The Bare Minimum (was enough) - Microsoft Surface Laptop 5

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Microsoft is back with another Surface Laptop, and Alex is here to see if the minor refinements added to the new Laptop 5 make a difference or if Microsoft is losing the laptop war to Apple's Macbook.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 It's BACK!
0:25 15" unboxing and ports
1:58 13.5" unboxing and ports
2:27 Windows Hello works GREAT!
2:53 Sponsor - Brilliant
3:20 Keyboard flex test
4:11 Display, trackpad, and keyboard impressions
6:58 CPU specs and Cinebech testing
8:20 Display/Speaker test and MacBook comparison
10:08 Gaming performance - Valheim
10:57 Webcam and mic test
11:22 Teardown
13:25 Overall thoughts and pricing
14:39 Outro

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@_Turbocat777 Жыл бұрын

I would actually appreciate a longer rant/standalone video from Alex going a bit more in depth about Windows modern standby and why it's terrible and what would be better. maybe Anthony could also be in it and add some more helpful ideas on how to fix it.

@MrGamelover23 Жыл бұрын

Step one: do not copy Linux, this is an area where Linux absolutely fails.

@jeroenk3570 Жыл бұрын

Me too, I don't really understand what the problem is.

@mikebrownphotography2784 Жыл бұрын

@@jeroenk3570 when you put a windows laptop into sleep by closing the lid. The laptop keeps running. Drains your battery and gets hot in your backpack. When a MacBook goes into sleep, it actually sleeps. Doesn’t use battery and wakes up quickly when needed

@ionstorm66 Жыл бұрын

@@mikebrownphotography2784 which is really dumb, because hibernating with modern nvme drives is so fast. Like a 16GB laptop takes seconds to hibernate or wake. All Microsoft needs is to standardize a method to wake from lid open/keypress from hibernation. Which they totally could do on their own hardware first.

@ChrisPurdie Жыл бұрын

I'd subscribe to floatplane for a longer, uncensored rant.

@HarryPhillips1453 Жыл бұрын

That's a pathetic amount of I/O for an expensive 15" laptop

@SnoopGotTheScoop Жыл бұрын

it's the apple strategy

@startedtech Жыл бұрын

@@SnoopGotTheScoop the io on the new MacBook Pros are quite a bit better than this, lol.

@Surtak Жыл бұрын

@@startedtech Well sure but these start at 899. You can add a dongle boi for that difference :P

@NigelMelanisticSmith Жыл бұрын

I have to use one for work, and it's IO is indeed horrible. The worst part is the single USB Type C, since using an External Display at all uses the only available USB C Port. Plus, the USB A Port on the Charger is pretty dodgy when using Linux or Enterprise Windows. I have to use USB C and USB A hubs just for it to be usable for more than 2 things at a time.

@Mkrabs Жыл бұрын

@@startedtech ah yes, 2 thunderbold ports...

@5Doum Жыл бұрын

I like that Alex keeps complaining about Windows modern standby. Hopefully one day Microsoft will finally fix it.

@EkiToji Жыл бұрын

It truly is terrible but wouldn't be so bad if more laptops let you have more BIOS control so you could force S3 instead.

@ids1024 Жыл бұрын

@@EkiToji Sure, for power users all that really matters is having some way to change it (or at least any easy way without hacks to load customized ACPI tables). But if it isn't overall better for typical users, it shouldn't be the default and shouldn't require this to get better behavior.

@joeykeilholz925 Жыл бұрын

My brain literally expects to hear it when I see Alex and a laptop (it IS trash to be clear)

@EkiToji Жыл бұрын

@@ids1024 I can't think of any reason Modern Standby would be better when not plugged in.

@ImJustPassingThrough Жыл бұрын

I like that he keeps mentioning it. Linus just excused the latest nvidia reviews saying people don't like to hear things repeated. That's wrong. People do need to be reminded. Thanks Alex!

@Grumbo91 Жыл бұрын

I always enjoy Alex's windows modern standby rants. I'd echo others in being interested in a standalone video about it.

@BobRooney290 9 ай бұрын

terrible laptop line in general. i'm surprised they put in a removable ssd. many MANY people including myself were PISSED that they lost their data permanently since the iterations prior to this one soldered the ssd drive to the board. would never buy another microcrap hardware product again. the resentment is for life! microcrap did this intentionally, not just once, but many times. cant ever respect this company after it royally screwed many people over and held their data hostage.

@roshan002 Жыл бұрын

Alex, I would really appreciate it if you could channel all that rage you have for Windows Modern Standby and make a stand-alone video about it. I am one of these 'die-hard' Windows Users (never purchased a single Apple product) and I am definitely getting a Macbook this holiday because of the terrible sleep issues that Windows laptops have. Maybe if you guys ran a full story on this issue, someone at Microsoft will attempt to fix it. Please and thank you!!!!

@leonro Жыл бұрын

Have you used hibernation mode? It's basically sleep mode, except you have to activate it in the settings.

@hishnash Жыл бұрын

You should try the low power mode on the modern Macs it is amazing, all the battery numbers people quote are in regular power mode! switching to low power mode tends to have a 20% perf impact for very heavy tasks but for everything else your not going to notice! Since it basicly turns off the perfomance cores and hard down clocks the GPU you end up saving a mad amount of power without a big drop in perf.

@sebastianjost Жыл бұрын

@@leonro hibernation is an annoying workaround for a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. If sleep was working properly, you would have much faster boot-up time than with hibernation, which can actually make quite a noticable difference.

@koalaunknown Жыл бұрын

If you have the money now, the 14” and 16” MacBooks are on good sales for Black Friday.

@nocommentarygaming2644 Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianjost Try disabling "connected standby" through the registry or group policy editor, I find it seems to mitigate most of the issues with modern standby, although S3 is still superior.

@ChilisauLP Жыл бұрын

12:49 A quick note for the editor. A watthour is not watt per hour, but watt times hour.

@oksu132 Жыл бұрын

whats the difference. 48 watts per hour is the same as 48 watts x 1 hr

@togden88 Жыл бұрын

@@oksu132 They're different measurements altogether. Watt-hours are a description of capacity. Watts/hour is a rate of energy usage.

@oksu132 Жыл бұрын

@@togden88 why do you think they named a capacity the definition for it's rate? its for this exact conversation. it's the same reason why mph is a measurement of speed when miles (a distance) is in its name. it's for easier conversion and can be used interchangeably. eg 50 mph (rate speed) is the same as 50 MILES per hr (distance) is the same as 50 miles per HR (time). therefore 48 watthours (capacity) is the same as 48 WATTS per hr (rate) is the same as 48 watts per HR (time). therefore saying 48 watts per hr can be interchangeable with 48 wh.

@little_forest Жыл бұрын

@@togden88 Watt-hour (P*t=E) is the unit of an energy and thus has a physical meaning. Watt per hour (P/t=E/t²) would be energy divided by by time squared and has no physical meaning.

@togden88 Жыл бұрын

@@oksu132 that's not how scientific units work, my friend. Look up dimensional analysis for more details.

@Thiagovnd Жыл бұрын

Hey editor, I really liked that shadow effect when showing the lasptop that was playing the audio, I used to be confused on that part of the video with only the text cue.

@braydennturner Жыл бұрын

Could we please get a dedicated video about Windows modern standby? I would love video of Alex just going into depth on the issue. Use this channels position to encourage Microsoft to finally do something about it.

@jasikes Жыл бұрын

Amazing energy! My SL3 is the best small laptop I've ever used, by far. As a regular engineer / consultant guy (doing PDF and occasional autocad) with a separate gaming desktop, I would choose this over the XPS's I've owned, or anything made of plastic that sucks air from my thighs for cooling. AND, standby has never, not once, messed up. One day with my XPS 15 and my backpack almost melted and fused to my t-shirt. If you do the office things, buy a used one, even an SL3 for much cheaper and forget about the latest tech - just pure joy in the typing, trackpad, and screen experience.

@thatpitter Жыл бұрын

9:30: 1600nit peak brightness in HDR only. The typical max brightness is 500nits, so that’s a LOT closer to the 400 nit on Surface

@jcfawerd Жыл бұрын

classic LTT, never does its research

@jcfawerd Жыл бұрын

@@SirJamesSomerville99 it’s not their first time to make this kind of silly mistakes

@JasonZakrajsek 5 ай бұрын

@@SirJamesSomerville99they make this mistake all the time.

@mixednutt42 Жыл бұрын

I love the dramatic tone shift when talking about modern standby. Thanks for the review. Great work as always.

@Jivy225 Жыл бұрын

I love it when he talks about windows modern standby. Its like a demon inside him just comes out for a second.

@justinlau Жыл бұрын

Really loving the editing lately! Makes watching it super super enjoyable and engaging ♥️

@Big007Boss Жыл бұрын

13:00 wait for it ..... My favorite moment of Alex's reviews of laptops.

@edwindungdung1998 Жыл бұрын

Killed it in the editing for the speaker test.

@Mak100ish Жыл бұрын

love the sleek design, but I wish it had a bit better performance :)

@MallocFree90 Жыл бұрын

Image them with a AMD 6800U... it would be just THE laptop.

@Mak100ish Жыл бұрын

@@MallocFree90 word

@filedotjar Жыл бұрын

yeahhh, 12th gen this late in 2022 is eh. either intel 13th gen (though that mightve required a delay) or ryzen 6000 series would have made this a much more competitive product for the price

@MallocFree90 Жыл бұрын

@@filedotjar Ryzen has an astonishing integrated gpu and a way better battery life than whatever Intel can offer

@PhatOof Жыл бұрын

Dell XPS is pretty sleek and far better performance

@Phoebus20 Жыл бұрын

Keep hammering them on the standby thing Alex, you're doing the Tech Lord's work.

@RussSirois Жыл бұрын

The action music during the Windows Modern Standby section is a great touch.

@NewtHew Жыл бұрын

I had a Surface Laptop 3 - loved it. Good speakers, excellent screen, great build and good performance. What let it down was the design - the housing looked sleek (if a little bland) but the bezels were downright ugly. I'd had a Huawei Matebook before it, and although the Huawei's build quality was awful, the display looked much more modern thanks to the slim bezels. Kind of disappointed to see the large bezels remain, but they are fantastic laptops.

@Novskyy621 Жыл бұрын

Just bought a Matebook 16 with Ryzen 7 5800H. Absolute monster for a low price, very good build quality, good design, very good battery life, no bloatware. Check that out.

@95yashsheel Жыл бұрын

what about Screen / display quality?

@NewtHew Жыл бұрын

@@95yashsheel On the Matebook or the Surface? Both were excellent, though the Matebook I owned had a peak brightness of 324 nits (rated at 300) and the Surface Laptop was closer to 450 (rated for 400). Both screens were 3:2 aspect ratio and good PPI

@marcopfeiffer3032 Жыл бұрын

The macbook advertises 500 nits of brightness in SDR content. So the similarity is expected. You'll need HDR content to get the 1600 nits from it.

@adrusi Жыл бұрын

There are hacks to force it to use the full brightness capabilities though. BetterTouchTool ships with the ability to let you toggle an ultrabright mode, though it really messes up image clarity.

@tipoomaster Жыл бұрын

I'm whelmed by this update. Last years AMD option got three hours more battery life according to the verge, and this year they'd have 5nm and RDNA 2 IGPs. This one is still struggling to meet that last years multicore and IGP performance and just wins single core by a bit, but that's against last years AMD, again. It's also launching well into the 12th gen lifespan so even with just looking at Intel it's going to spend half the year competing with 13th gen, which hopefully fixes the efficiency. And the years old design. To me, this is the very last generation they can get away with this, hopefully they refresh to 13th gen and a full physical refresh faster. I'd give up Thunderbolt for the option for a 5nm AMD model.

@moist_ointment Жыл бұрын

Neither Zen 3 nor RPL-u/p are launching this year, so it wasn't going to use chips that don't come out until 2023 H1

@maxschmidt9888 Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you. Normally I like Alex for his authenticity but this review seems extremly biased! This is a mediocre laptop for late 2022, especially for the price. They had the chance to take Surface to the next level with either this low power cpu and amazing batterie life, good performance uplift with like a 1240p or both with AMDs 6000 chips. But they did not and still the review seems like it's exeptional tech. Underwhelming..

@yellowflash511 Жыл бұрын

Exactly, Ryzen 6000 in these laptops would be amazing.

@adaml.5355 Жыл бұрын

Asus Zenbook Flip 14 OLED UN5401RA with Ryzen 6800H is $1200 and demolishes this laptop. About 12,100 in Cinebench R23 multi-core, can run Halo Infinite at 2880x1800 medium settings 40-50 FPS, fully sustained peak performance thanks to the cooling. The chassis is insanely stiff. The keyboard is perfect. The trackpad is great. The OLED display is gorgeous. And it comes with full size HDMI, USB A, and two USB C PD ports with USB 4 (Thunderbolt). Remind my why anyone would buy a Surface laptop? Oh, and the screen is 90hz. It even comes with 16GB of LPDDR5 standard and a 1 TB OEM Samsung 980 Pro, the fastest and most power efficient SSD on the market. And I get 9-10 hours of medium-light web browsing, office tasks, and video watching. To be fair, it does make quite a few overpriced Intel laptops on the market seem like a bad deal.

@yellowflash511 Жыл бұрын

@@adaml.5355 Yes Asus Zenbook and Vivobook laptops with OLED are great. I got my mom a Vivobook Pro 14 OLED recently to watch movies on the go and she loves it. Because of 5600h it also lasts quite awhile.

@Forcemaster104 Жыл бұрын

Loved the editing on this video, another great watch!

@tgascanguru Жыл бұрын

Those timed cuts on crab rave... Beautiful editing, team. Love your work

@Rodri1997R Жыл бұрын

The Surface Pro 9 comes with a 1080p webcam (since 2015) and 120hz screen (since 2021). There is absolutely no reason this more expensive laptop can't have both of those things.

@diamondly6250 Жыл бұрын

i hope it dose when im ready to upgrade from my pro 7

@aribloch Жыл бұрын

I've been using my surface laptop 4 with an external monitor on the USB C port and it works just fine. Not sure what difference thunderbolt would make, unless I wanted a bunch of external monitors rather than just one. I have a printer and charger hooked up to the USB C hub too.

@M1sterSuck Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU FOR CALLING OUT MODERN STANDBY. Most of my company is having major issues with their laptops running in their bags. One of them melted itself and almost caught fire in a bag at the airport

@oksu132 Жыл бұрын

then the issue is the person and what they have running. literraly one setting to change and problem fixed. hybernate on laptop close or dont have 1 mil things running on ur pc then close and expect nothing to happen. if phones had fans im sure it would be burning a hole in ur pockets they way yall run everything at once and expect long battery life.

@myaccount__7269 Жыл бұрын

@@oksu132 wrong. My 8th gen Samsung laptop had a 100% success rate when shutting lid to go to sleep. My 12th gen lg gram has a 30% chance of working when I close the lid. SETTIGNS are correct . It’s windows sucking

@oksu132 Жыл бұрын

@@myaccount__7269 there are multiple standby states. s0 - s04. each state is different and would need to be supported to function. ur 12th gen supports a different state than ur 8th gen. ie ur not using it correctly

@oksu132 Жыл бұрын

@@barnett25 the customer is always right except when the solution is already built in. imagine driving in sport mode all day n complaining about gas mileage. poor customer

@oksu132 Жыл бұрын

@@barnett25 ? ur PC goes into a lower power mode in modern standby. its not modern sleep. plug it in when it's in standby. clear benefit is ur PC is up to date and ready instead of having to do everything when u ready to use it.

@abeb.7578 Жыл бұрын

Great review but a few comments regarding the surface laptop 3 that I have been using since launch (3 years to the day). 1)You mention a thunderbolt port FINALLY being added. While that is great- I don’t think it really matters to your average user. Using the usbc port I connect to a dock that has 2 displays, a headset, charger, keyboard, and mouse. A dock is worlds cheaper than a whole new laptop. 2)personal opinion but I think the keyboard deserves more than you give it credit for 3)You mentioned we previously needed to use the MagSafe port to connect to things… I don’t think that is necessary (same logic as 1) 4)Build quality is on par with newest gen laptops. Again personal opinion but until they do a complete redesign I think the 3 is still a great option 3 years later.

@diegogarcia4255 Жыл бұрын

I work in IT, we used to buy a lot of Surface products, but they would have tons of issues like CMOS battery would fail over time, which is normal, but you can't replace it on older Surface products, and if you use two factor authentication like DUO or RSA, then you'll have sign in issues. I've had a lot of screens that detached, and down get me started with Surface Pro screens cracking, I ended up getting screen protectors for them. The worst thing is that unless the product was under warranty, you're screwed, and all Microsoft offered was an out of warranty replacement discount. I mean sure a discount is nice, but if I spent $2000 on a laptop, I expect at a minimum to be able to go 3 years without having to replace it. I'm glad they finally made them repairable. Anyways, we just go XPS 13/15 for premium laptops now, and they are far superior IMO.

@jackjoshlin8030 Жыл бұрын

MS fails with the power adapter, they missed the chance to add data access to the brick and add a useful port.

@belgianstar Жыл бұрын

Our company stopped using surface because of the lack of thunderbolt and the chargers and displays kept breaking. I’m not confident build quality is any better this time around

@MojeZycieWSkrocie Жыл бұрын

I have one of those that I bought “refurbished” in 2018 or 2019 I’m not even sure. I’m not even sure if it’s the first or the second generation lol. It’s still is my main machine and love it. I put refurbished within quotation marks because I’m almost certain nobody had used it before me. It was owned by a large corporation which they probably bought in quantities before returning them or whatever. I got it for about $650 - $700 I believe. One of the best purchases I have ever made.

@mihnealazar7039 Жыл бұрын

Editing with this one was 👌👌👌 well done editors! 8:34 lmaoo I loved this one

@bikesandbrass Жыл бұрын

Loving the thumbs up counter. We need this more for Alex's videos!

@iMaxPatten Жыл бұрын

Alex, the MacBook does deliver 1600 nits but that requires HDR content. Standard gamma stuff on macOS is limited to 500 nits. It’s the best laptop display for contrast, color accuracy, and overall brightness on the market.

@mahfah7911 Жыл бұрын

Love the editing. Hilarious. Specially during speaker test

@lewisse_8966 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for showcasing the flex seal cap. Looks like it performs great.

@AxsSkyHD Жыл бұрын

“Years” - Alex

@owaissiddqui6016 Жыл бұрын

The editing on this is top notch.. editor should get a raise also everytime the thumbs up counter raised up i loved it.

@nathanielblackwood9226 Жыл бұрын

6:50 "for comparison" ... loud ad starts playing, pure genius 🤣

@cubix626 Жыл бұрын

Keep it up Alex, keep calling out modern standby, I'm switching to Mac for my next laptop. I recently got a desktop and now I only need a laptop for basic tasks, so battery life and portability is paramount

@MrNubshow Жыл бұрын

Windows sleep mode has always been pretty hit or miss in my experience. Even 10 years ago, I remember opening my laptop up for class and finding it extremely hot and battery completely drained because of Windows failing to sleep.

@Neoxon619 Жыл бұрын

At least you can open it without completely destroying the metal now.

@edwinfndz Жыл бұрын

10:54 that webcam looks way more than just fine. And so does that internal audio.

@aribloch Жыл бұрын

13:20 this is an understatement ;) I closed my surface laptop 4 one night with 60% battery and when I woke up it was dead. Nothing was open except for chrome. I tried to look at what drained the battery and the settings had no idea. Sometimes ill open the lid and it will take 15-20 seconds to turn on for no reason. Most of the time it's instant. It's honestly so bad, it's unbelievable.

@Jay-xk6dj Жыл бұрын

I've recently just bought one of these and I have to say the lack of I/O isn't an issue at all for me. Most people aren't going to need more than what is offered. I've been having a good time using it as my general use laptop.

@jeffriart Жыл бұрын

I get the Windows modern standby issue, I experienced it a couple of times with my Surface Go 2. But it's been a year since I upgraded to Surface Laptop Studio, and I have never had a single instance of the issue. The laptop is always in sleep by closing the lid and I hardly lose any battery throughout the day. I think a deep dive and finding how/why it happens will be great.

@LittleWhole Жыл бұрын

Damn, I had the Modern Standby issue with my Surface Pro 5 and it was annoying enough to get me to also upgrade to a Surface Laptop Studio. Unfortunately, my SLS does the same thing. Welp, it is what it is.

@gfcwfzkm Жыл бұрын

Lovely build quality. Still using my first gen surface book 1 daily. Although the CPU is becoming an issue, it is doing shockingly well

@coffeenexus9077 Жыл бұрын

The editors’ inclusion of memes in videos are always great. Seeing that dumb little emoticon in the corner of the screen made me laugh every time and I am so glad for it

@waaghals Жыл бұрын

Just to note: The MBP is only 1000/1600 when displaying HDR content. The Crab Rave-video is not HDR.... (If you want higher than 500 nits on the MBP during normal use you need a third party app).

@TheStopwatchGod Жыл бұрын

That's Vivid, and it costs money I think

@tang9538 Жыл бұрын

@@TheStopwatchGod Someone posted a free and open source alternative to that on the macbook subreddit some time back

@coder543 Жыл бұрын

They make this mistake on every single laptop video, because they always compare to the MBP display and then make this absurd claim. It's like they don't even read any of the comments.

@waaghals Жыл бұрын

@@TheStopwatchGod It does, and I think you can criticize Apple for not exposing increased brightness controls to the user, but there is no getting away from the fact that the screen can get MASSIVELY bright.

@Truesoldier000 Жыл бұрын

For my work laptop I have a surface book 3. I was wondering why hell the computer never went to sleep and instead decided to cook itself in my laptop bag and kill the battery. It's infuriating. Then I bought a XPS 15 for personal use only to find out it does the same thing. I thought clearly the problem is me and I'm somehow not putting my computer to sleep properly. Now after you mentioning this modern standby "feature" I've finally found out i'm not alone!! please make a video on this!!

@rolanie3727 Жыл бұрын

Put it in hibernate instead to keep it from killing itself

@CaptainCrunch823 Жыл бұрын

Try to change settings to hybernate on lid close.

@lekhakaananta5864 Жыл бұрын

To the editor, who may want to learn a fun fact: At 12:52 the dialogue is "Watt-hours" but the on screen text says "Watt per hour". "Watt-hours" is the correct one. They're not the same units lol, watt-hours is (watt * hour), while watt-per-hour is (watt / hour). Watt-hours is actually a unit of energy that is time-independent, the time dimension in "hour" is canceled by the per-time dimension in "watt". The reason they use watt-hours instead of joules is because they think people are more familiar with watts and hours. Watt-hours and Joules are dimensionally the same.

@redl_m Жыл бұрын

Short Circuit edits are the best, love it.

@hsk797 Жыл бұрын

Give your editor a raise 👌👍

@Deathsead747 Жыл бұрын

tbh The Surface Laptop 4 has one of the best laptop keyboards, they feel even better than the M1 MacBook Air. Not sure what Alex was on about, maybe perhaps in comparison to the Surface Laptop 5.

@lovehatecomments Жыл бұрын

At this point I tune in to SC videos hosted by Alex just to hear him rage about Windows Standby. Love it.

@LiveType Жыл бұрын

If you're having trouble with windows standby you can configure it to be way more aggressive. I think this forces s3, but I don't quite remember. I remember having trouble with one of my old 13in laptops and boy oh boy was it annoying. Configured it to NEVER wake up from sleep unless opened or a keypress and welp, never had issues again. Why is this not the default behavior? I have no idea. But maybe that was a separate issue from what you're having. You may be having the fabled driver issues with the s1 sleep state. Actually fixing that requires hardware/firmware changes from what I understand. Maybe you can force a lower state like s3? S3 isn't the "instant resume" like s1 is though. However, I honestly have no idea because my portable machines are all macbooks since 2020 due to the insane battery life they offer.

@Captainflake99 Жыл бұрын

I’m fairly certain the box you got for the 15 is what they send to businesses/ suppliers as they don’t care about the packaging. The 13” box is more for consumers so it has to look nice on the shelf

@linnoff Жыл бұрын

I'd been holding off on a new laptop this whole year, waiting to see what the Surface 5 would bring. Turns out, new intel only versions at higher prices with nothing else different. I ended up spending 50% less to get a comparable Framework, and while I've only had it about a week, I'm very happy with it.

@stephenkelly8312 Жыл бұрын

The editing when the beat dropped in crab rave was perfection. Kudos!

@Cracky003 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I imagine these are fine for gaming. When my switch was getting warrantied I installed steam on my 3rd gen Ryzen 3 laptop. I was amazed, it runs virtually anything indie to circa 2019 AAA without any problems. Granted I have no problem targeting 30 FPS for demanding open world titles. 4K on pixel art titles makes up for it.

@besweeeet2 Жыл бұрын

I'd consider a Surface Laptop when it gets P series (or Ryzen 6000 U series) CPU *and* a haptic trackpad. Oh, and maybe when they'll use up the internal space on the 15" model for bigger heatsinks and batteries.

@filedotjar Жыл бұрын

true. wish there was more competition around this price point (and lower bc laptops should not all be at least a thousand dollars) in windows laptops bc the m1 macbook air for all its macos and arm caveats is 2 years old by now and still feels more capable than some of the current windows laptop offerings.

@besweeeet2 Жыл бұрын

@@filedotjar There's plenty of competition (at Costco).

@manavjeetsingh1562 Жыл бұрын

Only the people who have experience windows modern standby can understand his pain.

@ame7165 Жыл бұрын

the max peak brightness in apple products is only hit when in direct sunlight. there's the max you can set with the slider (which is already eye-searing and among the brightest), and then there's the ambient light sensor detecting direct sunlight, where it makes it go quite a bit brighter to make it actually usable outside. likely drains the battery quickly but that's what you gotta do if you want to use a glossy laptop outside on a sunny day lol

@abuashsamah4843 Жыл бұрын

I'm stuck between this and the XPS for school Right now the strongest pros are the IOs (although limited), Keyboard and Price I'm a Media student and the screen of the XPS is the biggest pull for me. Those Bezels is the strongest reason why I chose the XPS over the Surface

@VuLamDang Жыл бұрын

At this rate why not get Framework, they have about the same price, same performance and plus you can actually fix it yourself with standard parts

@VuLamDang Жыл бұрын

I took that back, Framework have BETTER performance, so there we go...

@SpidermanandJeny Жыл бұрын

So what's the most demanding thing you can do on this device with TB4? Any unexpected limitations?

@ghost-user559 Жыл бұрын

Jump roping with it is not advised

@loudryka Жыл бұрын

Did you turn on enhanced audio on the surface? Makes. Huge difference

@xeniamorph Жыл бұрын

great job with the editing, v2FINALFINAL

@irnp6125 Жыл бұрын

Surface Pad and Surface Laptop (I had the 4th gen laptop) which were known for battery swelling. Any word on if that is still a persistent problem? (it's honestly the reason I gave up on the Surface Lineup altogether. My brother's screen popped of the Surface due to battery swelling. The keyboard on my laptop developed a huge swelling). Both devices were working perfectly except for the battery swelling that necessitated device replacement.

@Platinum_Squid Жыл бұрын

What is a surface pad?

@zarathoestranl Жыл бұрын

I have the Surface Laptop 3 and I have disabled the sleep setting when the lid is closed to Hibernate which saves a lot of battery and the startup is maybe a few seconds longer. Also I hope they fixed it in this version, but the glass of my screen broke and got replaced twice, the second time they installed a thicker glass screen and left more space between the keyboard and screen.

@GameTL Жыл бұрын

So for the Peak brightness, 1600 nits on the Macbook Pro is only achieved when displaying HDR content, this requires a software trigger to allow the display to output above 400 nits. There's an app called Vivid that will trigger HDR brightness on SDR content. - This doesn't damage the display as Vivid uses Apple Official HDR SDK - The color remains accurate - full control of up to 1000nits sustain.

@Dev-dq9ce Жыл бұрын

The editor had so much fun editing this

@kiri101 Жыл бұрын

Giving the charger a secondary use so it doesn't feel like you're carrying so much dead weight is honestly a pretty cool touch.

@a120068020 Жыл бұрын

I just purchased the i7 / 16gb / 512gb black 15 inch surface laptop for my wife. That did come in the fancy packaging. So far very impressed. I may consider a Surface for myself when my latest ThinkPad needs replacing.

@LoveMakeShareTV Жыл бұрын

Microsoft and specifically Surface keyboards are, no joke, some of the best on the market. I'm still using the Type Cover 4 as my personal daily driver and the Designer Bluetooth Compact Keyboard for work. They are joys to type on, and I'm talking like several thousand words at a stretch. They hold up so good, too - the Type Cover is now like 7 years old and has only just started to wear.

@jajssblue Жыл бұрын

The editing is delightful

@maelonais Жыл бұрын

man, imagine a gaming laptop with such a design and build quality with 13 inch display. god, I would buy it immediately!

@The8blackwidow8 Жыл бұрын

damn, why can't there be a normal powerful laptop with touchscreen and pen support?

@iris4547 Жыл бұрын

i have the laptop 3 and dont have any major complaints with it apart from the lack of i/o and the battery life has dropped a lot since it was brand new (my phone is of similar age and its battery is nearly as good now as it was new). id like to see them do something more with the surface laptop. dont care about bezels or changing the look of it, thats all fine the way it is. give us more i/o without the need for adapters and give us a 120hz screen. the old 9th gen i5 in my laptop 3 still does everything youd expect a 13" laptop to do.

@Janky07 11 ай бұрын

Im glad the 5 came out, cause i can get basically the same laptop (surface 4) heavily discounted now

@t.r.2283 Жыл бұрын

I always look the tests up. Than I go to the store and well I always end up with a ThinkPad. No matter how hard dell or whatever gets promoted. So I am looking forward to test that. But I doubt it.

@nz2005 Жыл бұрын

12:53 Oof, 45.8W per Hour != 48Wh please fix this asap!

@EccentricVamp Жыл бұрын

19 seconds in and I can already tell the edit on this one is perfection

@itsferm28 Жыл бұрын

Man, this video made me miss my Surface Laptop 2. I replaced it with a Flow X13 and the built quality feels much better on the Surface. I really loved that laptop but performance wasn't that good. Seems that with this version you could play a bit, which wasn't possible at all on the Surface 2 I had.

@peat381low8 Жыл бұрын

Ah yes. A great laptop to go to town on the windows registry. And who can forget DLL? Amazing software.

@aboutlastnightt Жыл бұрын

The surface line is so far behind on everything and it sucks that nobody calls them out on this I/O Display Power Battery

@dannylol6967 Жыл бұрын

Kinda true, really hate premium windows laptops. If you have the money buy a m1 air, if not there are great 500$ Ryzen laptops

@aboutlastnightt Жыл бұрын

@@dannylol6967 yeah right. I wish LTT wasn’t so biased, they never complained when the xps got its last redesign and took away all the ports. Linus doesn’t even know how to properly use an iPhone, and then they put out review videos like what?

@alystair Жыл бұрын

Editor: something's up with the grading in this video, the laptop on the left at 5:07 shows it best... maybe an export issue? Either way contents are good :D

@LA-MJ Жыл бұрын

My frame.work with the new hinge and cover is just fine, thanks

@Pib31995 Жыл бұрын

3.5 inch headphone jack would be yuuuuge!

@PerplexedPhoton Жыл бұрын

Even the larger headphone ports are only 1/4" lol

@danieldougan269 Жыл бұрын

I think Microsoft could have made this more like a Lenovo Yoga for a different kind of 2-in-1 approach without compromising it as a laptop. At this point, why not add a 360° hinge?

@travelwell6049 2 ай бұрын

I find the charger heats up a worrisome amount. But makes a good hand-warmer during the British winter.

@mantenbrink Жыл бұрын

the editing on this one was really good

@cherrypepsi2815 Жыл бұрын

The irony of buying a MacBook because you're angry you can't repair your surface

@mdukasa Жыл бұрын

Apple's charging port: "Magsafe" Microsoft's charging port: "Proprietary BS"

@marcel151 Жыл бұрын

So you're telling us Magsafe isn't proprietary? I got news for you.

@mdukasa Жыл бұрын

@@marcel151 i was being sarcastic

@LarryJL Жыл бұрын

My Surface Book 2 from like 5 years ago works fine with USB-C doc and charging. 🤔 Not sure if it's thunderbolt, but it can be used for charging and easy monitor use.

@weaponx26 Жыл бұрын

I just got two of the 13 and a go3 for testing at work my go to test was playing 7 days to die it was about 28 frames I wanted an amd chip instantly. Microsoft said maybe 6th gen as a business machine Its solid I would echo Alex's review but my pet peeve is there are two keyboard options a standard plastic and a felt like palm rest . I can see the felt one being covered in coffee stains

@m_abilash Жыл бұрын

Intel chips are the battery killer and deal breaker for these Surface laptops. I hope / wish in a few years MSFT starts building custom ARM chips like AAPL and ditch Intel chips.

@hishnash Жыл бұрын

MS do not have the single minded vision or willingness to commit to such a transition. Apple is one of the few companies that is willing to work on ideas for 10+ years internal spending billions before shipping them. MS have attempted arm multiple times but they never wait until they are ready they always get pushed by the C-leves to ships before its ready since they cant justify having a 10+ year project without any return on investment.

@hishnash Жыл бұрын

@Goat they could build silicon but that would require a massive investment for many many years before selling anything and MS is not willing to put that amount of R&D into a single project

@hishnash Жыл бұрын

@Goat these days they are premeraly a services/hosting company and that is the direction they want to go in but I get your point any HW they design themselves will be exclusive to Azure and not sold to consumers as HW you put in azure you can charge for hourly so has much more $$$ to be made.

@zimbu_ Жыл бұрын

Seems kinda weird that it still comes with a 720p webcam when even the Surface Go tablets have 1080p. I like that it still has the USB-A after Surface Pro and Surface Laptop Studio were USB-C only. Still kinda feeling like they need to figure out if they want to push touch screen Windows laptops to professionals or compete with Apple on the "sleek looks, minimal I/O" front, seems like trying to do both is hard and might make products harder to sell.

@hassanmoosa9986 6 ай бұрын

Is the keyboard flex better because you have the metal top? I would choose alcantara everytime over metal. I've been using the surface laptop 2 for almost 5 YEARS and its only started failing this year, best purchase ever. I love the keyboard because of the alcantara handrest and the smooth edge but noticed that your review of laptop 4 said its got too much flex. Is it a noticeable difference and does 5 make it better? (I dont really care that much about thunderbolt, the keyboard is the most important)