStats Жыл бұрын
What a tragic exercise in futility. What did all that money and bloodshed achieve? The impoverishment of Indochina. This is Kissinger's legacy. How does he sleep at night.
@Bigdaddyslasher
@Bigdaddyslasher Жыл бұрын
@Arthur Moe he is an evil man
@opposed2logic
@opposed2logic Жыл бұрын
the easiest way to tell usa is a state terrorist actor, just like russia, is by just looking at their behavior in laos. they never declared war against laos yet they dropped more bombs on laos than all of the bombs dropped during ww2 combined. 100% of the targets in laos bombed by usa were civilian targets. it was exclusively aimed at the civilian population, largely wiping out one entire ethnic group which is why its often considered a genocide carried out by usa. its goal was to take out laotian ability to feed people so food from laos would not enter vietnam. usa is a country of utter evil and everyone supporting them and their politics is no better than those who support putin. evil people, doomed to eternal damnation in the afterlife. god will sort them all out, no heaven is to await for those who support evil.
@2A4FIN
@2A4FIN Жыл бұрын
The casualties occuring in the post-target turn were due to ECM emitter placement in the plane plane, providing a strong jamming to sides and below. When the aircraft rolls into turn, the jamming effect was considerably lesser, and enabled the radar operators to cue in for the lock.
@HumanScourgeYT
@HumanScourgeYT Жыл бұрын
Your quality, content, and narrations has vastly and greatly improved over the last year! I’m glad you slowed the narration. The pace feels just right now.
@ralphriffle1126
@ralphriffle1126 Жыл бұрын
A five hundred pouder sent me flying through the air. The ground shook like jello. The power and force is unbelievable. "We Faught All The Way " " The Brave And The Bold " " The 198th Infantry " " Viet Nam "
@SmegHedd117
@SmegHedd117 Жыл бұрын
"Fought".......
@havu-oj4qh
@havu-oj4qh Жыл бұрын
failure was also pathetic when 34 B52s were shot down, hundreds of pilots were captured,, killed “In fact, the toll on the US forces had been such that it had forced Nixon to beg Hanoi to resume the peace talks, and to unilaterally and unconditionally end the bombing" wrote US historian Pierer Asselin
@ralphriffle1126
@ralphriffle1126 Жыл бұрын
@@havu-oj4qh ha ha ha. You want to rewrite history your way.
@havu-oj4qh
@havu-oj4qh Жыл бұрын
@@ralphriffle1126 Long beak did not bring you glory. Your panic escape from Vietnam with your tail between your legs say it all .
@flyer5769
@flyer5769 Жыл бұрын
Hi, my father got to Vietnam in 1967. He flew for Air America. I got there in January 1968. I was 10 years old. Just in time for the Tet Offensive. Shortly after that I remember being able to feel the ground very lightly vibrate. Looking up you can see the curtain start to jiggle a little. This usually happened in the evenings. At first I didn't know what it was. My father told me it was the B-52's bombing. The fact that they were so far away you couldn't hear it, but you could still feel it. It was just mind-boggling.
@captainsalty9022
@captainsalty9022 11 ай бұрын
My brother,a army field radio operator assigned to LRRP’s, had the unfortunate experience of calling in a sighting of a battalion size force of NVA on an adjacent ridge line, less than a half mile away across a valley, moving south. Minutes later, he and the team were told to get down and take cover as an Arc Light mission had been diverted to the reported sighting. The LRRP team were bounced around and debris fell on them. After it was over, they were ordered to go over and investigate for a casualty report. This was one of several incidents in my brothers time in Vietnam that haunted him for the rest of his life.
@Off-The-X
@Off-The-X 4 ай бұрын
we should talk. My uncle was there with your brother. The screams of the maimed NVA, haunted him everyday. They had to do BDA afterwards, "a pool of human sludge wherever you walked, The jungle was sand and blood, No bodies."
@bensonyazzie1168
@bensonyazzie1168 8 күн бұрын
... 3rdRECON...snoop and poop 💩...😅
@RJasonKlein
@RJasonKlein Жыл бұрын
Excellent video that documents an interesting time in the B-52’s history. My father was in SAC as an AWO on a B-52 out of Carswell Air Force Base in Fort Worth, TX, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, so these raids took place long after he had transitioned to pilot in command of a C-130A model in the 1370th Photo Mapping Wing out of Forbes Air Force Base in Topeka, KS, where I was born in 1967. You misspoke when describing the B-52 as iconic in the latter stages of WWII, as it first went into service in 1954.
@thespectator2976
@thespectator2976 Жыл бұрын
Your videos has truly evolved. Keep up the awesome work m8 :)
@Nebulax123
@Nebulax123 Жыл бұрын
I was in the Navy on the USS Saratoga CVA 60 and part of Linebacker 2, we ran Alpha strikes non stop and anything that would fly and could carry bombs went around the clock.
@iBusinessLogic
@iBusinessLogic Жыл бұрын
Good ole' Sara! (Capt. Ron)
@sheltr9735
@sheltr9735 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service, soldier
@hans-joachimmarsielle4215
@hans-joachimmarsielle4215 Жыл бұрын
@@sheltr9735 Sailor*
@sheltr9735
@sheltr9735 Жыл бұрын
@@hans-joachimmarsielle4215 Yes, as an SOP, I make it a point to explicitly thank those who've served But, my SOP failed to account for the various branches of armed forces Going forward, I'll be more sensitive to that Thx for the correction!
@yardsale781
@yardsale781 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service. In your opinion, why did the United States wait so long to use this strategy of Linebacker II?
@777cmm777
@777cmm777 Жыл бұрын
Henry Kissinger was Secretary of State, not Secretary of Defense.
@popefang
@popefang Жыл бұрын
many many errors of fact in this channel
@madtrucker0983
@madtrucker0983 Жыл бұрын
@@popefang Yep, it also said B-52's we're used at the tail end of WW2. 🙄
@NickTaylorRickPowers
@NickTaylorRickPowers Жыл бұрын
War criminal Henry Kissinger
@hemp64731
@hemp64731 Жыл бұрын
He said @1:35 that secretary of defense then @2:13 said Kissinger
@777cmm777
@777cmm777 Жыл бұрын
@@hemp64731 Robert McNamara was the Secretary of Defense during the Kennedy and Johnson administrations (1:35). Henry Kissinger was the Secretary of State during the Nixon and Ford administrations
@richardlong3745
@richardlong3745 Жыл бұрын
I was at Andersen AFB when Linebacker 2 took place and there were mistakes made but the biggest was stopping the bombing after 14 days because another 14 days we would have broken the back of the N. Vietnamese will to fight for years to come as opposed to what happened just a mere 3 years later.
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 Жыл бұрын
Old 1960's saying: FAR! (Fuc*en-A-Radio!) You Are So Right!! AND, Our Government keeps fighting wars that we don't intend to win, either... I'm a Nam Vet USAF TAC. Best Regards to You
@paladin0654
@paladin0654 Жыл бұрын
In '71my battery was involved in supporting an operation at Tay Ninh West that covered the 11th ACR pulling off the Parrot's Beak. The night before we made the combat assault the entire battery camped out near the air strip. At about 2 AM the horizon lit up, the ground shook and we were literally bounced off the ground as an Arc Light went off in support of the operation. Never experienced anything like it and don't ever want to again.
@roybeanjr9352
@roybeanjr9352 Жыл бұрын
Arc Lights were often in response to ASA intel.
@Txpo50
@Txpo50 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service. Vietnam vets are some of the most underrated veterans we have, especially because most didn’t want to be there and had no real choice
@joshs199
@joshs199 Жыл бұрын
That sounds fascinating. But I don't understand most of the terms that were used.
@PaulSyp
@PaulSyp Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service sir.
@zakpearce7826
@zakpearce7826 Жыл бұрын
@@Txpo50 They're "underrated" because the war was stupid and nobody cares about you if you waste your life on stupid causes.
@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe the B-17 was still being used just 7 short years before the BUFFs.
@willdenoble1898
@willdenoble1898 Жыл бұрын
it was an amazing airframe. although, it should be noted that the engines and electronic were massively upgraded compared to its WWII models
@bgreen2266
@bgreen2266 Жыл бұрын
WWII models? The B-52 took its maiden flight in April 1952.
@matthiasfeid5929
@matthiasfeid5929 Жыл бұрын
@@bgreen2266 he's talking about upgrades to the B-17
@sethmaki1333
@sethmaki1333 Жыл бұрын
And it'll still be flying a century after the 17 was retired.
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb Жыл бұрын
I understand you mean the use of B-17 in WWII but it did have some post war service too so it was actually still being used (just not in massive bombing campaigns) well after the introduction of the B-52.
@Old_B52H_Gunner
@Old_B52H_Gunner Жыл бұрын
I served with several gunners that flew Linebacker and Linebacker 2.
@BPD1586
@BPD1586 Жыл бұрын
That was my dream AFSC; unfortunately, it was phased out the year before I enlisted.
@redroyce4590
@redroyce4590 Жыл бұрын
I love hearing and seeing such videos like this!
@CK-mt7om
@CK-mt7om 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video, just subscribed... More please 😉
@eriknewman5288
@eriknewman5288 Жыл бұрын
The problem with Vietnam is the same problem we had with Korea. It was fought by men directed by part-time leaders who were servants to public opinion polls. If you're unwilling to do everything possible to win a war, then don't engage in war.
@badguy5554
@badguy5554 Жыл бұрын
The US military with the help of the B-52..WON the Vietnam War in early 1973. The Democrat Congress, in 1975, refused to fund the bombing of the North Vietnamese invasion of the South, as B-52's had done in 1972, and thus "aided and abetted" our enemy to kill and enslave the people of the South. The Vietnam War was lost through Democrat politics NOT from any deficiency in the American military.
@eriknewman5288
@eriknewman5288 Жыл бұрын
@BADGUY that's what I said. Politicians last the wars. I'm an opponent of the military being lead by civilian politicians from Washington.
@badguy5554
@badguy5554 Жыл бұрын
@@eriknewman5288 I wasn't refuting what you said. I was agreeing with you and was just adding my own comment.
@eriknewman5288
@eriknewman5288 Жыл бұрын
@@badguy5554 no worries. I see that now. I was tired and not comprehending
@bencatechi4293
@bencatechi4293 Жыл бұрын
The problem was invading in the first place and brutally murdering the people.
@flamebroiledsquirrel
@flamebroiledsquirrel Жыл бұрын
The only flaw in "bombing them back into the Stone Age" was, and is, that it only works on static infrastructure. If your enemy is accustomed to relatively primitive methodology (one practical marker might be seeing digital communication as a novelty rather than a necessity), destroying their infrastructure will still have a big impact in terms of human and material loss, but won't demoralize them to the same degree that a more modern society would be. It appears to be a recurring error in strategic decision making; to believe your enemy will react to an injury you're considering inflicting upon him as you would react upon receiving that injury yourself. It's a very conditional truth, and applying it as though it were a universal truth leads to a morass which no superpower has yet extricated themselves from with any dignity.
@MrTrees77
@MrTrees77 Жыл бұрын
Well that and and it was their homeland. We were the invaders. If you bombed the hell out of an invading army in the same way that we use the b-52s...I'm pretty sure most those men would start to question why they are even fighting.
@kurtamesbury6679
@kurtamesbury6679 Жыл бұрын
Bombing them into the Stone Age is a viable strategy even in under-developed societies. Sticks and rocks make poor weapons against a modern mechanized military. Had America interdicted the supply lines early on (by mining Haiphong harbor) made copious use of Agent Orange not to clear jungle, but to kill off rice fields and bombed the infrastructure into oblivion, the level of "Stone Age" delivered would have reduced the population to a primary focus of simply not starving to death. Starving armies make weak opponents. The Vietnam war lasted as long as it did because the traitors of the political class continued to feed military personnel into a meat-grinder while handcuffed and not permitted to do their jobs. Turned loose for a couple weeks during Operation Linebacker II, they promptly brought N. Vietnam to its knees. When they were done, the Vietnamese were not simply acceding to 'peace talk" demands - they were desperately looking for any way to end the onslaught without total capitulation. In fact, memoirs of NVA General Vo Nguyen Giap acknowledged the North's panic and desperation to stop the bombing. Another week of Linebacker II would have brought unconditional surrender of N. Vietnam - but politicians snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
@donodono2287
@donodono2287 Жыл бұрын
@@MrTrees77 Their mum's and dads, sons and daughters, and maybe their brothers and sisters certainly would.
@donrodgers283
@donrodgers283 Жыл бұрын
Having been there and witnessed the Results , they where beaten, that was the turning point that could have been a win. Once again the Democrats started it, FUBARed it then start all that same stuff you seen today crying it’s a tragedy what’s going on. These Democrats always start SHT and when them get a bloody nose they away crying it’s everyone’s else’s fault. So stop it.
@cstgraphpads2091
@cstgraphpads2091 Жыл бұрын
@@MrTrees77 Except they were the invaders. We didn't "invade" South Vietnam, we were asked to help defend it by the legitimate government of South Vietnam.
@supadupachupacabra69
@supadupachupacabra69 4 ай бұрын
My dad was on one of those crews, I love the b-52. When we were kids my father would take my brothers and I out to the flight line to check out the planes. Gotta love a 100 yard wing span. That is a football field. Awesome.
@Safari3601
@Safari3601 Жыл бұрын
I witnessed a B52 when on the USS Sample DE 1048 while off the the coster of Vietnam, may have been one of these runs. To this day I remember seeing the strike and the loft bombing following, I still tell people it was one of the most amazing thing I have ever seen.
@theduck1972
@theduck1972 Жыл бұрын
The B-52D also had the "Big Bay" Mod. which was wiring and shackle changes, not a change to the Bomb Bay dimensions. It could carry 108 500lbs bombs. Took two hours to get to cruise altitude and had to hit a tanker around 25,000 ft, since a B-52 could fly much heavier than takeoff and landing weight limits. I believe the G model could handle a load of 58 500 pounders.
@lemmingsfly
@lemmingsfly Жыл бұрын
Big belly is the more common term but yea they could carry some weight. The only US aircraft that can carry more is the b-1. But it doesn’t have a nuclear mission anymore.
@BLD426
@BLD426 Жыл бұрын
Love me some Dark Skies...
@Ionizap
@Ionizap 10 ай бұрын
I saw a B-52 do a low pass over CFB Chatham in Canada coming from the Tracadie Range many long years ago. It was quite a sight.
@robertojofre15
@robertojofre15 Жыл бұрын
The intro was soo epic!!
@KlipsenTube
@KlipsenTube Жыл бұрын
There's rarely any mention of the fact that it was US Navy mine sweeping helicopters that cleared the shipping lane into Haiphong harbour of the mines dropped there during Linebacker II. This was part of the negotiations.
@badguy5554
@badguy5554 Жыл бұрын
Believe the total losses were more like 31. The 15 mentioned were shot down over Hanoi...but another number were abandoned, because of damage, over Laos. One crashed on landing at the airfield in Thailand.
@mpireoutdoors5274
@mpireoutdoors5274 Жыл бұрын
Been saving this one for after a few drinks and I guess that will be now.
@jason60chev
@jason60chev 2 ай бұрын
I was an Aircraft Hydraulic Systems Tech on B52G, at Castle AFB, Ca 1989-1993. Great aircraft. Can't imagine how hard and long the ground crews had to work, to keep them flying.
@mred8002
@mred8002 Жыл бұрын
We had a hunting cabin in a 15 acre clearing in the midst of Huron National Forest. We would feel the building shake , then hear the sound as the B52s would appear over the edge of the woods and rattle the windows as they went over at what seemed like close enough to touch.. huge machines.
@davidsaling1298
@davidsaling1298 Жыл бұрын
Remember that!!! My father was stationed at WAFB Michigan.
@mred8002
@mred8002 Жыл бұрын
@@davidsaling1298 That’s where they were out of. We’d also find tangles of chaff scattered around the 200 acre piece. Cabin was north of Loon lake.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn Жыл бұрын
7:39, I’m pretty sure the B-52 wasn’t iconic during WW2 since it didn’t come until much later. Perhaps your script of “the bomber” was referring to all bombers in general vs the B-52?
@ezrabrooks12
@ezrabrooks12 Жыл бұрын
Good Video/Info.
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 10 ай бұрын
That old film of a B52 in flames from wingtip to wingtip in a flat spin is really wonderfull.
@bindig1
@bindig1 4 ай бұрын
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@robertsansone1680
@robertsansone1680 Жыл бұрын
Barry Goldwater wanted to do all that in 1964. It would had saved the lives of thousands of Americans who ended up dying needlessly. My parents voted for Goldwater I'm proud to say.
@LuisGarcia-rq2qo
@LuisGarcia-rq2qo Жыл бұрын
Those guys where tough they never gave up they protected their land
@chloeew4627
@chloeew4627 Жыл бұрын
True , unfortunately the US haven’t learnt yet . Keep out of people’s backyards unless they are in yours. Vietnam has gone on to be a fairly happy and peaceful land
@steigerpower
@steigerpower 7 ай бұрын
How true, and that war sure had made some corporations very wealthy@@chloeew4627
@magoochito
@magoochito 2 ай бұрын
I think they have learned to a certain extent. The domino theory has proven to be false and ideologies are no longer casus belli for war.
@donaldolin7219
@donaldolin7219 4 ай бұрын
Years later, 1977, I had the privilege of going up to the Andersen control tower as a buddy was an ATC. Excellent view as it was a very tall control tower. The base was pretty quiet back then.
@luisvelez5695
@luisvelez5695 Жыл бұрын
Some of our aircrews from Kincheloe AFB were on these missions in dec 1972
@thebobloblawshow8832
@thebobloblawshow8832 Жыл бұрын
You mean as iconic as it was in the later phase of the Korean War.
@plantfeeder6677
@plantfeeder6677 Жыл бұрын
B-52 wasn't used in Korea. It entered service in 1954. He was referring to Strategic Bombing still being effective as it was at the end of WWII
@AgniWatchLugun
@AgniWatchLugun Жыл бұрын
You appeared to imply that the B-52 was operational during the latter phase of WWII at timestamp 7:37, but the B-52 didn't have it's first flight until 1952, almost 7 years after the end of WWII, did you get the B-52 confused with another aircraft?
@bernardvonderheide1268
@bernardvonderheide1268 Жыл бұрын
Rewatch I believe that it was the amount of bombers they were using not the bombers themselves
@AgniWatchLugun
@AgniWatchLugun Жыл бұрын
@@bernardvonderheide1268 I did rewatch, more than once, he's specifically referring to the bomber being used as "being as iconic as it was in the latter stages of WWII", hence it is a specific reference to B-52 bombers and not the number which may have been committed to the operation
@joeqmix
@joeqmix Жыл бұрын
I got the same impression - the exact words are: "operation the B-52 Crews proved that *the 7:34 bomber* was still as iconic as *it* was 7:36 during the latter phase of World War II..." I see now that it probably means *The Bomber* as a platform, not That Bomber - the B-52 specifically. Bombers in general.
@AgniWatchLugun
@AgniWatchLugun Жыл бұрын
@@joeqmix Your interpretation might have been his intention, but there is a fundamental flaw with that argument, tactical and strategic bombing was used throughout WWII, one could hardly call Allied day and nighttime bombing of German occupied Europe as only occuring towards the end of WWII, and let's not forget the German bombing operations during the Battle of Britain, or Japanese bombing of Chinese cities prior to Pearl Harbor, additionally UN forces conducted extensive bombing campaigns against North Korea during the Korean War from 1950 to 1953, so large scale use of bombers did not end with WWII, ultimately I still think he made a mistake in this video, admittedly some WWII bombers were used in Vietnam, since B-26 bombers operated under both the French and Americans in Vietnam, but the last B-26's were take out of service before 1970
@psychocuda
@psychocuda Жыл бұрын
@@joeqmix Right, I think he meant "the bomber" as a concept, not as the specific type, so strategic bombing in general.
@AdrianHepburn-vz9yr
@AdrianHepburn-vz9yr 11 ай бұрын
This channel honours research in the breach.
@1murder99
@1murder99 Жыл бұрын
My first day in the field with A company 1/46 Infantry was spent doing B52 bomb damage assessement in Loas. This was in October 1968.
@henryposadas3309
@henryposadas3309 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what would have happened if the Airforce had not been held back from the very start of the war?
@cplcabs
@cplcabs Жыл бұрын
The US airforce dropped 7 1/2 million bombs on Vietnam...in WW2 2 1/4 million bombs were dropped in total by the Allies. Just how were the airforce held back in your opinion?
@majerstud
@majerstud Жыл бұрын
@@cplcabs How many of those millions of toms were dropped on empty jungle?
@GM-xk1nw
@GM-xk1nw Жыл бұрын
more civilians dead, us still lose.
@LarryDickman1
@LarryDickman1 Жыл бұрын
@@cplcabs Go read some history on all the fucking "rules of engagement" that had to be followed. If we fought the war (not a fucking police action) like we did WWII, it would have been over in a couple of years.
@cplcabs
@cplcabs Жыл бұрын
@Lawrence Dickman I know history. It was all out warfare don't say politicians held the military back. The us military killed about 800000 NVA and you think the US militaries hands were tied because of ROEs?
@davidheilman1613
@davidheilman1613 Жыл бұрын
I was alive, but too young to go to Vietnam. But, even as a kid of 14, I wondered why America failed to conduct their Armed Forces as if America wanted to win. And from Korea forward, America's leaders, both political and Military fail to go into War with the focused intention of winning, no matter how brutal. Instead, we play some kind of a Game, where American forces play with our enemies. And we even restrict our Military from using their full affectedness! Limiting what we attack, and with how much force. We have Rules we follow that make no sense what so ever, unless the intent is to make a pretence of winning. Then, like we did in Afghanistan, suddenly we pull out our forces, leaving our Military gear, and way too many American's behind. Our leaders are playing a much different Game than what the Public are told.
@Rayden440
@Rayden440 Жыл бұрын
The answer is always money. The longer the war, the more profit for the companies that backs the politicians. If America wanted to win, they could have wiped Vietnam and Afghanistan off the map within a month.
@johngaither9263
@johngaither9263 Жыл бұрын
Thank Harry Truman for setting the precedent of allowing the American Military to participate in a war it was not allowed to win. Funny how democrat Presidents have a habit of doing that.
@fooman2108
@fooman2108 Жыл бұрын
To this day! Cruise on the International Space Station without Optics can pick up the impact zones for the linebacker to strike! That is almost 50 years later in Triple Canopy jungle on you can still pick out the bomb craters
@livingexample5322
@livingexample5322 Жыл бұрын
I was a B-52 automatic flight control tech at U Tapao during Linebacker ll. Unfortunately it meant witnessing a B-52 struggle trying stay in the air and ultimately crashed past the end of the runway. Completely surreal.
@sexygirlove20
@sexygirlove20 Жыл бұрын
have you been back there since U Tapao was made into an international airport ...
@timothymccarthy4704
@timothymccarthy4704 Жыл бұрын
Had we continued Linebacker 2, with the continued bombing, didnt we stand a chance of actually winning the war being that the NVA could not take the continuous bombing? Charlie was actually treating our POWs decently because they were scared. We couldve won, couldnt we?
@ninemilliondollars
@ninemilliondollars Жыл бұрын
It's more that that. In Korea, we fought the war against North Korea, but took a hands-off approach to dealing with insurgency in South Korea. We left it to the South Korean government. In Vietnam, the US attempted to resolve insurgency with counter-insurgency efforts. In the process, they never gained the support/hearts and minds of the people. That's one factor why when we left that the war didn't succeed. Another was that the US Congress cut off funding for the war and the US had to leave. The South Vietnamese Army was left with out support nor replacement supplies and was finally overwhelmed after two years.
@andywhite40
@andywhite40 Жыл бұрын
Great video many thanks!! However it does beg one very large question - why wasn't this done 7 or 8 years before?? I find it astonishing that the US government effectively tied the hands of the Air Force behind their backs until this operation.
@Nebulax123
@Nebulax123 Жыл бұрын
The politicians were afraid that it would drag China or Russia into the war. As a Vietnam vet we always knew we could take them out in a few days if they just untied our hands.
@HeadPack
@HeadPack Жыл бұрын
Similar to Afghanistan or Ukraine. The longer some conflicts take, the more money is made in the defense sector.
@danielblahuta3330
@danielblahuta3330 Жыл бұрын
Politics and money.
@kurtamesbury6679
@kurtamesbury6679 Жыл бұрын
Political cowardice and greed. There is a class of Americans who willingly sell American lives for money. They are generally politicians and weapons manufacturers.
@koozizzel
@koozizzel Жыл бұрын
Why was it done at all? Little chance the vietnamese were going to invade the US.
@erikred8217
@erikred8217 Жыл бұрын
I really like your videos DS. But I got this buddy who's Laotian and I just can't get behind the music for this one. Cambodia. Anyway. Just feels a little light. Thanks again.
@Theflag_Streamersguy
@Theflag_Streamersguy 3 күн бұрын
Glad to see Grampa Buff getting some extracurricular attention ❤
@kne2323
@kne2323 Жыл бұрын
Can we all just appreciate our brave men and women? I want to shake every one of their hands. Fantastic design and utilization of our military equipment as well. I distinctly remember my uncle giving me a B52 model when I was young - I stared in admiration at that beauty many many times. Salute to all my veteran brothers and sisters….
@prsearls
@prsearls Жыл бұрын
While I was stationed at Danang AB in 1965/66. I witnessed/heard B-52 strikes near the base. It was an awesome sight and sound like nothing else short of nuclear.
@ACEE_femboy
@ACEE_femboy Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so perfectly made and have the the facts and information I need, I watch way too much stuff about war and play games that have wars, I’m am 14 and I should legally be allowed to be a War historian with anything that is World War One and 2 and later
@wxexw
@wxexw Жыл бұрын
Just a thought - maybe remove the artificial film grain and analog flaw filters from the historical footage?
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 Жыл бұрын
B-52 was designed to be a Nuclear Strategic Bomber. What they did in Viet Nam doesn't even touch on what it's maximum capability is.
@mikecummings6593
@mikecummings6593 Жыл бұрын
Yes considering we lost
@cedricliggins7528
@cedricliggins7528 Жыл бұрын
No way
@nunyabizness9216
@nunyabizness9216 Жыл бұрын
Correct.
@billthompson301
@billthompson301 Жыл бұрын
If they had used the B-52s shown carrying the Hound Dog missiles there wouldn't have been much left of the cities. They carried a full load of thermonuclear weapons and were targeted at the USSR.
@oculosprudentium8486
@oculosprudentium8486 Жыл бұрын
Nothing says "Screw You" than a long line of B-52"s coming in to turn your place back to the store age and earlier.
@RobertFairweatherMusic
@RobertFairweatherMusic Жыл бұрын
K Mart was a thing in the store age.
@h3llb3nt
@h3llb3nt Жыл бұрын
And yet still lost
@meetoo594
@meetoo594 Жыл бұрын
Allowed America to surrender less embarrassingly I guess. Entire conflict was a huge waste of time and lives for some bullshit political gain, it achieved nothing.
@oculosprudentium8486
@oculosprudentium8486 6 ай бұрын
@@h3llb3nt as a certain general once said General wins Wars Politicians lose Wars. And pretty soon they call out the soldiers to come do it again
@oculosprudentium8486
@oculosprudentium8486 4 ай бұрын
@@h3llb3nt There is now a well-proven thing. Generals WIN wars Politicians LOSE wars. It was those DC politicians who loved to micromanage things that screwed it up
@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P
@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P Жыл бұрын
Thanks Airmen!!! From USN Vet 20+ years!!
@seventhson27
@seventhson27 Жыл бұрын
My Cousin flew "top cover" for the B52s on their first mission over Hanoi. "The sams were like the 4th of July and they didn't hit a single plane." Such was the jamming equipment on the Buffs.
@seventhson27
@seventhson27 Жыл бұрын
The direction of the jamming signal was cone-shaped downwards. If they banked too steeply the sams could come in from the side.
@seventhson27
@seventhson27 Жыл бұрын
The B52s were also vulnerable from above by Migs. Thus the "top cover."
@Power5
@Power5 Жыл бұрын
7:34 did you say that the Strat was iconic in the later phases of WW2? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying? Are you just saying that bombers were iconic then and for LB2?
@fer12prado
@fer12prado Жыл бұрын
It was a great surprise to learn that the B52 took part in ww2 ... kkkk
@mmasque2052
@mmasque2052 Жыл бұрын
That is a mistake in the narration. The B-52s never flew in World War 2. They weren’t even constructed until the 1950s.
@navret1707
@navret1707 Жыл бұрын
I think the narrator was referring to strategic bombing in general in WWII and after.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 Жыл бұрын
We could give him the benefit of considering he meant "the bomber" as a whole, not just one aircraft model.
@scottgorman7166
@scottgorman7166 Жыл бұрын
You are correct. It was a test to see if we are paying attention.
@stellarpod
@stellarpod Жыл бұрын
At 2:15, you state "...Secretary of Defense, Henry Kissenger...". In fact, Henry Kissenger was NEVER the Secretary of Defense. Although he did maintain the office of Secretary of State from September 22, 1973 until January 20, 1977, in 1972 at the Peace Talks, he was the National Security Advisor - NOT the "Secretary of Defense".
@danielmarcelruest3196
@danielmarcelruest3196 Жыл бұрын
My uncle was a rad op on a b-52 , got shot down , survived but was taken prisoner , he spend 4 + years at the Hanoi Hilton … Respect RIP R Swan .
@Truthteller0001
@Truthteller0001 Жыл бұрын
I hope the SOB is now in a very warm place
@ninemilliondollars
@ninemilliondollars Жыл бұрын
@@Truthteller0001 Not nice to say that.
@ninemilliondollars
@ninemilliondollars Жыл бұрын
The "Hanoi Taxi" which transported the former prisoners back to the United States was a Lockheed C-141 Starlifter stratigic airlift aircraft. It's on display at the National Musuem of the Air Force in Dayton, OH. It's an incredible sight to see and one can only feel how wonderful it must have been to see that in Vietnam and get on it and take off. I honor your Uncle for his service. US Army '70-71
@captainnitrousx1331
@captainnitrousx1331 7 ай бұрын
My father flew 3 of these Missions in December of 72 out of Guam. The missions were exhausting from Guam as well as the fear of being shot down. Guys flying D models out of Thailand flew more missions cause they were closer. 14 hour missions out of Guam vs 4 hour missions from Northern Thailand.
@MD72538
@MD72538 2 ай бұрын
thanh you for mentioning the fear by the US pilots of being shot down!! ❤
@captainnitrousx1331
@captainnitrousx1331 2 ай бұрын
@@MD72538 Well there are 6 guys to a crew not just 2 pilots. The mission planners from the wings, ACs, CPs, Navs really had a lot of responsibility and fear just flying the Mission routes, on time with the correct altitude and headings at 450 plus knots in the dark of night with the sky full of the latest Russian Surface to Air Missiles. Every man on those crews from Gunner, EW to AC were probably shaking busy beavers. Every A/C and Nav leading the bomber 3 plane cells bore a heavy burden of responsibility making sure the lead cell plane is on time for target, turns and tanker rendezvous in the dark. Getting shot down was just one of many fears on those December evenings I would imagine. A/Cs really earned the title Aircraft Commander on those missions.
@georgewbushcenterforintell147
@georgewbushcenterforintell147 Жыл бұрын
God bless all the vets that fought in Vietnam or any conflict.
@nguyenhung-uu7vx
@nguyenhung-uu7vx Жыл бұрын
bles what? bless those warmonger?
@Countach100
@Countach100 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you show the conflicts evenly from both sides and how you differentiate between superb military work and deplorable political decisions.
@paulscotchsmychannelyourch9940
@paulscotchsmychannelyourch9940 Жыл бұрын
such a beautiful bomber ... over engineered ... love the b52s .... i played for their co in football here in OZ ..... Cheers mwahh
@davidvenegas6401
@davidvenegas6401 Жыл бұрын
Talk about "they don't make them like they used to". 💯
@lib556
@lib556 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, as always. Kissinger was not SECDEF as you state. He was the NSA. LB 2 worked. I often wonder how things might have been different if that level of focus and intensity had been used earlier.
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 Жыл бұрын
All for naught. The Domino Theory was flawed and ironically in the early 1990s the USA went back to trading with Vietnam as if nothing happened. Sad all around.
@cstgraphpads2091
@cstgraphpads2091 Жыл бұрын
@@raylopez99 It wasn't flawed, it just wasn't taken seriously.
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Жыл бұрын
I knew a USAF veteran who’d been a B-52 tail gunner during those missions over Vietnam
@donlarocque5157
@donlarocque5157 Жыл бұрын
When I was in the Air Force in 83 I knew a guy that was a tail gunner on the B 52. He was getting out while I was going in.
@estellemelodimitchell8259
@estellemelodimitchell8259 Жыл бұрын
Did he shoot down any MIGs?
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Жыл бұрын
@@estellemelodimitchell8259 …. IDK if he’d shot at any. He never said
@NoJokes11B
@NoJokes11B Жыл бұрын
Today Vietnam and America are important trading partners. I work in the seafood industry. The US imports a lot of seafood from Vietnam. Millions of Vietnamese live in America too. If we can be friends today, then why did we fight each other in the first place? That’s how I always see these wars.
@ninemilliondollars
@ninemilliondollars Жыл бұрын
Many of the Vietnamese that live outside of Vietnam, like in the US, the UK, other countries, escaped so they wouldn't be subject to re-education camps in North Vietnam, or be killed (See "Vietnamese boat people" on wikipedia.) They were in support of the US. As for Vietnam, they were run by the hardcore communist party after the war until the 1990's when they had to relent and allow capitalism to seep in. The people were starving and they had to do something about that. So the Vietnam of today isn't the same as the one of post-war. And even now religious freedom is limited even though their constitution proclaims all are free.
@johnjustice5595
@johnjustice5595 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a b52 bomber pilot during the Vietnam war
@tuantrinh9633
@tuantrinh9633 3 ай бұрын
Bạn và ông nội bạn có thấy điều gì hối tiếc khi đi giết hại người dân Việt Nam chúng tôi
@rich7447
@rich7447 Жыл бұрын
At 7:40 the narrator says that the bomber (B-52) was still as iconic as in was in the latter staged of WW2. The B-52 wasn't in service until 1955.
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat Жыл бұрын
I'm finding more and more errors with these "Dark [whatevers]" videos. He also referred to Henry Kissinger at one point at the Secretary of Defense.
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb Жыл бұрын
I think he meant "the bomber" as bombers in general, not a particular model. "Bombers" would in that case have been a better word.
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb Жыл бұрын
@@whiteknightcat Yeah, there's always a few factual errors in his videos and that about Kissinger was a grave one. Maybe it's intentional just to kick up the comments count but I don't really think so.
@plantfeeder6677
@plantfeeder6677 Жыл бұрын
@@skunkjobb yes he did. I got it. You got it. But it seems a lot of know-it-alls have their heads up their collective you know where and don't hear a thing. He did say "The Bomber"(generic form), not This Bomber, is as useful as it was....
@shatterquartz
@shatterquartz Жыл бұрын
I was in Hanoi last month, and there were commemorations for the 50th anniversary of Linebacker II. For that huge amount of destruction and loss of life, all the US achieved was a slight postponement of the reunification of Vietnam. Was that worth it? Today Vietnam is a unified, vibrant country and it welcomes foreigners with open arms as long as they come in peace.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael Жыл бұрын
No, by any sane measure it was a huge loss for everybody involved. I blame Lee Harvey Oswald. With John Kennedy's death the Profane President LBJ came to power, and he wanted that war in the worst way. Nixon was too much of a politician to exit expeditiously, so a million or more Vietnamese had to die. What a waste!
@ArcFixer
@ArcFixer Жыл бұрын
Good point. The video peddles the old "we're killing them to save them from being slaves to a an evil commie regime" insanity. That's bullshit and we lost. We should have known better. The best we could do was a bloody draw in Korea.
@ninemilliondollars
@ninemilliondollars Жыл бұрын
The war didn't end until two years after the US left. That's not a slight postponement. The US trained the South Vietnamese military very well. And as for a "unified, vibrant country," try to explain why 2-3 million Vietnamese people put their lives at risk escaping by boat so they wouldn't be killed or re-educated by the North Vietnamese. They still don't like what happened in Vietnam. Plus, post-war, the ruling party in Vietnam were such hardcore communists many of the people ended up starving. It wasn't until the '90's that they had to relent and let people start businesses. Furthermore, freedom of religion is merely stated in their constitution, but in reality, there are restrictions regarding religious practice including registration requirements, control boards, and surveillance. Nope, not the utopia you describe.
@shatterquartz
@shatterquartz Жыл бұрын
@@ninemilliondollars Plenty of people also left the 13 Colonies after they became independent, I've never heard any American use that as an argument against independence. I will also point out that the US keeps a larger percentage of its population behind bars than Vietnam (or China for that matter), so glass houses and all that.
@ninemilliondollars
@ninemilliondollars Жыл бұрын
@@shatterquartz I hear you. And the question is do we have more crime in the US or Vietnam/China? Hard to explain why more are in prison here.
@scubaguy14
@scubaguy14 Жыл бұрын
I had a tour of a B52 at AFB Andersen when I was in jr. high school.... tiny tiny cockpit, and then everything else is just to hold bombs lol
@stevendorris5713
@stevendorris5713 Жыл бұрын
Those Hound Dog missiles were quite impressive!!! How many were fired???
@badguy5554
@badguy5554 Жыл бұрын
The Hound Dogs were long ranged missiles designed for use against the Soviet Union. Don't believe they were used at anytime during the Vietnam War.
@barrygrant2907
@barrygrant2907 Жыл бұрын
None over VN. They were nuclear weapons.
@Pointman-yf6or
@Pointman-yf6or Жыл бұрын
1967/68 is when this was needed! B52’s over hanoi 24/7! Maybe some of my comrades would be alive today instead of lieing dead and wounded on lz hardcore feb 68.
@popefang
@popefang Жыл бұрын
fighting an unjust war that you lost
@KomarBrolan
@KomarBrolan Жыл бұрын
Unjust? The citizens of South Vietnam have been oppressed by a communist dictatorship since end of the war.
@othgmark1
@othgmark1 Жыл бұрын
@@popefang really you are certain of this? War is never good but the other side did some pretty deplorable stuff too. The sizeable Vietnamese population in the United States didn't move because the other side were such good guys. You don't have to agree but show some respect for the sacrifices that were made. Without those sacrifices you might be living in a country where your post alone would get you jailed.
@orianflournoy6764
@orianflournoy6764 Жыл бұрын
2001 Bagram Afghanistan... I look up and see the contrails from a B-52 circling overhead..... it was a very quiet day. They never landed, but is was nice knowing they were there😁
@ThisTall
@ThisTall Жыл бұрын
“Some of the heaviest bombings since WW2” Cambodia “hold my beer”.
@--Skip--
@--Skip-- Жыл бұрын
The one time, the US didn't fight the Vietcong with its hands tied behind its back. It is a real shame politicians conducted the Vietnam War. Otherwise, we could have been out of there by 1966.
@cplcabs
@cplcabs Жыл бұрын
except its not. Thats a myth to perpetrate that politicians lost the war. The fact is, the US military put all its might in Vietnam and lost as it did in Afghanistan and Iraq
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