Right on, I have two of the small ones for my occasional camera comparisons. They were so inexpensive

CharlieVN tested two Samyangs, the 24mm, f1.8 and the 24mm, f2.8. Which one are you referring to? The very small one, (or smallest of the two is the f2.8 one). Is that the one you kept?

More to come! thanks

Here, here! Great video and a lot of work.

Yeah it looked like the Sony 24mm, f2.8, G was the one Charlie popped into the video,(photo), towards the end. The more fair comparison would be to put it against the Samyang 24mm, f2.8, and consider the two compact options.

Thanks for the sub! enjoy your new lens

@@CharlieVN You bet, I will! I'm a lens design engineer for industrial camera systems (Leica Geosystems), so I'm kind of a crazy lens-freak 😀. I'm only an amateur in practical use of lenses. But as I know, how difficult it is, to design and make good lenses, for me every single lens is something special.

Thank you so much 😀, it's been a bit of work, and a whole lot more than I expected.

I have a dedicated video for that kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hr-eiZumztrXgIU.html

cool, no wrong answers, I use the SY 35 f1.8 to film my YT videos and 24 for personal. I’ve paired it with 85 and it’s great. looking for a really small 85 alternative, the sigma 90 which I have on preorder.

@@CharlieVN yes, also the Sony one in 85mm should be good and compact (and affordable). It is quite amazing though to see that todays lenses in "mid end" in many ways can compete against old lenses which had double the cost :P Of course you dont get the same tank-experience in build quality, but Ive seen several people compare samyang, tamron and todays Sony budget alternatives to the early zeiss series. I do however know that the 50mm samyang I have while its good at photos, the AF for video cant keep up with the Sonys or the latest samyangs. However the 85mm I think is better than the 50mm on focus, but I just use it for photo :-) The 24mm I think could be used more for video though, but it looks like its not got as noisy AF and less focus breathing.

Not sure which Samyang you bought. Charlie tested out two Samyangs, the 24mm, f1.8 and the super tiny 24mm, f2.8…which one did you end up getting?

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it’s quite good, Samyang’s “art” equivalent.

sorry no, the closest thing is the A6400 I had, didnt use it with the 24.

@@CharlieVN no problem. Thank you for such a quick response!!

sure, it could work, but it's kind of tight for both and at the same time, pretty wide for a standard lens. 10:48 the vlogging test, you can get a feel of how wide it will be.

@@CharlieVN How far did your arm need to move out between shoulder to camera?

​@@NickSAM you can put the camera on an "arm", especially with a lightweight lens.

I need creative ways to fund the A7iv at this point, will likely rent it..... and hopefully, the 35-150 as well, definitely want to try and review those two before end of year.

When you say AF breathing that's only if you're moving around or showing products right? If you're just sitting in your chair and just using gestures with your hands and talking, this AF breathing should be minimised? If you could do a 'talking head' setup with your A7 iii it would be much appreciated as I'm looking to purchase one.

yes, if you're doing product showcase a lot, it might be bothersome..... but at the end of the day, likely nobody cares, Jane ASMR has 14M subs on her channel and the lens she uses has focus breathing 😅. For my current talking head videos, I use the samyang 35f1.8 (has focus breathing) and have used the A7iii as A roll on some of my videos. It's borderline indistinguishable for these types of videos. The biggest flaw is that I have the tendency to run into the 30 minute record limit, these video recordings often get to the hour mark, then I trim the crap out of them..... I hate starting and stopping, it breaks my flow, A7c has unlimited record times in case you want a full frame setup.

my latest video, A7iii A-roll kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKlnlpuptty7oHU.html the breathing will be non existent for talking heads

for my personal pleasure and travels, I use primes mostly because I'm more about what I can get rather than what I'm missing, I dont focus on negatives. As for my youtube channel, personal landscapes, timelapses, or if I'm on a mission to make a high quality video, I tend to use zooms and dont shy away from them at all. Most of my B-roll on this channel is with the use of a zoom. I do plan on doing focal length comparison video, but it's turning out a little more complicated than I initially imagined.

@@CharlieVN i am into travel videos. Aspiring to be a 'youtube cinematographer' what do u recommand 3 primes or Tamron 28-75mm for run and gun? Is 2.8 and 1.8 a huge difference in bokeh and low light?

@@agnib_das it depends, it's not just about F-stop but also how far you are from subject. So for instance with 50mm f1.8, its much harder to get bookeh vs 85mm f1.4, but it is not just because of the f1.4 vs 1.8. The thing is that with the 85mm you get really close to the subject, so then the background is very easy to blur out. On a full frame the best portrait up close will be the 85mm, same with shooting cars I think. However its hard to frame stuff at 85mm, if you dont have _a lot_ of space :P And especially indoor shots might be tricky! It also might not be able to focus that close for video etc. Also if you pan around a subject at 85mm, the background will move very little, where as paning around subject with 24mm it makes the background almost seem like a "parralax" effect, where it gives a depth in the movement. What is best? I would say it depends... So like a sport video with 85mm shot from the side, it will look very boring, since it will look calm/relaxed. Where as if you are shooting an ad or interviewing someone, or maybe shooting a flying bird or something, then the 85mm might be better. I am by no means an expert, I just have experience with what I have bought and also looked at a lot of reviews of lenses, some of them comparing how different "zooms" make the same scenes look. But be aware as in this video demonstrated: a wide angle can make your subjects look strange/distorted.

You can pause the video and zoom in.

most definitely, the tripod I was using is similarly sized to the gorillapod. In some videos, I have used the GM and gorillapod, just keep in mind for longer sessions, it does get heavy, a 200-300g lens makes a big difference in weight when your arms stretched out...... aside from that, the GM is amazing.

@@CharlieVN Do you consider samyang 24 over viltrox and GM? It has good AF and just 230gms.

Thanks for thoughts, I've considered that lens for a while, might borrow it from a buddy of mine to do some comparisons, had the voigtlander 21 in the past, absolutely amazing, but I simply missed focus too often, so working with the focal length would be fine with me.

@@CharlieVN Definitely won't have any af issues with the Sony 20. I'd say it's the best lens I've ever owned and in fact chose it over the 24 GM after testing both for two reasons... 1, it was way cheaper and 2, it's significantly smaller + lighter... Its actually smaller & lighter than the Sigma 16 1.4 APSC lens I had too!