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"You were the chosen one. It was said that you would destroy the BUS not join them"

Comment section is like: Trupen: this design is good for your startup (first playthroughs) Commenters: this doesn't scale to interplanetary levels of production, bad advice

I am disappointed that the diagonal bus did not get enough screen time :(

The Factory Must Grow.

Whenever I play Factorio I REFUSE to build my base with anything but city/modular blocks just to give myself an excuse to use a hundred trains and instill the fear of god on anyone who even dares to try and cross a train track

it is crazy the trupen's preferred mainbus setup is exactly the same as mine. This video makes me want to start a fresh run of factorio but i dont have 1000 hours left in my life.

Hey Trupen, just wanted to let you know that your videos totally aimed me to accept this game into my heart and once I finish the tutorial I'm buying the game. So both thanks and a screw you from future me, since I'm probably gonna disappear from my friends and family in the time I'm playing this.

What can i say. Thanks for your work. Because of you i've stopped making spaghetti from my belts and started making BUS. It;s just so easy to grow and making just tranches to main one. I think it was from your material or short but i've learned about item reservation in cargo. Keep going :)

Your smelting beacons are aligned with the furnaces, making them less effective. Move them one to the left or the right. Personally I prefer the priority splitter approach. If I don't have enough resources, I need to add resources. Consider adding a part about resupplying the bus in the middle.

so glad your back, love the effort in your videos!❤

Having just about finished the AA/Bob's seablock challenge, I can say that the main bus is great up until a mall at the end. Once you need a megabase to continue, trains take over but are supported by a very efficient bus-fed mall.

well thanks for the advice, and contrary to all of it, ive now been inspired to start a new playthrough and make a main bus where I put every single item in the game on it.

watched some other tutorials but yours is clearer and you put it in a way your explanations makes sense! great work

This is a certified Trupen classic

I really like 3 tile gaps between bus lanes because it’s easier to put down powerlines, roboports, and balancers

A reminder that priority splitters are better than belt balancers, as belts with no gaps use less UPS.

I put splitters AFTER taking items off the belt, not before. This ensures there is always a full belt one side. Just personal preference

Trupen god damn your editing only ever improves. love the videos

Fantastic video as always, Trupen! Love me a bus :)

thanks man, appreciate it.

4:55 hell yeah brother!

You can stage your bus for different "levels" of recepies. For example, raw stone used directly not very offten, so there is little sense to put it on the bus and stretch it to the point where you turn it into rails and concrete. You can always designate some empty space for those assemblers in the begining and wave some spaghetti back.

Pretty helpful, thanks!

I like to put four tiles of space between my lanes so that there's space for roboports and extra belt shenanigans. I do recommend putting gears on the bus but not adjacent to gear wheels since they're often used together and pulling from both sets of lanes can get messy very fast.

5:03 *Eagles screaming* It's so beautiful........

I demand a video for Krastorio 2 ;-) Thx for your video. Liked and subbed

Thank you, great video! Are you going to make a video about city blocks in the future?

Played twice without a main bus and didn't finish, first time I tried it I went all the way to the end. Its really worth it honestly, it helps so much in making you build things simple by having all you need in one area constantly. Edit: 6:07 ahhh now THAT is what I have been looking for, thanks Trupen! To be honest when I tried out space exploration mod for some reason I decided to put every single intermediate product onto this massive gigantic bus that had nearly every item in the game on it to craft with, only to realise you can't even shoot most of them with the cannons anyway and I realised what a large waste of time I had done as it was very unbalanced xD

Another trupen upload, another good day ❤

Not really sure on the recent comments here but wanted to say thank you again for this video and showing me how to belt balance. If not for you, i'd have never beaten the game with rampant settings.

i remember in my 3rd or 4th save i decided to do a spiral main bus for some reason. i still go back to that save just to look at it sometimes

For building the main bus, I HIGHLY suggest ALLOTING space for 8 lanes of the main resources (iron and copper, even if you START with only 4 lanes from the supply area. This enables you to UPGRADE your bus later... just make sure you keep track of which direction you've alloted for the expansion of the main resources. Alternatively, you can reserve space midway into the factory deesign (on either side of the bus) for INSERTION balancing. this TOPS up buses that maybe have fewer lanees devoted to a resource that get partially depleted earlier on in the bus, but you do not want to devote extra lanes for (for the entire length of the bus).

I literally was looking for this video 2 days ago and here it is

Amazing video

dzięki wielkie przyda się

grejt tutorial, gut dżob!

Now this, I do like. Just comprehensible information chewed up and ready to be consumed by my smooth brain.

Tank you.

Instructions unclear: placed 6 full blue belts of production 3 modules on the bus and now my iron and copper consumption has risen from items per minute to patches per second.

this man is a genius

i love the way you say "lube" i just adore it it sounds so cute

7:22 Trupen, come on, you don't have to put an output priority to the splitter sending the materials from the bus to the crafting area. That's just silly I don't know who taught you that. You only put output priorities on the splitters on the bus itself, and you put them AFTER the extraction splitter in the exact other order you put them in. If you do it right, the priority method is much better than the 4x4 balanced solution. Assume 4 belts of a material, belt 1 is the one you always take away from, belt 4 is the one furthest away from that. After the normal splitter that moves material to the crafting area, put a splitter on belt 1 & 2 with output priority to 1, then a splitter on belt 2 & 3 with priority to 2 and lastly a splitter on belt 3&4 with priority to 3. That way, belt 1 will always be filled to the max, no matter how far down the bus you go (unless you use up all 4 belts of material, of course, but that's an issue for both designs). Nothing like "the first crafting area gets all the material" nonesense.

Hello Trupen, I've recently started factorio and really enjoy your guides. Was wondering when the smelting video is coming out?! It's been 10 days! I've gone through the other beginner guide and was wondering how to make smelting/belt/efficiencies etc. Thank you!

Ah that 5 second intro perfectly encapsulates both playing factorio and programming.

I prefer not balancing the main bus because building an efficient factory is all about handling bottlenecks. As the first assembling areas provide things for the next ones, if you don't feed them to their max capacity, they become the bottleneck. Givining them the max input possible ensures their output is saturated by what consumes it, i.e. back pressure. If your bus is not capable of providing to the last assembling areas, then your bus is the bottleneck, and it's time to upgrade it. Note that I haven't played in a while.

Nothing will stop me from going all SPAHETTI for the first 100 hours of gameplay! It tastes just gudder! Gotta love an organic base. But nice tutorial nevertheless :)

Thank you! I changed my viewpoint 360 degrees.

I have found it's important to just let players spaghetti... I launched my first rocket from a spaghetti base after playing for 350 hours (not all in the same file). Tbh I had a blast making that spaghetti base. But i did it, and doing that let me reach parts of the game i hadnt reached before which helped to give vision on how i could make the base expandable in certain ways, learn about resource flow control, and also understand the key points in the game when you need stuff. So before i let myself do the spaghetti base, i would get caught up trying to plan ahead and leave space for new research, but then I'd start a new file and spend the first 8 hours setting up like 4 iron, 4 and 2 steel furnaces and then building an enormous bus, and then never make any progress cos it'd be 8 hours and i still havent reached black science. But now i build and i know where I'll need stuff later. I know how many iron/copper/steel lanes i need and when I i need them, so now i have reverted to building in my usual main bus style but it's 100x faster cos i know where I will or won't need stuff later. So just let players spaghetti... Sooner or later the spaghetti will hit a brick wall cos you need to pull more out of the factory but you're at your limit cos of bad planning. People need to experience that for themselves

I started playing factorio and just finished the tutorial, I thought I'm getting a hold of it but when I saw this video, I'm like bruh what is this, do I need to know all this?, I'm having an information overload 😂

A very good video, except for one small mistake. Trupen forgot the ultimate bus method... the inserter bus that also uses inserters to split🥵. We may be a small community, but like the illumin.. I mean like Reddit, WE CONTROL EVERYTHING from the shadows and everyone shall eventually kneel before us.

My current run has something resembling a bus setup, but with only one belt per item, and I'm starting to enter Spaghetti-Land again now as I start petrochem. I'm looking at a rebuild, and it's good to know that there's a standard for bus width and some solid recommendations for what to actually put on the bus. Cheers!

Tank you

well this is handy maybe my base wont be spagetti this time

main bus is definitely best for starting but I prefer more modular stuff later on

I am going to binge these tutorials to figure out how to play the game since I plan to get it soon.

YEEEES I am not the only BUS person, I even have main and side bus

Thanks for the help! I was thinking about replaying factorio, I loaded my old base and I was so overwhelmed by my spaghetti design lmao. I'm going to start a new game, any advice for the beginning? :)

My orevious couple runs ive tried to be super orgabized abd efficient. I just started a run lately with the intention of making my base as dense and spaghettified as possible. I want to feel like a tech priest of mars -- i dont know how it works after a certain point, but the machine god demands i maintain and grow the monstrosity. Its super fun so far

My friends insist that every space in our factory must be covered by roboports so after that playthrough I just put three spaces between the belts by instinct. Really helps though if you want to snake something through the belts temporarily

The best design for OUR factory, for spreading peace in the world

I want Trupen to be the dictator of my country Economic growth would be unprecedent

I don't place sulfur on the the bus, because it can be made where it is needed with just one or two plants and with just liquid inputs. Gears on the bus have some merit, because they need less space than the iron place they are made of, but they only need iron to make and almost everything that needs gears also needs iron, so you can just place another iron belt instead. As for liquids, I place water, petroleum, light oil and lubricant, since we have established 4 is a good number. Water is used in many recipes and so is petroleum. Sulfuric acid can be made from water, petroleum and iron, so I don't put it on the bus. The only thing heavy oil is used for is lubricant, so I might as well put the lubricant on the bus. Light oil is used to make train fuel, rocket parts and is great for flamethrowers, so it goes on the bus as well.

Great... now im confused even more on what to do.

Tbh factorio was more fun before I learnt what a main bus was. Now every play through is some variant of a main bus and I have to force myself to spagettify it a little so keep it interesting. Or try rush to trains and go straight into a train heavy base

I only recently got into Factorio so I'm not 100% sure how you would work with the 1/2 stone and 1/2 brick bus line, so if anyone can explain it to my smooth brain that'd be great love your videos Trupen!

Lord Trupen is back

Now I want a video with all type of spaghetti, other than Carbonara and Bolognese, maybe an amatriciana or scoglio

I personally prefer an approach I like to call micro-modules. 2x2 or 2x3 chunks with dedicated trains, which specializes in the production of one particular component.

Have you thought about trying to achieve the "Finisterra" achievement? It's "simple", technically the map is finite (although as big as Australia), so you have to get to the edge. An estimate I have heard is that a train from the center of the map to the edge would take 4 hours to make the trip.

I would not say bus is THE best. But it is good, especially if you do not know all the recipes yet. But whatever you do, do not put copper cable on a bus. That is just a crime. Good and fun video!

I’m more of a beautiful spaghetti chef myself but I want to try and get more efficient so I’ll try this

Thanks for this, my SEK2248K5Dim run was starting to get a bit messy

I've personally abandoned the main bus concept, myself. It requires too much planning and forethought that wastes more of my time and energy playing the game than I actually spend on playing the game. It also tends to require a LOT of contiguous space that I can't always find for it, as well. I've started moving towards using trains as my primary resource delivery system, and then a sort of mini-bus for the shopping mall. With trains, I can put manufacturing wherever I want to or wherever there's space, and then trains can just bring the input resources in and ship the output resources out to wherever they're needed.

But don't forget. Spaghetti are tasty and nutritious, while busses are really bad for your health.

Yaaa baby what is what we were waiting for that what it was all about yoooo

You can definitely notice some Italian vibe with four "t" in spagetttti 😂

When are we getting the ultimate train guide and when if ever will I get the ltn train guide also great video

IMHO red chips, blue chips & low density should have dedicated copper, and dedicated circuit assemblers. Using trains to balance the ore or plates. Plastic should also be made just in time, as one belt of coal can make 2 belts of plastic, saving space in the bus. If you build your crafting on one side of the bus, you can then build rail stations on the other side to bring in more plates directly where they are needed.

Please make a video for train city blocks

That fucking killed me when you said us Americans want to put guns and oil on the bus 😂 i loved the delivery of that line

i have a question, do i build a balancer for the bus after every single time i use one of the belts? like if i use iron for green science, and use a splitter to take it out of the bus, do i build i balancer right after it every single time?

Hmm, a bus. Naw I'm gonna keep doing spagetrains. I do kinda use busses early but typically 1 or 2 lanes iron 1 lane copper and 1 lane steel. In my dangOREus playthrough I'm adding stone coal and bricks making coal and steel on the same belt, then bricks and stone on the same belt.

finally main bus fish lane

thx bcus i am kinda new and always when i say to myself i can buit main bus! after 2sec i say idk what am i doin

спасибо

i really really really want to see a base built around a diagonal bus.....

Why balance a bus? If you need to put butter on 4 toasts but you only have enough for 1 toast, does it matter if all 4 toasts are equally 25% covered? No, you should just go get more butter.

There's a huge downside to having a main bus. You spend a lot of time splitting and merging into the bus. And you always end up with a deficit or excess on the bus, both are a waste of resources and building fatigue. Sometimes it's better to specialize in a certain output from raw(er) materials in outposts, without necessarily going into spaghetti. And you start doing that when you have trains, which you can get to rather quickly in vanilla factorio so there's really no point in making a super fleshed out main bus until you've also research railroads. And then, there will be many smaller main buses for the bigger outposts. Where MANY trains feed raw resources into the outpost and fewer trains take the very compressed outputs of those outposts and they all converge into another outpost that makes even more advanced items. In summary, make smaller and more specialized buses in outposts design for mass production of much higher end items. Don't split off iron plates from the main bus to make gears and then putting them back on the bus. Instead take iron plates and make gears into engine units and then two thirds of those engine units electric engine units. The raw resources going into that outpost will be Iron Plates, Copper Plates and Lubricant. The output is Engine Units which you feed into your science outpost and Electric Engine Units which are fed into your Flying Robot Frame outpost. And once you get construction robots, it's better to make iron plates and their direct descendants at the iron ore patch instead of feeding raw iron ore into a central smelter array. But not before you get construction robots! Then you can strip out the making of gears and steel at the engine unit outpost, which reduces the amount of stuff you have to transport by A LOT. 2 Iron plates becomes one iron gear, so that's a 2:1 reduction. 5 Iron plates becomes one steel plate so that's a 5:1 reduction. Overall, you'll be shipping 1/6th the number of iron plates around. In fact, i hate main buses with a passion as the amount of extra work you put into making one could just as well be spend rushing science for railroads and construction bots and then you can make nice outposts and also reduce the amount of stuff you need to transport by doing the most of the processing closer to ore fields. Another downside to main buses is that your base tends to be needlessly MASSIVE. Which means you are setting up base defenses for a HUGE area just so you can have some nicely defined spacings between your production sectors around your main bus. If you make outposts instead, you will make compact built to purpose production facilities and have a tight wall around that facility for protection. Your defenses become tighter and more efficient.

Carbonara ❤

I recommend to build also a road along the main bus. With a road you may use a car to move around fast. But it's necessary to build walls on both sides of the road in order to avoid damaging stuff with your car.

im 60 hours into my first playthru and ive been using 1 belt for iron this entire time, i had to demolish like half my base to upgrade my main bus lol

spaghetti for life 💯🦍

С каждой новой игрой моя шина всё больше, но по итогу надо переделывать )

THAAANKS for new video! Finally kurwa mać

bus = more efficient, spaghetti belts = art form. you know, im somewhat of an artist engineer so i use main bus and crafting area becomes spaghetti

when i watched i deconstructed my factory adn started over, also it was invaded by biters

I honestly miss the days I didn't know about main bus. Now I can't spaghetti anymore.

Trupen, there is 42.000 likes under your video about speedrunning factorio, Where the second part?

All your oil are belong to U.S.