The fans who had the "BoJack will kill himself by drowning" theory were PRETTY CLOSE. He certainly tried.

Theory- Beatrice chose the 8 gay dads to be hollyhocks adoptive parents just because butterscotch said “just don’t give it to some gay couple”

Sarah Lynn’s abuse isn’t a conspiracy theory; her mother once told her to stop making up stories about her step-dad, so I think it’s very clear that the abuse occurred

Theory: Vincent Adultman is 3 kids in a trench coat

Fan Theory: Bojack is the actor who plays The Horse from Horsin' Around.

Princess Caroline necklaces theory fall flat on its face when you consider that her mother wore the same necklaces and had like a bazillion child.

Sarah Lynn says in an episode " you are a father figure and were sexually inappropriate with me, and look at me! I turned out just fine!" when bojack was stressing about penny and the incident on the boat.

Just gotta clear this very important fact up, he wasn't actually reaching for Diane while underwater, he was just blocking his eyes from the helicopter light :)

Sarah Lynn's hypersexuality (prickly muffin etc) is also common with those who experienced abuse at a young age

If you think about Sarah Lynn being abused by her step dad, it shows why she is basically in love with Bojack. Not in the sense where they are lovers, although that did happen. But more like a father figure that can control her, and why every time Bojack interacted with her, her life began to fall apart. Makes you think of how much worse that situation is with context.

Oof seeing the “bojack kills himself” theory after seeing the second to last episode. Yeesh

IF BOJACK HORSEMAN ENDS WITH "WHY THE LONG FACE" IM GOING TO JUMP OUT OF MY WINDOW

I feel like the thing about Sarah Lynn's stepdad-bear is basically canon? Like, it's really obvious that writers are implicating that she was molested by her stepdad. As in, it's all but stated and you can't exactly call it a fan theory when it's the very clearly the idea the writers intend for you to get. Other than that one, good video!

In S3E11 Sarah Linn says in regards to Penny "She's probably in a sex chat-room with a middle aged horse because that's the only way she can still feel love." could be projecting her feelings towards and/or her potentially abusive step-dad onto to Penny.

I think the last line will be “are you the horse from horsin around?”

“Fan theory: Bojack will kill himself” I mean, he only talks about it and attempts every other episode

Alternative PC infertility theory: stress is what causes her to miscarry

PC miscarried first time (with the fox) before she wore the necklace. Most probably it's congenital. But PC deserves the world man.

I don’t think Bojack will kill himself because Bojack Horseman (the show) doesn’t really sensationalize that kind of stuff. I think one reason a lot of us like it is because it addresses mental illness in the exact opposite way Thirteen Reasons Why does/did. I think having Bojack kill himself as a finale would go against the way the show portrays depression and I know a few people (including me) would get a little angry over that

I think the drowning imagery is more of a metaphor for depression than a foreshadowing of a suicide

I don’t think Bojack reallu deserves to just have his past sins washed away. Like he tried to hook up with an underage girl, got high and choked his co-Star nearly to death and lead Sarah Lynn to her death. Like he should actually have to deal with that.

I don't see Bojack committing suicide. It's been hinted at, but Raphael Bob-Waksberg was very clear in one interview that Bojack cannot kill himself because it'd be too easy for both Bojack and for him as a writer. Bojack's arc is about growing as a person and trying to be better despite all the fuck-ups in between, not ending it when it looks rough or something bad happens. My money is on Mr. Peanutbutter via the highway to Hawaii he helped build through his governor race.

My personal theory is that the running baboon flat out tells us the show's arc for Bojack. He's been slowly making progress against his depression and narcissism as the series progresses. He stumbles but it gets a little easier for him to make the personal effort to become better each time. While season 5 had him crossing his worst line yet, he also responded by facing it.

Is it weird to like Sarah Lynn? I find her tragic yet lovable. I understand Bojacks plight.

I always thought Princess Carolyn being infertile is also kind of a reference to being a house cat / domesticated cat, which are almost always neutered. A lot of troubles in the animal characters lives have some connection to their species in a way that seems silly at first but is explored in a human way. Ah this show

Sugarman was Beatrice's maiden name, not Henrietta's. Henrietta's maiden name is Platchkey.

Sarah Lynn's stepdad literally being a pedobear kinda blew my mind ngl

Wish they'd bring back Judah 💔

Bring back Vincent Adultman

Nerdwire and Bojack? What is this, a crossover episode?

Its interesting how Sarah Lynn's outfit look as she meantions the fur

Caroline's necklace was never passed down thru generations. Her mom stole it from the fox family while cleaning. Caroline made up the story herself and her mom went ahead and let her believe it.

Fan theory: Mr Peanutbutter was right all along... It WAS a crossover episode!

When watching Bojack Horseman the first time i expected something that is like rick and morty. I was actually suprised when i realized that its actually a deep show and i had a lot of fun watching it.

"Reaching out to diane" that's not even close he was just covering his eyes from the bright helicopter light

I think in the end, bojack will realize that his depression will never go away, so he just lives with it but learns how to not be destructive. I imagine the ending will be him having a horrible day. He then drives to a bar, but decides at the last second to not go in, and instead he goes to a friends house to talk about it. Bojack's life still gets miserable, but now he knows how to deal with it.

More evidence to go with the "Bojack will kill himself" theory: It's mentioned throughout the whole show that nothing can have an end because it will always keep going. In the episode "Downer Ending" Todd and Sarah Lynn are helping Bojack write his book and they come to a conclusion that the book can't end until Bojack's story ends and the only way for it to end is if he died. This could be hinting that the show can't end unless Bojack dies. Even though the show focuses on many characters, it's his show. It's called "Bojack Horseman" after all.

The story of BoJack Horseman is the story of innocence and its corruption. He longs for his corny, wholesome kids' show where he could role model the wholesome family values he never saw in his corrosive childhood. He idolizes his hero, whose story is a simple one of rising above hard circumstances to make something worthy of oneself, because he feels fundamentally unworthy. He's first attracted to Diane when he sees her vulnerability. He loves Sarah Lynn because of the innocent child she represents. He takes advantage of his friend's daughter because she reminds him of the innocence her mother once had. BoJack's primary conflict is between his need for love and his longing for the innocence he never felt in himself. Often he turns away the people who need him when they're most vulnerable, in pursuit of the love of crowds. Or, as with Sarah Lynn, he has the chance to connect with the most innocent part of someone but ends up hurting them by inappropriately bringing his need for love into the situation, along with all his self-destructive emotions, behavior, drug abuse, and sexuality which all ironically stem from his need for love and disconnection from innocence. He's desperately lonely but so afraid of hurting people that he walls himself off with drugs, emotionally unavailable relationships, and the trappings of bygone fame. Until he lets down his guard, only to hurt someone again, starting the cycle over. It's reasonable that the series will end when he just gives up, too tired of hurting others, out of hope that he can change, that he can ever be close to innocence without his blackened and tainted soul smothering the very thing he loves the most. BoJack is a toxin, his own innocence so thoroughly corrupted that mere association taints the lives of others. He's not a villain, but he's certainly not a hero, just too broken to salvage. The mistakes he's made, and will continue to make, are too severe to justify with his own pathological needs. I think it's fitting that the series will end when he simply decides to stop treading water only to poison the shores. Either he'll kill himself to end his suffering and his trail of destruction or he won't have the courage, and will just choose not to live when the opportunity arises. No drama, no glorification, just a man whose sad life and sad choices have led to a sad, lonely end in a world where good intentions don't always matter and things don't always get better. The show does an excellent job of not pulling its punches and showing the bare, horrible, tragic realities of life in a way that's both respectful and unapologetic. A lot of people are upset by the idea that BoJack will end his own life, as if it's an overdramatic cop-out by the series. But suicide, tragic as it is, is a reality. Just because other shows have done a bad job of portraying it with the respect and seriousness it deserves doesn't mean this one can't. Perhaps some people are also employing wishful thinking; they hope to see an all-too-cliché tale of redemption. Maybe they're afraid of what it says for their own lives, that they might not defeat their own demons in the end. But really, it's a fitting way to wrap up the story. That isn't to say that suicide is the right thing for the character to do, just that it's fitting narratively. His death itself will be shown to cause harm, to hurt the people who cared about him in life, one last attempt to save his loved ones from himself that ultimately ends up being selfish. But at the same time, the name BoJack Horseman will quickly vanish from tongues, just another Hollywoo has-been washed away by the tides. Just my 2¢

Also in free churro he said both him and his parents knew what it was like to feel your entire life like your drowning.

I really hope they don't try to kill off Diane.

KZfaq gave me a mid-break commercial for a horse vitamin...lol

Back in the 90s I was in a very famous tv show

Doesn’t Sarah Lynn overdose right after hearing her step dad asking her to come home on the tv? I don’t think the mom ever left him, however they could still be split and the bear was feeling remorseful or guilty. Her mom isn’t mentioned a lot either. Clearly wasn’t around for her

Bojack flipping the godamn baby carriage and booking it out of there, just caused the most innapropriate laugh to come out of me after that Princess Carolyn theory.

Sarah Lynn and her step father is definitely something they should shed more light on...

Sarah Lynne WAS sexualy abused by her step dad ! In the season where bojack is going to the AA and see sharona he remember about a time when he was in horsing around. Sarah Lynne was getting her hair cut by sharona and bojack was getting upset to wait for his hair cut. Then he asked to Sarah Lynne "why are you in my dressing room and not in your own ?" And sarah Lynne was looking so uncomfortable and said "I can't... My step-dad is in my dressing room and he's weird". So with this answer you can defenitly know now Sarah Lynne was sexualy abused by her step-father.

What I don’t understand is your outfit. Is it one or two pieces What’s that knot for Do you hang it or fold it So confused

i love princess carolyn i root for her everytime she has her own episode

so john mulaney’s gonna kill diane? 🤔

I was depressed when they killed off Sarah she was literally my favorite character besides Bojack and they killed her off

Well I was pretty damn sure Sarah Lynn was an abuse victim, I couldn't even imagine it was just a theory.... I thought the writers wanted us to understand that by those scenes.

the drowning theory is so funny now

This aged like fine wine

11:05 In Gina's musical number near the end of season 5, all actors look at her, for a few frames, while Sarah Lynn and Diane don't...

um you didnt mention the whole episode that took place underwater..... edit: you can even contest that episode took place in hell? or just personal hell.

Here now after bojack drowned himself... or tried to lmao, I though it was perfectly fit ending for him though. Hit really deep.

Turns out they weren't so wrong with the drowning incident at least Bojack survived

Drowning theory = confirmed

don't forget in season 5 he described his and his parents' life together as all of them drowning

8:58 - “PedoBear...” OMFG. How did I not connect this to that ancient meme?!?

k but if the necklace had been passed down for generations, but caused lead poisoning, how did princess carolyns mother have princess carolyn?

The best theory I heard was that Vincent Adultman is a totally normal man and Bojack is the only person who perceived him as 3 kids. His brain makes Vincent look like that because as he said he doesn’t like the fact that she’s dating someone and he can’t just go back to her.

Sarah Lynn also says the reason why she can't go into her own trailer is because "my stepdad is in there and he's being weird again" (season 6, episode 1 or 2 I think) that's why she was getting her hair done in BoJacks trailer. Super sad because she was 10 at the time she said it.

The idea for the show came from the old a horse walks into a bar joke. I'm pretty sure that's been said by the creators

I have a theory: this film takes place in the same fictional universe as Warner Bros. 1997 animated film, Cats Don't Dance

Here’s my question. Why does hollyhock have a diamond between her eyes like bojack and Beatrice? Hollyhock comes from bojacks fathers side (who has a stripe down his nose) not his mother’s side.

10:32 " Sugarman, Henretta's maiden name." Excuse me?? That skank was the MAID.

"if the studio wants to sue me, tell them they can take my house"

Poor Princess Caroline. I think Bojack will become self-actualized and it'll be meaningful. I'm an optimist

Sharah Lynn is definitely abused we got a big evidence in season 6 flash back when Bojack asks she why she isn't in her trailer and she responds ((My Stepdads there and he is being wierd)) I think Sarah Lynn deserves a spinoff

i never cried so hard to a show.

Bojack swimming out to the water when he’s too tired to swim back is a reference to The Awakening

Fan theory: after serving his time in prison, Bojack finds himself a new man, and gets a job as the voice actor for Reese’s advertisements.

woah bojack looks just like that dude from horsin’ around

How the theories stand in 2022 (SPOILERS AHEAD): 1. Not likely (PC's mom had a ton of kids, and all those symptoms happen when lead is ingested) 2. Didn't Happen, although it kinda would've been funny 3. Almost happened (almost drowned in his pool after breaking into his old house drunk and taking drugs) 4. Basically confirmed (Well, not outright, but is heavily implied) 5. IDK. 6. Not even close. She didn't even come close.

PC was the runt of the litter, I just assumed that because she was the runt her body wouldn’t be as well developed, leading to a weaker body and assumed she miscarried because her body just wasn’t able to handle a child like that.

Him flipping the baby stroller and panicking will always kill me

Omg, I love the horse walks into a bar sopranos theory is genius 😂

I really hope Diane doesn’t die. She my favorite character because she has gone through a lot and deserves better. 🤧🤧

Bojack is clearly not reaching for Diane, tf

Less than 2 minutes in AND SOMEONE STARTS CUTTING ONIONS

Considering how the series ended, these theories had 20/20 vision

(Mini spoiler) I just saw season 6 and the sara lynn father is like 90% confirm

My theory is that princess Carolyn was actually dating 3 small boys wearing a trench coat and pretending to be one man

It just . works

I dont know if the necklace Is made of lead. I absolutely love the idea but lead seems too heavy to work as a necklace. I dont know the history of lead jewelry.

Hollyhock was a character in a comic strip who was always wanting a horse, fantasizing about having a horse, etc. That's where I think they got the name from. Priscilla's Pop. Look it up.

I got a Reese's ad with Will Arnett narrating!

Mr peanutbutter is gonna kill himself

Sarah Lynn once said something about her step dad being weird again.

Wow, man.. Your narration is fantastic. So well rounded and objective.

How is Sara Lynn being abused by her step father a theory? That is extremely implied, to the point that it would be a theory Peggy Hill "came up with" if she watched the show

I always thought it was just straight up a known fact sarah lynn was abused

Wow depression does feel like drowning

The scene that starts at 6:00 is actually a nearly direct reference to the ending of Kate Chopin's "The Awakening" where the main character Edna swims out to sea knowing full well her old body isn't strong enough to bring her back to shore.

Thanks for linking all the reddit posts that u read out in this video. Esp helpful when you told us to read that one list of drowning allusions👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

I think the show building up for a #metoo like scandal that will end with bojack getting outed as a rapist. In this theory the whole show has been about "Hollywoo" rape culture the whole time, but its seen from the point of view of a Bill Cosby like figure (Bojack Horseman). 1. Bojack got famous by being in a family friendly sitcom, winning him friendly household image around the world, even though in reality he's the opposite of the character he played. The world loved his public persona but they don't know what he's actually like. A similar problem with other celebrities. 2. Bojack is a womanizer who usually dates girls way younger them him. The only age Appropriate girlfriend that he has had so far had been in a coma since the 80s, giving her the mentality of a 20 something year old. 3. Hollywoo normalizes abuse against women. They cover up for bojack and at least 2 other celebrities(Hank Hippo and Vance) to protect their brand, in ways that are similar to how the entertainment world coverd up Weinstein, Spacy, Cosby and R. Kelly. Diane seems to be the only one who takes a stands against this, but even her now ex-husband Mr. Peanut butter only dates girls in their 20s who are easier to manipulate, thus he's also normalizing sketchy behavior. 4. In season 1 Bojack sleeps with Sarah Lynne, who played his six year old daughter on his show, making him a father figure to her. Its played for laughs in season 1 but that's part of the point. Just like how most people laughed at first at the idea of someone like of Cosby being a creep the show also plays up bojack bad behavior for laughs. It's a representation of how people usually react when they first see red flags of a beloved celebrity having a more sinister side. As the show goes on we get to see the not so funny Consequences that bojack actions have on Sarah Lynne. Which lead to her tragic death. She needed help and bojack took advantage of her. In real life, there's nothing funny about that. 5. BoJack idolizes Secretariat who just like him, had a great public image that all came crashing down when his darkest secrets were exposed. 5 season's in and Bojack has a lot of dark secrets of his own that only a few know about, but we might not know them all. 6. The show has made a couple nodes to #metoo. Such as Hank Hippo covering up allegations against him. Vance still working in Hollywoo inspite abusing his family. Bojack Image consultant covering up the recording of him admitting what he did with Penny. Diane debating with bojack if his detective show is normalizing bad behavior. Bojack almost sleeping with penny and then stalking her in college. Bojack assaulting Gina and then Gina somehow being afraid if word about the incident gets out it would destroy "her" career instead of his. . 7. Bojack keeps saying that people start off loving him but as they learn more about him the more they hate him. He also might be talking about us the audience as we learn more about him. Could it be that there is something we dont know about? Is something going to be revealed that would cause us to hate his character? 8. When Diane confronts Bojack about penny at some point in their conversation he's lists other girls that he would also have to apologize too. Implying that penny's not the only girl that bojack crossed a serious line with and also suggesting that he has been keeping other dark secrets from us. 9. When bojack trying to figure out who Hollyhocks mom is, we learn that he slept with the president of his fan club, (which could be a references to Elvis who gropped the teenage president of his fan club) he pressured many women into getting abortions and almost all of the women he slept with hate his guts now.......why? 10. Bojack is a master manipulator. In season 1 he sabotaged Todd's dream of writing a hit rock opera and gas lighted Todd into thinking it was his fault. He dillbertly lost the charity money in Mr. Peanutbutter gameshow out of spite. He plays with the emotions of Princess Caroline, Charlotte, Wanda, and even Diane. When every hes confounted about his behavior he often plays victim and gets us to feel sorry for him. In fact every season ends looking like hes going to change, but instead he keeps sinking lower and was just manipulating us. 11. Bojack can't control his sexual ergers around women. He kisses Daine when she was engage to Mr. Peanutbutter. He try to break up Charlotte's marriage out of impulse and shorty afterwards almost sleeps with her underage daughter. He sleeps with Todd's girlfriend Emily, who is also young enough to be his daughter, thus destroying his friendship with Todd. He sleeps with Sarah Lynne who played his daughter in his show during her mental breakdown. 12. When bojack confess his sins to the manatee he saids a part of him thinks he wouldn't sleep with penny but another part of him knows that's a "lie". At first we interpreted this to mean he felt remorse for almost sleeping with a teenager, but it might be he felt more remorse for almost sleeping with Charlotte daughter and what he really means by "lie" is that he already has slept with other teenage girls. 13. After Bojack breaks Wanda's heart she saids: "When you look at someone with rose colored windows, all the red flags just look like flags". This could also be a comment on us, the audience, seeing bojack bad behavior in Either a humorous or sympathetic light. When in reality he's a horrible person and some of his bad behavior are really warning signs to how bad he is that we didn't take seriously. 14. In Gina song, there's a moment where bojack is watching cartoonish drawings of himself doing horrible things from his past. You see him stealing the doll from his mom, the time he almost slept with penny and him stealing the D in Hollywood. But if you pause, you'll also notice an image of bojack dressed as his character from Horsing Around(implying that's its from the time of the show). He's with a depressed looking woman in lingerie who's looking away from him in a sad posture. Bojack has a very guilty look on his face. Could this be another person that he hurt and will be revealed to be one of his victims that we have yet to learn about? 15. In the shows intro, bojack is seen drowning in a pool. Drowning is used as a metaphor through out the show for Bojack misery and decline in life. But he's not alone in the pool. At least 2 other young women are swimming with him. Possibly their a metaphor for brojack drowning in his own sexual deviancy. A Helicopter can be seen over a Diane and Mr. Peanut butter as they looked down on BoJack in shock. Could it be a polic helicopter coming to arrest Bojack after he's been outed? Edit: I think the show will end with Charlotte making good on her promise to "kill" bojack but she'll do it in a different way then we expected. I think it will be revealed that since bojack try to see penny at her school, Charlotte has been trying to get the word out that Bojack is a pervert but powers in hollywoo have kept her story silent much like they did for Hank Hippo, Vance and Bojack himself. Eventually Charlotte will find the other women bojack has hurt, such as Wanda, Gina and bunch of other that we dont know about yet. Charlotte movement will get Ana to reveal the recording of bojacks confession, and miss gecko will reveal the photos of bojack affair with Sarah Lynn. Charlotte will bring them all together to take down Bojack, revealing to the world what he almost did to Penny, his affair with Sarah Lynn, and we will learn that has done even worse things to other girls that we never knew about. All this will "kill" bojacks career.

Dianne will die, it'll be Bojack's fault, and it'll push Bojack over the edge. Either there will be plenty of people around when he kills himself, or no one will be there to stop him. "The chanting don't lie." As for not wanting Bojack to drown, tough. Just because people connect with him doesn't mean that Bojack can just magically make things right. He's burnt a lot of bridges, and Dianne realizes this. "how do you make something right when you've made it so wrong you can never go back?" If you're not ready for that, I don't think you knew what you signed up for. This is Bojack, after all, and the writing's on the wall. Bojack is the embodiment of what me must shed in order to take care of ourselves.

This video aged so well. Love your channel!

8:55 Hold on a second. Bear. Pedophile Bear. Pedobear. This theory just got upgraded from "plausible" to "Holly fuck its such a perfect dark joke, it has to be true"