The Best Decks Couldn't Cut It! | cEDH Top 16 Breakdown

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Today I'm taking a look at LDXP event from CommandFest Tacoma, an in-person cEDH tournament that took place this past weekend. This event easily has the most unique meta breakdown of any I've ever covered, with no Tymna/Kraum, no Sisay, but plenty of the controversial new bird Nadu. I go over the meta of the event, then break down each of the deck lists that made top 16, and try to make sense of the format post MH3. The decks featured are Korvold, Nadu, Jenson Carthalion, Thras/Vial, Stella Lee, Magda, Kinnan, Erinis/Street Urchin, Najeela, Krark/Sakashima, Kenrith, and Atraxa.
Let me know which of these decks was your favorite in the comments below!
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:20 - Meta Breakdown
3:05 - Thras/Vial
5:29 - Jenson Carthalion
8:19 - Erinis/Street Urchin
12:54 - Nadu
17:09 - Atraxa
19:38 - Stella Lee
22:31 - Nadu 2
23:58 - Magda
26:12 - Kenrith
27:57 - Najeela
33:04 - Kinnan
34:57 - Elsha
38:35 - Nadu 3
41:19 - Korvold
45:51 - Krark/Sakashima
48:18 - Kenrith 2
51:02 - Wrap-up

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@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Is Nadu Summer real? What do you think of a top 16 without Tnk, Rog/Si, and Sisay? Let me know down below!

@yvesmathis5651 Ай бұрын

Sorry but i cannot take any event seriously who is not proxy friendly - the data is always scewed. I mean how many list er fully optimised? Like 10% or what? You kinda cant say that it is representable of the meta. That beeing said - nadu summer isnt real - like urza summer wasnt real. In switzerland nadu tended to be shut down damn hard. One counter, one removal and it is gone, its not like kinnan who can bounce back into game. I think its about to stay as godo also stays but it wont be nearly as powerful as other things. But we will see if with the next swiss tournament changes my view next sunday but i doubt.

@user-sl7wn8kk9k Ай бұрын

one thing that is true to the Nadu deck is we got phrases like "shuko shuffle" "uncle functus blesses us with the funk naus" and more OG phrases like "do the thing"

@105Strike105 Ай бұрын

Thats the best thing to happen to the format. All the greedy decks need to be put in there place and can just go in a straight lime anymore

@rickybobby2633-s1r Ай бұрын

Been playing magic for a couple of years.. getting into cedh and I was wondering how do you find events to go to? What is the best way to find events?

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

@@rickybobby2633-s1r topdeck.gg

@ameliaburton5313 Ай бұрын

Just to add some context, top 4 of this tournament agreed to a split. Kenrith wanted points for topdeckgg reasons. Krarkashima ended up winning the bragging rights game

@user-cc3bw6ix3h Ай бұрын

Hi I’m the krark player xd. Ty Amelia. And yes a turn 3 win in the finals. Turn 4 in top 16. A turn 2 win in the Swiss. Was a successful tourney and when I have more time I’ll be after the top deck points myself.

@BlindCarl Ай бұрын

Hey I was the jenson/lurrus player! I think you end up casting jenson a lot more than people would expect. the filter is fairly relevant and it synergizes really well with j-will and bring to light. I probably wouldn't play j-will if jenson couldn't filter the red mana. I don't think i will be switching to ezio, while ezio is easier to cast jenson's filter ability is actually fairly relevant for supporting certain cards and I don't think he is that much more difficult to cast. ezio's abilities just feel entirely irrelevant

@AltBananas Ай бұрын

Erinis player here. Deck does insane work and would’ve been able to lock for top 4 if not for a misplay. That deck is the truth 100%. It holds nadu down too so it’s very well positioned

@stephenalsup6300 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the love on the najeela deck. Its been fun working on the list with, funny enough, the player who took first

@kylechamberlain9052 Ай бұрын

Great review. Was my first real tournament and was the Stella player. Definitely gave me some stuff to consider swapping out. Overall was a great experience and looking forward to doing more in the future. Honestly didn’t know people reviewed tournament decks until my friends shared this video with me, but this was awesome to watch. Keep up the great work.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Thank you! Yep, I do a whole bunch of these, I look forward to seeing you in more top 16s!

@andyontaneda996 Ай бұрын

anvil dust kenrith list is amazing i play the same deck with a couple meta swaps and i love it glad to see a great pilot take the win at this tourny

@jasonwarren516 Ай бұрын

Atraxa player here, apprieciate the criticism/breakdown. Having picked up the deck just recently, trying out things like Hullbreaker and Trophy are just me seeing what works and what doesn't. Also Nadu Summer is very real lmao

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Always love to see some experimenting.

@CthulhuOGreatOne Ай бұрын

I've waffled on hullbreaker, as you stated the infinite colorless isn't the most useful. I've gotten it and kitten out then had infinite flickers to win with a bowmaster after exiling food chain/oracle with dem con to stop a win.

@DanielCotillo Ай бұрын

No Trymma/Kraum or Rog/Sy making it to the top? Now that is an interesting tournament result to analyze.

@adamcomeau3731 Ай бұрын

You do such a great job I really like the format of your videos and you release frequent enough to stay interesting. Keep up the good work. 😊

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Thank you! I love to hear it.

@AlternativelyBananas Ай бұрын

Excited for your cowtown coverage~

@Joking101 Ай бұрын

I was the first Nadu deck you reviewed, lost to another Nadu that was in Seat 1 in the semis with a cracked hand. I also won the SeaEDH 6 event the previous weekend in Seattle on Nadu. I also made a pretty lengthy video talking about my win with Nadu on my channel. If you ever want to chat about the deck let me know. I got lots of thoughts.

@marcosaguilar9337 Ай бұрын

Goddamn that’s insane to be honest, I do LOVE to see a top 16 like this, not having tons of the top commanders and have more variety in it!

@markparker2012 Ай бұрын

Excited to try Korvold with Soultrader and Chatterfang and cradle this weekend. Also maybe song of dryads to answer the nadu and meathook massacre. Get em w six from the yard.

@stefanentzeroth9027 Ай бұрын

Erinis is insane, I borrowed it from a buddy to play as a meme, and man the deck did great, only game I lost was top pod, because the sisay player kingmade the slicer..

@Cardtrader21 Ай бұрын

I so badly want to see a Derevi list go nuts with some of these new cards that have been added

@ry7hym Ай бұрын

i loved the five color lurrus list

@pippofelipe6901 Ай бұрын

Summertime sadnaus. Let the bird shine, its better than see a partner goodstuff generic decklist 😅

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Summertime Sadnaus by Lana Del Rog is a banger

@Kizzet373 Ай бұрын

Erinis + Street Urchin be nastyyyyy

@josephsheldon9361 Ай бұрын

Love the breakdowns of each deck and your content as a whole. I’m getting into the cedh space now after playing modern and legacy since 2013, have a few tournaments next month nearby I want to gear up to take on what deck would you recommend I do like the look of rogsi and blue farm from the content I’ve consumed and have a good understanding of a lot of the cards/combos just unsure of pace of the game and windows and those nuances plan to jam a lot of mtgo once I select a deck in prep.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Thank you! I think if you feel comfortable with the combos and just want to pickup a deck that's powerful those are both great options. I think Rog/Si is my favorite list post mh3 though blue farm will be a little more forgiving on some of those windows. If you want to jam fast Rog is your best bet, Blue Farm will give you a bit more time through the game to develop and reward good small decision making over the course of a game.

@josephsheldon9361 Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards happen to have a link to a good updated rogsi list for mh3?

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

@@josephsheldon9361 www.moxfield.com/decks/Rmu3C6QenkC2iRe-uN1BSA

@josephsheldon9361 Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards I appreciate this greatly man, keep up the great work and may your channel grow and massive successes come your way. I’ll be sure to post updates after my events in July, hopefully I can hit a top 16 and give u a reason to talk about Roger some more lol.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

@josephsheldon9361 hell yeah I hope so! Thank you!

@joshholmes1372 Ай бұрын

Non proxy event feels like it supports a nadu type build? Since it runs a ton of jank

@KiwinaiOfficial Ай бұрын

It's a good thing you and I both know that River Hoopoe is officially the best card. 👀

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Yeah, someone has been really inspiring to my work lately 👀

@TripsAhoy Ай бұрын

It was supp to be the Summer of Gaddock! Wow alot of Nadu. Kinda cool tho. ❤❤❤

@YukichiSuu Ай бұрын

A Hikaru Utada reference in 2024?!!! I feel old. XD

@Lildayquill Ай бұрын

Fun fact, the last large PNW tournament also had no tymna/kraums. Blue farm really isnt the meta up here somehow

@nealcrabtree3647 Ай бұрын

I'm here to praise Magda ❤

@Holden_P Ай бұрын

Heads up: when you were reviewing krakashima, the Ral only needs to cast 6 spells (winning the 6th) not 8. He starts with 2 loyalty. Honestly makes a big difference to ulting immediately

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Oh yeah sure if I said that I misspoke I just mean you wanna make sure you get to flip into 8. He'd be pretty poor as a walker that could flip with 1 loyalty lol.

@Holden_P Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards yeah for sure. I’ve been playing him as a cEDH commander recently and it’s surprising how powerful he is

@dekina1198 Ай бұрын

Noteably interaction with unctus and Seeker of skybreak/Aphetto Alchemist: tap and untap them, loot though your deck

@NybarMTG Ай бұрын

Surprised nobody covered the topdeck titans event with all the nadu talk going around. 3 nadu's in the top 4 alone.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Just was awkward timing with multiple big IRL events the same weekend.

@THEChallisMiles Ай бұрын

This was my first ever cEDH tournament and I wanted so badly to make the top 16. I didn't make it unfortunately, but I still got 20th so not the worst?

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Still a great job! That's awesome for your first event!

@THEChallisMiles Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards Thank you sir! I was crossing my fingers so I could show up on all the KZfaq cEDH channels I love to watch lol Thanks for your great content!

@jaysuede2627 Ай бұрын

It makes sense that Tymna/Kraum can't prey on Nadu. It's the first engine in a long time that doesn't feed the Farm. Imagine if Magda was UR, then we could compare.

@Rizso1 Ай бұрын

the korvold looks crazy

@joshholmes1372 Ай бұрын

Trinket mage is an amazing tutor for shuko. Tutoring for a creature tutor to snag trinket mage is a roundabout way to get shuko.

@LaryLaser Ай бұрын

Side note. Springheart Nantuko does not require to pay anything to get the bug.

@tenknq Ай бұрын

LFG korvold daddy

@edsontorrontegui9491 18 күн бұрын

This was a nonproxy event? I think that's a big deal that impacts results

@fernandob2275 Ай бұрын

Hullbreacher, never forget.

@105Strike105 Ай бұрын

Nadu is such a good shake up of the current boring midrange good stuff meta. And now forcing people to actually play removal artifact/ enchantment/ creature is a good thing. Glad boring blue farm is taking a hit from this. See that deck to much and getting stale

@ADTR4ever Ай бұрын

Just a heads up. Elsha has prowess... brainstorm away guys!!! OBM wont be able to kill it just off the draws.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Well you can probably stay ahead of it just be mindful in the OBM draw engine meta game.

@kahlilmartinez Ай бұрын

I’m the clown here 😂

@dave3269 Ай бұрын

[[Verrak, Warped Sengir]] is coming [[Apple of Eden, Isu Relic]] [[Warren Soultrader]] [[Gravecrawler]] [[Kambal, Profiteering Mayor]] [[Reassembling Skeleton]] [[Yawgmoth, Thran Physician]]

@matthewbell4897 Ай бұрын

bro leave the lights dim, the camera picks up way more color in your face so you aren't as pale lol. great breakdown!

@spinningtrain9091 Ай бұрын

krark will consume all

@MageSkeleton Ай бұрын

i saw this coming, Nadu is going to dominate commander until it's banned. Nothing can compete with what it does. If someone sits down to play Nadu and the three other opponents aren't immediately looking to "arch enemy" that player they win. i'd hate to see a table where there's more than one Nadu. if i don't play Nadu, it will only be because my LGS punishes players for playing "Storm" or similar time consuming decks.

@NickNicolay-ih4zi Ай бұрын

How in the world do you play Magda and not play roaming throne?! That hurts my heart.

@NickNicolay-ih4zi Ай бұрын

Also… WE 👏🏻LOVE👏🏻FLARE👏🏻

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Just be built different!

@NickNicolay-ih4zi Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards built different and crazy talk are 2 totally different things! 🤣

@UkFlyFisher Ай бұрын

Madness, as a long-time Magda player the card completely changes the maths for everything and lets you win out of nowhere. I can only assume they accidentally turned up without a real copy so had to cut it on the fly.

@robdroptables Ай бұрын

I think I saw this was not proxy friendly. It's possible the pilot was restricted by their physical card selection which makes their T16 all the more impressive. Good job!

@_Valediction Ай бұрын

this tourny really shows that the alot of tnk & rogsi players dont own real duals or L.E.Ds lol

@sayntfuu Ай бұрын

No proxies? That hurts the field I think. The results should get an *.

@entertainmentinc9735 Ай бұрын

There’s a chuck of tournaments that require real cards. You just gotta buy them

@AtlasAdvice254 Ай бұрын

Your wallet doesn’t make you a better player

@entertainmentinc9735 Ай бұрын

@@AtlasAdvice254 And you being proxy friendly doesn’t make you automatically the correct side of the argument.

@sayntfuu Ай бұрын

@@entertainmentinc9735 Oh I thought we were playing against the other persons skill not their disposable income. Well count me out of this scene then.

@AtlasAdvice254 Ай бұрын

@@entertainmentinc9735 you being proxy opposed doesn’t make you correct either. The entire intention of commander was to be a social format that included the most possible people. If you wanna keep pumping money into hazbro’s wallet then by all means, go ahead.

@rodrigocosta2365 Ай бұрын

Nadu ban now

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

I'm on it!

@rodrigocosta2365 Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards 😂

@thecitizen6860 Ай бұрын

No. I like nadu. Yes its strong. But damn any strong commander comes along and you guys wanna ban it immediately. The fact it could change the meta makes you throw a fit. The meta is so damn boring without these new powerful cards

@BlazinTre Ай бұрын

Why adapt when you can BAN 🤬@@thecitizen6860

@rodrigocosta2365 Ай бұрын

Nadu could be banned because there isn't a way to build him casually @@thecitizen6860