Surely your not suggesting Fyfe is a better player than Pavlich ? How did you even get to this conclusion?

You mean you pronounced Wanganeen, as Tredrea..

@@deakinpack9920 Pavlich is better than Fyfe. Most non vics dont know how big Pavlich name is in Freo

Pavlich is freos best ever player, so fyfe won two brownlows, so what !! He gets the ball and usually turns it over, lots of Wasted possessions.. i noticed a long time ago that Freo usually win when he dosent play as he always seems to get injured, fyfe is completely overrated. and Ben cousins dident win a premiership in 2005, it was 2006 research your facts better..!!

@@deakinpack9920 2 Brownlows I guess?

Flower was 100x the player Barassi was.

What about Keith Greg and Malcolm Blight . Both better than the duck. Keith Greg was a smooth perfectly made machine.😅😅

Yeah i forgot to include Fitzroy, but if i did Bunton would've been a lock for that spot. Yeah it was difficult for me to decide between Judd and Cousins, but chose Cousins because he's a good bloke lol.

As a Collingwood supporter I'd have to put Syd Coventry, Gordon Coventry, Harry Collier, Albert Collier, Bob Rose and possibly Lou Richards ahead of the great Nathan Buckley. I also think Haydn Bunton should be considered the best player for the Brisbane Lions. It is a merged club after all. Coleman is a good choice for Essendon but I favour Dick Reynolds over Coleman. Similarly, I feel that Jack Dyer or Royce Hart should be considered Richmond's best. Other than those alterations it was a great list that I largely agree with. Good job.

@@fishjj76 I would put Darren Milane above Bucks too but Coventry is my pick.

@@baird55aus Good point. R.I.P 42

Pavlich over Fyfe, a absolute champion & like Rooey from my team the Saints. Pav did everything he could to win a flag 4 his club, then again many champions have walked away with out a flag. I'd check on Lethal Leigh as well because lm sure you said 1 all Australian on his resume. The best player lve seen has more than one or they weren't handing them out through his career. There are to many greats to rank especially since we will never see them play ever. I love Lou Richards, but Buckley & the rest someone named like Bobby Rose leave Lou behind. Buckley's kicking puts him in the pies top 5 with Pendles, Scott it's a absolute pleasure to watch you play champion 👍

agree, god was astounding; although to have his son in a serious conversation about this is remarkable. god's run off the flank and his fierceness at the ball allied to his freak marking and goal tally edge him over jesus. amazingly, i rekkun if nathan had either his dad's or brother's passion to play he might have eclipsed both! that said, polly farmer was a step up again and perhaps one of the greatest players ever - how could he be overlooked???

Ablett Snr. kicked 586 goals in 161 games and he holds the record for the highest goals per game average for a non-specialist forward with 3.6 goals per game as he was a wingman-half forward flanker. The last 81 games of his career he kicked 444 goals in 81 games averaging 5.5 goals per game at full forward and he is the only player to win the Coleman Medal and kick 100 goals three straight seasons.

Loved both as footballers. Both equally awesome in their own rights. Both totally different players. Senior was magical, junior was silkier.

He often looked like he was a man playing against boy's. I've never seen a player look as dominant on the field as Ablett senior and I'm a tiger supporter 🎉🎉

Well said. I don’t follow geelong but ablett sr is the best I’ve ever seen. He was otherworldly. Jr was awesome also but a level below sr 💯

So agree with you

Kicked alot of goals at a time the game wasnt the same.

And I would also put Selwood now above Abblett Snr. Also imo if Jr had stayed a Cat he'd shaded the ol' man also. Tough being ''God'', aint it? Farmer v Selwood, now that is a hard one for the diehard Cat fan to decide. Farmer greatest Ruckman to have played in Mexico. Stephen Michael greatest Ruckman to have played in W.A.

Tbf Polly did change the game in 1 bad way More handballs

yep

oh yeah didn't realise that until now. both very dominant players!

Hawthorn' have had the best players of any club. How do Hudson and Dunstall not compare to Leigh Mathews?

Also Dick Reynolds was more highly regarded than Coleman at Essendon anyway so it's a big call to say that Coleman was the best!

@@rahulbhatia7798 Coleman's impact on the game is more and I considered Dick Reynolds for this spot as well as James Hird. In my opinion either can be interchanged here

Comparing Coleman to Hudson is like splitting hairs. Generally players are rated on how dominant they are in their eras compared their contemporaries. Coleman played in a much lower scoring era, the game was played differently in his era compared to Hudson. Both outstanding and legendary players of course but the differences being in Hudson's era, many players were kicking tonnes, hence he won the league goalkeeping award 4 times in 7 years, compared to Coleman 5 times in 5 full seasons. The other difference is that Coleman had not hit his peak at the time of his injury, it was only his 6th season in senior football, compared to Huddo retiring in about his 10th senior season (having played several seasons in Tasmania's highest league). Many of those who saw Coleman play rate him the best they ever saw & by a fair margin, but again. As I said, like splitting hairs, you would probably rate them equal, easily both legends.

Even Leigh Matthews had said that “Alex Jesaulenko was the Buddy Franklin of his era. He had sensational overhead and wondrous balance on the ground and in the air.”

chers bud

I find difficult to have pick only one from most clubs but Hawthorn particularly aswell . Aswell as those mentioned a few more names I think worthy of the discussion are Platten & Tuck

I'd go with Michael tuck tbh

No doubt that Hawthorn has the most impressive list of players to chose from

Just envision if he had played full forward his entire career. He’d have had 1100 or 1200 goals.

@@joememphis1571 Probaby even way more than that. In 1993, he kicked 124 goals in 17 games.. at the ripe old age of 32, imagine what he would have been doing in his mid 20s

@@taxads7791 What is even more unique is that Gary Ablett holds the record of goals per game for a non-specialist forward with 3.6 goals per game as he alternated between the half forward flank and wing in the early years of his career.

@@joememphis1571 Freak, best player I ever saw by a long way. Could do anything, dominated games in the middle and up forward. Sad that he didn't get to celebrate a premiership unfortunately.

@@taxads7791 To kick nine goals on a losing GF side is a testament to the freakish nature of Gary Ablett’s playing style.

He couldn't kick

Essendon themselves don't rate Coleman as their greatest. Dick Reynolds was named the clubs greatest player in 2002. He does have 3 Brownlows, 4 premierships and 7 club B&Fs and he wasn't even an honourable mention. Dick himself saw Coleman play and said he wasn't the best player, Bill Hutchison (2x Brownlow winner with the club)was better than both them.

Port Magpies player though, so he doesn't count. Played before Power were a thing

@@-hobbit-9481 Its the Port Adelaide Football Club. Russell Ebert played for them.

@@tjabaker As of 2010, so Port Magpie history is null and void

@@-hobbit-9481 you are so misinformed, or just yet another intentionally wrong idiot. The PAFC was established in 1870. They played in the SANFL from 1877 until 1996. They then switched their first team to the AFL and have played there since. Russell Ebert played for this club. A new club was invented on 1997, the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club. They played in the SANFL from 1997 to 2010.

100% what i was thinking

@@glitch2250 same

Also the g train

Absolutely Robert Harvey, he didn't even do stat's Harvey would of killed it. St Kilda became a better team after Lockett left.

Yep and Darrell Baldock and Ian Stewart are contenders as well.

yes i did, cheers for the support!

Not really "so many wrong picks". Reynolds is the only real standout mistake. Coleman was a strange pick though considering he didn't even play 100 games, and Essendon has had so many great players.

Cheers man. I actually have a thumbnail maker @Max Stahl. He's in the comments section somewhere. He uses adobe photoshop I'm pretty sure.

Thanks mayne 💕

@@MakeItRainProd ahh thats probably why its soo good

@Lats Niebling In my humble opinion, Buddy will be the final player to kick 800, 900 or 1000 goals, the last to kick 100 goals in a home and away season and the last player to average 3 goals per game.

Could see that happening for sure!

Lockett is the greatest player in vfl/afl history.. I mean it not just about kicking straight, reading the play brute strength, intimidation, he also laid off so many balls to his team mates to kick truly.. he won brownlow, all Australian jumpers, The best defenders in history just couldn't stop him.., just an awesome power forward to watch..!!

@@elmerfudd6305 He was a powerhouse and very strong to boot no pun intended. Had he not missed parts of four years, he would've had 1500 goals for sure.

Joe Memphis.. your right he would have Kicked 1500 goals..

two words - polly farmer...

@@hedonismunderstands2469 Polly was unique, wonderful and electrifying with his handball skills and he had a raking left foot which made his stab passes more accurate.

beat slapsss

Junior was one of the most wondrous and electrifying midfielders of his era and his dad averaged 4.2 goals per game in 13 seasons with Geelong.

@Lats Niebling From 1984 to 1992, Ablett Sr. kicked 586 goals in 161 games as a half forward flanker and wingman. From 1993 to 1996, he kicked 444 goals in 81 games averaging 5.5 goals per game.

@Lats Niebling Thank you kindly. Here’s a kicker, no pun intended, I’m from America and I’ve been watching Australian rules football for nearly 30 years when they would show it on ESPN at 4.00 AM Saturday morning. It’s one of the best sports in the world.

I've seen them both play and I think that Jr is a more complete player than his father but Sr was a much better forward/half-forward. If I had 1st pick in the playground I take prime Jr over prime Sr and especially if we're playing more modern era rules and style. Sr was great tho don't get me wrong.

@Lats Niebling i see your god and raise you a polly farmer...

Probably. Hawthorn has been around for a while and has had quite a few noteworthy players in their history

@@MakeItRainProd it was a great list. Only meant as a small critique and not a knock on the overall video. Not sure if you meantioned dunstall either. As you indicated there's definitely been a huge number of champions that have played for that club so you could definitely argue that neither would make the list. Cheers

Nope, he was pre selected for Freo in 1994 but Neesham didn't like something about Mcleod's physical appearance (earnings, tattoos) so he was traded to Adelaide for Chris Groom.

@@chasindigo Thanks for that Chas. I didn’t know that.

Thanks for taking the time to show once again how meaningless stats are.

Could only mention so few

in December big boy

Jezza was a Freak....Nick was just big.

Cousins was their best

Agreed. Jackovich and Peter Matera were better than Cousins. Both 2 x premiership players. Jackovich was a mountain down back, and Matera was class throughout his whole career.

And they didn't take drugs. So they could not be accused of being drug cheats.

@@jewdavid5627 Huh?

Ben Cousins was a druggie.

Wayne Carey was the ultimate centre half forward. He could notch 20 to 25 disposals per game and in the same contest, kick five or six goals. Best contested mark for a man of his size that I had seen.

Freo Pavlich more impact more leadership

Hird is in the top 5 at Essendon but I don't think he's their greatest. Dick Reynolds has 2 more Brownlows and Coleman changed the game. Don't forget you have to fit Simon Maddan in there too as he was a fantastic player. Edit: I almost forgot Bill Hutchison. He has to be top 5 too.

@@redtiger4352 pav and fyfe are neck and neck in my opinion, the 2 brownlows are what just get fyfe over the line for me

@@dansharp2860 yeah Essendon are a tough one to pick Reynolds, Coleman, Hird and even Matty Lloyd were who I mulled over I guess I just have recency bias. Dick Reynolds and John Coleman are hall of fame legends after all .

And an absolute disgrace off the field

@@crutches111 don’t think that was the question

@@ChuckGibbs39 will be remembered more for his off field antics than on

@@crutches111 That’s clearly not the case, commonly rated as the best player of all time. Him and Gary Ablett Senior both are clearly more remembered for on field

@@ChuckGibbs39 tell that to Alisha Horan’s parents

Probably should’ve mentioned him. My bad

@Lats Niebling Blight won a brownlow and a Coleman, only 2 players in the history of the game have done that.

i don't think so but will be close

Great burglar

whoops, made a mistake, AFL Tables says 4.16 per game over his career

@@MakeItRainProd 👍

its a fine line i feel but fair if you feel like it should be separate

and buddy...

Crawf shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as those Champs.

As good as Carey was, Blight was better.

Jr also won a Brownlow in Gold Coast

@@MakeItRainProd I agree he shojld be gold coast's but based on what you said, why wouldnt he also be the best player to ever play for geelong? 😂

Greg Williams was magnificent and superlative despite being knock-kneed and having controversy with salary cap issues and pushing an umpire in front of 85,000 people in the final season of his career . He even got AFL Team of The Century inclusion on the interchange. 1986 and 1994 Brownlow Medallist and 1995 premiership player.

It's hard to make an argument against Dick Reynolds for the Bombers. He has 3 Brownlows which is the equal most of any player, 4 premierships all as captain and 7 club B&Fs. Also a team of the century nod. Coleman changed the game and Hird is easily the best Bomber of the modern era but it's still King Richard for me at #1 so it's baffling he wasn't an HM at least.

@@dansharp2860 King Richard was with Essendon for 772 games. 325 as a player and 447 as a coach of which 174 were as player-coach. 1933-1950 as a player and from 1939-1960 as player-coach and then senior coach.

@@joememphis1571 The man could do it all

you are completely correct. my fault haha

Yes I do In fact

Obviously never saw this Freak...

I can't put Hunter below him....or above him.

Pendles is better anyway

Coventry would be a honourable mention.

Albert Collier the best ever player? On what merit?

@@azzaprime7257 On any merit that any person makes a statement like that. Who can really say who was the best player ever? It's an opinion, going on Mr Collier's record, that I have made. It can't be refuted, it is an opinion, and as such is inviolate, just as your opinion, if you have one, on who you think the greatest player of all time, is. Six premierships, three B&Fs, I think, one Brownlow, one Leitch Medal when he went to play in Tasmania for more money (it was during the depression). Only one player has a better record, and that is Michael Tuck, with his seven premierships, but he could never be classed as the greatest. He was a great journeyman, a very consistent player for many years, part of an amazing club that had so much success. Personally, from those players I have actually seen play, I would go with Wayne Carey. Hope that clears it up for you.

fitzys the greatest of all time i reckon

Simon Goodwin, Nigel Smart, Andrew McLeod, Tony Modra, Darren Jarman and Tyson Edwards weren’t too shabby either.

thats a shout, bald eagle is legendary

Jordan De Goey robbed for pies imo

@@prodbyreed jordan degoing and jordan degone