I think you missed the point of what he was saying!!!

@@tommueller1547 NO HE HAS A PAST OF A WANT TO BE BILL !!!!! IT IS OK TO TO A CAST SHADOW BUT HE IS A LITTLE TO SCARY OF A COPY CAT FOR ME AND MY GROUP !!!!! LOL ....

@@WASHINGTONSTATEDOGTRAINERand so what if he comes across as a wanna be Bill Hillmann. He stated that he's known Bill Hillmann for years and has paid tribute to him as a great trainer and has followed and used his methods. That's a compliment. I follow and use Bill Hillmanns methods. Wish I would have known of them 40 years ago when I got my first retriever. If you follow Mike Pindwood you'll that see he demonstrates his own drills. All in all training retrievers is a variation on a theme. How many trainers out there have written books and produced videos? When you compare all of them the process is pretty much the same. Yes they all have their tips and techniques that they add to accomplish this or that but in the end it's basically the same and you can cherry pick from one or another trainer's methods to fit your program. So why be so critical? Where does that get you?

@@tommueller1547 Your a mother Liberal A wipe , this is a free country and my comment is just as good as anyone’s.... This guy and bill Hillmann is a copy cat of REX CARR .... IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY , OH YEAH AND YOUR BUDDY SHOULD HAVE NOT SMOKED SO MUCH AND MAYBE HIS VOICE WOULD BE BETTER....

Let me ask you? Do you follow Bill Hillmann and use his techniques and methods? If so then you like me are also a Bill Hillmann "wanna be!" Everyone that plays the retriever train8ng game finds some pro or expert and use their training methods to emulate them!