The Best Dogfighter ? | F-16C Viper Vs YF-23 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator

The Best Dogfighter ? | F-16C Viper Vs YF-23 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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@GrowlingSidewinder 28 күн бұрын

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@GeneralPadron 28 күн бұрын

Apparently, DCS doesn't know the capabilities of the YF-23 Widowmaker.

@firebald2915 28 күн бұрын

"It's not the plane, it's the ejection seat." - Martin-Baker

@Sajuuk 28 күн бұрын

The YF23, the F22's bane.

@yuuzyerbrejn9603 28 күн бұрын

We once watched an F-16 Viper demo pilot do a 350 knot 9g circle WITHIN the forest boundaries of the runways of the local airport in Florida- Titusville in this case. I couldn't freakin believe it!

@Anarchy_420 27 күн бұрын

Please create a Vid with The A-10C & F-15E while on the same team competing! In the sense that you'll not really looking out for each other, trying to get the most kills (+important kills), and of course survive! VS Couple Mi-24's, few Iglas, Strela, Tunguska, SA-5, and couple SU-25's! Plus provide ground support VS .50 Technical Trucks, BTR's, BMP's, T-72's, and couple T-90's!🙏👍

@jbc242424 28 күн бұрын

I want to see YOU in that YF-23!

@EB-Ghost6 28 күн бұрын

bro probably just foretold the future

@_vortech_ 28 күн бұрын

YAS!!!!!!

@AdRxElite 28 күн бұрын

Generally these modded aircraft tend not to have fleshed out interiors and are otherwise pretty barebones and GS has a history of staying away from that for the most part.

@_vortech_ 28 күн бұрын

@AdRxElite I did not know that. So, all we need is for someone to 3D build a cockpit and to have the avionics written up for each system.

@drewparcel1727 28 күн бұрын

I have been hoping to see GS in the black widow every time I see a video dropped that features it. Now I just see it at a running joke. How many videos will GS drop of the f23 where he doesn’t even fly it. I’ve heard that many mods will use cockpits out of other jets and I would be willing to look past that.

@manzelli1981 28 күн бұрын

I love these head to heads against Toxic. Dude can fight.

@NoName-yl1js 28 күн бұрын

who is toxic? im always curious about this guy bcs he seems like a worthy opponent for gs

@ghostrowbot3189 28 күн бұрын

Came here to say the same dude can fly.

@FuzedBox 28 күн бұрын

That Br3aker7 guy he fought against yesterday was really, really good and he seemed to know exactly how GS's mind works. He was a scary opponent that I'd like to see more of.

@otterconnor942 26 күн бұрын

It would be hilarious if toxic was using a Xbox controller to beat GS

@xeiroe_gaming 28 күн бұрын

take a drink every time GS says "circle" i lasted about 6 minutes. posting this from heaven

@mk6315 28 күн бұрын

I survived but my urine now has an octane rating

@Ayeshteni 28 күн бұрын

Iii'mm aa fiyne, I muy bee a liddl druunk............

@Missile_Guidance_System482 27 күн бұрын

Heujeneejsisgeyyhehehshhehhhhhuuuuuuhhhhh......???? I'm sober now. Never doing that again...

@happyduckling8401 27 күн бұрын

Segutxvtexxsaz

@lewiemotorsports3616 28 күн бұрын

Yf23 is such a scary but beautiful looking bird.

@maximan4363 28 күн бұрын

I love the YF-23!!! It should have won against the YF-22, both are utterly outstanding!!!! Yep the unloaded F-16 is an amazing dogfighter - it's what it was made for!! What NGAS can do will be fecking scary!!!

@benn454 28 күн бұрын

At least you got revenge for the headshots by making Toxic eject straight into the ground in the last round.

@grovermatic 28 күн бұрын

Props to whoever was piloting the Black Widow... that wasn't just dogfighting, that was aerial ballet.

@devanarayans5131 27 күн бұрын

Exactly it was simply beautiful.. The f22 could never

@SM-qo9gr 28 күн бұрын

GS be like "im chasing his tail" WHILE HAVING BANDIT ON HIS TAIL!😂

@noahhastings6145 28 күн бұрын

"I'm 350° off his tail!"

@Ifoughtpiranhas 28 күн бұрын

It's cool to see the cannon shells exploding on the ground as GS "walks" his stream of 20mm into the YF-23. Such great details the programmers accomplished in this sim.

@hkguitar1984 28 күн бұрын

7:54, Civilian Potato Cam? I Like it!

@nicomeier8098 28 күн бұрын

If I recollect correctly, the YF23 had better IR stealth and radar stealth, as well as higher super cruise and more range then the YF22, but was more an interceptor then a dog fighter.

@Xenomorphine 28 күн бұрын

Also had at least one fatal flaw. Plus, the USAF was not happy about Northrop's dodgy behaviour, regarding B-2 funds.

@recoilrob324 28 күн бұрын

IIRC the YF-23 did not have a functioning weapons bay and could not launch missiles as the YF-22 had already done....and there was a lot of concern that the fuselage structure would be compromised when the weapons bay was cut out. The composite structure was still experimental where the YF-22 made of proven materials and techniques....the AF likes 'Evolutionary' rather than 'Revolutionary' aircraft designs that they can have high confidence they won't run into insurmountable issues during development.

@baremetalmafia 28 күн бұрын

Do not be surprised if you notice huge similarities with the YF-23 and the NGAD when we finally see it.

@Xenomorphine 28 күн бұрын

@@baremetalmafia Why would there be? It's obsolete technology. Northrop isn't known to have won the NGAD contract, either. Any similarities would be superficial and cosmetic, at absolute best.

@earlwoody777 28 күн бұрын

I love you when you get a cockpit shot your voice cuts out too, makes it all the more funny lmao. Love you GS

@WesterGuard 28 күн бұрын

"5th generation pilot face targeting system." LOL!! 😆🤣😆

@luckyno888 28 күн бұрын

YF-23 looks like the deadliest flying squirrel.

@rocketpunchgo1 27 күн бұрын

You know it's going to be a good fight when Toxic is at the stick.

@DeeSnow97 28 күн бұрын

the F-16 is such an amazing aircraft. looks like with no blunders in this match-up it should win every time, but the YF-23 is so unforgiving, it really demands the same respect as the F-22

@davidgeorge5531 28 күн бұрын

Just went to the Air Force museum in Dayton. They have a YF-23 it is so amazing

@confuse3671 28 күн бұрын

Reality - the F23 RCS from all aspects was so low that your RADAR gun sight would have troubles keeping him locked. Think about about that for a while.

@MTEditz 28 күн бұрын

Thats the purpose of the dynamic gun funnel. If you don't have lock then you put the tips of each wing in the funnel and shoot. Same results, just takes a little more skill. Also not how rcs works. Once you're WVR the RCS is so close that any capable plane can get a lock. They'll just lose the lock frequently during the maneuvers.

@Someth1n_ 28 күн бұрын

Not when ur eyes can see it lol stealth fighter not invisible fighter

@themanhimself6696 28 күн бұрын

@@Someth1n_ He wasn't talking about the stealth, he was talking about ground interference.

@hanrockabrand95 28 күн бұрын

The recent update also makes grass wave in the jetwash behind the runway. It looks so cool

@raz4371 28 күн бұрын

Trees also flex when explosions go off near them

@hanrockabrand95 28 күн бұрын

@@raz4371 As do I when they go off near me 💪

@kugelblitzkrieg 28 күн бұрын

Love that image you put up for the 1 circle, definitely would be useful for people who don’t know much about dogfighting. The camera shot was awesome too!

@firebald2915 28 күн бұрын

Thanks for the ground view video camera work on the Round 2 kill shot, GS. F16 has my heart.

@realitysux_0128 28 күн бұрын

The YF-23 looks like a sugar glider in mid-flight from certain aspects

@bradschumer173 28 күн бұрын

Yes!! more YF-23 content, please.

@MrErictank 28 күн бұрын

2:2 with a fifth-Gen, not too shabby at all. That third-round clip from aft of the -23 as he shot you down was GORGEOUS, though. Such a beautiful fighter.

@_vortech_ 28 күн бұрын

Thank you for doing my request. I was not really expecting this would happen. It would be interesting to see how you would manage the fight if you were in the YF-23 though. Pretty sure you'll come out on top each round.

@viktorbihar5384 27 күн бұрын

I like how the 2 circle fight is visualized with the 2 best 2 circle fighters, the F-16 and the Mig 29, very cool.

@GermanBlackSheep 28 күн бұрын

Love that replay camera overlay

@OutlawLotus 27 күн бұрын

I feel like your opponent has spent some time in the Black Widow II and mastering the unique quirks of its high lift body. The amount of ground effect such a flat belly can produce is absolutely uncanny, and there were a number of times you saw him take advantage of that. That's someone who really enjoys that plane and committed a lot of time to mastering it. That was a really entertaining fight between you two.

@PhillipChalabi 28 күн бұрын

I like the Raptor, I really do. But it was a travesty that the 22 won that competition.

@happysunk7142 28 күн бұрын

thank you for putting the 1-circle and 2-circle diagrams in the video, that's extremely helpful to see once in a while!

@dl6519 27 күн бұрын

The YF-23 has the outlawed hourglass on the bottom! GREAT detail!!

@GrowlingSidewinder 27 күн бұрын

nice to see someone knows the story there and also noticed the detail.

@dl6519 27 күн бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder Nice to see someone who can turn 'n' burn with a YF-23 in an F-16 and win half the time!

@pyronuke4768 27 күн бұрын

@@dl6519 GS said it himself: the F-16 doesn't care what the opponent brings, it can almost always out rate them.

@mattbowe5618 27 күн бұрын

The 1 and 2 circle graphics that you've added to the last couple of videos are helpful.

@harveycasey1900 28 күн бұрын

That f23 looks like a flying squirrel

@Lew_in_Renton 28 күн бұрын

LOVE the red and blue descriptions of circle fighting! Thanks!

@richardstoffel6585 28 күн бұрын

I was at Edward’s when the real yf-23 was up flying with f-16’s as chase … good times.

@jf9458 28 күн бұрын

“Flying squirrel”

@CarsonMiller-Raven-7 26 күн бұрын

That camera effect was really cool, I would love to see that again! Also again amazing video GS.

@EnvyEclipse 28 күн бұрын

Small details like the camera filter makes GS vids so great haha great video brother

@iTzNexXuS 28 күн бұрын

This makes me want to see a dogfight between the YF-23 and the Su-47

@alexhunt2322 27 күн бұрын

The “from the ground” perspective is pretty cool! Would love to see more shots like that!

@airbuzzer3306 27 күн бұрын

Big thank you for bringing back the dogfight. I enjoy it very much ☺️

@gwenthor 28 күн бұрын

I'm really looking forward to seeing you in the cockpit of the YF-23.

@mbarnlund 28 күн бұрын

It would be nice to have an explainer video on how to interpret ‘the funnel’ & related HUD indicators, when gunning a bandit. Great content as always!

@Delzona 28 күн бұрын

So cool to see aircraft when they are from bases that I was assigned to during my 26 years in the Air Force! Nice to see the Spangdahlem AB F-16 hold it's own against the YF-23.

@The_Elder_Weeb 26 күн бұрын

It amazes me every time how good of a pilot you are!

@libertylivesin1776 28 күн бұрын

That was some slick maneuvering before the first ending.

@christopherjpfaff8460 27 күн бұрын

great match up and fight, good laughs, amazing video, thank you!

@commandergeokam2868 28 күн бұрын

That camera effects on 8:00 + mins were golden if can use them again do it even in black and white with older aircraft

@Krommer1000 28 күн бұрын

Liked the new "Kill Cam".

@ThePenguin30 28 күн бұрын

It's always a good day when GS uploads

@zevermoon 28 күн бұрын

YF-22 is weird because it's a 2 circle vertical fighter similar to a F-15. You always want a height advantage. If you get in trouble you want to reverse into a high altitude climb followed by a roll over dive onto the bandit. It's a weird aircraft it doesn't have the thrust vector to one circle fight.

@magiscichoam 28 күн бұрын

Outstanding ACM! The better Pilot prevailed (albeit barely). Bravo!

@Bumblebee7113 28 күн бұрын

Hey GS, if you have time in a video, could you talk about the different HUDs in different fighters? I find sometimes it's hard to follow which reticle is which when looking at the HUDs.

@TheGoddamnBacon 28 күн бұрын

The Popcorn Cam in the second duel was a nice touch.

@ScotsmanDougal 28 күн бұрын

"ejection, inverted, nto the ground ....." Isn't that your trick? haha

@nielsbosmobile 28 күн бұрын

Great video again. I always enjoy them! Btw, can you load tracer rounds in the F16? It would make it even more exciting, seeing how much rounds are off-target? Thanks!

@311Bob 28 күн бұрын

3 rounds switch planes each round to eliminate plane advantage and showcase pilot skill.pilots start with their favorite and end in their favorite

@charlieoscar09 27 күн бұрын

One of the closest contests so far....Both very good piloting

@davidpalmer4184 27 күн бұрын

Good work GS, I love the YF-23. Imagine if they used variable thrust in the trials, they had already nailed speed, stealth and range for a stealth fighter, they just didn't have the maneuverability in close combat. Considering the Government wasn't looking for a dog fighter it is such a shame that they moved the goal posts.

@jasonvick55 28 күн бұрын

Very impressive fight!

@ravstar52 26 күн бұрын

The easiest way I have to remember the difference between one and two circle is the number of planes in the circle. In a two circle, there are two planes doing a circle/orbit. In a one circle, there's one plane per circular orbit.

@sana-cm7oc 27 күн бұрын

Great video. Excellent fight. Great job Toxic - makes for better video having 2 good pilots. F-22 with 3 F-35 vs Su-37 and 3 Su-47.

@JoeKier7 28 күн бұрын

Very cool that the YF-23 has the hour glass on the bottom!

@SeaWasp 26 күн бұрын

The YF-23 must have been equipped with the war crime targeting pod, what with the pilot snipes! Maybe that was the clincher when it came down to which aircraft was chosen. Great fights!

@isaacwest 28 күн бұрын

that's the first time i've seen GS take the pylons off the wings for better performance. yf-23 had him shook. :D

@burhanilyas 28 күн бұрын

Fighter from 70's still ruling

@UpcycleShoesKai 27 күн бұрын

Man, the Rate Fight does work.

@Mav09 28 күн бұрын

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 4

@michagysin3082 28 күн бұрын

I love your videos so much!

@sonofvirginia 28 күн бұрын

Loving the F16 videos.

@MidnightAspec 28 күн бұрын

Let’s see a Checkmate vs Black Widow showdown! 😁

@Kcco03_ 28 күн бұрын

He did such a good job

@moistmike4150 27 күн бұрын

Hey GS - Dat last fight... You got some holes in yer plane.

27 күн бұрын

How about the heaviest possible configuration for the F-16 versus the lightest possible configuration for the A-10 in a dogfight using just the machine gun?

@donnieweston3249 28 күн бұрын

I must say I do love the Viet Nam era camo

@georgewashing10 27 күн бұрын

The merge on fight 3 looks like it put you in an offset 2-circle, rather than an overlapping one.

@radioactive9861 26 күн бұрын

I believe it was Kelly Johnson, or somebody else famous in the 'modern aircraft world'(ie, familiar with current aircraft tech) who said: "the YF23 is still flying today, in some shape or form"... That could mean a lot of things(if true), such as: the military took some of the YF23 tech and put it into the F35, or the B21, or maybe NGAD...mytwocents

@F23GreyGhost 27 күн бұрын

Always love to see the YF-23. Would love to see it vs the other lifting body, the Su-57 in a dogfight

@erikcourtney1834 28 күн бұрын

The black widow is literally a multi jet powered leaf.

@codychild2665 28 күн бұрын

Great fights!

@pyronuke4768 27 күн бұрын

Now you gotta take it up against a the other 70's American dogfighter, the Hornet

@usptact 28 күн бұрын

Toxic was sweating for sure in that black widow :D

@matthewjohnson6938 28 күн бұрын

Everyone say hi to the next best of deaths compilation vid

@firebald2915 28 күн бұрын

Lately, all compliments to Martin-Baker ejection seats into the ground.

@petersmith2112 27 күн бұрын

Looks fantastic although how accurate are the flight models with this type of plane (the yf-23) on DCS? Is it very clever people looking at the design of the plane and working out how they would actually fly? Whoever does it makes a fantastic job of it.

@steverichardson6920 27 күн бұрын

It would be interesting if the developers created a super YF 23 with vectored thrust just as a “what if” scenario just to see how good this platform could be 🤔

@Archer89201 27 күн бұрын

The silhouette of the YF-23 looks like a guy in a wing suit from far

@appledore 28 күн бұрын

Hi GS, For one of your future videos, can you fight against an F-16 with an aircraft of your choice (minus F-22 😅)? Would be cool and interesting to see how an F-16 can be defeated in a dogfight with only guns. Might be difficult, based on lots and lots of videos in which you are dominating with the F-16. But, you got this. 🤞

@appledore 28 күн бұрын

P.S.: Appreciate the explanation drawings. 👍

@clothpillow7218 28 күн бұрын

You should try Nuclear Option! It's like near-future DCS

@tgsgardenmaintenance4627 27 күн бұрын

Regardless of anything else, the YF-23 is a beautiful looking aircraft!!

@peteframe1047 24 күн бұрын

if DCS has the f8 crusader that would be cool to see you fly it, the real last GUNFIGHTER

@sgt.grinch3299 28 күн бұрын

I see the YF23 and I have to watch.

@1slotmech 28 күн бұрын

If we're going against Toxic, I always stay for the whole video. It's gonna be a good fight. 😂

@vicroc4 27 күн бұрын

He certainly gives GS a struggle.

@Dancing_Duck-sp8hq 28 күн бұрын

What’s the musical score in this dude’s vids?

@Hrtbrak1 25 күн бұрын

For all these fights against thr Widow II, it seems it can keep up with the F-16 until you make it bleed all of its airspeed. If it retains that advantage though, you have a hell of a time clawing a good position back.