extremely underrated designs

This is literally EXACTLY what I thought about the trio in this game (and I absolutely love it)

Reminds me of the ruined regi-trio

I always thought of Dialga’s, Roar of Time, as a wailing roar. Instead of hurting your eardrums, it’s hurting the past, present and future. A scream that’s focuses on everything, everywhere all at once.

Agreed. The originals always felt like action figures marketed towards young boys to me. The newer forms look like eldritch deities that rule time and space.

“We outta PS5’s”

It's literally the other eay around lmao Dialga and Palkia were "just like Arceus" and then changef into the Forms seen in Gen4 Giratina was made as a noodle and then it took a body-plan more similar to Arceus's for the Altered Form

If only they had different abilities to their regular forms and dialga’s didn’t feel like a downgrade from its regular form competitively.

I've gone back and forth over whether I like base Palkia or Dialga more over the years, but generally I have the opposite opinion to you. I wonder if we're less inclined to like the origin forms of the one whose regular form we prefer, but the origin form of the other one gives us something new to appreciate?

I tend to agree. But they really should've either given palkia arms or changed the form of the shoulders to make them feel less goofy. Otherwise it's a great design

@@docomega7862 I get that, I don’t think giving Palkia arms would’ve detracted too much from its appeal.

Yeah, I wasn’t sure about Origin Dialga at first, but it grew on me and I find it pretty alright now. Origin Palkia I liked since the start tho. The hate for both designs is unfair, but the one for Origin Palkia I didn’t get at all even at first.

BONUS ARCEUS FACTS: Arceus indeed has many different inspirations, but the obvious one is Buddha. This is due to Arceus's torso crest bearing a striking resemblance to the Dharma wheel and the "thousand hands" reference in the Pokédex. Arceus has a motif of "light". Most of the iconography I've found relating to Arcues in this regard seems to be shared with both Buddha and Judeo-Christian artwork. I still haven't finished PLA yet, so maybe there's some of that Zoroastrian / Judeo-Christian "Light = good and God, Darkness = bad", that I haven't seen yet. Arceus base colours of yellow and white could represent the aureola: A cloud that refracts the sun's light to appear golden, which appears in artwork of heavenly beings coming to earth. Arceus's beta sprite and glow in the PLA opening could represent the judeo-christian god, a la the burning bush. The diffraction of light in the opening, as well as how Arceus uses the type plates in the anime, also suggest something else. Arceus's crest also represents light diffraction, with the plates being the different colours of light. A front facing view of Arceus using the plates might look like a candle difracting light. If we can take the iconography of Ultra-necrozma's (and Shagaru Magala's from Monster Hunter for some reason) base colour of yellow, perhaps Shiny Arceus is meant to be literally shiny, if not the shiniest shiny that ever shined. As for the hoofed animal thing, it probably has to do with the sacredness of work animals in southern and Central Asia. Most know that killing a cow is taboo in many parts of India, but this was true to varying degrees for much of the history of china and other central asian cultures. This is partially why horses are so sacred in Mongolian culture. It's also likely that it's because hoofed animals are seen as more majestic than most and occur widely (except here in Oceania, lol). I also believe the plates of Arceus has to do with traditional carving practises of the Ainu. In some parts of Hokkaido, the indigenous folk have a very special relation to carvings with wooden plates. Kind of ironic considering that much of Sinnoh's grand creation lore, with the likeness to Shinto Kami, is in contrast to a lot of real life Hokkaido's indigenous beliefs being more concerned with the physical and spiritual health of the local environment in the Kamui. At least to my knowledge. I'm probably digging too deep. Anyway, thanks for reading again.

And Dracovish

it's because regular palkia is apparently vaguely shaped in a phallic manner and the 12 year olds in the fandom have an incessant need to sexualize everything

And for dialga they managed to do that. Butpalkia's shoulders? They don't look eldritch or unsettling. They just look goofy

I find that hard to believe but glad you do

Somehow it connects to Explorers of Sky all of sudden considering how much of an aggressive enforcer Palkia was and Dialga appearing more of a benevolent observer or the fact when you deny recruiting Dialga to your team he walks away sulky and disappointed

I mean Least that’s the point It loses the ability to properly use Roar of Time because of that

I don’t get the hate for the legs but I wish the neck thing was moved down so it doesn’t look like it’s choking on something big. People say the legs look “too stiff” but he’s the mascot of DIAMOND, it works in my opinion and I don’t know how else the legs are supposed to look. Just look like Arceus’ but blue?

@@THGMR-ox7sd the front legs of Dialga just look too awkward to me. If the just got rid of the back spine I think it’d be better, not good but better