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Agree, I'm an average guy and the handlebars feel too narrow.

Can you post a pic with the bars you put on?

Can that just be adjusted or do I need a special program for it?

Ugh yea that's pathetic.

I just adjusted the back brake so that i had to squeeze it pretty hard to get it to bite in this way the back braking was all regan and believe me it stopped the bike without need for a mechanical brake

@@gritred5500 I get what you're saying but I think its weird seeing a bike that expensive with a brake that cheap. I had those same xtech brakes on my voromotors roadrunner & they wore out after a few hundred miles. They became very spongy even though the pads were fine.

@@StuartGrand They're poorly bleed from the factory and its a non vented system so any amount of heat makes them very spongy and ineffective. Worse case is you get the brakes stuck on when they get too hot since the air cant vent out of it, it pushes the pistons in. I tried 4 pairs on my eagle pro only 1 caliper worked correctly and a second one after i bleed it. I went and bought decent shimano mechanical brakes instead.

I've been daily commuting on mine in LA for almost 2 years now and the brakes work great. You gotta remember the whole package is only a little over a hundred pounds and the front brake is super grippy for a vehicle that light. The rear brake is mostly just for slowing down and Regen anyway

Our pleasure. Thanks for always supporting the channel. I like where your head is at. Go big or go home!

Thanks!

i would say the rider being 200 pounds and them having the dirt tires instead of road play a factor. I just got an onyx recently with road tires and weigh 130 pounds and hit a gps rated 60 mph

Thanks! We have not had a chance to check out those e-bikes yet. Which one is your favorite?

@@freshlycharged that’s such a good question. There’s so much to like about each one and there are some cons as well. I really like the Lyric Graffiti because it has a powerful 2,500 watt nominal motor, great looking style points, excellent shocks and motorcycle level brakes, and the gates carbon like belt instead of a chain. And for what you get, the ability to do 38mph for even a big guy like me (6” 240lbs), you can’t beat the $3,600 price. It used to be $3,200. Look like they recently increased the price. Then you have the Sparkcycle Bandit. A true moped style Ebike because it comes stock with mirrors, turn signals front and rear, brake lights and headlights and a 2,000 watt nominal motor. You can achieve 38mph, but will need the rider to pedal assist. Big bonus, that the Lyric and HPC doesn’t have, rear shocks. Then lastly, the HPC. A wolf in sheep’s clothes. Can easily hit 45mph if you pay a little extra to upgrade to the 4,000 watt nominal motor. But man, this beast is EXPENSIVE. With upgraded battery, motor, and brakes, you’re easily looking at over $5,500! But nothing beats it’s shear power for an Ebike that weighs under 50lbs!!! My favorite m, given all that, is the Sparkcycle Bandit. If the Lyric Graffiti had rear shocks, I would easily choose that because it looks better and has more power.

Thanks!

How is your Zero? I bought a used FX 2022 with all the upgrades. Sold it four months later at a $4,000 loss because the support for my dealership and zero was horrendous. Zero is now my least favorite company I have ever been associated with, and the bike had so many issues and flaws. I have my deposit down on the Livewire Del Mar. I'm hoping Livewire is a real company, unlike zero. If you months ago 0 move its manufacturing to the Philippines and it literally liquidated its customer service department. Which makes sense. I hope your zero has been awesome for you, it's the most fun bike I've ever ridden in my life. But issue after issue, went through three different wheels and the spokes just snapped off like nothing. My bike cut out on me randomly in traffic while going 50 mph twice over the course of a few weeks. It took zero six weeks after my logs were sent in to tell me "we need photos of of your bike, to see the damage of the crash". There was no crash at all, I just wanted to know why my bike shuts down on me randomly while I'm riding. Selling that Zero for $4,000 loss was the greatest financial decision I've ever made in my life. Zero sucks. Cool product, with a lot of crappy components, and literally nonexistent customer service. zero is not a motorcycle company, they are company that makes a product and sells it. I sincerely hope they go bankrupt.

Yes!

Love it! Got any mods you recommend?

Everyone has a different opinion on that. None are really essential. You'll discover what you want to tweak or change

Lol, officer it is an ebike, it has pedals!

Bro it’s bigger than just that! Pedaling is fun too.!

I agree. Maybe in the city no one really cares but I live in the suburbs and the cops out here are gung ho. I’m pretty sure I would get pulled over on this thing. Even with the pedals, by definition (NYS), you’re limited to 750 watts and 20mph.

It's a feature to get the bike home in dead battery emergency not to trick cops

@@tomm2639 correct. Onyx gives you a title to take them out of the equation. It’s up to you to do the right thing or chance it. I’m sure they have a printed disclaimer that says something like “pedals are installed to allow mobility in the event of a discharged battery. Pedals are NOT installed to deceive law enforcement. Please check the legal requirements in your city, state or locality”.

It’s horribly uncomfortable off-road and feels like it will fall into a million pieces. Poorly engineered bike but fast in a straight line

We would love to check it out. They had reached out to us in the past.

Damn, if only they would fix their frame design. Pegs shouldn't be that far forward. Harder to wheelie and less stable at speed

Encourage them to contact us!

@@freshlycharged Will do.

That thing would be a solid contender if they didn't fuck up the motor/peg placement just like a Razor mx. Would be awful to jump with your center of gravity that close to front axle

Its all chinesium crap parts…an afterthought you really will just hear the chain make bad sounds if you try to pedal.

@@gritred5500 replace the parts to make it work better. Simple.

The fastest ebike we have reviewed on the channel!

Would not take it on a highway. It cannot do highway speeds. That 55 mph top speed is only for the first 10 minutes of riding on a fresh charge. The onyx RCR is notoriously known for leaving the factory with a speedometer that is inaccurate and telling you faster speeds than you are actually traveling at. Former owner here. Had it for 3k miles. Tons of fun. But would recommend everyone anything else to get instead of the onyx.

Thank for the tip!

Better late than never! 😅

It's due to the hub motor, they have bad low end torque but more in the mid range. Surron drivetrain uses a lower gear ratio for max low end torque

@@justinbogart278 you got it backward lower gear ratio with high acceleration but slower top end speed.

Ive ridden mine with a passenger many times, and with a big backpack but nowhere near that heavy. It can handle a huge amount of weight since its so ridiculously light for a vehicle that can go so fast

Got any suggestions?

@@freshlycharged Rambo, quietkat, Recon power bikes, juiced bikes, and Avention just to name a few. With so many options out there, I want to make sure I make the best purchase for my needs of power, range, durability and comfort with low costs. Thanks guys!

That only does faster acceleration. It won't affect top speed. I used to have one of these. Highly recommend you sell it and get a EUC.

It's an abandoned road so that's why we choose to do speed tests there.

There are no pedals on the Surron, so it's not technically street legal. This blurs the line between legality.

Whatchu Talkin Bout, Willis?

Good point. Unfortunately, ✨aesthetic✨

Well it is faster and has a bigger battery and for some looks better

@@Andrew-vt4jtthis isn’t street legal either without registering it.

Hi!

@@freshlycharged I love your channel. I have many electrical vehicles myself, which I need to do reviews for.

Look forward to your reviews. How's your air umbrella doing? Tell Allen I said hi!

@@freshlycharged 😀oh thanks for watching 👍 The Air Umbrella is great. I will tell Allen you said Hi!

Was just looking at a Royal Enfield the other day. Are they reliable that you know of?

The rehab brake will stop this bike without any help the mechanical rear brake is crappy and also I just used the regen to stop the bike perfectly.

Agree 😅

I have this bike the regen brake in the back stops this bike on a dime it’s not bad

I feel too big for it at 6 feet tall. It's fun and fast but not the most ergonomic.

hell no

Mag wheels would be sweet but it is already heavy. The good thing is the spokes are a lot more heavy duty than all the other ebikes we have reviewed on the channel. They are more like dirt bike spokes.

oddly enough I have seen some videos from Cali in particular where pedals saved the day. like 4 guys got tickets and the 5th guy had pedals and they him roll

If a super73 can pass, this should. Just keep it under 30 and they won't know its over 750watt.

REV Rides has financing with Katapult.

That’s what stopped me from getting it. And financing doesn’t mean you can afford it.

If you're not first, you're last! 💪

Hi Teddy!

Pedals, cranks, chain, battery, motor. Definitely checks all the boxes, it's an ebike.

How good does a suron look when it's impounded tho? sometimes pedals help out

@@greenwave819 u can get pedals for surons no? Pretty sure I seen some with them. Anyways, if you’re going 40-50+ mph I don’t think that matters anyways lmao

You look taste

Me

Wrong. On many points above lol. Byeee.

I'm glad to hear that you follow traffic laws to the letter. Such a relief that you never go 1mph above the speed limit in your 3000lb death machine.

@@justinbogart278 I mean he's advising people to use these things in a blatantly illegal manner. The whole point is that they're bicycles that can be ridden like motorcycles without license/insurance/registration (which is not true and definitely illegal), and he lies to the police about the bikes being like class 2 in every single encounter video.

You can actually. Stop being a negative Nancy.

that's sale price!!

Rip off

@@shanew7361 yeah. Looks like maybe $100 worth of parts. There is not much to that bike at all.

Do you have any literature on how fast is too fast? I want to get a 3A for my 52v 21Ah but not sure if it will decrease lifespan.