The Best Clutch Money Can Buy? XClutch Twin Disc

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Күн бұрын

We recently noticed a new clutch brand to us that's been gaining popularity in the time attack crowd. In this video Mike takes a look at the XClutch twin disc clutch we're going to be giving a try in our Project Subaru STI!
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@pablorages1241
@pablorages1241 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help liking this guy ... maybe because he always looks like he's about to smile ... I hope he is a nice guy IRL
@angeloah
@angeloah Жыл бұрын
Dude is hella cool, he works with Dai a lot if you watch his thunder hill video and others. He’s a master chef too ;) A goat of the car industry for sure.
@dwilliamson7286
@dwilliamson7286 Жыл бұрын
He sounds like the kind of guy to share his beer cooler with you at the cookout and treat you like one of the guys even though you just met.
@Slipperypuffin
@Slipperypuffin Жыл бұрын
He always looks like he just cut a big fart and is waiting for you to smell it
@EckoLife510
@EckoLife510 Жыл бұрын
He's actually a modern day Samurai
@klenmclark
@klenmclark Жыл бұрын
hes a customer of mine funnily enough and hes wonderful
@2iBMX
@2iBMX 2 жыл бұрын
Not only is Mike passionate about these cars and parts... he explains so well why and how they work.
@n_fifty_fire
@n_fifty_fire 11 ай бұрын
I just purchased one this morning and 10 seconds later thought to myself, “what have I done?”😰 …then I remembered this video and came back to watch it. All of my worries are gone. Thank you😎
@Andrew49683
@Andrew49683 4 ай бұрын
How’s it holding up?
@shawnsquires2716
@shawnsquires2716 Ай бұрын
how is it? I have heard that lightweight flywheels make launching hard
@davidf7rt
@davidf7rt 2 жыл бұрын
The way Mike speaks, makes you feel the need to buy every part he is showing you. The best sales man.
@malcolmduncan3047
@malcolmduncan3047 25 күн бұрын
At 8:49 the undercut for the drive dog is there to act as stress relief. If there was just a square corner, this is where a crack is likely to propagate from, ultimately causing failure of the intermediate plate.
@PhilKyle
@PhilKyle 23 сағат бұрын
It’s his cadence , very soothing.
@alikovacevic
@alikovacevic Жыл бұрын
This guy just answers any car questions I have. I search up a question about any part or an engine and MotoIQ comes up and 100% of my questions are answered lmao.
@BLoudermilk
@BLoudermilk Жыл бұрын
Every video on this channel is a jaw dropping display of knowledge and passion. Thank you for sharing your content freely with all the gearheads out there!
@cherstonwarner2187
@cherstonwarner2187 2 жыл бұрын
Love your product reviews Mike. Thank you for your insights!
@marcushughan5668
@marcushughan5668 2 жыл бұрын
Super under-rated channel, love the depth of the technical explanations
@FelixTay69
@FelixTay69 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just here to listen to you talk. Is so soothing and comforting.
@tactiletinkerer
@tactiletinkerer Жыл бұрын
Nice -- multi-plate clutch fibres and steels have been used on motorcycle clutches for years, specifically for the reasons Mike likes this XClutch twin-disc. If you look at the individual plates on say, a Hayabusa, tiny compared to an automotive performance application... but they're also 8 fibres and 7 steels to share transmitting that torque.... love this content, keep it going Mike 👍
@Brandondrumkc
@Brandondrumkc 2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video!! I know a clutch is going to be in my near future and this looks like a pretty solid option. Thanks for sharing!
@Star_Taro
@Star_Taro 2 жыл бұрын
Love this guy. I could listen to him even talking about dirt all day. He has true passion, he makes it very interesting.
@htthepunk
@htthepunk 2 жыл бұрын
Great content as always!
@graver80
@graver80 Жыл бұрын
excellent video, very informative.
@erikg.4217
@erikg.4217 Жыл бұрын
I love this man! He's brilliant, and mellow at the same time. BRAVO!
@alfisback2372
@alfisback2372 Жыл бұрын
Love the content. Keep up the amazing work 👍👍
@bradleehill9662
@bradleehill9662 2 жыл бұрын
You and dominic acia are my two go to guys for subaru knowledge cantbwait for more videos thanks for helping spread this knowledge
@vernonheine5476
@vernonheine5476 Ай бұрын
Thx , helping me inprove my skills
@Ws98475
@Ws98475 2 жыл бұрын
appreciate the effort and thought in putting this video together. it fleshed out what is involved with these types of builds and how a reputable builder would be thinking through a client request(or how someone would hope a reputable builder is thinking through their request). Also appreciated the confirmation on consulting. Once i landed on a builder(i'm in the Northeast), i was wondering if requesting a consulting session is something that is or can be done to talk through a potential build(for a cost) and if those cost could go toward eventual build. While every shop may be different, it was good to see this is not an uncommon practice. If I may make a recommendation, it would be a great to see a follow up video reviewing what a customer should look for and be prepared to discuss when "interviewing' potential builders and what they should be prepared for(a consulting fee...shops worked hard for that knowledge). An educated customer, is a happy customer and a good customer. Thank you again for this vid. great stuff...it's unfortunate MotoIQ is a bit of a drive for me.
@fredc5461
@fredc5461 Жыл бұрын
I found this gentleman to be very informative and one of the best presenters I've ever seen. I go back time and time again to look at his tutorials and the gain his wisdom
@iAmFAUST
@iAmFAUST 3 ай бұрын
Love this, thank you!
@maverick2242
@maverick2242 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, I will be checking these out, cheers
@ryandee4255
@ryandee4255 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike and Motoiq. Always enjoy the in-depth knowledge you’re sharing.
@jayman3185
@jayman3185 4 ай бұрын
Quick note: didn't realize this vid was 2 years old! Everything I said still stands tho ^.^ fantastic educational video. Came here trying to research chromoly vs alloy for my mazdadspeed 3 build. I got just that but so much more! I learned a ton about clutches in general from you, everything you said made sense to me ; I can perform basic maintenance but anything else I'm potato brained. Definitely subscribed! ^.^ keep it up my guy.
@m.m8760
@m.m8760 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is the best. Always buttery smooth delivery and easy to listen to.
@warrenlucier5796
@warrenlucier5796 Ай бұрын
That looks like a really well thought out twin disc clutch.
@HarleySLA
@HarleySLA 9 ай бұрын
Can I just come hang out with Mike and listen to his wisdom for a week? I'd turn wrenches for his wealth of knowledge. Seriously.
@RDGarage
@RDGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Love your content so much!! This will help me out with the hatchie. ;)
@luisbalderrama8145
@luisbalderrama8145 2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic content. Please keep it up. I really dig the energy you deliver when dropping knowledge on us. Stay Safe, -Luis
@TripleTapHK
@TripleTapHK Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I didn't know about pull type throw out bearings. I wonder if that would help mitigate the higher thrust bearing wear from heavier diaphragm springs.
@KahunaOz
@KahunaOz Ай бұрын
I’ve been running Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch (pn# DF749834) on my 307whp BRZ for 2 years, it’s quite awesome.
@motoiq
@motoiq Ай бұрын
That is a great clutch for lower power applications like yours, one of our favorites.
@KahunaOz
@KahunaOz Ай бұрын
@@motoiq Thanks! That is high praise coming from you!
@danny79045
@danny79045 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I love seein all them cars in the back ground 300z Sentra teggy old school maxima rsx bmw tryin to see if that’s a 89 accord baige color
@tnyce616
@tnyce616 10 ай бұрын
I bought this clutch because of you, and I can honestly say, thank you!!! Also I’ve rewatched this video over a dozen times, and it never gets old ❤
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@ivedonedidit
@ivedonedidit 2 жыл бұрын
This video is the reason I bought this clutch
@NullisNaN
@NullisNaN 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Keep up the tech content!
@chrispulay9788
@chrispulay9788 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@BrycenKauai
@BrycenKauai 2 жыл бұрын
always the best content!
@Javierm0n0
@Javierm0n0 2 жыл бұрын
this thing is beautiful! Definitely gotta keep them in mind.
@nushi-ching852
@nushi-ching852 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this guy is GREAT! Keep it up
@angeloah
@angeloah Жыл бұрын
He is a car industry goat, and not a jerk about knowing more about how a car works then anyone I know. His realness comes through in that smile. Embarrassed or whatever to be on camera shows he a cool human.
@KP18793
@KP18793 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite channel on KZfaq.
@nushi-ching852
@nushi-ching852 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to his voice/this video when falling asleep at night, he has an interesting doctor/mechanic voice
@Fitness195
@Fitness195 2 жыл бұрын
Good guy, good content, keep it coming
@LuRyLaMa
@LuRyLaMa 2 жыл бұрын
I have the push type version that XClutch makes and i love it... Hella Chatter though but piece off mind of not having a weak clutch is key. I bet this pull design produces a lot less chatter.
@Persocondes
@Persocondes Жыл бұрын
i Smashed that like button! shared and commented for the algorithm !
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 2 жыл бұрын
"Annoying to drive slowly like on the highway" Must be a Cali thing 😂
@luisbalderrama8145
@luisbalderrama8145 2 жыл бұрын
From Cali, can confirm lol. Either that, or when you are so used to going triple digits, going 65 seems like a crawl. Both of which are funny to consider.
@Edison73100
@Edison73100 2 жыл бұрын
Stop and go freeway traffic, anywhere....
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edison73100 lol I Kno I'm messing around
@Cutlazz
@Cutlazz Жыл бұрын
Great video
@xxbeejay45xx
@xxbeejay45xx 8 ай бұрын
Uncle you made me buy this clutch after this video! Thank you so much 🤙🏽
@motoiq
@motoiq 8 ай бұрын
You will like it!
@loudmikemedia
@loudmikemedia 2 жыл бұрын
another calming video
@adandredestefano
@adandredestefano Жыл бұрын
I'm going to need one of these when I build my Factory 5 818.
@Jays22b
@Jays22b Жыл бұрын
ORC dual plate is same thing, I luv it. 400hp 670nm and it is super strong, Using carbon fibre syncro's in my setup and moded shifters, dont know if that makes it different
@pattisonvidal3909
@pattisonvidal3909 Жыл бұрын
I can listen to him for days
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 2 жыл бұрын
Dang I’ve got that clutch! It’s sorta heavy.. but can definitely handle the power and is super smooth. It’s also amazing for launches, I can use the clutch to determine how much wheel spin I have depending on how fast I let it out and how much rpm I set my launch control to. Makes for a perfect launch every single time no joke.
@andypacmanperez
@andypacmanperez 2 жыл бұрын
How much power are you making? I just smoked my Act stage 2 after a year 🙃 cannot handle the launches apparently. I'm around 400whp and I also semi-daily the car
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 2 жыл бұрын
@@andypacmanperez 510whp on low boost right now
@donovanguerrero7489
@donovanguerrero7489 2 жыл бұрын
What model of xclutch do you have/is in this video?
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 2 жыл бұрын
Twin disc organic, can’t remember what stage it is
@daniellib32
@daniellib32 Жыл бұрын
@@zokusharuuku1091 how's the noise?
@TheDrAkira
@TheDrAkira Жыл бұрын
I can't stop seeing videos from this guy!!! And now I want a 800hp Subaru STI for some reason... hahahahhha!
@dorianleclair7390
@dorianleclair7390 Жыл бұрын
That's a sweet lookin clutch
@jredmartinz
@jredmartinz 2 жыл бұрын
Great content
@islandtrooper4x432
@islandtrooper4x432 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike much respect
@indopleaser
@indopleaser 2 жыл бұрын
great video. enjoy high tech
@alejandrobonfiglio506
@alejandrobonfiglio506 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos lots of OG's don't share this type of knowledge freely although I guess they still make something off these vids
@THESHADOW97139
@THESHADOW97139 2 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup, pour le partage !!!
@Babybluem2
@Babybluem2 2 ай бұрын
Hey Mike, I love your channel. Would you still recommend this clutch? I have a BMW M2 with about 685whp and am in need of a new clutch. Thank you so much!
@motoiq
@motoiq 2 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely
@drunk3n_m0nk12
@drunk3n_m0nk12 5 ай бұрын
I just bought one of these to replace an Exedy twin disc with a broken spring after only 8k miles. I can't wait to see the difference. Also can't wait to get 1st and reverse back...
@Andrew49683
@Andrew49683 4 ай бұрын
Have you installed it yet? I’m looking at getting one as well
@drunk3n_m0nk12
@drunk3n_m0nk12 4 ай бұрын
@@Andrew49683 Not yet. I'm planning on racing at IFO next month so I should have it in by then. I'll report back.
@mrpibbsdotcom
@mrpibbsdotcom 2 жыл бұрын
Mike sounds like he used to hang out with Jeff Spicoli. This and his happy demeanour make these a great watch.
@creator4413
@creator4413 Жыл бұрын
Ah man few parts make me more excited to think about adding to my build as a twin disk clutch
@HollywoodCod
@HollywoodCod 2 жыл бұрын
Well explained
@rustyshackleford81
@rustyshackleford81 Жыл бұрын
What's the word on rebuilding or replacing clutch disks on this in the future? I don't see any parts support online. Thoughts on this?
@HondaWagovan
@HondaWagovan 2 жыл бұрын
Super heavy clutches also put extra wear upon the firewall and other parts that interact with the clutch, like clutch fork, pedal box. I know this because I had a stage 2 cermetallic three puck clutch, worst idea ever. I broke some weld points on my firewall, cracked the torque tube on the pedal box assembly, bent my clutch fork, popped the slave and master clutch cylinder on my 2010 WRX. I think the only good thing to come from that was I learned how to install a dash, and clutch system into the car, along with some added bracing.
@motoiq
@motoiq 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention your crank thrust bearing.
@xpeacemaster
@xpeacemaster 2 жыл бұрын
I've read thats why you match it to the power you are making, any extra grip ends up breaking stuff way faster. I'd also go as far as saying those platforms are crap too, I know 3 guys with 4 blown motors between them. One guy's brand new oem replacement from Subaru developed rod knock breaking it on on the freeway on the way back from the dealer.
@HondaWagovan
@HondaWagovan 2 жыл бұрын
@@xpeacemaster Yes you match your clutch to the torque you are making but when your power requirements require a very high effort clutch is will put lots of stress on the above parts of the clutch system I mentions and the thrust bearings. You will need to upgrade all of the above and add bracing to your firewall unless you like your firewall popping and making all sort of unpleasant sounds. And most people that make moderate gains often ignore all the supporting clutch upgrades. I learned this lesson the hard way and preach not making much power unless you can afford the other parts.
@RF-zn8xx
@RF-zn8xx 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a common problem on wrx and sti from 08-14. Cost me 1500
@xpeacemaster
@xpeacemaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@RF-zn8xx they straight up are hoon-worthy out of the box, no oil pan baffle, and they have oil pumps that can't even keep up with spirited driving. I wanted an sti for a few years until I read enough on NASIOC. Then theres the bearings and tolerances that lead everyone to eventually doing a full rebuild at some point. They do sound nice though lol. They aren't as bad as every bmw motor made after the s54 though, but bad enough to be in the conversation.
@erniejoel1234
@erniejoel1234 Жыл бұрын
Is that a B13 SE-R in the back? God iloved those cars. I wish i could find an hnmolested one these days.
@Chitown388
@Chitown388 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, thanks MotoIQ! Does XClutch make one for the Porsche 987.1 Cayman S?
@motoiq
@motoiq 2 жыл бұрын
www.xclutchusa.com/
@snuggleseal
@snuggleseal Жыл бұрын
this will be my next clutch on my Evo 6, thank you!
@Tony-ib2vm
@Tony-ib2vm Жыл бұрын
If you're this far in, you have a junk trans or can find one. Cutting the splined portion off of the input shaft is another way to get a metal alignment tool...
@morganlawless2714
@morganlawless2714 9 ай бұрын
Pretty sweet
@lstnlne7399
@lstnlne7399 2 жыл бұрын
great info- 2019 gt mustang listened too you- install in progress-ty
@jeffarchibald3837
@jeffarchibald3837 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing revolutionary about this clutch, but very clever combination of all existing designs. Clearly very high quality and terrific attention to detail. Kudos. Just wish it was not a gaudy color.
@rivalautosport9228
@rivalautosport9228 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing about the "undercuts" on the floater disc is......it literally may just be the easiest way to machine the ears onto the disc when the end mill (tool used for side cutting in maching) cuts the ears, so that there's no interference from any chamfers between the floater and the flywheel. Usually the "undercuts" are called "Mickey Mouse ears".
@shamwaymoonyos9578
@shamwaymoonyos9578 11 ай бұрын
One thing I learned is that the metal alignment tool avoids all that "fiddle farting" :)
@martingregor6718
@martingregor6718 2 жыл бұрын
Love this guy
@MustangGuru
@MustangGuru Жыл бұрын
Where does the engagement start in the peddle range?
@pablopereira7665
@pablopereira7665 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, thx for the informative video, do you know if Xclutch make one for BMW 335i ? i know there are a single F/wheel OEM replacement (duble F/wheel) which allows for more HP but its very noise at Idle. Tx in advance
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Go to their website.
@javi_335i
@javi_335i 2 жыл бұрын
Just got mine installed on my N54 335i. Breaking it in for now👍🏽
@RickySlickk
@RickySlickk Жыл бұрын
How do you like it? Any extra pedal feel? Any noise or chatter?
@javi_335i
@javi_335i Жыл бұрын
@@RickySlickk almost a year later. It started slipping in 6th gear today 😢
@RickySlickk
@RickySlickk Жыл бұрын
@@javi_335i Oo damn :/ Sorry bro. I think after some research, I feel comfortable going with clutch masters fx250
@javi_335i
@javi_335i Жыл бұрын
@@RickySlickk how do you like the clutch? What flywheel did you use? How much HP does it Handle?
@RickySlickk
@RickySlickk Жыл бұрын
@@javi_335i haven’t pulled the trigger on it yet. I’m N/A and their fx250 is basically a street clutch. Assuming you’re pushing big boost they have different applications for your needs. For the flywheel I’m thinking JB racing
@austinwarren6842
@austinwarren6842 9 ай бұрын
Bout ready to use my ACT clutch as a damn frisbee...
@Dextahmane
@Dextahmane Жыл бұрын
That Blue B13 is making me miss mine...
@pafsrh4744
@pafsrh4744 7 ай бұрын
awesome
@YoungBudPRODUCTION
@YoungBudPRODUCTION 2 жыл бұрын
mike keep this going :)
@anotherstar8125
@anotherstar8125 9 ай бұрын
what's a good replacement for a stock 2018 STI?.. looking for something to replace my daily driven STI.
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
OEM stock
@Raheelkhan1999
@Raheelkhan1999 2 ай бұрын
How does this compare to the newer clutch masters 850 Strapped Series Twin Disc Clutch? Their "strapped" series has the same feature preventing the rattling noise.
@motoiq
@motoiq 2 ай бұрын
Haven't tested it but had previous good experiences with Clutch Masters in general.
@Raheelkhan1999
@Raheelkhan1999 2 ай бұрын
​@@motoiqI'd love to watch you guys do a review regarding the clutch masters strapped series street twin disc clutch
@doubletee4391
@doubletee4391 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the perfect clutch. now put it in the Sti and let us hear it. Also interested on short term impressions. Specifically how a 11lb flywheel does in a heavy awd, high torque car. My Sti has a 15lb flywheel and i have to be very mindful on hills to burn it to the ground achieving enough rpm to get going.
@motoiq
@motoiq 2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@dankcincy
@dankcincy 2 жыл бұрын
The flywheel may be 11lbs bit the 3xtra heft of the clutch more than makes up for it I'm sure.
@TheGCJourney
@TheGCJourney Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm just looking to replace my noisy, twin plate clutch in my Subaru and this looks to be a great option! Do you have the part number for it?
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
This clutch makes a slight chatter but way less than your typical twin disc.
@TheGCJourney
@TheGCJourney Жыл бұрын
@@motoiq To be honest, the noise doesn’t bother me so much as the drive-ability. The ceramic clutch is a nightmare for stop\start traffic
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
this clutch is almost as smooth as OEM, just slightly more pedal pressure.
@scarfacex17
@scarfacex17 4 ай бұрын
Would this be a good clutch for an STI on a Stage 2 working on trying to reach 400whp next with turbo and fueling upgrades coming next!
@motoiq
@motoiq 4 ай бұрын
Probably overkill, this clutch is designed for around 500 plus hp.
@scarfacex17
@scarfacex17 4 ай бұрын
@@motoiq got it! I was going with the mindset of rather overbuild then underbuild when it comes to power levels I appreciate the honest answer!
@user-ki8zf1rp1e
@user-ki8zf1rp1e 10 ай бұрын
What's your experience been like with this clutch on track? I'm looking for a replacement clutch for my evo x and it's been between this and the exedy twin disc ceramic. I also looked at McLeod Mag Force SE but they only seem to make it for evo 8/9. Only do about 5 track days a year.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
This clutch is perfect for that, very streetable but it's been holding over 500 ft lbs on our STI for over a year no problem.
@user-ki8zf1rp1e
@user-ki8zf1rp1e 10 ай бұрын
@@motoiq Thank you for the feedback! Really appreciate the knowledge you guys at motoiq share with the community.
@corvettefever360
@corvettefever360 6 ай бұрын
C4 Corvette with ZF6 have a pull type. Oh & 1st gen Dodge Vipers
@fretit5771
@fretit5771 Жыл бұрын
coud this be a good alternativ to doublemass flywheel on a diesel engine? My flywheel and clutch cant handle the power and abuse, but it also needs to be comfortble to drive
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they probably don't make an application for that. Diesels use dual mass flywheels to damp out idle and low rpm vibrations.
@joetheindividual4855
@joetheindividual4855 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t even hit the break in miles on my Exedy stage 1 HD and I’m already kicking myself 🤦‍♂️ I already spent years with a stage 2 single disc and a light flywheel having annoying misfire codes.
@modenatwinturbo
@modenatwinturbo Жыл бұрын
anyone know the part number for evo? multiple models available.
@redman42088
@redman42088 2 жыл бұрын
We're do I get one ?
@LJV-12345
@LJV-12345 Жыл бұрын
I ve bought this fantastic piece of engineering It works perfectly on my Sti 600 hp but when I press the cluth a noise appears only on that moment. It is a "normal" behave? once you release it the noise is gone.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
It's probably just a little bit of floater chatter.
@wright5111
@wright5111 2 жыл бұрын
GIVE US MORE!
@HellaDizzzy
@HellaDizzzy 5 ай бұрын
Is the clutch pedal heavy ? When shifting gears?
@motoiq
@motoiq 5 ай бұрын
No like stock
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