The Best Pillows for Side Sleepers (Top 7!)

The Best Pillows for Side Sleepers (Top 7!) - Can These Stop Neck Pain?

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Welcome, side sleepers! If you’re reading this, that means you’re well on your way to finding the pillow that perfectly supports you in your go-to position. Yes, it’s true that there are literally hundreds of side sleeper pillows out there, but I’ve saved you some time and energy by rounding up the 7 side-sleeping accessories that I think are the absolute best.
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0:00 Introduction
0:45 Best Pillow for Neck Pain
2:00 Best Latex Pillow
3:15 Best Pillow for Shoulder Pain
4:20 Best Memory Foam Pillow
5:30 Best Down Pillow
6:25 Best Organic Pillow
7:30 Best Pillow for Combo Sleepers
8:30 How Do I Pick a Pillow for Side Sleepers?
9:05 How High Should a Pillow Be for Side Sleepers?
9:35 What Firmness Is Best for Side Sleepers?
10:00 How Many Pillow Should a Side Sleeper Use?
Once you’ve landed on the loft and firmness that best support you, you’re ready to focus on more specific preferences. For example, do you want a pillow that feels warm or cool? Bouncy or moldable? After all, there’s a wide world of pillows out there, and it’s worth it to take every factor into consideration in order to unlock your best sleep potential!
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⬇️Click the links below to save BIG on these pillows!⬇️ ✅Saatva Pillow - www.sleepopolis.com/go/saatva-pillow/ ✅Layla Kapok Pillow - www.sleepopolis.com/go/layla-pillow/ ✅Birch Pillow - sleepopolis.com/go/birch-living-organic-pillow/ ✅Eli & Elm Side Sleeper - www.sleepopolis.com/go/eli-elm-side-sleeper-pillow/ ✅Purple Harmony Pillow - www.sleepopolis.com/go/purple-harmony-pillow-2/ ✅TEMPUR-Cloud Breeze - sleepopolis.com/go/tempur-pedic-tempur-cloud-breeze-dual-cooling-pillow/ ✅Luxe Down Pillow - sleepopolis.com/go/luxe-pillow/

@lui4126 3 жыл бұрын

Never realized it’s so expensive being a side sleeper🙄

@mendoza0411 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a side sleeper as well.. I have a puffy hybrid mattress and pillow to say the least they're both incredible.

@vickieden5022 2 жыл бұрын

I know right ?? Wth

@InvntdXNEWROMAN 3 жыл бұрын

Currently watching this while side laying on a folded pillow on top of another pillow.

@kideboss7427 3 жыл бұрын

Lmao me!

@hzleyes7087 3 жыл бұрын

😂

@alexTL1412 2 жыл бұрын

Literally same and that is exactly why I’m here lol

@Ferro12211 2 жыл бұрын

Same and my neck has had a tweak in it for a month

@cornyham2892 3 жыл бұрын

Gosh my pillows feel like I woke up and someone broke a bat over my head

@bornagainsaint6923 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂👍

@virtudiaries6094 3 жыл бұрын

Timing is everything. I have been looking at pillows and this video is exactly what I needed. Thank you.

@flynnaz 4 жыл бұрын

I really like how the Purple Harmony Pillow looks, I think it would be great to reduce pressure on my shoulders

@stevenyoung8769 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Video. My wife and I bought two of the Eli elm sidesleeper. Great pillow.

@vacationistheanswer 4 жыл бұрын

The Eli & Elm looks perfect. Will have to give it a try on my next pillow purchase. I like I could adjust if needed.

@REY98sparta 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video! Very informative and helpful, please keep making these videos!

@buneface 4 жыл бұрын

I really thought I would likely go with the Tempur-Pedic because I really tend to like the feel of memory foam, but Sarah really sold me on the Eli and Elm Organic Side Sleeper. I'm loving the ergonomic design and the fact that the fill is adjustable so I can make it as lofty as I like. Thanks so much for these great side sleeper reviews!

@houdini178 3 жыл бұрын

After trying tons of pillows this weekend, the Cariloha Flex was the one. Side sleeper I am, and loved it. Soft and kinda firm at the same time.

@sarat.4404 3 жыл бұрын

FANTASTIC! Finally the information I was looking for. Thank you!

@robertsimpson2721 4 жыл бұрын

I would honestly love to feel and try all of these pillows! BUT, if I had to choose, I would pick out the Eli and Elm, Luxe down and Layla. Great selections, and I love the reviews!

@rosieplease 4 жыл бұрын

The birch pillow is so nice! It looks so fluffy!!!!

@MT-bc6xf 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.... Super helpful. I'm going to buy two of them. Fingers crossed!

@coffeeandcommunity 4 жыл бұрын

I already have the Eli & Elm and it's awesome, but I really like that Saatva pillow with both latex and down alternative, but favorite materials of mine.

@michaelchevillot4557 4 жыл бұрын

The Eli & Elm looks sweet and the shredded insides lets you customize it. I was surprised at the Purple pillow as it looked better than what I would have imagined.

@raythompson7920 4 жыл бұрын

Excellently researched. Thanks for the advice.

@bobbicobalt8436 4 жыл бұрын

I like the Eli & Elm for its organic materials and for it being the best recommendation for side sleepers with neck pain.

@lisahayes4064 4 жыл бұрын

Eli&Elm love the shape specific for neck pain which definitely have, purple harmony another maintained loft a plus, Layla looks like such a snuggly fit, certainly would love to have them all for rotation purposes too😍

@greenbunny13 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing review. Thank you..

@coleenosmond3035 4 жыл бұрын

Loving that Eli & Elm shredded foam pillow. It looks amazing and i have to get one of those. This was a great line up of amazing pillows but being the pillow snob that i am im going to have to try that Eli & Elm and maybe the Layla as well. Thanks for all of the info

@sethkarim5786 4 жыл бұрын

I really like the Tempur Cloud Breeze and the Purple Harmony. I love Cloud Breeze for that memory foam feel that i love so much and the outside layer of cooling gel to keep you cool all night. I also love the Harmony because its made of a solid slab of talalay latex with ventilated holes to keep you cool. Its kind of nice that the whole pillow is wrapped in a thin layer of their hyper elastic polymer material. I would be happy with either of these two great pillows. I just wish they were more affordable

@mellofello 4 жыл бұрын

That birch pillow looks great! I feel like as a combo sleeper I don't want something too big. The purple looks so gimmicky to me but I could be wrong.

@emilyjanisch9766 4 жыл бұрын

saatva looks awesome and flexible for sleeping and relaxing, to get just the right shape and fluff!

@jenmordecai8817 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for this video i am a heavy side sleeper i watch movies on my side so this is a very good video for me

@Brighteyedwoman 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a side sleeper but can move around as well. I like all the options here but my 1st choice would be the Saatva. It sounds amazing! The Eli and Elm also sounds comfortable and the other one I would like to consider would be the Tempur Pedic memory foam pillow because I love that it comes with a cooling gel layer on both sides.

@Somewriterprob 3 жыл бұрын

That Eli and elm pillow was the right one the moment I laid eyes on it. After watching the full video I went and bought one for the Black Friday sale!! Thank you for such a informative video.

@StratusGhost 3 жыл бұрын

So its been a month, how's it holding up? Lol, im in the market for a new pillow as well

@wardad5628 4 жыл бұрын

I tried a Purple Harmony in a store and it was amazing, though selling a kidney to buy one seems extreme.

@cody3665 4 жыл бұрын

Cheap ass

@gaygay8963 4 жыл бұрын

Cody Wertz your poor

@truthof7382 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@alyssalauree 3 жыл бұрын

It made my neck hurt really bad

@thatoneuser..3358 3 жыл бұрын

@@cody3665 lmaoo cheap ass?? Tf I thought the same thing $160+ for a pillow.... yeah no

@Aphex2nify 4 жыл бұрын

I really like the Eli & Elm pillow for the shape that let's a person's shoulder lay on the mattress rather than on the pillow. My shoulder hurts now and then from it laying on the pillow when I'm on my side. The Eli and Elm has a nice soft cover and plenty of loft that makes me think it would be great for me.

@benkReSea 4 жыл бұрын

I’m intrigued by the Eli and Elm pillow. I like how it cradles the head which is what I do with my pillows.

@Lisa-rh3zr 3 жыл бұрын

I had this pillow and it lost it's shape after a few months and I had to throw it away. I wouldn't waste my money on this pillow.

@kpkid4316 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lisa-rh3zr thanks for the honesty.

@mrpurpleman9698 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lisa-rh3zr fully agree got a similar pillow with the foam stuffing's, nice idea but its a gimmick, you can reshape it but who wants to do that nightly? and it still sinks in half way in the night giving a sore neck.

@rm-dc6tx 4 жыл бұрын

The Saatva pillow looks best for me as I constantly turn all night due to back problems and sometimes even place my pillow between my knees to provide better ease of pain.

@peterharper9703 3 жыл бұрын

🥰😘 Luv ya! Thanks for the information; finding the right pillow is a big pain in the neck! I like solid memory foam pillows, BUT they make my ear/head hot a sweaty.

@kaiposasan451 4 жыл бұрын

Could you please do a review of contour pillows for side sleepers. Thank you. Love your reviews.

@SusieW-ku4ub 4 жыл бұрын

I looooove my SleepGram pillow for side sleeping. And I have Fibromyalgia and neck pain. The SleepGram pillow eliminates the neck pain!

@robinweidner2402 4 жыл бұрын

Eli & Elm and Layla I love the shredded material and the ergonomic shape for neck pain. and I love the loft of the Layla I hope you do a giveaway on these two pillows someday. That would be great!!!

@stephaniecrothers8482 2 ай бұрын

Eli and Elm, Satva and the Birch all look good. This past weekend, I bought an Obasan Wool Pillow for both myself and my husband. Hoping it works like the Eli and Elm. I'm planning on buying two more pillows, so these are now on my list.

@carolehrhart8989 4 жыл бұрын

I think my fav is the purple for side sleeper. More bouncy.

@arose821 4 жыл бұрын

I like the shape and adjustable filling on the Eli & Elm side sleeper pillow. Seems like a great choice for combo sleepers.

@barbarapacific4413 4 жыл бұрын

I would go with the Bear pillow for its cooling features!

@Swnsasy 4 жыл бұрын

I like the layla and the Eli and Elm too!

@jaguarlady1 4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow first the best mattresses for side sleepers and now the best PILLOWS for a side sleeper? I feel so spoiled ...thank you for these, its a tough choice between the Purple Harmony Pillow for every night use or the Layla Kapok Pillow for when my shoulder pain is acting up but they are all great pillows. Thank you for another great in depth review!

@amandaclark5142 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a side sleeper and I have a tempur pedic ☁️ mattress, so I end up sinking into my mattress. I bought the tempur pedic cooling pillow because I sleep hot. Unfortunately for me it's too lofty so my head ends up being very high from my mattress. I appreciate that you've tested all these different brands! I am overwhelmed though, help? Lol thanks in advance for your help! - A

@sisilysmith6980 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to try the Eli & Elm, because you can adjust it and I like the shape. I'd like to see if it helps with the neck pain I get sometimes. The Layla also seems really nice

@stanleyzhou 4 жыл бұрын

Ahh, I NEED that cloud breeze.

@chagnon925 3 жыл бұрын

What should have if I have a back and neck pain when i sleep on the side tanks you for your response

@angie00718 4 жыл бұрын

I think I like the luxe for side and back sleeping, i.v never had a tougher pillow so I don't no what it'd feel like

@dakotaarrowyt6718 3 жыл бұрын

Ah great, now I'm getting pillow and matress adds. Y'know what, that's better than what I was getting before.

@bennyfromda-bronx6343 2 жыл бұрын

Great review!!

@Sleepopolis 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@coffee-girl29 Жыл бұрын

You should make a pillow review for the Cushion lab pillow

@RalphMayhewPhotography 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Sarah. Thanks for your video. I really appreciate it. I need your advice. I’m a side sleeper but usually sleep with my arm under the pillow. The wrong pillow puts my arm to sleep which wakes me up. What options would be best for me?

@susand5434 4 жыл бұрын

I've not thought about investing in a good pillow. I may try the Layla or the Eli and Elm.

@susand5434 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Sleepopolis! I love that I found your channel!

@DiscusScoop 3 жыл бұрын

I would love a personal recommendation! Tried to Eli & Elm side sleeper and liked it but didn’t love it. Currently trying the purple harmony pillow, and again I like the pillow but not sure right now if it’s the one for me. I did however originally order the 6.5” and may order the 7.5” to see if that makes a difference. What would you recommend?

@WilliamJohnson-vj5gz 4 жыл бұрын

How would you compare the Avacado pillow to the Birch pillow for side sleepers? I have some neck and back pain and always sleep on my side. Thanks!!

@StevieT2411 3 жыл бұрын

So whats the best one for neck pain and side sleeping overall?

@ingridkincaid1187 3 жыл бұрын

Have you also tried the snowe down alternative?

@leatherface_603 3 жыл бұрын

Quick question, I see you list other pillows that would be good to sleep with an arm under, but is the Eli & Elm comfortable to sleep with an arm under as well?

@jezza6575 3 жыл бұрын

Which would you recommend for me...I’m a 6’6” 205# male average build. I’m split between the Layla Kapok or the Coop Home Goods Original with maybe some extra fill. Currently sleeping on a Purple Harmony high loft, it’s decent but not great. Thanks!

@roopachalasani5982 4 жыл бұрын

Hi my kid has asthma so my doctor suggested to make him sleep on slanted pillow since the angle on the pillow allows his breathing but he is a side sleeper can u suggest any pillows of that kind??

@Ryalkos 3 жыл бұрын

So I got a question, I really like the Eli and elm pillow but I’m allergic to latex. I get a rash on the area of contact. Is the case going to protect me from the latex or am I going to have to replace the filling?

@anapartida602 4 жыл бұрын

I have curly hair and rely on my satin pillow case to keep my hair frizz free. I’m also a side sleeper with crazy neck and shoulder pain due to currently sleeping on the wrong pillow. I sweat, I turn on my back and I get about 6-7 hours of sleep a night. If I consider a pillow with cooling capabilities will my satin pillow case hinder that capability? Thanks!!

@jessecostello1406 3 жыл бұрын

How does the eli & Elm stand up to the easy breather natural pillow?

@bobsimmons1470 3 жыл бұрын

I once slept on a pillow containing GMO cotton and my life was forever changed

@stephaniecrothers8482 2 ай бұрын

GMO or Non GMO? Was the forever change good or bad?

@bobsimmons1470 2 ай бұрын

@@stephaniecrothers8482 I now have the GMO shakes and rattles

@RR-43019 Ай бұрын

I could really use your help. I sleep on my side then to stomach and switch sides. I have my arm raised under my pillow with arm bent. Only way I can sleep but doing this I do get neck stiffness around my spine in neck. What pillow will help

@jessicavaldivia8339 4 жыл бұрын

I’m a little upset because I’m looking for a nice side sleeper pillow for side sleepers and was interested in the Eli and elm but they don’t come in king and same with the harmony pillow. Those were my top 2 picks.

@stemirreviews 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jenniferphillips3195 4 жыл бұрын

The Eli and Elm looks interesting and if it helps with neck pain then I would love it!

@ebsss100 2 жыл бұрын

Did you get it!?

@motaza5164 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sara What would I go for if I tuck my arm under the pillow? I would say I am between side and stomach sleeper somthing in between(I sleep on my side but tend to lean on to my stomach a bit) There are pillows marketed as arm pillows with an arm hole or a tunnel. Any thoughts on my condition. The neck and shoulder pain is horrible! I'v tried tempur pillows and down pillows

@paulbentley3496 3 жыл бұрын

For side sleepers which do I need medium or firm

@villegirl71 3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the Sutera pillow? I flip flop from side to back, but mainly am a side sleeper with excruciating neck/shoulder pain with headache when I get up in the morning.

@tamarastarproductions8627 3 жыл бұрын

Can you get these pillows in New Zealand?

@hollydolly088 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve tried so many. Always stiff neck Ugh. I want to try temper but no returns kills me.

@chrisl3550 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had a Layla for about two years. I’m a tall, broad shouldered guy with chronic neck pain who only sleeps on my side. For the last several months the pillow doesn’t have enough loft. I’ve tried fluffing it every night and putting it in the dryer with a tennis ball (recommended by Layla). Doesn’t hold through the night. Layla won’t send me refill to increase the loft. I’m open to suggestions and new pillow options.

@AZLatinaVaquerita 3 жыл бұрын

Just ordered the Eli Side Sleepers, they have a 45 day trial so yeah, spendy, but worth a try. My neck is killing me.

@lisahayes4064 4 жыл бұрын

What happens to the ones that are returned after their trial periods?

@ejonesjones23 3 жыл бұрын

I am a side sleeper and like a soft pillow what should I get I have a my pillow now but my neck has been bothering me

@kalebanoe6176 3 жыл бұрын

I'm looking for an adjustable cooling pillow for side sleepers. is the (Dream Rite Shredded Hypoallergenic Memory Foam Pillow WonderSleep Series Luxury Adjustable Loft Home Pillow Hotel Collection Grade Washable Removable Cooling Bamboo Derived Rayon Cover- Queen 1 Pack) a good choice for me?

@donaldrositano869 3 жыл бұрын

I need a good recommendation. I've been using a Layla for the past 2 years and have honestly hated it. I usually sleep in the bottom corners of my pillow and Layla struggled to hold it's shape. The filling always pushed backward leaving me with no support. So for a recommendation, I want something that will hold its shape and loft, but without feeling like I'm being sucked into the pillow (like Layla). I keep seeing the Pillow Cube and that seems enticing. I also don't want to spend more than $100. Thoughts?

@arsathtajuddin1070 2 жыл бұрын

i like to fold,mold to make it firm during sleep,sometimes less firm.any suggestion?

@WorldTravelingCouple 4 жыл бұрын

Great review, thanks. Which pillow has the least amount of off-gassing? Can't tolerate breathing in chemicals all night long from foams. Thx.

@cheise79 3 жыл бұрын

Help! Where can I buy the Layla Kapok pillow in Canada? Looks like the one for me but $80+ shipping from the US is holding me back.

@Old_School69 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to order the avocado green pillow but it says it ships in 5 to 6 weeks. I am not patient enough to wait that long on a pillow. What other pillows are soft like that and adjustable that do not require ridiculously long wait times like avocado?

@zmunchkin 3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the Sutera pillow? If so, what are your thoughts?

@davidlrogers 4 жыл бұрын

Bear Pillow no longer in your top side sleepers - is the Tempur-Pedic that much better?

@lkmidge 5 ай бұрын

How does the Zoey Sleep fall in the lineup? It's pretty much the same as the Eli and Elm but comes in a king size- which Eli and Elm does not.

@Lisa-rh3zr 4 жыл бұрын

I just ordered the Bear Pillow for people that get warm after looking at you too cooling pillows for 2020 and I just ordered the Eli and Elm side pillow as well. Guess I will find out if I like either one of them.

@pinkshamrock5590 4 жыл бұрын

Did you get them? What did you think?

@frizsld6793 3 жыл бұрын

sooooo?

@darebear2001 4 жыл бұрын

I have a question. I'm on the hunt for a pillow that I'm not sure actually exists. If it does, please help. I'm a side sleeper. I'm trying to learn how to sleep on my back. I've recently bought a very nice adjustable bed and a medium firm memory foam mattress. I'm finding it difficult to find a pillow that will work for me. I have a CPAP machine as well. Additionally, I'm finding my ears get sore from sleeping on them (hence why I'm trying to learn to sleep on my back but breaking 50 years of sleep habit is difficult). So I need something that won't interfere with my CPAP mask, support my head, and have a hole for my ears so they don't hurt as much anymore. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm sure I'm not the only person in this situation. Thank you!

@jordanross2193 3 жыл бұрын

How long will the layla pillow last. From what I remember reading is that the pillow would only last for six months. And how long will the tempurpedic pillow and bedding last without softing. I'm wondering out of all these pillows which memory foam pillow would last longer than a year. Out of the Eli pillow, birch, and luxe down which pillow would relieve pressure better for neck and back pain. Oh and the nectar pillow didn't make this list I guess. But I'm also wondering how long the nectar pillow would last for. Are nectar pillows worth buying.

@craigdorler3616 4 жыл бұрын

I'm really interested in Eli & Elm and Layla. Thanks!

@oliviapopireni3456 3 жыл бұрын

Kapuk/Kapok is considered as inferior when it comes to pillow fill in my country. I remember sleep in kapok filled when I was kid, it was uncomfortable and I think that's why I got allergy. It is more durable than cotton, but as pillow fill it so heavy and the fill can actually gotten out from the cover and not really hygiene (cause you can't wash it, you can but it will dilapidated)

@IsabellaJanex0 3 жыл бұрын

Love the videos! I am a combo side/ back sleeper with also shoulder pain and lots of neck pains lol. Would you still recommend the Eli&Elm? Have you ever heard of sutera? Really have tried so many pillows 🤣 thanks for your videos!

@Sleepopolis 3 жыл бұрын

Try the Eli & Elm Side Sleeper!

@cwill2127 4 жыл бұрын

Have you heard of or tried any pillows with cutouts for the side of your face? Two pillows are the Juverest and sleep and glow pillow, and I think both are $160. Seem very interesting

@Darko-kn6il 3 жыл бұрын

does side sleeper pillows can help from people suffering from sleep apnea?

@mosesa.3386 2 жыл бұрын

Any pillows made in the US?

@JoyceMcDaniel 4 жыл бұрын

Eli and Elm because it is for side sleepers, is adjustable and the ergonomic design. Loved this video

@jackjones9467 4 жыл бұрын

That Layla pillow looks like it might be the solution for me. Big guy that sleeps on side only, here.

@tasha8974 3 жыл бұрын

It's a great pillow great for every night never wake up with head aches....

@ashleyulrich6754 3 жыл бұрын

Would you be willing to do a similar video with latex free options?

@trint26 3 жыл бұрын

Im torn between Layla Kopak and Eli elm. Help!

@pocopico7409 4 жыл бұрын

Hmmm.....so the Coop isn't included in this list of best for side sleepers? That's odd, since Consumer Reports recently rated them so highly and you have rated them highly in past videos. What is it about the Coop now that you don't like for side sleeping? Thanks!