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@SecretSauceyjuice
@SecretSauceyjuice 6 жыл бұрын
I know you get complaints from time to time about the videos being too long and drawn out, but I really appreciate the in depth breakdown in this one specifically. There's so much to compare when someone asks an impossible question like 'what's the best compound'. It requires you to go through each of the strengths and weaknesses of each product because there really isn't a straight answer. It depends on your machine, time, budget, ease of use, and what end result you're going for. I think you answered all of that with this video very nicely. A good mix of scientific evidence and personal experience/tips as well.
@SecretSauceyjuice
@SecretSauceyjuice 3 жыл бұрын
@Amsterdamnster Kush I actually make money doing professional paint correction and installing coatings now. It's a pretty lucrative side business. Amazing what happens when you put your mind to something. You should try it.
@a.k1311
@a.k1311 6 жыл бұрын
Im hooked on the forensic detail channel!! 🤙🏼
@danlc95
@danlc95 6 жыл бұрын
The Rock - Me too!
@nicolasvandaele5023
@nicolasvandaele5023 6 жыл бұрын
When do gonna test zvizzer compounds ?
@eastyorkshiremamil
@eastyorkshiremamil 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, how times have moved on! 15/20 years ago BC (Before Children!) when I actually had cars I cared about, I used to spend a lot of time looking after them. Now the kids are older and I have more available time and we have cars I want again, instead of cars we need, I began taking a bit more pride in looking after them. I was 'old school' you could say, so I bought some T-Cut, got some old rags and an old tin of Turtle Wax polish I had and spent a day trying to get a black Mini Cooper Roadster looking lovely...... what a waste of time that was! So I did the thing everyone does these days and Google'd away looking for advice and info. This lead me to your channel John. And what a revelation it is! I've watched most of your videos over the last few weeks, much to the amusement of my Mrs who thinks I'm going mad! I'm now the owner of a DA polisher, loads of different pads, a stack of micro-fibres and, after watching this video (and your one about The Best Finishing Polish) have tubs of Koch Chemie H8.02 and M2.01. Yesterday I had my first attempt at using them and got brilliant results which I'm very pleased with. All swirls were gone and a beautiful glass like finish was the end result once I'd sealed and waxed. I find all of your videos very informative, well presented in your relaxed and friendly manner and extremely useful for novices like me. Keep up the good work!
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 5 жыл бұрын
Jason thanks so much posts like this make it all worthwhile, its a great hobby and the best feeling is when you invest the time and get the car looking really good. awesome made my day that has :)
@eastyorkshiremamil
@eastyorkshiremamil 5 жыл бұрын
It sure is very rewarding to see the results John. I kept leaning out of our dining room window last night waving my hand in front of the PIR to get the drive light to come on so I could see the car shining brightly! Haha! Thanks again for your brilliant videos :-)
@losttheplot26
@losttheplot26 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@losttheplot26
@losttheplot26 3 жыл бұрын
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@losttheplot26
@losttheplot26 3 жыл бұрын
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@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 4 жыл бұрын
This video convinced me a long time ago to buy H8.02 and I've been very pleased with it since !! Leaves a very good finish, you don't even need a finishing compound. The result is comparable to a one step like Angelwax regenerate
@LucaBonato
@LucaBonato 2 жыл бұрын
Bought the h9, I need a real compound. Used a 15mm throw DA. The megs 105 cuts 10 time better. Tested on a relative soft paint with years of rids ad swirls
@davidhanlee
@davidhanlee 4 жыл бұрын
Literally the most comprehensive and informative product video I've ever seen. I don't usually comment on videos but I appreciate all the information provided. Might I suggest adding timestamps to future videos.
@mlacey2319
@mlacey2319 5 жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate your research and thoroughness. Thank you for your time and kindness to share what’s truly performing best in all areas of preference and to better serve clients and as an expert.
@TheSkeptic_1
@TheSkeptic_1 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing. Thorough, light-hearted at times, fun, and as an American you grab my full attention because my English is not as entertaining. Keep at it!
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
thanks very much its always nice to get some positive feedback appreciate it
@TheSkeptic_1
@TheSkeptic_1 6 жыл бұрын
Forensic Detailing Channel Is there a resource you know of where I can order some of these products online? Amazon US doesn't carry most of them.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
we have like different brands and products over here with some cross over both ways. Scholl you should be able to get in the USA, koch I dont think are available. Menz yes... megs yep :) generally speaking I really dont know the US distributors that well. You should check out obsessed garage store because the products matt sells there is the stuff he has chosen to use and he has a good eye for detail. rag company I know. autogeek. blackfire, esoteric beyond that I really dont know mate sorry
@stefanolever9721
@stefanolever9721 6 жыл бұрын
Great! I do appreciate the effort on doing this comparison for the web, great explanation great as always. I've used all of them (expect for DK) and I can confirm your impressions completely.
@330d5
@330d5 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, looking forward to the finishing polish test. Saying that how about a shootout test comparing 1 step cutting and finishing compounds? Products like Scholl S20 Black, Sonax 04-06, etc. I think that would be worthwhile as many people would prefer a 1step paint correction if possible.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
Im shooting bits of the polish test now. funny you mention s20 and 04-06. I talking about this in the next vid. but would need to do a seperate one to compare them
@330d5
@330d5 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Interested to get your opinion on S20 Black regards to its cut and finish.
@PhilArnold001
@PhilArnold001 6 жыл бұрын
Really informative, thanks for the review H8 sounds awesome, especially for pros, as it cuts the fastest and doesn't need to be worked to get results, thus saving a huge amount of time = money I can't help feeling sonax cutmax would have been better suited for inclusion, especially when going up against H8 as the most aggressive compound each company does
@givewai
@givewai 6 жыл бұрын
Great comprehensive video. I'd be interested to see how Carpro Clear Cut compares in the future. Gw
@TheElnoopy
@TheElnoopy 6 жыл бұрын
As ever a superb vid and review can’t wait for the polishing review as I’m running low on finishing polish. Spot on John keep them coming 👍🏽
@Casper-we3dq
@Casper-we3dq 6 жыл бұрын
Another great review! I use the Koch and have been very impressed with it.
@dannyd3138
@dannyd3138 6 жыл бұрын
Love you're channel. My detailing is getting better. Thanks. Keep up the good work
@Rasljic88
@Rasljic88 6 жыл бұрын
FS 05-04 is a OK compound from sonax. But better is CutMax or ExCut 05-05
@c6z061
@c6z061 6 жыл бұрын
Cutmax cuts very good!
@GregoryVeizades
@GregoryVeizades 6 жыл бұрын
Hey John, Long time M105 user but more recently in the past 4 months, I've switched to using Megs M100 Pro Speed Compound. If you haven't tried it, I highly recommend it. It pretty much fixes all the issues you (and I) have with M105. It has a longer working time, more lubrication, and significantly less dusting. All while maintaining the Gloss and Finish ability of M105. I haven't used any other quality Compounds however and I am curious to see a more experienced users take on M100. Thanks for the videos! Gregory
@jtm1979
@jtm1979 6 жыл бұрын
I have used M100 and M101. M100 is nice to use, has longer working time, less dust and doesnt smell bad like M101. However M101 destroys M100 when it comes to cutting power atleast when using microfiber pads. instagram.com/p/BPe8QzQBonA/?taken-by=jtm_hmg
@danlc95
@danlc95 6 жыл бұрын
M100 is leaps and bounds more forgiving than M105. Great cut, and great finish.
@jtm1979
@jtm1979 6 жыл бұрын
Cut is not great but ok most. I did side by side test with M101 vs M100 vs Rupes Zephir and M100 was hands down weakest compound. And i have had many projects where i started with M100 and it just didnt cut enough so i switched to M101 and problem solved.
@Nuxkitchens
@Nuxkitchens 4 жыл бұрын
Tremendous vid 👍🏻 love to clean my car and I’ve learnt so much on this channel. Thanks a lot buddy👍🏻
@robertmatthews7527
@robertmatthews7527 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you from Suwanee, GA USA You cleared up many questions, again thanks.
@jessencarcare6557
@jessencarcare6557 6 жыл бұрын
I have used all 6 of these compounds but would say if you take them to the test on both soft and hard clear coat I would take scholl or DK any day of the week. Those 2 compounds work better if you set them up in the bigger picture :) but it’s a hard test to make because all products works differently for all of us
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
I think you might be right. I know the S3 works well on soft paintwork (although Ill use it on any paintwork really). I suspect the H8 will be ok though. My test panel is Ford OEM. It really is splitting the atom this one.
@jessencarcare6557
@jessencarcare6557 6 жыл бұрын
Forensic Detailing Channel for a long time Koch chemie H8.02 was my favorite compound because of the cut it has, it’s an amazing compound that makes a great gloss but on softer clear coats it gets a bit sticky. When I tried DK compounds they had me spot on it really works wonders for me on everything and that low dusting is the sweet spot for me with that level of cut :)
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
it definetly doesnt have the level of lubrication of 1.1 or s3. but my god it cuts :) they are so close because h8 is well lubricated as well.
@jessencarcare6557
@jessencarcare6557 6 жыл бұрын
Forensic Detailing Channel Yes its a close race between top 3 in your test, I use both KC H8 and DK 1.1 but mostly DK because of the low dusting. When I use DK on the DA it cuts best for me on 3-4 and when I use rotary it cuts best at about 1500 rpm
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about buying a new compound ( menzerna )and I immediately searched for this video. Koch chemie proved to be an amazing one Unfortunately H9 ,it's successor ,costs a hefty price and can't be easily find...
@tomatoindustriesdetailing2955
@tomatoindustriesdetailing2955 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative...cheers mate. It's weird how 105 has > gloss than products that came after it and were designed to have improved gloss. I'd like to try the KC H8.02 but its a bugger to get in Aus. Buying from Eu or the old Dart sometimes the postage cost more than the polish :( My 2 fav's on here are S3 and Fg400.
@petethompson1282
@petethompson1282 4 жыл бұрын
I believe many go for Megs Ultimate compound instead of 105 due to the dusting and carrier, even though its from the domestic range, it is more forgiving.
@jtm1979
@jtm1979 6 жыл бұрын
Koch Chemie H8.02 is my favourite too. M101 is alot better than M105. Nanolex Heavy Cut is also great. Angelwax is also great, but imo more greasy like S3 XXL so not the best with microfiber. This week im going to test Carpro Clear Cut compound which should be awesome.
@biddiss12
@biddiss12 6 жыл бұрын
I have used detailing Kingdom compounds since July this year . They are very good . More details need to get there name out
@AaronMattheus
@AaronMattheus 6 жыл бұрын
Informative video as always! Concerning the price. If you just detailing your own cars and are not a professional that goes through multiple bottles a month I really think price shouldn't play a big role to you. I been through 5 cars and am yet to finish my first tub of compound, so I think it would be mental to skimp out on a 'better' one to save one or three pounds. Also considering you're going to spend hours of time correcting the paint, so don't pay attention to a 2 pound diffrence which might reflect in your results. Not that you said the opposite but I just wanted to leave that here. Since in the past I paid alot of attention to the price of some products because they seemed expensive. But when you know you are going to get years of use out of one bottle, you really should disregard the price to some extend.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
maybe but I think its good to talk about it and then how important that actually is to each person will vary like you say and each person can take away from that what they will... big variance in price though.. dont like paying 44 quid with a litre of abrasives when a very well regarded brand is charging like 28 quid.
@alexruse7686
@alexruse7686 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! You are the best detailer in comparation of the products!
@Captain-Donut
@Captain-Donut 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely perfect breakdown. Will be trying Koch next. ‘S3 bottle really annoys me. Lol
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
was gonnas mention. scholl have changed to bottle lids now, they have proper nozzles on them. yer the current older lids are woefull.
@SRKarting
@SRKarting 6 жыл бұрын
Mint video mate 👍. Absolutely brilliant. Looking forward to the polishing one :- ) hope you got Sonax Perfect Finish In there 👍👍.
@samuelcastle1541
@samuelcastle1541 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John thanks for the great videos! After watching both the best cutting compound and best finishing compound videos I've been left thinking about one-step compounds like sonax perfect finish, s20 black etc. Would be really interested to see a shootout video of one-step compounds for those wanting to get the best cut and finish, whilst doing only single stage polishing
@Audittr2108
@Audittr2108 6 жыл бұрын
The Koch must be good to replace your beloved S3! Great review as ever. Your product shoot outs are the best on youtube!
@cliffgray9155
@cliffgray9155 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video video jon.great information.ill look forward to the polishing one.happy xmass to you and you family.outstanding work!!!!!!!!!.
@hakman239
@hakman239 4 жыл бұрын
Sonax excut 05-05 is a heavy cut compound but one step really good on hard paint
@mickjones3865
@mickjones3865 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, not for this vid I know but have a look at a company called Cleantec Equipment Ltd. You can change your rubbish plastic coated jet washer hose for a good long rubber coated one. They are based in Northern Island and the quality seems good. Also the hose does not coil up so no tripping over the damn thing !
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
mate thanks for that I really do need to do this, the oem hose suxs
@mikekniess9937
@mikekniess9937 6 жыл бұрын
New compound on market in us called last cut made by detailer in lavegas it is really good reveiw done r a g company and car craft auto great reveiw s
@maximinojaimes9860
@maximinojaimes9860 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Kniess 2nd for the last cut, really a game changer I love it have heard good things about carpro clear cut also
@victorhernandez790
@victorhernandez790 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I been hearing a bunch about last Compound also
@mikekniess9937
@mikekniess9937 6 жыл бұрын
2018 is going year some really good yr for detailers rupes and flex have new polisher and pads and polish system to go with them give. John chance to catch up last cut might not available in UK the products he tested are available he using. a new toy gloss meter will give accurate results. it's expensive to try to new products if the distribution. In UK you pay important tax 30 dollars plus cost of products John re views a lot of products. I am sure car pro clear cut is a great product.
@stephenmuir5108
@stephenmuir5108 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Review Jon - many thanks for sharing 👍🏼
@chrissraceporting7055
@chrissraceporting7055 6 жыл бұрын
Meg's works great with a mist of water
@jayharper1894
@jayharper1894 6 жыл бұрын
A fantastic video, thanks for your time on this one!
@normanmendonca2834
@normanmendonca2834 6 жыл бұрын
Your word is gospel. Tested snd tried. Thanks from Australia.
@TiziM
@TiziM 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison :) owning the menzerna, meg and sonax in my opinion you chose the wrong sonax product. It is the least abrasive cutting they offer. The 06-02 would fit much better in the test and then they still have two more agressive ones. Speaking of the 06-02 i do like it a lot more then meg and menzerna it is much easier to work with it :)
@zaink7037
@zaink7037 6 жыл бұрын
I have menzerna and their step 2 medium cut and polish and step 3 final finish. id say even though there isnt a lot of gloss you'd probably have to use their step 3 to enhance the gloss and possibly remove any buffer trails / holograms as it states it has some cutting capabilities
@Ronke01
@Ronke01 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to redo this one with M110, interested how it would hold up to Menzerna and Koch Chemie, maybe you could also add 3D into the comparison
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 3 жыл бұрын
H8.2 was just king
@robertwinnall8120
@robertwinnall8120 4 жыл бұрын
You might want to put in the description that this isn’t the US. Meguiers is the only product here in the USA. But a great video
@wrx-9rr701
@wrx-9rr701 6 жыл бұрын
First of all great video as always , you're really killing it recently. As you mentioned you probably should've used sonax cutmax instead of FS05-04. FS (Feinschleif) translates to "light cutting" so not surprised it doesn't quite hold up with the others regarding the cut
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
your right cutmax I think would have been better. will get hold on some at some point
@JimmyG91
@JimmyG91 6 жыл бұрын
Scholl s3gold is a bit old. The scholl s2black signature series is heavier in cut but finish better then s3gold. When you use s2bss with scholl white spiderpad it finishes really really good. If youve had it in the test i bet it would win in both cut and finish. Theres also the brand new scholl s1 but ive not tried it yet but i think the cut is ridiculus! Ive also heard the megs m100 has better cut than 105 with the same finish.
@theflannelfisherman8329
@theflannelfisherman8329 5 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that even at dusk with ambient temp panels, by the time you've spread 105 it's already dry and just dusts to all hell. You have to use so much. And the more you use the more it dusts. Not an outdoor product for a 90 degree F summer evening.
@eag8999
@eag8999 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how “the last cut compound” compares. It is the latest “it” product I’ve been hearing about.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
you need to ask if they develope and manufacture in house first. big quo-dos if they do.
@saulmunoz3731
@saulmunoz3731 6 жыл бұрын
Forensic Detailing Channel Why that’s important?
@bartoszplo
@bartoszplo 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably about time to make a refresh of this shootout ... :)
@kevster240
@kevster240 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant John! Thanks for you help the other night over Facebook really appreciate your help . Waited to see this before ordering the products spot on buddy !! Drop me a message to tell me how sort out you’re patron Thanks kev
@ems6165
@ems6165 6 жыл бұрын
Curious how Griots Garage Fast Correcting Cream and CarPro ClearCut compare to these.
@Ontheroadbrogymgo
@Ontheroadbrogymgo 4 жыл бұрын
My most favorite here in the USA, is #1 Wizards Mystic Cut, 2 Mother’s, 3 tie between 3M perfect it & Norton Ice. Do you ever test after with a IP, to see if the compound just fills the scratches? Have you ever tried any of these?
@MAXIMILAN2QAT
@MAXIMILAN2QAT 6 жыл бұрын
Hi John , I hope you can make review about Post-wash maintenance products like nanolex wash coat , Autofinesse Aqua coat , Fireball , Dodo Juice ,bouncers and others . great review as always.
@davidneedham6330
@davidneedham6330 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you!
@philmccabe4832
@philmccabe4832 6 жыл бұрын
Another top video. Thanks John.
@02powertube
@02powertube 4 жыл бұрын
Im a Meguiars fan, but... I just tried the Koch H9 heavy cut and it is fantastic!.
@lozzarichards5515
@lozzarichards5515 4 жыл бұрын
02powertube can you elaborate a little more please, I've been waiting for a response to the H9, what pad did you use and what gloss level did it give you and can you put it up against s3 👍
@02powertube
@02powertube 4 жыл бұрын
@@lozzarichards5515 well, i have long searched for a replacement for my m105, and i think the new m110 is too expensive here in Denmark. I have tried sonax cutmax, 3m, sonax 05-05 and must say i now prefer the Koch. Mainly because it has more lubrication, and on the same time easy to wipe. Leaving a finnish around the same as a good Meg
@bigsscore8378
@bigsscore8378 6 жыл бұрын
Very good, Thank you.
@rbdetailing9832
@rbdetailing9832 6 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel. Must say fantastic all round. Subscribed!! Richard RB Detailing
@kennethss6715
@kennethss6715 6 жыл бұрын
You have menzerna shcc 300 to 😊cut like crazy ☺but you have to go over with a finer one after like menzerna 3800 ☺
@gmans7859
@gmans7859 6 жыл бұрын
The wife sez " what are you doing to my car" - I'm using my Smut Products dear......
@EgoShredder
@EgoShredder 6 жыл бұрын
If she sees the car needs a wash, does she say, "you dirty bastard!" :-D I'm sure she is a lady and words like that would never cross her lips! :-o
@monicabitoque6572
@monicabitoque6572 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks john for all work, happy cristhmas
@jimholden1176
@jimholden1176 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks John great review 😎
@mirabalmedia
@mirabalmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Menzerna 400 is not a compound. Menzerna 400 is more like what I call a heavy medium polish. Why do I say that? It's because if you look up the Technical DataSheet of Menzerna 400 it says "for removal of sanding marks P2000 with heavy cut foam pad & P1500 with wool cut pad" So Menzerna 400 is equal to Sonax Perfect Finish which is also P2000
@xenofonpapanikolaou3278
@xenofonpapanikolaou3278 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, congratulations! Have you considered about doing a review on pads from all the major well known brands?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
thanks buddy yes this will come soon I promise.
@monzacarcare1
@monzacarcare1 4 жыл бұрын
Great review as always
@croydoncarper1539
@croydoncarper1539 5 жыл бұрын
So when polishing a car to correct the paint work and get out swirl marks do you use the cutting compound then use finishing gloss? Sorry if this sounds stupid but I’m new to the whole detailing scene.
@alexanderp5726
@alexanderp5726 6 жыл бұрын
great test! published on the Polish fans "Kosmetyka Aut"
@crashdrumschool1
@crashdrumschool1 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, thank you sir! What pads do you use?
@Blankbilno
@Blankbilno 6 жыл бұрын
I miss 3D HD Cut and 3D AAT Cutting Compound :(
@whereisit467
@whereisit467 6 жыл бұрын
Great video buddy... Best regards from Italy
@petethompson1282
@petethompson1282 4 жыл бұрын
p.s. Scholls have so many polishes its confusing, Id expect s2/s3 to be too harsh on anything other than really bad paint... so a dialy driver with scratches s20 seems best... or s17 then s40 to finish... still, unsure for far s30 will go, need to try them all i guess... scared of s3 and s2 though, sound like sandpaper!
@Rogerkviteberg
@Rogerkviteberg 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid John! :) The koch chemie is Oil based! :) dont know about the others tho :) but i do know that Koch is not Water based :)
@KosovarMods
@KosovarMods 6 жыл бұрын
Jan-Roger, To answer your deleted comments...Angelwax was founded by John Hogg and Matthew Yates and is a family own business. Angelwax only make handmade batches with strictly tested batches before distribution, and therefore leaving with absolute top notch quality products out to customers. The History and Brand review of Angelwax can be seen on one of Johns previous videos Of the Angelwax brand review. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJ9pnrBkxJ2cZmQ.html
@hsand77
@hsand77 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video!
@jasonwilson7674
@jasonwilson7674 6 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I'm sold on the megs, just quick Qs, how do you know when the product is running out on the pad? Can it damage the paint if the product runs out whilst working it? Last one, once you have finished working it in do you then buff it off straight away, thanks again Jason
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
so mixed in with the abrasives is the carrier.. you lay the product down on the panel over your polishing area at low speed, crank the machine up to a good speed and work is.. as you work the abrasives 2 significant things happen. 1 you generate heat 2 the abrasives scrap off clearcoat into the liquid abrasive slurry. As you generate heat you dry the carrier out (to varying extents depending on what the carrier is) and as you collect debry you thicken the slurry a bit like adding flour to milk. You can also have solvents in the carry that flash out of the slurry as well.. the bottem line is as you work your pad over the surface you want to see the film of product moving. As the carrier fails you can see various things happen. With megs you will start collecting product up and seeing patches or discs of dry panel and not long after that you will start dry buffing and collecting all the thick (now gunk like) slurry up in the pad. The main problem is some of the abrasives like S3 gold have carrier systems which just go on and on and on. With megs cutting compound 105 you prolly dont want to be working it beyond 2 minutes on a DA although its very hard to give you an exact time because so many things can effect it. you will see what I mean.. also really important to clean the gunk out the pad after each set mate. I would not recomend 105 if your doing this for the first time.. its a cool product but its a little bit harder to use and has a less forgiving carrier
@jasonwilson7674
@jasonwilson7674 6 жыл бұрын
Forensic Detailing Channel John, thanks for that reply, really appreciate it. Do you think I'd do well to go with the S3 gold then or scholl S20 black?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
if your looking for a heavy cutting compound and its the first time youve polished. S3 gold XXL will work really well on a DA and its easy to use, very low dusting etc.. so I would go with that. you will need to refine out the finish though really.. S3 like I say is a heavy cut compound which a decent finish.. but you would want to finish out with something like S40 with it. S20 is a 1 step. so if you dont want to do multiple stage correction with different pads and compounds. S20 is the way to go.
@jasonwilson7674
@jasonwilson7674 6 жыл бұрын
Forensic Detailing Channel Brilliant, just watched your vid on how to use Das6 pro for beginners, brilliant guide, thanks. I'm going for that machine and the S20 black then. Would I use an orange chem guys pad or the green one or does it matter, thanks again John 👍👍👍
@bdragonseven
@bdragonseven 6 жыл бұрын
S3 Gold is difficult to get in the states. Sky's the limit detailing is the only supplier to carry it here. Koch Chemie? forget about it unless youre willing to spend 3 times the cost of the product in shipping.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
Its mad brett. Ive noticed the inconsistencies with the global distribution footprint of these companies manufacturing abrasives. Theres also inconsistencies with pricing in different countries. Its all about having a distributor to take it on that is not going to over price it.
@whitty132
@whitty132 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review.I found it very helpful . What grade wet sanding did you use before the test. Sorry if you mentioned it and i missed it . Thanks again
@tony.775
@tony.775 6 жыл бұрын
Jon, really the vid I have been waiting for. I would like to have seen the Rupes with Scholl in there but understand its difficult to choose what to review. A few comment on pads you use would have been perfect for cut and polish. Good job, might change my order for KC too??
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
yer delving into pads more would have been usefull. defo gonna do more on pads next year and explore options there. pretty sure you will like H8 mate let me know your thoughts on it.
@tony.775
@tony.775 6 жыл бұрын
That would be great. Rupes have there dedicated grey pad for UHS one step and maybe you can show your take on pads to use, can be used etc.
@robb9382
@robb9382 5 жыл бұрын
The Menzerna Heavy Cut 400 is not as easy to work with as the FG 400. The Heavy Cut has less working time and sticks to the paint like crazy. However, the Heavy Cut has greater cutting abilities and really gets out those deep scratches. In other words, the lubrication on the Heavy Cut is not as good as the FG.
@killacamfoo
@killacamfoo 6 жыл бұрын
If only Koch had a US distributor.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
its crazy that they dont. They are huge in germany. I think someone will end up selling them in the US sooner or later...
@timothybracken1728
@timothybracken1728 3 жыл бұрын
D30032 vs d30016, what are the main differences? I can't find any answers online.
@KWW0321
@KWW0321 4 жыл бұрын
The new sonax ultimate cut is amazing!
@DryUrEyesMate
@DryUrEyesMate 23 күн бұрын
How come you never used scholl 0 cut their most aggressive compound at the time? Scholl s3 is a medium cutting compound
@cus-specdetailing4466
@cus-specdetailing4466 6 жыл бұрын
Fair play mate, always wondered which one between koch and scholl would be the best so this has just answered that for me. As for social media, if i had to say what i would put more time into between twitter and instagram i’d say insta, it’s quick fire content you can put out, patreon is a bit hit and miss but like you say with give aways and sneak peak prior to it coming on here you should be good.I hope you hit the target and can fast forward even better content for us viewers. Merry christmas and a happy new year ya filthy animal 🤣
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
problem is I dont have a smart phone. I use like this 5 quid nokia. and the instagram PC app suxs, so much hassel to convert pictures to it from a DSLR. I think I need to go high tech and get a new mobile phone :(
@leedixon5007
@leedixon5007 6 жыл бұрын
Hey John, great video as always. Quick question. Would you recommend a yellow hexlogic pad with the megs 105 for removing wet sanding marks or moving to a m/f pad ?
@DesignByWempa
@DesignByWempa 6 жыл бұрын
Did/have you tried angelwax ressurection? And as usual a awesome review 👍🏻 /angelwax Sweden
@scottrussell159
@scottrussell159 4 жыл бұрын
Hello buddy , what would you recommend for cutting fresh paint with 2000 grit sand scratches . Based on cutting speed ? Currently using 3m fast cut plus with hard white foam pad on a rotary buffer . I feel I may be missing out on something faster/better. I hate polishing so always looking for something faster / harder
@frixux
@frixux 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best for pvc paint
@KosovarMods
@KosovarMods 6 жыл бұрын
you should have put Angelwax Ressurection to the test also . Its a killer compound !
@KosovarMods
@KosovarMods 6 жыл бұрын
Jan-Roger Kviteberg not that impressed of it, Ressurection was still more effective...
@KosovarMods
@KosovarMods 6 жыл бұрын
Jan-Roger, To answer your deleted comments...Angelwax was founded by John Hogg and Matthew Yates and is a family own business. Angelwax only make handmade batches with strictly tested batches before distribution, and therefore leaving with absolute top notch quality products out to customers. The History and Brand review of Angelwax can be seen on one of Johns previous videos Of the Angelwax brand review. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJ9pnrBkxJ2cZmQ.html
@adomehmedagic
@adomehmedagic 6 жыл бұрын
Great video,You should compare with sonax Cut Max it is in range with thise cutting compounds,also sonax ex cut 05-05 is better to compare,next time maybe ,all the best
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
I do actually have cut and finish.. although sonax rate the cut level the same. I was hoping because 05-04 has less gloss it was perhaps more abrasive. should have just used cutmax really.
@adomehmedagic
@adomehmedagic 6 жыл бұрын
cut max is simular to koch chemie h8.02 but has better finish,,also new ex cut 05-05 is the best one step polish. new ingredients gives you amaiying cut and better gloss then other,
@bbdetailing9123
@bbdetailing9123 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video
@wendellwilliams4171
@wendellwilliams4171 6 жыл бұрын
I need your HELP I put the 9H ceramic coating on my gas tank on my motorcycle mess it up can you tell me what I can use to get it off Thank You
@Politrixesteticaautomotiva
@Politrixesteticaautomotiva 2 жыл бұрын
But good explication
@JohnPerez-fn2ok
@JohnPerez-fn2ok 6 жыл бұрын
What about Jescar Correcting compound and Griot's Fast Correcting Cream? They are the top 2 compounds in the states. Are they available in the UK?
@Unclekeithspaintshop.
@Unclekeithspaintshop. 2 жыл бұрын
What grade of paper were you cutting up from? P2000?
@alexlisney446
@alexlisney446 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't surprise me about Scholl and DK as DK has its roots at Scholl Asia.
@jaymods9347
@jaymods9347 6 жыл бұрын
I’m curious to know as to why the comparisons were not done with the SAME machine & SAME pad. Looks like for the meg 105 you switched over to a rotary vs a Dual action. Not exactly comparing apples to apples at that point imho. Good video overall though, thanks for taking the time to make it.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
we did all the products with a green rupes on the rotary on the hood with a section for each, and a yellow hex logic on the DA on the hood with a section for each. And then also did the same with the 3401 and an orange LC cutting. Its just the way ive randomly overlayed shots of either the rotary or the DA or the 3401..
@jaymods9347
@jaymods9347 6 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
@kevfzr
@kevfzr 4 жыл бұрын
So, given that these deliver a good gloss finish, could they be used for 1 step correction? I've just used S20 black as per your recommendation, but given what I've seen here, maybe I could've used a more aggressive compound?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
some people do yes..but on softer paints and stuff and when your cutting you can leave fine marring in there and stuff. and the finer polish will give the real top notch gloss. so its about time.. but from a detailing perspective really these cutting products I believe should be finish out properly.
@victorhernandez790
@victorhernandez790 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Can’t get your first place compound in the US but I am trying to decide if I should get the Scholls S3 gold XXL or the Last Cut Compound a Lot of people been raving about
@c6z061
@c6z061 6 жыл бұрын
I have XXL and TLC. I like TLC better.
@victorhernandez790
@victorhernandez790 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you! Have you tried the CarPro CLear cut?
@c6z061
@c6z061 6 жыл бұрын
No problem. I have not tried clear cut.
@BoziTatarevic1
@BoziTatarevic1 6 жыл бұрын
Have you had a chance to try Jescar Compound? I have to say it's the best i have used so far, considering i have used everything from FG400 to M105, M101, Sonax..etc.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 6 жыл бұрын
not tried sorry. Im not sure if its available in the UK.
@ALEXANDERCRETA1
@ALEXANDERCRETA1 5 жыл бұрын
Hello sir i have a peugeot 206 1999 model white single stage paint and the color is fade and oxidize,i have buy auto glyms paint renovator 3m rubbing compound and rupes quarz gloss and zephyr compounds aldo i have rupes pads green blue yellow and 3m pads medium hard and microfiber pad,also have rotary polisher,and orbital,what do you recommend for start and which compinations to make or if you propose me another compound, thanks you very much!
@paul-fk7de
@paul-fk7de 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John I have a Vauxhall mokka red it have very light swirl Mark's would you recommend a single stage polish if so can you recommend any please
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Sure polish with Koch f6 and flex orange Pad on a da
@Jason-Jason
@Jason-Jason 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video
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