I see a lot of people asking how to play Indev so I’ll just put this here. You can check a certain setting in the official launcher that allows you to play older versions. However, I am reading that the official launcher apparently does not have any Indev versions! I use the Betacraft launcher to play old MC versions, including Indev. Here’s the download for the launcher: betacraft.uk/downloads The specific version I'm playing is Indev 20100219

@@dialko2596 The official Launcher has a version called "old_alpha indev". It has the screenshot feature.

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@@dialko2596 I absolutely need to play this version whichever it may be. downloaded the betacraft launcher but can't find the one (there's so many lol)

u home yet@@dialko2596

Yeah I was figuring that, they probably could get it working now, maybe it'll be one of the five features added in 2034

*by 2034

The mod Better Then Adventure has it, and it works well despite having infinite terrain / chunks

Well it might work well enough with currently rendered chunks and it could be added in a client side fabric/forge mod

@@ethronium7240 Yup, don't get me wrong you can cheese it to look through terrain but it's worth it for what it adds

Theses days ,I feel that we as fans are more creative than the developers and the creators.

@@CodyBloodface Maybe now that the entire world's economy rests on whether Minecraft brings Microsoft money, but this was Indev times

@@CodyBloodface I mean, a HUGE problem for the devs is purely "do the Execs approve of this, so we can actually do it?", especially when out of a year of "dev time", it's maybe 2 months at most of actual time working on the game :V

Anyone can make their own, as long as it doesn't say "Minecraft" on it then it's not violating copyright.

id get one of these as a mouse pad or deskmat 🤯

I imagine it would be based on your render distance

Or just add far horizons to the base game

​@@CH-mw6spI don't see how that would solve anything.

That's why I like Terraria much more than Minecraft. Red still loves his own game and he's still adding crazy innovate things like golf or shimmer. In the meantime, Microsoft, freakin' Microsoft(!), can't even rewrite laggy Minecraft to some more optimized engines.

Regardless of if it's good or bad nothing will ever feel like it did in the past, relative to the thing itself, that's just a fact. Sometimes it's better and sometimes it's worse, but no one should expect things to stay the same, because that's not really possible.

@@lethauntic wise words

@@SU76M Anything touched by big corporations turns into shit in matter of months/years. The best proof of that is modders are able to create optimizations mods that enchance minecraft rendering and framerate by 2x-4x which are essential for 500+ mod packs. They done it for free and mostly in one man army. Meanwhile corporations with billions of spare dollars are afraid to use even one penny to hire those mastermind modders because why would they? If microsoft will not do something they gonna do it themselfs anyway for free just like with anything created by bugthesda or any other big company.

​@@lethaunticI highly agree, and I think this is a sentiment people need to appreciate! A lot of the hard-core community wish Notch had remained, but I don't think that would work today the way it did when Minecraft was a small indie game run by a small business. With how quickly it's audience grew, the way development and communication would work was bound to change as well!

Would be great for iron, mountains are weirdly rare.

love the flower idea

... "dimensionality"? you mean dimension? (in the traditional meaning, not like overworld/nether/end)

just trying to understand what that was supposed to mean

no bro learn english@@realchiknuggets

@@JackWilke the fuck?

You can use certain commands to shrink the 30mil world border to wherever you want, including the space right around spawn. That gives you a pretty similar experience, though you can still see beyond it through the border. As such, I recommend using fill commands to place cyan concrete or something similar just beyond the world border to remove that issue.

Maybe it just wouldn't work on world that is not an island in the middle of the ocean. Still, it's such a great and interesting feature

good night offyourtopic

isometric screenshots exists in Minecraft mod

It was added in 1.8 and removed after 1.12.2

yeahhh duuuude I LOVED playing around with that feature. you could have lava oceans, make the sea level ridiculously high, have floating islands of any biome, it was so cool. it was the main reason I loved 1.8 so much tbh, I got really sad when it was removed :( it even had presets! the only one I remember is one called "good luck" lmao. I tried it, spawned right next to a lava ocean, and thought oh. I wish so much you could do that w modern minecraft imagine that sort of thing after the aqua update especially!!

@@schrodingerskitten7206 Yeah, I only played around with things like that a little bit before it got removed (mainly lava oceans, which were really "fun" in swamp biomes), but I still miss it, and really wish I could do that stuff in the modern game. Datapacks can supposedly do all this stuff as well, but they probably require learning basic Java or something like that. I might try it at some point.

@@samueldimmock694 actually no java is needed. Just some basic knowledge of json and also minecraft.wiki

Fucking yes I remember this. I would change gravel to only spawn at levels 0-4 because I was a strip miner and I hated it. But I changed the frequency to 100% because otherwise flint was too rare.

I psychically felt you playing it bro It is a really cool version, if I could have Beta features in a Floating world I would be so happy

we need more indev mods

@@dialko2596there's a mod out there called "Better Than Adventure", I think it adds this feature back and has a bunch of other cool stuff. It's designed to be a replacement for the Adventure Update (Beta 1.8) and you would probably like it. Check it out!

Reindev?

I’m pretty sure why we don’t have that screen shot thing in current Minecraft is that it’s going to crash trying to take a picture of 60 million blocks@@dialko2596

Thanks mate🤝👍

Just do it bro. Make a game, and if it ends up being similar to minecraft, who cares. Add the stuff u want and eventually it'll be its own game and comparatively different

I'd recommend adventure craft: awakening

the corporatization of minecraft (and everything really) is killing creativity and fun

I'm currently playing this, the screenshot mode is cool and makes me want to have my world printed out as a big poster

@@JackWilke+L +Ratio +Cope +Seeth +Mald +Didn’t Ask +Get A Life +No they aren’t +Ningen +Learn How To Do Animations

@@this_is_MuffinWhat is ningen

@@carldalord it’s a DBZ word that means “Mortal” Usually used in situations like this

@@carldalordningen means human in japanese

I miss my ps3 limited size worlds :( the unlimited size blows up the amount of data saved and it just feels too _open_ to me, it's a lil unnerving for some reason

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@@matthewjones39 call me a bot one more time and imma go beast mode

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You can add it back in using via version, it lets you play servers ona different version and it adds some old features back in, such as 3d anaglyth

Kinda like how it used to be in the old days of mc yt

@@scemmerjoke in just KZfaq as a whole- people did things for fun, not money...

yeah! its calm and fun, i love these videos. :D

@@Banana_Fusion They still exist, just a hell of a lot harder to find and they are not nearly as popular.

@@RFHWYD yeah, this video exemplifies that

whats BTA?

​@@Grindsawbetter than adventure mod

@@GrindsawBetter Than Adventure

@@SpunkMayo google exists lol. its the better than adventure mod for minecraft, a mod centered around beta mc

​@@SpunkMayoif you don't know what it is you either ask or search what it is, why would he use an acronym and then explain it...? That removes the whole point of the acronym

Paradise is also infinite day, in contrast to Hell which is infinite night. That's why the sun is directly above him when he looks up.

My vision is quite different, when playing on PS3, It always felt really stifling, now on infinite worlds, I can wander around, see new stuff, find places of interest and a nice, unique place to build my home. The surrounding area generally serving for builds, farms, ressource mining, and long range travel for stuff like ocean bases and the likes. A shitty spawn is not very pleasant, and I like finding a hidden gem inside a seed that seems otherwise worthless. Conclusion : I like wandering a bit to see the sights, otherwise I like to roll with the punches and a certain area becomes my domain where I will spend my playthrough

I mean, it’s pretty simple to create a limited world in modern day Minecraft: You just shrink the world border down to the size that you want. And if you want like a survival island type of world, you can just do that through the world settings, or through seeds (there’s a subreddit for example dedicated to sharing seeds of all kind that have their own unique quirks)

As a game dev, there is a difference that I must point out between "being limited in the tools I have makes me more creative with my result" versus "being limited in my world space makes me more creative on how I play a *sandbox* game" For a long time, developers were (and still kind of are, for smaller teams and broader audiences) limited by the processing power of machinery. You had to work around the tools that you had. Unlike for a sandbox game, forcing a player to work around a limited space when you can absolutely give them unlimited space is artificial and unfair. For longevity as well the game has so many updates and content that if you tried to force players to manage resources in such a small space it would instantly lose most of its playerbase and the masochists would be the only ones left.

There is this server called Origin Realms which does both a limited world for your "home" like in dev, but also there are hot air balloons that throw you every time in a different location to explore in the open world, has custom mobs, assets to decore your house and more, cool af

That’s stupid and pretentious as hell.

god i could not agree more with a comment!! though, something that's remedied this a little bit for me (besides playing the older versions themselves) is the Modern Beta mod (bringing several different world generation terrain types from early infdev to beta 1.7.3), Nostalgic Tweaks (allows for many tweaks to be made that bring back many old minecraft features such as infinite fire, the old lighting engine, no hunger, xp, and many other modern features to be removed from play), and the Golden Days resource pack, it does exactly what you think it does, bringing back many of minecraft's old textures and sounds, while also adding new 'beta style' textures to the newer blocks so they don't clash so hard :D i highly suggest trying this combo out if you haven't already!

I really don't get why people love old Minecraft so much because of it being empty. Like, that was one of the main contributing factors as to why I would get bored so easily. Unless you enjoy working in limited environments, there wasn't much additional value or replayability to be had beyond the simple gameplay and selection of building blocks... Like, it's one thing to be nostalgic over it, but saying it's better? Like even as an opinion, why? Unless people think that because out of nostalgia.

​@@umamifanIt's a very different play style. The game in pre-release is infinitely more challenging to play, which makes it so rewarding. Limited amount of blocks make your palette choice an important decision, the mobs are so dangerous that you *need* to sleep at night, building and mining is much slower, requiring more dedication to your projects. There's also so much less to be distracted by in the game. It feels more like a "survival" game to me than modern Minecraft does, which feels more like an adventure game.

@@umamifan The way I see it, it's more of a different perspective that modern minecraft doesn't provide players these days. Think about it like this: can you afford to build aesthetic locations in the End without getting assaulted by an Enderman or the Ender Dragon every so often? For most players, not really. So they don't spend time building there; the only designs worth building are those that get you around places (like bridges). Can you afford to build aesthetic locations in the Nether without getting assaulted by Ghasts and pigmen? For most players, not really. And so most players don't spend their time building there (people by far prefer taking blocks out of the nether to grow things in the overworld). Remove villages, and now you don't have to think about how big a town should be or how it should be designed practically to function. Remove biomes, and now you might be inclined to use white wool blocks to cover the landscape in "snow", or manually build trees to fit the idea of what a tree should be in your mind. Taken to an extreme, what if you removed mobs from minecraft? Now you don't have to think about whether doors are practical or needed in your building. Your idea of a barn can be built to scale for three-block high draft horses, two block-wide pigs, etc. You're not reminded constantly of what the world should be. Removing health and hunger also lets you think about building modern-esque kitchens that have zero function but capture the silhouette and aesthetics expected of a kitchen. That sort of emptiness in minecraft's simpler versions lets you lean on your own interpretation and imagination a lot more than in the current minecraft we have today (where you have constant reminders about what the game expects for scale, color, and variety). And sure, you can play in creative mode or use a modpack, but it's also fun to not have to think about what's over on the horizon at the end of your draw distance. Not to mention the indev versions let you play with procedural generation tools a lot more liberally than in the latest builds. It's just a better sandbox, in a certain kind of way.

​@@vedriscaI'm sorry, but most of what you mentioned can be done in any version of minecraft, even the latest ones. Your hypothetical questions seem to be based on your anecdotal experiences, and not other players. Like, what's preventing me from building a modern kitchen in modern minecraft? I'm sorry, I just don't get your reasoning. Except for the world gen stuff, that I agree with.inecraft world gen used to be so detailed even for casuals, but nowadays, you have to tinker with the json files.

iirc, if you are in third person, because your player model IS being rendered, you DO show up

@@randomcamera746 Yeah I know but it should work in first person

could be a bit cheaty in multiplayer

@@flamingkillermc2806 I see it not working in first person as a plus, basically a toggle for if you want the player or not

too bad that those who developed the game no longer do in the same way😔

Wdym vanilla, like post release? Bc that was removed past I think 1.18

@@whoisanarnb Are you about floating islands? Idk, I played it on like 1.16 on school computer once Never tried when I had TLauncher, and I already deleted that for nearly a year, so my information is a bit outdated Also Old world is only bedrock, flying island only java

*Pucci theme start playing*

It was a debug code that was only meant for development testing

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A combination of Nostalgic Tweaks and Modern Beta would probably be right up your alley!

I kinda recommend ReIndev mod for beta 1.7.3

"Funnily enough as you get older colours literally get less saturated" this is only once you get to 50 years old

Rct?

@@schmecklin377 rollercoaster tycoon

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isometric_projection

No, isometric mimics 2d, while flying up and taking a screenshot is still in 3d. you can tell in the screenshot by the further back blocks being the same size as the closest blocks.

@@yveltalsea Interesting, thanks for sharing

I loved the super secret settings. Still don't really know why they were removed.

tutorial worlds? i play since halloween update when nether was added and i dont remember tutorial world being a thing

​@@arekkrol9758pretty sure it was on the console specific editions only like ps3 edition

​@@k_otey tutorial worlds were also on xbox 360, i remember that they added minigames later like hunger games or time attack on elytra

@@arekkrol9758There was a tutorial world button in Java, but it never got used. Tutorial worlds were for the “legacy console editions”.

I remember you Jack :)

who asked + my animations are better

who are you?@@JackWilke

:O forreal? That's kinda random but interesting

There is also no daylight cycle afaik. The time is always noon!

>because it had notch's hard work soul baked into it, and it was much more simple Up until b1.8 right? :V

Oooh, an isometric map would be a really cool addition. I'd also really live if there was a way to make a small 3D version of the map that you coulf place physically in your world, but i think that might be too different from Minecraft's vibe. Too detailed, maybe.

who asked + my animations are better

Kinda like the Minecraft posters?

@@CodyBloodface to some extent, it could also be super useful for showing steps to build something, similar to a Lego set's instructions

I really need a thesaurus 😔

@@dialko2596 Nah, just say "cool", "dope", "awesome", "insane", or "💯💯🔥ong🙏"

The fact you didn’t even think of having both 🤨

@littlemoth4956 there'd be no need for both since flat is already a type of limited world you can generate

Same here. There's an earlier version where it works 20100202-2330 but it doesn't have many useful blocks and recipes.