The Battle of Mairy, Lorraine - Patton vs. Bäke | Tank Battles of WW2

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The AceDestroyer

The AceDestroyer

7 ай бұрын

On 8 September 1944, the highly successful Panzer commander Oberst Dr. Bäke was embroiled in heavy combat with the American 90th Infantry Division of Patton’s Third Army. Bäke’s newly established Panzer-Brigade 106 had been given the task of launching a pre-emptive attack on the Americans before Patton could launch a large-scale attack towards the German border. The Panther’s under Bäke’s command, however, would encounter the Sherman tanks of the 712th Tank Battalion. What followed was a very costly battle near the village of Mairy, in the Lorraine region in France.
Sources:
Batailles & Blindés. (2022). La Bataille de Mairy. Batailles & Blindés, 110.
Thomas, C. M., Cole, H. M., MacDonald, C. B., & Mathews, S. T. (1954). The Lorraine campaign. The Mississippi Valley historical review, 41(1), 170. doi.org/10.2307/1898201
Warfare History Network. (2022, 18 november). The “Tough ‘Ombres” of 90th ID stand tall at Mairy - Warfare History Network. warfarehistorynetwork.com/art...

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@TheAceDestroyer
@TheAceDestroyer 7 ай бұрын
Happy New Year everyone! The classic 'Tank Battles of WW2' series is back in a slightly new rendition. I hope you'll enjoy!
@dr.killshot4949
@dr.killshot4949 7 ай бұрын
Is there any chance that the Battle of Maciejow video will come back up? It’s one of my favorites of your brilliant videos. Keep up the good work and happy New Year!
@kerrydennison7947
@kerrydennison7947 7 ай бұрын
It is so good to see you and your channel back up and running,❤❤❤ we love your history lessons here in America. Sadly if you look at history the 4th armored division has always been downplayed by the 2nd and 3rd armored divisions. How about do a couple episodes on American tank aces. Lieutenant Colonel Clayton Abrams and Captain Jimmy Leach of the 8th and 37th tank battalion,s Captain Jimmy Leach is probably the most unassuming and lesser known of the US tank aces. And how about Sergeant pool,the real war daddy... People say the movie fury was based on Sergeant pools career with the 3rd armored division. Are firmly believe if they had had the m-26 available in Europe in June 1944 that the war would have been shortened for six to eight months. But as normal political back bite and fighting between the ordinance and armor Branch delay the release of this fine instrument of warfare.if you look at post war u s tank research and development they are all up to the current US main battle tank the Abrams are all based on the old M-26,the M-46 M-47 and the M-60 are all M-26 upgrades.
@paularinaga1576
@paularinaga1576 7 ай бұрын
Ace, could you answer @timmievd question below? I was wondering the same thing. Why did the CO leave a gap between the 358 and 359 and put his CP in it? They were almost overrun.
@TheAceDestroyer
@TheAceDestroyer 7 ай бұрын
I believe they also had not suspected an Armoured push to come up in such strong force. The Division had advanced towards their positions with relative ease, encircling up to battalion-level forces. The idea was to resume the advance the following day, and having a divisional command post ready near the front line would facilitate an advance as the CP could just stay where it was situated without being too distant from the Regiments it was commanding. It was a gamble which almost went horribly wrong.
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 6 ай бұрын
I think there was a general underestimation of German resolve as the war neared German soil. After Falaise the advance across France was so rapid with virtually no organized German resistance that the Allies felt the enemy was on its last legs. Market/Garden is about to fail and the Americans are about to hit heavy resistance at Aachen and the Hurtgenwald but as of this time the 3rd Army had had things their way.
@kenbaumann597
@kenbaumann597 7 ай бұрын
Another work of excellence Ace ! ! My Dad was no longer being shot at by this point of the war. Dad was captured near Falaise and, by this point, was in a POW camp south of London. Before they were captured hiding out in a barn with 50 other men, they would periodically look outside and Dad said they never looked outside and seen less than SEVEN American and British fighters and fighter bombers strafing everything that moved. Both sides nicknamed Falaise "the bone-mill" because there was dead EVERYTHING, soldiers, civilians and animals. Dad was transferred from 1 1/2 years in Russia to France after D-day and was so glad to see an end to the horrors he had lived through. Keep up your excellent work Ace👍
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 5 ай бұрын
A school friend's dad was a member of the Coldstream Guards, and because he was a despatch rider and had a motorbike he was sent into the Falaise gap soon after the shooting stopped. He must have seen the same scenes as your dad, and what he described to myself and my friend were exactly the same as your dad told you. I will have been around 14 at the time and was shocked by what he had seen, telling us he could have walked for miles by stepping on the corpses of men and animals. What is often not appreciated is that the film footage taken at the time does not show the worst of the destruction - the film crews couldn't get near it because the roads were totally blocked by wreckage.
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 7 ай бұрын
I suspect that the weak side armor of the Panther was vulnerable in the close terrain of the western theater. Another classic video from Ace❤
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 6 ай бұрын
No doubt.
@richardscales9560
@richardscales9560 6 ай бұрын
It's in the same ballpark as other medium tanks. I don't think any medium tanks side armour is going to stop a 75mm and definitely not at these relatively short ranges. I think the reputation for weakness only comes from the fact that russian anti-tank rifles using specialist ap rounds could penetrate at close range.
@oliverfuchs3925
@oliverfuchs3925 7 ай бұрын
Good that you are back online. I am looking forward to the second part of the Hürtgen Forrest Battle. Your first series about the southern part of the battle ( Vossenack, Schmidt) are brilliant. Sadly the northern part (Hürtgenwald, Kleinhau, Gey and Wehevalley) were often overlooked ever by american filmmakers.
@Markyellowcake
@Markyellowcake 6 ай бұрын
They have been waiting three years to find out what is going to happen next.
@mchrome3366
@mchrome3366 7 ай бұрын
So many battles from this war went under the radar of public awareness. Thanks for your work in bringing them back.
@thomaskositzki9424
@thomaskositzki9424 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I really like your detailed, well-presented and well-illustrated style! On the topic: German OKW "Hey let's attack with more or less a single Brigade into an entire Division, but we don't know that because our recon is non-existent. What could possibly go wrong???" The Germans were so convinced of their superiority that they often failed to recongnize that the US and Allies were leagues ahead of the Soviets in military expertise.
@thetankcommander3838
@thetankcommander3838 7 ай бұрын
ACE!!! Good to see you again, My Belgian Compadre!!! Happy New Year and keep up the magnificent work with the videos to come in the new year!!! 🎆🎊🎈 ❤❤❤❤
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 6 ай бұрын
Another concise summary this time of Patton’s 3rd Army. The map animations are so helpful in visualizing the maneuvering elements of the battle. Looking forward to upcoming episodes.
@arthurcrime
@arthurcrime 7 ай бұрын
Whenever I see a new Ace Destroyer video in my stream, I make a coffee, and sit down and enjoy the treat. Thank you for your excellent work. And best wishes for 2024.
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the interesting war history! Bäke was a dentist before and after the war. Reminds me of the film Marathon Man, "Is It Safe"?
@stephenhunt2806
@stephenhunt2806 6 ай бұрын
An excellent addition to your Tank Battles of WW2 series.
@clementaut7287
@clementaut7287 7 ай бұрын
Great video, I didn't know about this battle. Continue this good work !!!
@colinthehat
@colinthehat 7 ай бұрын
It's brilliant to see you doing these sorts of vids again. I love the detail but most of all it's your vocal delivery that is outstanding. Love the accent, sort of voice you could listen to for hrs, there is a lot of good vids out there I can't watch because I can't stand the vocal of the narration.
@dereksollows9783
@dereksollows9783 7 ай бұрын
It's great to have you back.
@MMSaabChannel
@MMSaabChannel 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great video! 😍 Happy New Year!
@StartledPancake
@StartledPancake 6 ай бұрын
Great presentation and a really detailed script. Such a shame to see all these battles in this beautiful region though!
@walkingwithgiants1
@walkingwithgiants1 7 ай бұрын
Your channel is excellent, your absolute quality posts are superb. Happy New Year.
@majorbloodnok6659
@majorbloodnok6659 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interesting video looking at an encounter I hadn't hear of.
@oldesertguy9616
@oldesertguy9616 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video, sir. So glad to have you back. Have a great 2024.
@davidarmstrong7549
@davidarmstrong7549 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video 😊
@damac5136
@damac5136 5 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@danielvanmol5655
@danielvanmol5655 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, you're one of the best you tube contributors on WW2! Correct story in correct context!
@michaelmorris2243
@michaelmorris2243 7 ай бұрын
I right, been waiting for your excellent work. Very good Great job. Thank you very much for your hard work. 🙋‍♂️🐈👍😊👌
@patrickmcglynn5383
@patrickmcglynn5383 6 ай бұрын
Welcome back ace! AI just can't compare, I had forgotten about correct pronunciation.
@juhopuhakka2351
@juhopuhakka2351 7 ай бұрын
Semper Fi brother!Semper Fi!
@ladyponfarr5479
@ladyponfarr5479 7 ай бұрын
Have a Great New Year Ace.
@robertcameron2808
@robertcameron2808 7 ай бұрын
You need hundreds of artillery for the counter offensive.
@MrDino1953
@MrDino1953 7 ай бұрын
I think the story would be easier to follow if you found a way to visually highlight locations or units at the same time you’re talking about them.
@picklerix6162
@picklerix6162 6 ай бұрын
Patton: “I smell Monty.”
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 Ай бұрын
Well seeing as Monty was leading the fight everywhere, all Patton could do was smell him from behind.
@doolittlegeorge
@doolittlegeorge 7 ай бұрын
No chance of developing into a larger attack even if a success this idea would be fleshed out in detail by the German High Command during what would become the Battle of Bastogne. It is odd though in every instance when an attack was prepared said attacks were therefore ordered on the part of Nazi 3rd Reich Germany and in their West. Preparing for such attacks was difficult enough but then to proceed with said attacks without proper artillery or air support would never have been considered a correct order by German Forces in 1940 or even 1939 so how that could possibly considered so as true late 1944 from the German pov makes no sense to me.
@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle
@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle 7 ай бұрын
0:19 Patton approaches near to Bastogne. The first time. 😂
@christianwandtke1068
@christianwandtke1068 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting. One has to realize that the Wehrmacht of 44 was no longer the Wehrmacht of 41. And again it shows that going into battle without conscientious reconnaissance is like playing the lottery. And then without artillery support. An irresponsible vabanque game.
@TimmieVD
@TimmieVD 7 ай бұрын
Good episode again. I just wondered why they left a gap beteen 358th regiment and 359th regiment? I checked the terrain, and it's mostly farm land, flat land with some rolling hills. This just feels like an invitation to the Germans to attack in this gap, but why would they put the divisional CP right behind this gap in the frontline?
@MrDino1953
@MrDino1953 7 ай бұрын
I am no military expert, but I was puzzled by the same questions. I can only think that the Americans had become over-confident.
@twoheart7813
@twoheart7813 7 ай бұрын
Patton supplies were also hampered by the failed Market Garden.
@johndawes9337
@johndawes9337 6 ай бұрын
not true
@twoheart7813
@twoheart7813 6 ай бұрын
💩 @@johndawes9337
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 6 ай бұрын
But he ran out of supplies, *2 weeks* before Market Garden even started?
@twoheart7813
@twoheart7813 6 ай бұрын
you are wrong@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 6 ай бұрын
@@twoheart7813 Nope
@luissotochile2507
@luissotochile2507 7 ай бұрын
Mucho bla bla y nada de media .
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