I think the true issue is that Christians truly have difficulties understanding the Trinity/Godhead, so they can’t explain it well. It is okay to use human analogy. Jesus did the same while explaining the parables. He used objects that humans are familiar with, so that we can gain understanding of the gospel. This is done throughout the Bible. Personally, I would use the same tool, such as, the different forms of water, however, I wouldn’t explain it as it TRANSFORM from one form of water/entity to another. I would present the three states of water at the same time but say the Father, The Son and Holy Spirit are one in character, nature, principles, and purpose, but each has different role in the plan of salvation. The three states of water are the same: chemically (nature of it/ substance are the same). They are not the same physically (play different roles). It is impossible for Him to do evil. Except when God (Jesus Christ) came in a form of man, then He was tempted in all points of evil, but chose to never sin, for our sake. When we read things in the Bible that occurred and appears to be unjust, we need to remember that we are not God and He can read hearts of men. He is and always a just God. I love how they explained that God was never alone and He is Love; it was enlightening. It explains the importance of fellowship with brethren and the purpose of marriage. Don’t forsake the assembly of the brethren. It is not good to be alone. It just makes me think of those who struggle with depression and low self esteem. How they think that no one is like them, so they isolate themselves become subjected to more of Satan’s tact/torture. I realize that he uses the same exact formula (tact) on everyone but you wouldn’t know bc you don’t want to talk to anyone or the thoughts appears to be so believable and reasonable.

@@beejones0509 1. I want chapter and verse that the Father is a person 2. I want chapter and verse that the Holy Spirit is a person 3. I want chapter and verse that Jesus is the second person of the godhead 4. I want chapter and verse that the Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the godhead 5. I want chapter and verse God is 3 persons 6. I want chapter and verse that His spirit is shared by 3 persons 7. Was the apostles disobedient for not bringing up Father and Holy Spirit in the baptism? 8. If God is our Father, why Stephen called him Lord Jesus in Acts 7:59? 9. If God is three persons, why Stephen responded only the 2nd person in Acts 7:59 10. In Mark 13:32 does the Holy Spirit is included for not knowing the day and hour of Christ's return? 11. How do the scriptures reveal to you that the Holy Spirit is lower rank than the Son of Man, if Jesus said if you blasphemy against the Holy Spirit you will not be forgiven but will be forgiven if it’s against the Son of Man? 12. Who is the Great Dragon, the Old Serpent, and the Devil?

If you want to believe what is told in scripture, then let go of man made philosophies and believe the words of Jesus. He said that The Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD John 17:3.

@@leahjames6870 Are you referring that to me?

Wow, I love the way you wrote this comment, "what He revealed about himself in scripture we must believe or embrace." It really is a relationship and intamcy with the Holy Spirit & relevant to how people struggle with relationships today, and may be why so many are struggling in relationships in general, now that I think about it. Trusting enough to let someone lead. Idk why, but the first thing this made me think of was a relationship & being intimate with the Holy Spirit, like in a union. Not in an inappropriate way, but in a way that allows trust and vulnerability.

Hey blessings to you! Give a read to a book called “Oneness” by David K. Bernard! It radically changed my life!

​@@gregmoore2875haven't read it yet but am interested

Okay this is me, I’m not alone 🙌🏽😅

@@gregmoore2875the oneness of God ? Is that what you’re referring to ? I ask because I looked it up and that’s what popped up

Eph 1:9 "Having made KNOW TO US the MYSTERY if his will" ( Greek 'mysteron' that which IS reavealed ) Thus Paul also said "God is not a GOD OF CONFUSION, but a God of peace". Its a total 'copout' to apply mystery' or 'confusion' to the 'trinity as a justification! its a FALSE doctrine along with all other confusing philosophies and notions of religion! The bible is clear & simple! There is but ONE GOD and Father of us all as Jesus Christ taught! "This means life eternal that they might know YOU THE ONLY TRUE GOD" ( John 17:3 part)

That’s awesome! I recommend you watch Transformation Church’s “The Upgrade” series. It’s all about the Holy Spirit!

Don't they live in ATL!?

@@micahsales2524 yep

Trinity belief is Sun (Baal, Nimrod) Worship! The Messiah was brought forth BY the Father in the Beginning, that is why He is the only BEGOTTEN Ban (Son)!

So if all three are distinct from one another, that makes them 3 gods, not one. The role/essence “explanation” makes no sense whatsoever. Bible Truth is not complicated. But trinitarians complicate it and make it worse for those searching for the Truth

took me clean out lol

Same here!🤣

VA has a very close dialect to Chicago..

Trinity belief is Sun (Baal, Nimrod) Worship! The Messiah was brought forth BY the Father in the Beginning, that is why He is the only BEGOTTEN Ban (Son)!

A mystery can never be understood. So how can you have faith in something or someone mysterious??

Satan answered you, not YAHWEH homie 😂.

1. I want chapter and verse that the Father is a person 2. I want chapter and verse that the Holy Spirit is a person 3. I want chapter and verse that Jesus is the second person of the godhead 4. I want chapter and verse that the Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the godhead 5. I want chapter and verse God is 3 persons 6. I want chapter and verse that His spirit is shared by 3 persons 7. Was the apostles disobedient for not bringing up Father and Holy Spirit in the baptism? 8. If God is our Father, why Stephen called him Lord Jesus in Acts 7:59? 9. If God is three persons, why Stephen responded only the 2nd person in Acts 7:59 10. In Mark 13:32 does the Holy Spirit is included for not knowing the day and hour of Christ's return? 11. How do the scriptures reveal to you that the Holy Spirit is lower rank than the Son of Man, if Jesus said if you blasphemy against the Holy Spirit you will not be forgiven but will be forgiven if it’s against the Son of Man? 12. Who is the Great Dragon, the Old Serpent, and the Devil?

No, it's a Satanic lie shawty.

Well said.

Don't listen again. Please don't ever look at this again.

What church do you go to? Husband and I have been looking for this.

@@Tishalocs I go to an apostolic church in Maryland. What state are you in?

@@janelle1150 we are in GA but if they have online we want to join in. Or refer us to one. We are in the metro area.

@@Tishalocs Cross Creek apostolic church! We do have online

This is true!

L loop 😊l 14:06 😊

Don't revisit it. It's Satanic teaching.

If you believe in eternal hell torment you do NOT believe in the God of love who is the God of Jesus

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Agreeee

I second thisss!!!

Agreed!!!

Agreed part 2 please

Same, I was so confused when they kept saying pentecostals believe in modalism. I’d guess the pentecostal churches they were in contact with believed in modalism, because the one I grew up in did not. My pastor actually preached against modalism.

@@ketsspace816 Yes. I figured that as well. I know for some in the Pentecostal faith that do very poor jobs of teaching Bible properly. So I’m sure some do believe in modalism.

Modern day Apostolics and some Oneness Pentecostals teach modalism some aware and unaware.

Me too! I am like what? No. God is 1 all at the same time.

No.

That shit is some dumb bs 😂.

@@MosesHanma What are you doing here? That’s weird

@@excellenceadigun9093 It's weird that you as a grown ass black man is talking like a black woman. See what happens when you watch too much of this stuff? 😭 You're Trinity teaching is false and is going to give you a one way ticket to the second death. You still have eternal life afterwards though so thank God for that.

The council of Nicaea solidified the trinity doctrine. But may I ask you a question. Jesus said that The Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD in John 17:3. Was he correct???

@@leahjames6870 I think you're specifying more than the text or Jesus did. "You are the only true God". Looking at the entire verse, it is clear that Jesus was not speaking in relation to the Father individually, but God. In addition, whenever the Bible says something that is or similar to "[YHWH] is the one true God", it is always in comparison to idols or false gods. Also, by saying that the Father is the only true God, Jesus is not denying His Divine nature. The Father IS the only true God. Just like the Son is, as well as the Spirit. They are of the same essence. However, the individuality or distinctions of the Trinity does erase the unity the persons have in terms of holiness, and attributes. The Bible says countlessly that "God is holy". That means the Father is holy. The Son is holy. The Spirit is holy. But does the fact that they're all holy means they're all the same so therefore cannot be unique or in other words holy? Of course not. Because while they are distinct, they are all one singular God. I hope you at least barely understand my point seeing as the Trinity is extremely difficult to grasp. It's inexplicable to many degrees.

@@ilovekene9697 The trinity is difficult to grasp because it was never meant to be. GOD is not the author of confusion and that doctrine is confusion. The trinity is not a teaching from Christ nor his apostles. Can you show me anywhere in the Bible where anyone believed such a thing??? Just one person. Christ’s divinity doesn’t mean he is GOD, unless other spiritual beings are God too🤔The Bible calls The Father GOD and Jesus called him the ONLY TRUE GOD. Jesus didn’t say “we” he said THEE, when speaking to The Father. The Father is ALWAYS called GOD, while Jesus is called The Lord. You can’t say 3 individuals, who are each separate and distinct from one another, each consisting of their OWN full divine essence, are all the ONE true God. That makes no sense at all. That’s polytheism. Unless you’re saying each person is a percentage of God, which is equally ridiculous. The GOD of Jesus, was The Father, not a trinity. The Father is the Holy Spirit, because that’s what he is, holy and spirit. Do you worship the same GOD that Jesus did, that his disciples did, that everyone in the Bible did??? These are the words of Paul, 1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but ONE GOD, THE FATHER, of whom are all things, and we in him; and ONE LORD Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Wow listen to you🤭may The Lord increase you mightily and even to the point of knowledge of Him! 🙌