Your "experience" doesn't override scripture. As a new believer we can make many mistakes, believe me I speak from experience. But through following the faithful teaching of biblical pastors, like Pastor Osman and Pastor Hinn, reading your bible every day without fail, Prayer and the most importantly the work of the Holy Spirit, you will learn from these mistakes as you grow in sanctification and understanding. Recommend you start with the book of John. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+1&version=LSB 1st lesson of a new believer, don't ever put your "experiences" as authoritative, they're not. If you are a faithful follower of Jesus the Messiah, you'll repent and I'll see this comment deleted later. If not, I suggest you read this: Gospel means good news! The bad news is we have all sinned and deserve the wrath to come. But Jesus the Messiah died for our sins, was buried, and then raised on the third day, according to the scriptures. He ascended into heaven and right now is seated at the Father's right hand. Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." Otherwise one day you will be one of the many who'll hear this: Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, in Your name did we not prophesy, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’ URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:22-23&version=LSB

Wonderful testimony, I had a similar experience as a new believer being walked through scripture about receiving the Holy Spirits empowerment to live in holiness, I had been praying for months to have the same experience as what I read in the book of acts, one day God sort of sovereignty set it up - I happened to meet with a long time pastor and family friend and somehow the topic came up, he said he would pray either way me right then and there, as he prayed for me I felt a peace come over me and out of my mouth came other tongues. Immediately following I started to be hungry for scripture, and the sins I lived in I had no desire for any longer. Friendships I had that brought me into sin I walked away from, and I had an endless urge to be in church whenever the doors were open or to be wherever Gods people are. I began to have a desire and began to share Jesus and His word with everyone, it’s been fifteen years and it didn’t stop. Of course my hunger for Gods word has grown but I absolutely point to that as being a foundational experience that I cannot deny. I’ve had plenty of supernatural experiences after the fact including tongues, and been around several pastors whom God has sovereignly done miracles where God spoke through them in a known tongue to a bilingual person, while they just thought they were speaking or praying in tongues. There is unquestionably abuses, hence why there is an entire chapter in the Bible devoted to the subject. But cannot throw the baby out with the bath water.

@@aronlilland7638 Thank you for your courage and sharing this. I really appreciate you acknowledging my moment with God. And I acknowledge yours, it's not at all far fetched or non- scriptural. I come from a background of unbelief and skepticism before I was saved. But when this happened to me it was sure as day that it was Jesus. Our other brothers and sisters, like the church member above who responded to me suggesting I had a false experience and that I am a stronger candidate than they to be cast out into outer darkness, unfortunately cannot comprehend it. But I understand that, it's just too bad they judge it and grieve the Holy Spirit and other believers. Thank God that He is our Salvation and Truth and not man. However, reformed doctrine has taught me a lot and encouraged me to be sober and I find it very refreshing. I just can't deny my God or limit him to a doctrine when He Himself came to my room and baptized me. God said if you seek Me you will find Me. You won't seek let alone find this from God if you don't believe or judge unfairly. the way different denominations interpret scripture is very interesting, but at the end of the day I hope all who doubt will at least believe Jesus 'for his works' sake'. God bless you and your family, and your church. In Jesus' Wonderful and Mighty Name. Amen.

@@KootenaiChurch You are correct, my experience did not override scripture. But I believe that scripture was fulfilled in my experience. Those Rivers were certainly not a metaphor. Thank you for the resources; It's interesting, in a Sovereign and ironic way, that you refer me to the Book of John. I tell you what: Hoping that you don't only dish out, but will eat, I ask you to join me - let us both go and read the *Gospel of John* again in the next couple of weeks. Not to prove each other wrong, but to let God reprove us, sharpen us, teach us, and reveal Himself to us both. The conditions are that we must be teachable and trust Him in Faith. And let's pray for God to bless us and our church while we do, and to give us the Pure Gospel and Jesus Christ from reading it. Do you agree to this? Ideally after this, if possible, I'd like you to join me in re-reading *The Book of Acts* . May God bless you brother/sister.

I had a similar experience. I was with a Christian friend sharing the Lord when I felt water bubbling up within me from my belly. As it continued a different words came to me ( not from my head but from inside) and I spoke them. We then prayed together. Later that week I prayed and asked the Lord to show me if this was really him as I didn’t want anything false or if the occult. Later while laying in bed, I had a vision. My eyes were wide open and I saw a sheet coming down from Heaven. I shook my head and said I can’t be seeing this. And I didn’t see it anymore. But it was still there and when it landed on me, my insides just shook and I was bathed in love. Not my physical inside but it was like my spirit. I was in the same dedicated frame of mind as you were. That being said, I stay totally away from all the gift seeking today as it seems to be for glorifying self. I am reformed in faith now but I also know there is a real experience and I believe such speaking in tongues is rare. Because of the massive abuse going on today it’s easy to dismiss it all. But I know what I know from the Lord… and I found the Lord said that out of our belly shall flow rivers of living water. It’s true

So glad you've joined us from South Australia! Hope you'll check out the 2023 Equipping Conference: Inside the Prosperity Gospel Movement with Costi Hinn: kzfaq.info/sun/PL1mHXD8UtiupMdTXCEc96XcYBnoadHynl

Wonderful! Thank you sharing.

You might like the Testimony of Costi Hinn kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebp_eMR3tcm4pIE.html

🎉🙏... also from SA!

Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

Glad you could join us. You can find out more about Pastor Costi Hinn at: www.forthegospel.org/

but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, that is Christ, - Ephesians 4:15 (read.lsbible.org/?q=Ephesians+4%3A15)

Thank you for the thoughtful comment. You can learn more about Pastor Hinn and his ministry at: www.forthegospel.org/costi-hinn

Glad you found this edifying. Be sure to check out the 2023 Equipping Conference: Inside the Prosperity Gospel Movement with Pastor Costi Hinn: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebp_eMR3tcm4pIE.html

I (Peter Hammond) understand the challenges you’re facing; for years, my family and I committed to a 1.5-hour drive one way just to attend Kootenai Community Church. I thank God, because eventually we moved, and now we're just 2 minutes away. I'd like to share some wisdom imparted to me by Justin Peters, which has guided me through these challenges. Firstly, unless you hold a leadership role, it’s not your responsibility to rectify the issues within a troubled church. Secondly, and most crucially, the paramount priority is to ensure your family is part of a strong, scripturally sound church. This includes everything from the sermons and the teaching to the music and all other aspects of church life. Heeding the advice of such a faithful brother, I encourage you to spare no effort in finding a church that upholds biblical truths firmly from the pulpit to the music and all it's aspects. More faithful teaching from Justin Peters at: www.youtube.com/@JustinPetersMin

You are so welcome, very thankful you have joined us from Poland!

As He says also in Hosea, “I WILL CALL THOSE WHO WERE NOT MY PEOPLE, ‘MY PEOPLE,’ AND HER WHO WAS NOT BELOVED, ‘BELOVED.’” “AND IT SHALL BE THAT IN THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAID TO THEM, ‘YOU ARE NOT MY PEOPLE,’ THERE THEY SHALL BE CALLED SONS OF THE LIVING GOD.” - Romans 9:25-26 LSB read.lsbible.org/?q=rom+9%3A25-26

You should check out Costi Hinn's website: www.forthegospel.org/costi-hinn Pastor Hinn serves as the Teaching Pastor at Shepherd’s House Bible Church in Chandler, AZ. He is currently completing his doctorate at The Master’s Seminary, and the author of several books including, Knowing the Spirit (Zondervan, 2023), More Than a Healer, God, Greed, and the (Prosperity) Gospel, and Defining Deception.

It is an amazing work that God has done rescuing Pastor Costi Hinn from that mess of a ministry, certainly shows how mighty our God is to save!

Costi Hinn serves as the Teaching Pastor at Shepherd’s House Bible Church in Chandler, AZ. He is currently completing his doctorate at The Master’s Seminary, and the author of several books including, Knowing the Spirit (Zondervan, 2023), More Than a Healer, God, Greed, and the (Prosperity) Gospel, and Defining Deception. www.forthegospel.org/costi-hinn

Thanks brother - I would like to know if he has ever FELT the tangible Spirit of the Lord and his views on it 👍👍

In the Law it is written, “By men of strange tongues and by the lips of strangers I will speak to this people, and even so they will not listen to Me,” says the Lord. URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2014:21&version=LSB

Recommend reading the entire book rather than quoting a single verse out of context. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%201&version=LSB

In Him, you also, after listening to the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation-having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.- Ephesians 1:13-14 read.lsbible.org/?q=Ephesians+1%3A13-14

Very sorry as that certainly doesn't sound like a biblically sound Christian Church.

@@KootenaiChurch It wasn’t and I left. Oddly enough I’ve started preaching with a different (in every way) UPCI church. I preached on the sufficiency of scripture, using Justin Peters’s and Costi’s material. Hope that was ok 😬

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In Him, you also, after listening to the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation-having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory. - Ephesians 1:13 - 14 (read.lsbible.org/?q=Ephesians+1%3A13-14)

Recommend you check out the most excellent documentary Cessationist cessationistmovie.com/

Your experience is not something that can be validated - that is why we need to rely on the truth of Scripture. And your confusion can be addressed by starting with the Gospel. Gospel means good news! The bad news is we have all sinned and deserve the wrath to come. But Jesus the Messiah died for our sins, was buried, and then raised on the third day, according to the scriptures. He ascended into heaven and right now is seated at the Father's right hand. Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." A great place to learn more is the book of John. read.lsbible.org/?q=john+1

Thank you

It is important to not confuse descriptive texts in scripture like you highlight in Acts, with prescriptive instructions or principles for living a Christian life like in Ephesians. And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord; always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father; and being subject to one another in the fear of Christ. read.lsbible.org/?q=Ephesians+5%3A18-21 To your point of repetition, not all the verses involving the Holy Spirit describe or prescribe speaking in tongues by new believers (Acts 2:4, 2:37-47, 10:38). The repetition in all of the verses describes confirmation of authority by the Holy Spirit given to the Apostles (and Jesus in 10:38). Which is the purpose of the gifts.

@@KootenaiChurch Thanks for your comments. In regards to your comments. Speaking in "tongues" as the initial evidence that a believer has recieved the Holy Spirit, in Acts ch.2,10,and ch.19, and the born again believers private prayer language doesn't qualify as one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit according to Pauls' descriptition of the purpose of the spiritual gifts( 1Cor.12:7). According to the time honored Law Of Repetitition these examples need only be repeated three times in order to set the precedent, not everytime in scripture that the Holy Spirit is recieved by the believer/ believers.

@@KootenaiChurch The verses i gave you, Acts ch.2,10, and ch.19, are not descriptive ,but prescriptive and are the keys to the kingdom.of heaven that Jesus gave Peter in Matt.16:9.

You should not elevate your experiences over the truth of God's Word. Encourage you to check out this biblically sound documentary for further clarification: cessationistmovie.com/

@@KootenaiChurch My experience was God's truth. Encourage you to read your Bible

Oooh, saying our experiences are God's truth is really dangerous....think about the ramifications of that

@@kristy9839 The ramifications was that I was filled with the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues

Hi David, appreciate that you have many questions, however your spamming the comments, and they have been removed. I recommend you reach out to him directly at www.forthegospel.org/costi-hinn

We are not apostles and do not need those signs, as Paul and the other early church leaders did, however we are to still to Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. And to that point..... Gospel means good news! The bad news is we have all sinned and deserve the wrath to come. But Jesus the Messiah died for our sins, was buried, and then raised on the third day, according to the scriptures. He ascended into heaven and right now is seated at the Father's right hand. Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

Manny tried to discount the baptism of the Holy Spirit or doing ministry with the company signs. Saying that this part of Mark is not in the original so we don't except us. However if you go to first Corinthians chapter 2. Paul has come to Corinth after being in Athens. In Athens Paul tried to preach about Jesus Christ in the resurrection using philosophical and human reasoning to try to win over converts. He even quotes a pagan philosopher Aratus . You will notice that only if you were saved there. Now he comes to Corinth. And he says that he would not come with flowery or eloquent speech of human reasoning but he would preach Jesus Christ and him crucified in the power and demonstration of the Holy Spirit. Signs and wonders are what he's talking about. Hope that helps

@@davidwireback8621 there are now not apostels and profets .The profetes speak tru the bible and the apostelen also.It s not for today

Infant baptism is just a bath.

Indeed.

For this is the one referred to by Isaiah the prophet, saying, “The voice of one crying in the wilderness, ‘Make ready the way of the Lord, Make His paths straight!’”- read.lsbible.org/?q=Matthew+3%3A3

And at that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and will deceive many. URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024:10-11&version=LSB

But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2012:36-37&version=LSB

Praise Him with tambourine and dancing; Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe. Praise Him with resounding cymbals; Praise Him with clashing cymbals. Let everything that has breath praise Yah. Praise Yah! - Psalm 150:4-5 read.lsbible.org/?q=Psalms+150%3A4-6

“Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity?’ But the son has done justice and righteousness and has kept all My statutes and done them. He shall surely live. The soul who sins will die. The son will not bear the iniquity of the father, nor will the father bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. - read.lsbible.org/?q=Ezekiel+18%3A19-20

@@KootenaiChurch Are you trying to argue with me?

Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you yourself also be like him. Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own eyes. read.lsbible.org/?q=Proverbs+26%3A4-5

@@KootenaiChurch That is why I spoke. If you are calling me a fool then PSALM 2. You are a broken vessel.

WDYD! I'm shocked you would take that out of context and accuse a faithful pastor of a false gospel. You need to be thoughtful of the Gospel yourself. Gospel means good news! The bad news is we have all sinned and deserve the wrath to come. But Jesus the Messiah died for our sins, was buried, and then raised on the third day, according to the scriptures. He ascended into heaven and right now is seated at the Father's right hand. Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." For more information recommend read.lsbible.org/?q=john+1

John 5:24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.@@KootenaiChurch This from Christ and No mention of repentance .

Now after John had been delivered up into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” - Mark 1:14-15

John 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. John 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Acts 16:31 They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” John 20:31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name. There are more but I think you get the point, nothing about repentance. Is the Bible a contradiction? @@KootenaiChurch

​@@WDYD What I don't understand is why you only seem to accept some verses from the Bible, but not others. How do decide which ones you accept and which ones you do not accept? You seem to accept only verses about being saved that don't talk about repentance, but you do not want to mention verses about being saved that do talk about repentance. You are re-writing the Bible by picking and choosing what you want to accept. When you do this you are choosing the verses that line up with the view that you want to have and rejecting all the other verses. However, God is the inspiration for all verses in scripture. By rejecting the verses about repentance you are saying that your perspective is much more important than God's perspective. You are making yourself to be God. Also, there are several English definitions for the word "believe". You need to get a good understanding of what the Biblical view of "believe" means. It does not just mean knowing something is true in your head, but also has a concept of giving yourself to that belief and following in that way. To do that, repentance is necessary. Here are a couple of examples that do talk about repentance: Acts 26: "I did not prove disobedient to the heavenly vision, but continually proclaimed...that they are to repent and turn to God, performing deeds consistent with repentance." You will see here there is the concept of repenting and turning to God. This is the Biblical concept of what true belief is. It includes both repenting (turning away from) and turning to God. You cannot turn to God if you do not turn away from your own ways. 2 Corinthians 7: "For the sorrow that is according to God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death." Here it shows that Godly sorrow produces repentance and repentance leads to salvation. I very much agree with the verses that you posted, but I also agree with the verses that I posted here. You seem to make a comment about accepting both is a contradiction. I see no contradiction here. All these verses are taken together to make one complete concept. It is not a contradiction to accept both. All of these verses are part of God's Word and need to be accepted as the truth.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [a]He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%201:1-3&version=LSB