Needed this thanks! Started playing Magic for the the first time a month ago I’ve used 3 decks so far and for now I’m sticking with WINota love her
@Facuchena20 сағат бұрын
is malcolm still a good deck for cedh in this meta?
@LemorasCards17 сағат бұрын
I've seen Malcolm with Tana, Tymna, or Vialsmasher all do well recently. It seems like Vial is the best positioned right now.
@V2ULTRAKill20 сағат бұрын
I look at all these meta lists and go "Naw, Ishai/Tevesh is my beautiful antimeta list"
@benjaminking367720 сағат бұрын
Look, I see in Orcish Bowmasters in the tag ya know imma be here calling it mid at best.
@Clemsonalumnus22 сағат бұрын
So Nadu is now being played in Vintage with success. That card was a mistake.
@LemorasCards17 сағат бұрын
100%. If they knew it was this broken it would he a mythic for sure.
@johnmchugh339822 сағат бұрын
Which decks are the easiest to pilot?
@V2ULTRAKill20 сағат бұрын
No meta lists are easy to pilot But rogsi is the /easiest/ since it has one goal
@LemorasCards17 сағат бұрын
Of these, I think if you know the format decently well, Tymna/Kraum isn't too tough but can be hard to learn as the tutors and flexibility can be a bit daunting. For new players, I'd probably point you towards Kinnan and maybe Nadu, though that one I'm less sure on since I have less experience with it. Sisay, Magda, Kenrith, and Rog/Si I think stand out as harder to play than the rest.
@V2ULTRAKill17 сағат бұрын
@@LemorasCards while the pod relations are harder on rogsi Turbo lists being hyper linear negates a lot of that, which is why i called it easy in that respect The gameplan itself is one of the easiest to master, and then a more beginner player can focus on learning interaction better through play Though that was my take (yours is just as valid from other viewpoints and its cool)
@robdroptables22 сағат бұрын
Great Magda overview, Matthew. You did a good job understanding parts of the deck that most streamers don't understand or gloss over, and explaining it in an easy to comprehend way. Fantastic point of advice there about leaning in on the Magda player to use their toolbox to help stabilize the table instead of constantly fearing it. We are happy to do this (most of the time, heh). Thanks!
@414pseudo823 сағат бұрын
I really like this video. Ive said it before it seems we dont have a lot of deck tech videos and this is perfect for people getting into tbe format that 1 dont know what to play and 2 get to know what they will most likely see in their pods and get a general understanding of what to watch out for. Would love to see more videos like this when you get the time especially if every once in a while we see some lesser played commanders (as a Jenson Lurrus player its hard to find info) Again great video and I hope to see this continue.
@LemorasCards23 сағат бұрын
Thank you! I'll definitely look into doing more similar content.
@pippofelipe690123 сағат бұрын
Amazing!
@LemorasCards23 сағат бұрын
Thank ya!
@john_wick272Күн бұрын
7:00 preach brother
@7thCircleHobbiesКүн бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. I play several of these decks regularly. Maybe a similar video about “dangerous” off meta decks you might run into and lose against?
@nealcrabtree3647Күн бұрын
I'm here to praise Magda ❤
@jamallynch121823 сағат бұрын
@@nealcrabtree3647 I'm here for the raining unpopular TnK lol
@kevin171994Күн бұрын
Do one for my boy k’rrik !
@markparker2012Күн бұрын
Love this video. Picking a deck for this weekend.
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
Let me know what you pick!
@markparker2012Күн бұрын
@@LemorasCards the kenrith deck looks up my alley. Gonna go with it
@darkinsanity98473Күн бұрын
Having just bought a Borderless foil Dockside Extortionist I would be very upset if it ever gets banned. That's one of the main reasons I gravitated to EDH, since bans are pretty rare. I got so sick of investing in decks only for bans to ruin it.
@medinore2069Күн бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I needed. I've been getting into the format more and my friend group only likes playing off meta cedh commanders. For someone who's interested in playing in future tournaments, this answers a lot of questions that I've had. I literally wrote down notes to watch Rogsi/Nadu/Magda/Sisay deck techs lol This is even better though, because you're reviewing updated decklists. Thanks Matt!
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
Happy to help! Gonna do my best to make sure up to date info is accessible!
@V2ULTRAKill20 сағат бұрын
Thing is You can scam out some nasty wins with offmeta lists Especially antimeta lists
@andrewkelley6039Күн бұрын
<3
@coreyhayslip5418Күн бұрын
Hey thanks for showing off my tnk list homie. Great video once again. Let's be honest tnk is the best deck lol. Side note considering cutting 1 wrath aka deluge and at least try the copy artifact
@LemorasCards17 сағат бұрын
@coreyhayslip5418 of course! I definitely feel cutting the second Wrath I usually just like the one. Haven't tested the copy artifact tech yet but seems good to me!
@KiwinaiOfficialКүн бұрын
My favorite deck? Anything that can run River Hoopoe, the un-contested best card in cEDH... 👀 (Kinnan♥)
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
@KiwinaiOfficial River Hoopoe is too high card quality to fit in Kinnan 🐦
@KiwinaiOfficialКүн бұрын
@@LemorasCards You're so right, bestie.. I'm a fool. 😞
@RexzodenКүн бұрын
Love playing me some Kinnan; but my win rate is infinitely higher with Selvala Brostorm 😅
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
@Rexzoden I loved playing that deck, Phyrexian Dreadnought make 12 mana and draw a card best ritual ever 👌
@RexzodenКүн бұрын
@@LemorasCardsagreed! Something about playing cards like Dreadnaught just hits different 👏 MH3 also brought some new toys like Shifting Woodland and Fanatic of Rhonas, making it easier/safer than ever to hit those power thresholds to combo off!
@aRFav713Күн бұрын
Fellow green mage! I'm a Yisan and Grist Hulk player (I know my decks aren't tier 1, but still...). I Love Shifting Woodland, Fanatic, Six.
@jamallynch121823 сағат бұрын
@@Rexzoden my sons fav deck is the prodigy
@TripsAhoyКүн бұрын
Beginner's please dont listen to me and run the best deck ever with my boy Gaddock Teeg as the commander! ❤❤❤
@WorldofSoupSКүн бұрын
Is tayam still doing well? Also what archetype would that be in?
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
Tayam is doing okay it just doesn't have a lot of showings. For the most part it fits in pretty cleanly into that "wingine" archetype. It does have to develop a board with casting spells to start, but usually so does Magda and Sisay. It just has to cast something to get started, is less deterministic, but is also a pain to deal with and breaks itself really fast.
@cyrustalksaboutstuffКүн бұрын
@LemorasCards we lovvvvve really difficult to pilot decks here
@deeds2rКүн бұрын
Malcolm/Vial it's a pirates life for me AARGH!!!
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
@deeds2r I do love talking about that deck, looks like it's making a comeback I've been covering it a good bit lately.
@deeds2rКүн бұрын
@@LemorasCards Hell yea. I've top 16'd my last 2 tours. So many variations of the deck. Should have a slight brewers advantage.
@jamallynch121823 сағат бұрын
@@deeds2r I actually like this list
@Holden_PКүн бұрын
Excellent video (so far- still watching).
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
I do my best!
@Mimz67014 сағат бұрын
Imagine he finishes watching and says this thing sucks lol
@jeffscalise5927Күн бұрын
Ban dockside, breach and thoracle. Would make for a more interesting meta imho.
@jeffscalise5927Күн бұрын
And cradle
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
@@jeffscalise5927 not my Cradle!
@jamallynch1218Күн бұрын
That would just kill the format a better option in my opinion is to unban some things that would shake up the meta
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
@jamallynch1218 at the very least Recurring Nightmare is ready to come off. Golos never should've gone on.
@brucemuhlestein152Күн бұрын
It would be nice to see the format get shaken up, as a relatively new Cedh player but long time legacy player, the play patterns in this format get pretty predictable. What about lowering the life total of all players to 25 like brawl? Make aggressive and stax decks a little more viable to balance out all the combo strategies?
@jacobhibbard6405Күн бұрын
I would love to see more deck tech content from this channel. It’s such a good resource for newer cEDH players!
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
@jacobhibbard6405 thank you!
@LemorasCardsКүн бұрын
Which cEDH deck is your favorite? What do you think of the meta? Let me know down below, and don't forget to subscribe to learn more!
@Holden_PКүн бұрын
Dune Popcorn Bucket (Geralf the Fleshwright) 🏜️🍿🪣 - my favorite deck in cEDH
@Thoughtmage100Күн бұрын
I built my own personal pet deck to compete with the local cedh players. I play Marvo, Deep Operative. It's definitely not the best, but it has a lot of fun play patterns when playing at the highest levels.
@jamallynch121823 сағат бұрын
@@LemorasCards well in know this is going to be unpopular but I play TnK I also like rogsi but I'm currently putting together sissay
@jamallynch121823 сағат бұрын
@@LemorasCards honestly I think the meta is pretty balanced depending on the pod I really wish we could get new partners I think I like any grexis pile/sands green to 5 color
@jamallynch121823 сағат бұрын
@@Thoughtmage100 my first deck/pet deck was azami I since have taken that deck apart to help my sons build their decks and moved on to TnK
@BedroomPianistКүн бұрын
Kinnan has been suffering after they printed Bowmasters. If they didn't print that card the deck would have a higher conversion rate. I hate OBM.
@Medicinalmagic911Күн бұрын
Good to go boyyeezz❤
@personagem97Күн бұрын
Sylvan Library and draw effects on upkeep is weeeeird.
@cabraljonathan212 күн бұрын
Good lord what a great episode! Eye opening for sure. You guys gave great tips that go beyond just the game
@LemorasCards2 күн бұрын
@@cabraljonathan21 thank you! Super happy to hear it!
@Helixcards2 күн бұрын
It's basically pronounced goo-ang jo
@BrashM2 күн бұрын
Magda #1
@BrashM2 күн бұрын
Kinnan has such a low conversion rate. Im surprised it’s that high
@LemorasCards2 күн бұрын
Being super popular definitely helps.
@aaronconway25822 күн бұрын
My prediction, Tameshi wins the invitational
@LemorasCards2 күн бұрын
@aaronconway2582 I need a top 4 of Tameshi, Erinis, Oswald, and Tayam.
@TDogsYard2 күн бұрын
Makes me sad, I got back into Mtg in 2024, wanted to play competitively, don’t see much point, this is just commander format, the rest is out of control and they don’t punish players enough to deter others from doing it or repeating it.
@LemorasCards2 күн бұрын
Fortunately this is mostly an online issue, which is becoming less popular in general but also any of the cheaters I've covered I think have received longterm bans.
@TDogsYard2 күн бұрын
@@LemorasCards Mostly an online issue my ass, take a look at moderns pro tour this year and every year
@fabioferreira85382 күн бұрын
Nice video friend, I loved hearing from both of you. I been liked a lot your videos and deck tech you have, such good job, much better than some cedh KZfaq creators That don't bring anything new to the formats, and don’t help new cedh players. Thanks Lemoras🐟 and Eric 🐉
@LemorasCards2 күн бұрын
@fabioferreira8538 glad you enjoyed it! Doing my best!
@AreJay20063 күн бұрын
What do we think about Malcolm / Tana. I'm building it now as my first cEDH deck. I never seem to see it on any lists but it still seems so strong. Am I missing something?
@LemorasCards3 күн бұрын
@AreJay2006 still can do the thing and a pretty good choice as a first deck. It's just not popping off in the tournament scene like it used to.
@AreJay20063 күн бұрын
@@LemorasCards do you think the decks popularity is due to there being a lot of other choices or is it more just because there are too many other decks you could consider "strictly better". Thanks for getting back to me by the way :)
@LemorasCards3 күн бұрын
@AreJay2006 right now it has to deal with the popularity of faster decks than it, which it can struggle with because it isn't inherently trying to be very reactive, while also handling the slower decks that run lots of ways to deal with creature combos and incidental hate like bowmasters. It can also draw a lot of hate because people don't want to let Malcolm stick out of fear of the combo, so you have to work to protect him both with your spells and your words.
@AreJay20063 күн бұрын
@@LemorasCards ahhh okay. That all makes perfect sense. Thanks again!! Love the content. Keep it coming!
@LemorasCards3 күн бұрын
@@AreJay2006 of course! Thank you!
@leeveye333 күн бұрын
Really interesting in seeing an episode about preparation for tournaments, and how going about in a tournament is for you guys. Great video as per usual
@LemorasCards3 күн бұрын
@leeveye33 thank you! Definitely looking to cover some of that soon.
@leeveye333 күн бұрын
@@LemorasCards hell yeah, keep up the good work
@devonsansoucy27023 күн бұрын
I’m trying to figure out how to correctly play Rog/Si. Is it viable using to make and equipment deck with?
@LemorasCards3 күн бұрын
Not for cEDH for sure, though Rograkh is pretty popular for those casual voltron decks.
@TripsAhoy3 күн бұрын
All good decks....none compare to my Gaddock Teeg deck tho! 😂 ❤❤❤
@Surberus10663 күн бұрын
Glad to see this one came to the pod! I get most of your stuff when I'm in the car, and while I know you can't put everything out in both spaces, I do wish more stuff was on the pod.
@sunday.scaries8713 күн бұрын
Yeah the Oswald deck it’s got untappers for value and it uses the kci loops to win the game Kci + scrap trawler + myr retriever and an artifact that draws a card in hand and one in grave is infinite mana infinite card draw But you have to announce your intent to cast the one in hand and pay for it with the kci sacing both trawler and retriever so that you get an extra trawler trigger Look up kci combos on KZfaq for more combos
@dustinjackson82703 күн бұрын
Didn’t even bother with the video see title then see Stella Lee 😂
@LemorasCards3 күн бұрын
@dustinjackson8270 then I guess you'll never know why it's there!
@CptnHowdy24753 күн бұрын
Unban Griselbrand!
@fernandob22753 күн бұрын
Most dominant cedh decks...where?
@LemorasCards3 күн бұрын
@@fernandob2275 in cEDH tournaments?
@LateTeens7093 күн бұрын
Why dont you watch the video? Crazy idea i know.
@thmsdrew3 күн бұрын
I enjoy all of the content, keep it up! The algo hungers!
@LemorasCards3 күн бұрын
@@thmsdrew thank you! Happy to hear it!
@andrewkelley60393 күн бұрын
shukos up! if Nadu gets banned in a 4player format the game is WEAK. ADAPT. OVERCOME
@untilthewheelsfalloff17513 күн бұрын
They’re not all the best players. From what I’ve seen it’s the best stallers. Take away Swiss scoring and we will see. Seen, played against, and watched others play against them and I’m not impressed.
@jcdyminz7013 күн бұрын
Yet they all play better than you 😴
@untilthewheelsfalloff17513 күн бұрын
@@jcdyminz701 how would you know? Truly? Or are you just bored picking fights?
@jcdyminz7013 күн бұрын
@untilthewheelsfalloff1751 you not denying it is how I know. You saying you're not impressed when their stats prove they're damn good players shows me you're just upset you struggle at your lgs to win games.
@untilthewheelsfalloff17513 күн бұрын
@@jcdyminz701 sike lol I never struggle but if you weren’t so narrow minded you understand what I’m talking about
@nealcrabtree36473 күн бұрын
I'm here to praise Magda ❤
@cheekski64333 күн бұрын
It is so much fun, I love being the Magda player in pods. Like you just get so much respect cause they know how dangerous you can be lolz
@nealcrabtree36473 күн бұрын
@cheekski6433 and its always cute when they keep killing Magda and it usually doest matter.