Great in depth review. I bought the Samyang a few years ago and am never regretted it. Even wide open it meets my needs. That it is very small, light and cost effective...is the icing on the cake!
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
Right on, I have two of the small ones for my occasional camera comparisons. They were so inexpensive
@Cthames12311 ай бұрын
CharlieVN tested two Samyangs, the 24mm, f1.8 and the 24mm, f2.8. Which one are you referring to? The very small one, (or smallest of the two is the f2.8 one). Is that the one you kept?
@ryanhawaiian96712 жыл бұрын
Great comparison and a timely one for many Sony shooters. Keep up the great work!
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
More to come! thanks
@davjeon4272 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your reviews! IMO SY 1.8 is the best all rounder lens especially if you want to travel light and have limited budget. The biggest issue aside from the price of the GM was that it was simply too heavy to pair with the A7C as a daily. Which is why I opted for the SY 1.8 and is now glued to my A7C. What I realized later though is that if you own a A7iii or A7VI you might as well go for the GM 1.4 if you have the budget for it. Since the A7iii and A7VI is 100 grams heavier suddenly the 24 1.4GM doesn't feel heavy anymore. So the weight balances out and utility wise having a 1.4 is amazing.
@TheChadWork2001 Жыл бұрын
I appreciated the comment about getting the money from your wife's purse, and the choir when the Sony lense appeared.
@JoATTech2 жыл бұрын
The most underrated photo channel on YT. Love the edgy humor. Came here for the jokes, cause got 24mm F2.8 already :).
@imisjake33892 жыл бұрын
Wow nice video! Keep up the good work 😄
@withlovefrommichigan2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thorough video. One of the only good ones I found comparing the two Samyang Lenses and I appreciate seeing them both compared to the GM.
@Cthames12311 ай бұрын
Here, here! Great video and a lot of work.
@Princeton_James2 жыл бұрын
I really wouldn't mind paying for the GM if it was that much better. In all of my tests it was so close to the SY 1.8. You really can't justify paying that price for the GM. There is no clear advantage of that lens. I'm so happy with my SY 1.8.
@wateaman2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this comparison!
@tsizzle2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. I wish you were able to also include the Sony FE 24mm f/2.8 G in the comparison….
@Cthames12311 ай бұрын
Yeah it looked like the Sony 24mm, f2.8, G was the one Charlie popped into the video,(photo), towards the end. The more fair comparison would be to put it against the Samyang 24mm, f2.8, and consider the two compact options.
@HelmutBemboka Жыл бұрын
Is that the Evergreen that got stuck in the Suez Canal???
@errantseed2 жыл бұрын
it was a really good lens for the short time that I had it- was a bit heavy though- but I liked it a lot. image quality and lens performance were excellent... however, there are two really huge problems with it: first, is that the mounting plate is screwed into four small plastic posts- this is all that is holding your lens onto your camera. so let's say you trip and fall and you bang your lens on the ground (which I've done with my sony 28-70mm kit lens- but it still works perfectly), or if your tripod with your camera falls, as mine did, the plastic posts will simply break on impact and your lens will just snap straight off your camera. the second problem is trying to get that repaired. it will not go well because repair shops cannot get any parts for your lens, and Samyang has only one location in the US to fix the things covered by their warranty... so ultimately you'll learn that you've bought a $1000 disposable lens... a real shame because I would have easily replaced it with another. Instead, though I'm gonna miss the 4mm on the wide end, I got the Tamron.
@TheLensSchwendi2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, I'm new here. Great video and congrats to 1000. You just earned one more. I liked the phrase "What the f-stop!" 😀 I just ordered a 20mm for my new Sony, so you make me feel bad now with your intro (just kidding). Thanks for this cool video and hello from Switzerland
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! enjoy your new lens
@TheLensSchwendi2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieVN You bet, I will! I'm a lens design engineer for industrial camera systems (Leica Geosystems), so I'm kind of a crazy lens-freak 😀. I'm only an amateur in practical use of lenses. But as I know, how difficult it is, to design and make good lenses, for me every single lens is something special.
@gromit576 Жыл бұрын
I bought Samyang 24mm f1.8 last week and a Moza mini-p gimbal. Tried setting up my A7III with the Samyang, but the eyecup gets caught at the roll bar of the gimbal. I have seen on YT the Samyang 2.8 on A7iii fit properly. I am in a dilemma. Option 1: return the 24mm f1.8 and get f2.8 to use with the Moza mini-p. Option 2: retrun the mini-p and get a Weebill S to use with the f1.8? Opt 1 saves me about $500. Opt 2 gives me a superior lens and gimbal.
@tanergungortv Жыл бұрын
Very good review, thanks
@Ava-ph9vv2 жыл бұрын
Breathes as much as a smoker on a treadmill, lol. Subbed just for that.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
Are you shooting jpegs or raw for these tests? I got the Samyang 24mm 1.8 and the CA was insane.
@GilbertTV2 жыл бұрын
congratulations on hitting 1K subs
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀, it's been a bit of work, and a whole lot more than I expected.
@DavidBerlind10 ай бұрын
I kept waiting for comparative images between the Samyang 1.8 and the GM. That's the more obvious comparison to do. But for some reason, it was only the 2.8 vs the GM. 😢
@CharlieVN9 ай бұрын
I have a dedicated video for that kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hr-eiZumztrXgIU.html
@gehrrman2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@371E2 жыл бұрын
ohhh man, yoour comparison just the best i ever saw! Thank you so much!
@OlavAlexanderMjelde2 жыл бұрын
I will buy this Samyang. While I can respect people who are pro get the GM lens, for me as an amateur shooter the Samyang in Norway costs about 30% of the price of the GM. I am very happy with the 85mm Samyang F1.4 which I bought new, its what I mainly use when taking pictures of the car, my kid etc. But then the 50mm samyang I dont take out of my bag :P So it's never used, that one I did buy used for ~50% of its new price.. So what I really need is something opposite of the 85mm, I believe maybe 24mm is the best then... Plan on upping my camera game with some ND filters, long exposure, filters for night etc. But still just for hobby. Using the Sony A7C.
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
cool, no wrong answers, I use the SY 35 f1.8 to film my YT videos and 24 for personal. I’ve paired it with 85 and it’s great. looking for a really small 85 alternative, the sigma 90 which I have on preorder.
@OlavAlexanderMjelde2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieVN yes, also the Sony one in 85mm should be good and compact (and affordable). It is quite amazing though to see that todays lenses in "mid end" in many ways can compete against old lenses which had double the cost :P Of course you dont get the same tank-experience in build quality, but Ive seen several people compare samyang, tamron and todays Sony budget alternatives to the early zeiss series. I do however know that the 50mm samyang I have while its good at photos, the AF for video cant keep up with the Sonys or the latest samyangs. However the 85mm I think is better than the 50mm on focus, but I just use it for photo :-) The 24mm I think could be used more for video though, but it looks like its not got as noisy AF and less focus breathing.
@Cthames12311 ай бұрын
Not sure which Samyang you bought. Charlie tested out two Samyangs, the 24mm, f1.8 and the super tiny 24mm, f2.8…which one did you end up getting?
@OlavAlexanderMjelde11 ай бұрын
@@Cthames123f1.8:)
@jbeats022 жыл бұрын
Been eyeing that 24mm 1.8 samyang
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
it’s quite good, Samyang’s “art” equivalent.
@themindofchrist Жыл бұрын
Great videos. Do you have any experience using the Sony ZV-E10 with the Samyang 24mm f1.8? Would that camera and lens be great for videography? Any thoughts?
@CharlieVN Жыл бұрын
sorry no, the closest thing is the A6400 I had, didnt use it with the 24.
@themindofchrist Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieVN no problem. Thank you for such a quick response!!
@arthurgphotography2 жыл бұрын
Might sell my GM for the Samyang after I see detailed astro comparisons. Samyang appears to have more coma but less astigmatism. (Samyang) Seems to vary by copy for aberrations.
@langsoosten18752 жыл бұрын
Great!
@NickSAM2 жыл бұрын
Does 24mm focal length enough wide for landscape and vlog??? Before I thought I will buy Samyang 18mm F2.8 than Sony 20mm F1.8 but it doesn't have Weather Sealing. Currently I'm comparing between Sony 20mm F1.8 vs Samyang 24mm F1.8 (on sale on Amazon under $500 now)
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
sure, it could work, but it's kind of tight for both and at the same time, pretty wide for a standard lens. 10:48 the vlogging test, you can get a feel of how wide it will be.
@NickSAM2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieVN How far did your arm need to move out between shoulder to camera?
@OlavAlexanderMjelde2 жыл бұрын
@@NickSAM you can put the camera on an "arm", especially with a lightweight lens.
@GilbertTV2 жыл бұрын
you want say it but I will... DONT waste ya money on the GM get the Samyang F1.8
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
I need creative ways to fund the A7iv at this point, will likely rent it..... and hopefully, the 35-150 as well, definitely want to try and review those two before end of year.
@method3412 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video. Is the GM ok for talking head videos? I am concerned because some people have reported weird noises with it. Have you noticed this issue?
@method3412 жыл бұрын
When you say AF breathing that's only if you're moving around or showing products right? If you're just sitting in your chair and just using gestures with your hands and talking, this AF breathing should be minimised? If you could do a 'talking head' setup with your A7 iii it would be much appreciated as I'm looking to purchase one.
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
yes, if you're doing product showcase a lot, it might be bothersome..... but at the end of the day, likely nobody cares, Jane ASMR has 14M subs on her channel and the lens she uses has focus breathing 😅. For my current talking head videos, I use the samyang 35f1.8 (has focus breathing) and have used the A7iii as A roll on some of my videos. It's borderline indistinguishable for these types of videos. The biggest flaw is that I have the tendency to run into the 30 minute record limit, these video recordings often get to the hour mark, then I trim the crap out of them..... I hate starting and stopping, it breaks my flow, A7c has unlimited record times in case you want a full frame setup.
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
my latest video, A7iii A-roll kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKlnlpuptty7oHU.html the breathing will be non existent for talking heads
@agnib_das2 жыл бұрын
Can u please share a photo or video which shows difference between 35mm 2.8 vs 35mm 1.8 and 50mm 2.8 vs 50mm 1.8?? Please sir I am very much confused about getting prime lens of 35mm, 85mm and 20mm (may be) vs Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 and we all now the hustle to change the primes (since i have only one camera body) instead of the hustle if there is a significant difference in lowlight or bokeh i am willing to take that pain. Btw do u have any personal suggestion on this selections pls help regarding this. Thank you.
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
for my personal pleasure and travels, I use primes mostly because I'm more about what I can get rather than what I'm missing, I dont focus on negatives. As for my youtube channel, personal landscapes, timelapses, or if I'm on a mission to make a high quality video, I tend to use zooms and dont shy away from them at all. Most of my B-roll on this channel is with the use of a zoom. I do plan on doing focal length comparison video, but it's turning out a little more complicated than I initially imagined.
@agnib_das2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieVN i am into travel videos. Aspiring to be a 'youtube cinematographer' what do u recommand 3 primes or Tamron 28-75mm for run and gun? Is 2.8 and 1.8 a huge difference in bokeh and low light?
@OlavAlexanderMjelde2 жыл бұрын
@@agnib_das it depends, it's not just about F-stop but also how far you are from subject. So for instance with 50mm f1.8, its much harder to get bookeh vs 85mm f1.4, but it is not just because of the f1.4 vs 1.8. The thing is that with the 85mm you get really close to the subject, so then the background is very easy to blur out. On a full frame the best portrait up close will be the 85mm, same with shooting cars I think. However its hard to frame stuff at 85mm, if you dont have _a lot_ of space :P And especially indoor shots might be tricky! It also might not be able to focus that close for video etc. Also if you pan around a subject at 85mm, the background will move very little, where as paning around subject with 24mm it makes the background almost seem like a "parralax" effect, where it gives a depth in the movement. What is best? I would say it depends... So like a sport video with 85mm shot from the side, it will look very boring, since it will look calm/relaxed. Where as if you are shooting an ad or interviewing someone, or maybe shooting a flying bird or something, then the 85mm might be better. I am by no means an expert, I just have experience with what I have bought and also looked at a lot of reviews of lenses, some of them comparing how different "zooms" make the same scenes look. But be aware as in this video demonstrated: a wide angle can make your subjects look strange/distorted.
@TheChadWork2001 Жыл бұрын
Can't see the reveal differences because you didn't leave them up long enough.
@pulpmysteryfan2 ай бұрын
You can pause the video and zoom in.
@ParichayaGFX2 жыл бұрын
Can we vlog on 24mm gm on a gorillapod?
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
most definitely, the tripod I was using is similarly sized to the gorillapod. In some videos, I have used the GM and gorillapod, just keep in mind for longer sessions, it does get heavy, a 200-300g lens makes a big difference in weight when your arms stretched out...... aside from that, the GM is amazing.
@ParichayaGFX2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieVN Do you consider samyang 24 over viltrox and GM? It has good AF and just 230gms.
@andreas1701d2 жыл бұрын
Solid comparison. I'm a big fan of the Samyangs; I've got the 35 and 75 1.8 lenses and love them both; they strike a great balance between performance, cost and size. As for the GM, my suggestion would be to keep the 24 1.8, sell the GM and use the money to buy the 20mm 1.8 G instead. You'd get 90-95% of the 24 GM's performance and pocket some extra cash to boot!
@CharlieVN2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for thoughts, I've considered that lens for a while, might borrow it from a buddy of mine to do some comparisons, had the voigtlander 21 in the past, absolutely amazing, but I simply missed focus too often, so working with the focal length would be fine with me.
@andreas1701d2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieVN Definitely won't have any af issues with the Sony 20. I'd say it's the best lens I've ever owned and in fact chose it over the 24 GM after testing both for two reasons... 1, it was way cheaper and 2, it's significantly smaller + lighter... Its actually smaller & lighter than the Sigma 16 1.4 APSC lens I had too!