It is annoying.

Respect

I'm a merchant marine thanks to the destroyer men that did the best they could and more to help get the supplies across the pond

@@beedalton9675 My father in law told me that they were not allowed to stop if a merchant ship got hit. They would however throw survival supplies overboard for them. FLY NAVY!!!

Happy Navy Birthday. Spy Navy.

My father served on one of the Victory ships as part of a gunnery crew. The navy men who were part of the gunners on the merchant ships were called the Armed Guard. His ship was attacked by a German bomber and was wounded in the process. He was unloaded at a port at the northern tip of Scotland unconscious. He woke up in a civilian hospital and the ship continued on to it's port. I could never get him to say if the ship was headed for Murmansk or Archangel in Russia. The north Atlantic crossing was rough but the Murmansk run was just as deadly because the ships were within range of German bombers based in Norway.

thanks to your dad these were the greatest generation

The weather is what really stayed with me on this film. I enjoyed it 😊

Today's generation would be crying in for their safe space, calling the bad U-boat people Nazis, to which they would reply "danke!" before torpedoing them to death.

isnt that just passive sonar?

Bravo Zulu Sir.⚓

@@dealopportunities No

The missiles of that time were several stories high, no way to fit that on a U-Boat :D

@@mathiaswittinger2808 Agreed, but Napoleon had "missiles" in the 1800s, mostly as terror weapons, not accurate / directed.

@@fsoiberg Just Congreve rockets! Missile only with electronic AI.

I think this channel writes the narration through ChatGPT or AI.

@@isaned Excellent Observation, "The things that pass for knowledge I can't understand..." - Reelin' In The Years by Steely Dan

We learn more by watching ''The Enemy Below''. No Robert Mitchum by a galactic stretch that Tm Hnks.

fuckn right

Also, missiles in ww2? I mean they did exist but they were not in u-boats!

@@Vincent98987 tom hanks' fantasies.

The Germans called them "Bata Bombe" translated as Bath Bomb... Depth Charge or Ash Can is what the Americans called them...

Actually general algorithm of the Enigma was known from even before the war because polish mathematicians have created a way to decode it. It was very inefficient though and still steps had to be taken to perfect it. Properly encoded Enigma messages would be still unreeadable, but Germans often were getting lazy and didn't change the key coded in their machines while sending messages - in which case what polish mathematicians discovered and the Brits then perfected was sufficient to decode such message.

@@ripLunarBirdCLH Here's what: Even though the Allies could decipher the Enigma they also decided not to reveal that by making sure most convoys actually weren't re-routed to avoid the positions the German submarines were known to be at. Some carrying important cargo were re-routed to avoid the subs while others were sent to their usual routes with a warning that German subs *were* in a particular area. So while the convoys were sent straight into the path of the submarines the crews of the ship at least knew when to be prepared to be torpedoed at any moment. Allied anti-submarine aircraft were given the position of the German submarines on occasion to deal a "serious blow" but mostly not. If the Allied aircraft somehow were locating the German subs a bit too often on the vast Atlantic the Germans would get suspicious Enigma had been broken. Fact is some captains of the subs *were* getting suspicious and reported that it was "likely" the Allies could read Enigma. Fortunately the arrogance of the nazis meant this was roundly ignored.

U-505

I also questioned the narrator's use of use of the word "BOMB" and not "Depth Charge"

Chorus: rule Britannia!

His name is AI Guy. He loves "water bombs."

Or if you want to know what the Battle of the Atlantic was really like, read 'The Cruel Sea.'

A classic one of my all time favorites!

@@dovetonsturdee7033 Indeed, or watch the "Cruel Sea" movie followed by the full series of "Das Boot" in the original German with subtitles. Both far superior to the Computer Generated, Tom Hanks, tosh.

@@sandrafreeman502 Das Boot. Loved that one as well

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Forester's book is based on a Mahan class destroyer, but of course none now exist.

Geez it's a Movie Not a History Documentary 🙄🙄

@@Nobody0512 It's not that hard to do it right.

Agreed. These mechanical computer voices seem to always never get things right, historically. @@oceanmariner

@@oceanmariner They used the museum ships for filming and as models. Closest thing they had to early WW2 Cans was a Fletcher in NOLA and a Flower Corvette in Canada Doubt a Sumner or Gearing would have pulled off a early war DD. And the Fletchers were only beginning to roll out 3 months or so after the movies date. I rode Sumners and Gearings on the Gunline back in the day. We would pull repair parts off of laid up Fletchers, and I rode a couple of Korean and Taiwan Fletchers on "exchange" cruises. I doubt a realistic movie of some ships being torpedoed on the horizon, followed by Twidgets listening to passive for three hours would have drawn much ticket sales.

Correct. As soon as the tower hatch was clear of the water the watch officer would be through it. Just watch Das Boot, ffs not the series though.

@@davidharris733 Avoid the Das Boot TV series like the plague. For accuracy and credibility, it actually challenged the glory that was U571.

…or more likely China, but yes, spot on

@@hertzair1186 Much better👍

The "water bomb" dropped by the plane would be called a depth bomb, a depth charge with the tail fins of a bomb. Clever name huh? 😁

Channels like this are worried about one thing only, the monthly cheque from adsense

@@shoominati23 Bingo!

The top "Dark Seas" award of an Ashcan full of garbage with Seaweed cluster for "infamous comments in the face of the enemy.";)

U boats Germans didn’t actually have many actual subs till late war. They used snorkels. But they were called u boats not “subs”.

There are two types of watercraft: 1. Submarines 2. Targets

Exactly. Their mission was not open warfare, but to keep the supplies from reaching Europe. Although they did have the advantage of stealth, they were tin cans and DDs were VERY hard to hit with the torpedoes of that time, so they went after the slow-moving, barely armed transport ships. The U-boats only engaged if they were being hunted by the DDs, and even then tried to get away rather than try to destroy the DD, because once they were damaged, they either sank or had to surface which meant they only had the deck gun vs. the DDs 4 5" guns plus boffors and .50cal.

Expensive? Do you not know how many Wolf Packs were out there? I don’t think they’re concerned with expense lol meanwhile if the escort is providing active threat to the submarine they have to neutralize it

@@brysonkuervers2570 I stand by my answer. Depending on what year in the war it was, the numbers of UBoats/wolf packs varied. Escorts are always a threat to UBoats. Again the primary mission of the Atlantic UBoats was to sink cargo ships. Escorts are difficult targets being small, fast and maneuverable.

@@d53101 Don't listen to the idiot above. You're bang on and the whole movie is a farce when it comes to U-Boot tactics. I'd add that they was never enough U-Boots in the Atlantic to achieve what they were set out to do. From 42 on the war was basically over for the Kriegsmarine anyway.

Not "only", as they sank battleships, cruisers, even aircraft carriers throughout the war...but their main goals were the freighters, especially the tankers.

Thank you, i started to think i was alone with my opinion.

When Superman and Captain America arrived the movie became more realistic

No scrambled eggs (or crossed fishbones as we say in our navy) for Lt-Cmdrs. Beginning only with Commanders. But then what do you expect with Tm Hnks ?

22 years says you are correct.

Much respect and I know iit's annoying. But it's a drama of a novel by a Brit (C S Forrester). It's not a re-enactmant A sub ffires ONE TORPEDFOAAT A FAST NANOEVERING Destroyrt? tthey attavk iin daylightt? Rhey radio thritr target to announce the untent to sink her and on, and on. If it gives a kid somewherre some kind of a clue it has done it's job, stil rhey ccouklld have got fhe hats right.

@@brucebartup6161 I know I know. But they probably got the wardrobe at a truck stop. A little attention to detail would be nice. Like saving Private Ryan. But...a different producer. Oh well.

In the nobel The Good Sheperd by Forester Krause was in fact Cmmoddore. But maybte the term , Commloldore to a mosern day uS audience miight ne confusing? mystery solved?

That's hollyweird for you!

@@alfredneuman6488 based on real events , well as real as Hollyweird could revise history , without being sued by historians that is !!!!!

[Bob McRae] Your kidding? They actually wrote that into the script?

The Good Shepherd was written by C S Forester as propaganda for the USN the book was ok the film cr*p history all wrong

@@terrybarrett2368 I am assuming then, that this movie was based on that book?

Then how can you justify using the decommissioned 4 pippers with the flush deck? They Were the lend lease destroyers.

@@philgiglio7922 They were expendable?

[Darcy Hildebrand] Sorry but not so!! To suggest the Pacific was a bathtub compared to the North Atlantic is false. The Fletcher's were sent to the Pacific because that is where they were needed most.

@@philgiglio7922 They weren’t well suited either but is what they had.

@@brgilbert2 Incorrect. If you don’t believe me then I suggest you read up on it. Nowhere were destroyers needed more than in the North Atlantic convoys. It wasn’t until Spring of 43 that they could largely negate the U-boat threat and feel some confidence they could get get the convoys across with reasonable loss rates. The Pacific Ocean is called ‘Pacific’ for a reason. It is not the North Atlantic.

submarines today have missiles, but back then they didn't

Brit’s didn’t do shit but beg for aid. Who are you kidding here

@@Simon_S22 Really get a grip on reality and history but if not then you have your own naive opinion. peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧

Well an Enigma machine had already been in hand before 1940 thanks to Polish intelligence however it was the type that was being used by the Wehrmacht not the navy and as the Germans changed the code everyday what the Brits needed was the code book and by chance they achieved to get it from a crippled u boat before the German crew destroying it ,then they had the chance of decoding the german code even if the Germans had started using 4 rotor types enigma code machine.This was the turning point in the Atlantic War.German Kriegsmarine HQ only got suspicious about being decoded only in late 1943 but by that time the U Boat flotilla had lost the initiative.

@@emrahbulut1458 Thank you for your reply I was aware of the polish Enigma machine. Thank you for the details I wasn't aware of all the information you provided many thanks 👍 peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧

@@Simon_S22 808 U-boats were destroyed during the Battle of the Atlantic. Of these, 84 were destroyed by bombing is shipyards late in the war. Of the remaining 724, 257.5 were destroyed by the Royal & Royal Canadian Navies, and 196 by RAF Coastal Command. The US Navy sank 48.5, the USAAF 12, and US Naval Aircraft 74. Oh, and the Royal Navy planned and largely executed almost every assault landing in the west. When you grow up and learn to read properly, you might consider buying a proper history book.

Actually a corvette. Slightly smaller than a frigate. The most common Canadian convoy escort of the war. That’s what the Flower class were. A corvette, both Canadian or English was 205 feet long. Carried one 3 inch gun in the bow, one 40mm on the stern and a few 50cal and 303 cal machine guns. And depth charges. Lots and lots of depth charges. German subs feared the corvette more than the larger destroyer because the corvette was small and highly manoeuvrable and could stay right on top of a sub, unlike a destroyer which made “runs” across the subs estimated position. The corvette was outgunned by a surfaced sub but was so shallow of draft that a torpedo might pass right under. The subs 88 or 105mm deck gun was lethal as was to 20mm flack gun. The corvettes 3 inch and 40mm might sink a sub with a direct hit to the tower while the sub had 205 feet of ship to shoot at, any direct hit usually going into some critical system. Thus the corvette fought best against a submerged sub. Just so you know.

@@MrJento oh yea, my bad

@@waterz2415 Nope. Your all good. Carry on.

You are correct s flower class corvette

@@MrJento Flower class corvettes carried a 4 inch gun forward

I like 'water bombs'.

And what about those underwater "soldiers."?

It never ceases to amaze me at lame attempts these people go to trying to explain something they have no idea about! So stupid! They need to do their research first!

Also its dove, not dived

Correct about there not having been any DD-548. It would have been a Fletcher class destroyer, but along with DD-549, it was canceled. No idea why.

Thank you 👍

@@Fans_9 np man :)

Agreed. That was very confusing. When it said the German "ship" I thought an actual German ship had joined the battle. Then I realized it meant the German sub. Along with "water bombs" and "anti submarine bombs" WTF??? The terminology is screwed up. This is not a very good vid.

Those tin cans are also boats.

Sailing the open sea like a "Dark Seas," production, accuracy be damned.;)

As we all know, the victors write the history, even if fake!

Lord knows what the creator of Hornblower would have made of the movie.

I agree. A waterbomb is a waterfilled balloon

Grey wolf contacting the hound is a scene in the movie, don't know why HW didn't catch that history buff but it made the cut, it's a movie recap not yarnhub

Uhm, this is a Hollywood production, based on a novel, I believe. It doesn't claim that it's historically correct 100%. Can you imagine how boring the plot of this movie eould have been without any of the drama that the producers wrote into the script?

Also, at 5:20.. German U-boats were manned by sailors.. NOT soldiers. I don't know who wrote the narration for this but he needs to be fired.

Accually some german subs did have the equipment to do this as a fear tactitc

No ''The Enemy Below'' this one.

Oh yes, that sonar description is a load of bollocks.

As a former submarine Sonarman I couldn't help but cringe when the narrator butchered the explanation of how sonar worked.

that´s a VERY good one!

no its an Apple TV movie

@@skyclaw36 Which, I assume, means that it sank without trace?

It is especially ridiculous since this movie is set in February 1942, when in reality no major convoy battles were happening because the Germans were too busy decimating American merchant shipping off the American east coast, which they could only do because the Americans were completely unprepared and had willfully ignored British naval intelligence and refused to follow British advice on anti submarine warfare.

This is only a 13min video that shows a very small part of the war. Maybe you should watch the ww2 documentary. I think you have something personal against America.

@@excite236, the British have always felt that they alone won the war, that America just wasn't much help even though without American help the Brits would be speaking fluent German now!

Evan Penny, sure, the British were so great at winning the war all by themselves...just ask the men of convoy PQ-17 how THEY feel about the British...oh, but then only 11 of the 35 merchantmen that started the trip survived the slaughter caused by the British Admiralty crapping their pants over the possibility that the German mega-battleship, Tirpitz, MIGHT be moving and pulling ALL of the escorts away from the convoy. Yeah, the mighty British won the war all by themselves, right? Maybe the Americans should have stayed out of it and let the Germans HAVE Britain!

Sorry Richard Richard. Not saying that at all.

You realize you are nitpicking? What are they supposed to film from 80 years later?

@@WALTERBROADDUS a something trully history. There is not a four chimney destroyer ina museum to make a real history?

@@BELISARIO2011 there were thousands of ships in World War 2. Can't keep and save them all? Speaking of museum ships? I really do one of these days need to get over and visit my local ones.

@@WALTERBROADDUS I doubt if there were THOUSANDS. Hundreds were more real at least. But in this case it needs ONE.

@@BELISARIO2011 can't make up what's not there anymore? It's like complaining about doing a war movie about Germans and there no German tanks around? Is only like one tiger left that runs. I'm just happy someone did film about the Atlantic war. It's kind of an overlooked topic.

Eh! Your right! A Flower class corvette. Foot for foot the most deadly sub chaser in the war...as long as they kept the sub down. On the surface the sub out gunned the corvette with its deck and flack gun. Submerged the small corvette could sit on top and twist and turn with the sub until a depth charge ended the game. Good on you Tommy Canuck.

They got the CGI using a Canadian Museum Ship. .

@@BobSmith-dk8nw Close. The greyhound scenes were shot on the museum ship USS Kidd, a Fletcher class. It’s in the Carolinas as a museum. The Flower Class Corvette, “Dickey” is based upon the HMCS Dodge which is a museum ship, not sure where in Canada. The Kidd was the only ship to be used in the filming. In the book the British destroyer “Harry” and polish destroyer Viktor “eagle” were slightly smaller than Kidd. The CGI in the movie shows three destroyers all identical to the Kidd and a corvette. From stock photographs.

@@MrJento I was just talking about the _Dodge_ (AKA Dickey) in reply to the comment about there being a Canadian vessel in the movie. CGI of the ship was done with _HMCS Sackville_ located at Halifax, Nova Scotia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Sackville_(K181) The _Kidd_ is in Baton Rouge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Kidd_(DD-661) Pre-production photography was done at sea on board the modern day frigate, _HMCS Montreal_ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Montr%C3%A9al_(FFH_336) Yes. Apparently the other escorts were a Tribal Class Destroyer and the Polish Grom Class Destroyer. Which is actually a fairly strong escort for the day. Three Destroyers and one Corvette. I'd have expected it to be the other way around. I've not seen the movie and if it stays on Apple - won't. I read the book over 50 years ago. I should probably try and buy a copy off the Internet ... but ... I've done that a lot since I figured out I could do it and am currently awash in books. These older books are mixed in with some of the newer ones as well ... and ... I just bought a 1935 edition of a Manual on using the '03 Springfield ... which I don't have one of ... at least ... not yet ... One thing I'd like to find would be a complete set of Forester's Hornblower series ... but I can see it would cost me a good bit ... www.amazon.com/dp/B075VFQCTM?searchxofy=true&binding=kindle_edition&ref_=dbs_s_aps_series_rwt_tkin&qid=1648857195&sr=8-19 If only I were rich ... .

@@BobSmith-dk8nw I think we must be brothers from different mothers. I too read just about every Forrester novel about 50 years ago. Some of the details get blurry now. I too admired the 1903 Springfield. Shot one for years in hi-power. Then I acquired two M1’s and in a moment of weakness sold the 1903. Then I gave my brother Dads 1903A1. I like to read. I donate my excess books to the local library. Check them out a time or two to re-read. Then when the library has a surplus sale I buy them back, read them, then donate to the library. Such is amusement in retirement. Fox out.

It's an Over-Marine!

Distance from tracking ship not hight up over the water

I wouldn't insult 3rd graders like that !!!

Those who want to know what the Battle of the Atlantic was really like should read 'The Cruel Sea; by Nicholas Monsarrat.

They do not attack destroyers but when they attack merchant ships they do that at night and from the surface. So half of the movie makes sense:)

Looked great anyway, loved watching those sumbees get blown out of the water. 4 5 inchers and 2 Bofors Oh boy.

The sub is not nuclear, so it can only operate underwater so long as the batteries held out...1940's batteries, which has to be recharged by the diesel engine, which could not run underwater, so they HAD TO SURFACE at some point because they would run out of power and die or they had to come up high enough to vent the exhaust from their diesel engine, so yeah, at some point, especially during long periods of trying to avoid escorts trying to kill them, they had no choice but to surface and at that point, they either man the gun and try to survive or just get destroyed.

"stupid Nazi rule No1 in Hollywood!