The Best RX 7900 XTX you can get - PowerColor Liquid Devil

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Outro:
Dylan Sitts feat. HDBeenDope - For The Record (Dylan Sitts Remix)
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- PowerColor RX 7900 XTX Liquid Devil
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:45 Unboxing
1:14 PowerColor Radeon RX 7900 XTX Liquid Devil
2:36 Test system with WireView GPU
3:05 The card in operation
3:48 Temperatures, benchmarks & MSI Afterburner
5:06 Makita (Intermission)
5:17 "Unleashed" BIOS
5:33 Power consumption OC-BIOS
5:51 Benchmark OC-BIOS
6:07 Power Consumption "Unleashed"-BIOS
6:26 Benchmark "Unleashed"-BIOS
6:47 Coil whine test
7:19 Disassembling the cooler
8:10 Paste & Pads
8:33 Custom PCB
9:35 Temperatures in comparison
10:25 Power Consumption Comparison
11:26 Clock speeds in comparison
11:58 3DMark Time Spy Extreme
12:23 Manual Overclocking
13:23 Summary/Conclusion
15:05 Outro

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@infernus6278
@infernus6278 Жыл бұрын
PowerColor is my absolute favorite brand. Top notch build quality, good prices, good warranty.
@AdamsWorlds
@AdamsWorlds Жыл бұрын
I can see watercooled cards being the future. With the size of coolers needed now surly its the cheaper option to slap a waterblock on them. Would like to see "pre built" water cooling also. So you buy a unit with rad, block, res, and they come with 4 pipes 2 for the cpu and 2 for the gpu. Just plug and play quick connect/disconnect. I know this already exists but i can see it becoming a standard with every PC.
@pascaldifolco4611
@pascaldifolco4611 Жыл бұрын
It's also the present for me, as my reservoir (behind front rad) already prevents me to put a GPU more than 280mm long (and I have a rather big Phanteks P600S case...) 😂
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
I am not looking at spending extra 50% to get water cooled card
@SlavaBagmut
@SlavaBagmut Жыл бұрын
It exists for CPU only (AIO) we need the same solution for GPU. Right now it requires custom water cooling.
@lamikal2515
@lamikal2515 Жыл бұрын
@@GewelReal Depends on what base price your 50% came from. You can buy the cheapest "reference card" you can find, and slap a WB on it.
@TheInsaneupsdriver
@TheInsaneupsdriver Жыл бұрын
@@SlavaBagmut they exist already for top end cards, but i can totally see a standardization of quick connect watercooling in the near future. thankfully AMD won't be so quick to even need it.
@OfficialJamesNewberry
@OfficialJamesNewberry Жыл бұрын
Impressive its always nice to see what the top end can do by one of the best. Much Appreciated.👌👌😁😁
@greghilliard1767
@greghilliard1767 Жыл бұрын
I'm so looking forward to using this card. Just have to finish my build!!
@50H3i1
@50H3i1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video Really like to see more memory tuning and benchmarks with this card
@Alexandra-Rex
@Alexandra-Rex Жыл бұрын
I really like PowerColor's Devil logo. It's so simple and clean.
@thorgen_ironside5279
@thorgen_ironside5279 Жыл бұрын
As always Der8auer delivering quality review
@Juurus
@Juurus Жыл бұрын
That's a crazy performance improvement, I'd like to see further tuning.
@Insertnamehere3000
@Insertnamehere3000 Жыл бұрын
They always do that
@wantedyou2346
@wantedyou2346 Жыл бұрын
Just use the card as it as and save the money for a future upgrade. This so called tuning to get a few fps here and there is a waste of time and is only good for those with no jobs or those on KZfaq making videos.
@jamesbrendan5170
@jamesbrendan5170 Жыл бұрын
@@wantedyou2346 and you should shut up. Just... let people do what they want! Who cares if it's a waste of time, only people that don't have time would say that
@gozutheDJ
@gozutheDJ Жыл бұрын
@@wantedyou2346 look at me I'm going to tell people what they should and shouldnt find worthwhile to them
@Dragoon710
@Dragoon710 Жыл бұрын
@@wantedyou2346 that''s some fucking stupid advice. Why would you not squeeze free performance out of your card?
@Drock7749
@Drock7749 Жыл бұрын
It looks awesome! For me though, with that difference in price and the fact it is a strictly water cooled card, there should be a higher power limit than it has or at least the ability to increase it higher than it does without having to mod the bios. Personally the "unleashed" bios should have a bigger difference than it does. Other than that it looks to be a great card!
@mateusramos1992
@mateusramos1992 6 ай бұрын
What's most impressive to me is that you have a super clean black table and a white cat, I have cat fur everywhere on my desktop, even cleaning everyday
@reloadingdontshoot1
@reloadingdontshoot1 Жыл бұрын
Was considering this card when i had my loop. Love power colour and their Red Devil line
@Nite-Lite-Gamers
@Nite-Lite-Gamers Жыл бұрын
I went all out this time and bought a PowerColor 7900XTX LE and to be fair Im over the moon with it and its the quitest card I have ever had. I go into the Amd software and set it to balanced mode and the hot spot never goes over 89c with the fans at around 1700rpm. Solid card, I just wish it was cheaper, although it droped £100 since I bought it but I have no regrets.
@TheTick20001
@TheTick20001 Жыл бұрын
Any coil whine?
@Nite-Lite-Gamers
@Nite-Lite-Gamers Жыл бұрын
@@TheTick20001 Not a note of Choil Whine and to be honest, I was expecting it but I got lucky.
@TheTick20001
@TheTick20001 Жыл бұрын
@@Nite-Lite-Gamers Good to hear (or not as the case may be!)
@orrygel
@orrygel Жыл бұрын
Your very fortunate to have such good supervisors on scene 🐈😻
@Born_Stellar
@Born_Stellar Жыл бұрын
I have a 6900x liquid devil, love it. want to get one of those triple 8-pin 180s with the readout, I like the clean look.
@rENEGADE666JEDI
@rENEGADE666JEDI Жыл бұрын
6900 xt x had one problem, locked memory. After overclocking, it did not have such gains as the 7900xtx. That's probably why the 6950xt appeared ;)
@0xNobody
@0xNobody Жыл бұрын
@@rENEGADE666JEDI I have an LC bios on mine, lets me clock memory to 2400.
@aryanak1989
@aryanak1989 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I would've liked a performance comparison between that and a Sapphire nitro plus AIB version of 7900xtx in that chart as well. Thanx
@dawn-moon
@dawn-moon Жыл бұрын
I own the "normal" 7900 XTX Red Devil, and at stock bios in COD DMZ, I'm getting peak hot spot of 94 degrees Celcius, in a Lian Li Lancool3 with 6 140mm Corsair Performance Elite fans and 3 120mm fans, same type, installed below the Red Devil. You DO need a lot of case cooling for these power draws. I ended up undervolting 1% in Redeon software, that makes a hot spot difference of about 5 degrees. Coil wine is only audible on some game menus that are not frame capped and run at like 1000 fps. In properly FPS limited menus, you can't notice the coil wine... I'm happy I kept it AMD, from my former 6950XTX Red Devil to this one was just unplug and plug the same the 3 PCIE power cables, done :) ( weird thing was that W10 and the latest 6950 driver, did not like my 7900XTX rightaway, it had to be uninstalled, reboot, install , 2 or 3 reboots, then it was done )
@Brabant076
@Brabant076 Жыл бұрын
Undervolt it and get better performance with less heat.
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын
'normal' is the hassle free edition honestly, wc has low temp treshold (you have to keep things
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын
gpu only, cpu same temp
@cyberwomble7524
@cyberwomble7524 Жыл бұрын
Sheikh and Makita seemed impressed with it too; high praise indeed.
@MrPhyrce
@MrPhyrce 7 ай бұрын
I received my 7900XTX Liquid Devil about 6 Months ago. I have ZERO coil whine, only time you hear the card is 1000+ FPS on blank screens while loading and even then its the quietest card I have ever had. I very much won the lottery with this card.
@bigai-ul4ic
@bigai-ul4ic 2 ай бұрын
Hey, I was wondering if getting a liquid cooled card is safe long term now that it's been a 10 months since you got it.
@MrPhyrce
@MrPhyrce 2 ай бұрын
@@bigai-ul4icthat entirely depends on what you mean by safe? I haven't had any issues with the card at all. It depends on what you yourself are comfortable with. I am fine ripping my PC apart to do whatever needs to be done. Water cooling is very much an enthusiast thing to do. I work on PCs for a living and have 0 issues diagnosing and replacing parts or draining and filling my loop. If you aren't comfortable building a pc and doing your own troubleshooting stick to air cooled or hybrid cards. The Red Devil performs nearly identically to the liquid devil for example, without the need for maintenance.
@christianhinkel9251
@christianhinkel9251 Жыл бұрын
Now I want to build a system around this!
@ramblinjay3816
@ramblinjay3816 7 ай бұрын
I love my 5700 xt liquid devil. This is gonna be my next upgrade hopefully soon
@the_shameless
@the_shameless Жыл бұрын
Thanks for awesome review sir! Can't wait to buy this card at half price in a year or two lol
@NateWheeler1
@NateWheeler1 Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for someone to do this test and teardown. Thank goodness it was you. I have the air-cooled Red Devil 7900 XTX and similar performance and clocks. Are there any other benefits of this version other than thermals? I guess maybe smaller profile?
@HappyHubris
@HappyHubris Жыл бұрын
I have the air cooled Powercolor Red Devil and...you get similar improvement over a stock 7900XTX, albeit with higher temps/fans. Except mine was +$50 over reference price, and this is +$XXX over the reference cooler. And people have reported nice undervolts/overclocks on the reference cooler, too. Generally the GPUs that cost +$200 or more over reference just don't give you enough raw performance to justify that price, though some people might prefer to water cool or whatever.
@redhel
@redhel Жыл бұрын
You have to compare it price wise vs buying an air cooled card + a waterblock really. Most waterblocks for the XTX are around that $200 mark so what are you gonna do
@ironhelix45
@ironhelix45 Жыл бұрын
The fact it comes with an ek water block almost makes this a no brainer for watercooled builds. the red devil is 1100+the ek red devil block is another 277. That makes that combo 1377. The liquid devil is 1400. $23 to keep your warranty and not have to instal the block yourself seems like a no brainer. (pricing was in the US, ymmv). If you dont have to pay for shipping on the liquid devil you instantly save money because shipping from ek to the us is around 20-40 bucks.
@aonirsplayground6224
@aonirsplayground6224 Жыл бұрын
I guess at the top of the line performance/€ goes out the window and you want performance for *almost* any money. But heck even with that mindset the premium on this one is too much to justify, so much so it starts falling in line with products that are like made with gold for no other reason than "yes why not".
@4fiHysteria
@4fiHysteria Жыл бұрын
​@@ironhelix45 EK blocks make no sense though, when you can get a cheaper bykski, higher quality similar price heatkiller, or spend more for better performance from something like Optimus. And in the US, disassembling your card cannot void the warranty anyways, just put the old cooler back on if you have to RMA it and you're fine. It's what I did when I rma'd my 3090 out of my loop.
@ironhelix45
@ironhelix45 Жыл бұрын
@4fiHysteria byskie needs to have a block available to be able to use them. Right now they don't even have a 7000 category on their own website. They have one for preorder at 194. Ekwb at least has 7900 blocks available to buy and ship out now. Byskie's one block that I saw was for the sapphire nitro +. That card starts at 1200. Add the 200 for the byskie block and you are at 1400, same price as the liquid devil without the hassle of needing to install the block yourself. Also, I didn't mention that it came with the loop leak test kit. 30 bucks right there. Now I know not everyone will use that, but it is added for free. Don't get me wrong, I get that most of the time buying a pre-blocked card costs more than doing it yourself. In this case, purchasing in the US, the liquid devil makes a lot of sense because the cost of the card and block is comparable to buying the base card and base block itself. Most budget blocks that are out for the 7900xtx are for reference only. If you want an aib block your options are limited. I didn't see a heat killer block in my search, same with byskie until recently with their preorder of the sapphire nitro + block. Ekwb is a reliable brand that you can generally always trust the quality of their product. It isn't unreasonable to consider them as a gold standard of the industry. They are the only ones that I have seen with more than one aib block. Availible now, they have the Asus tuf and reference cards with the red devil cards launching at the end of March early, April. They are also the only brand that I've seen that actually has a tab for the 7000 series gpu. Not trying to shill for ekwb but when it's been 3 months since the launch of the card, and you plan on making a waterblock for the card maybe you should have a tab on your website to advertise that you are in fact going to sell blocks for that line. Edit: never heard of Optimus and just looked at their stuff, they don't even make amd card blocks, so why bring them up?
@-zerocool-
@-zerocool- Жыл бұрын
Awesome card, love the GPU power display too, have you thought of doing one for CPU power?
@arch1107
@arch1107 Жыл бұрын
i didnt knew you could put the word best and the word power color together in a phrase like this
@hquest
@hquest Жыл бұрын
It took me a second to understand the “MBA” terminology. Back in the day, we used “BBA” when cards were built by ATi, which some carried over after the company was acquired by another “A” company.
@MicD1
@MicD1 Жыл бұрын
Just got this card. It’s an absolute beast
@timwal1682
@timwal1682 11 күн бұрын
Love the video What quick disconnects are you using?? Cheers
@gsuberland
@gsuberland Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could improve the coil whine using the same trick that CRT manufacturers used in the 80s and 90s: potting them in wax, or adding glue to the sides. Back then the reason for the whine was the horizontal beam deflection transformer being driven with a sawtooth wave at 15.6kHz. Would be interesting to see you add some hot glue to the sides of the inductors on a card with loud coil whine and see if it reduces it significantly. You could also try something more permanent like epoxy or cyanoacylate, although you'll probably want to try those on a cheaper card than this one!
@sammiller6631
@sammiller6631 Жыл бұрын
You could improve the coil whine using a better power supply or a neighborhood with cleaner power at the wall socket.
@TheHighborn
@TheHighborn Жыл бұрын
@@sammiller6631 i have a 1300w platinum PSU, and have a brutal coil whine. It's a seasonic model, and the coil whine is terribad. Electricy is clean where i live. it's the card. (I have a liquid devil)
@cadenmiller
@cadenmiller Жыл бұрын
Wow what timing! I legit just bought myself this
@JohnMuz1
@JohnMuz1 Жыл бұрын
Target audience / perfect, you are the ultimate proof.
@oxfordsparky
@oxfordsparky Жыл бұрын
Out of interest why choose this card? It costs the same as a 4090, is noticeably slower, uses the same power and has less features. Genuinely interested.
@Tirth-Patel
@Tirth-Patel Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it. This is a gaming moment 😎
@cadenmiller
@cadenmiller Жыл бұрын
@@oxfordsparky I’ve only gone with AMD and I just prefer them and I need the DP 2.1. I also wanted a pre installed gpu water block for convenience and I’m coming from a rx Vega 64 so this card is already 4x more fps im not complaining.
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
You need dp2.1 for what exactly?
@TreborSelt
@TreborSelt Жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but the simple touch of having the LED shine through the acrylic plate, via the eyes, made me giddy. 😂
@Arokhantos
@Arokhantos Жыл бұрын
I am glad JayzTwoCents showed temps and delta on he's card confirming my temps are about normal, @derbauer do not be afraid to show exact temps including room temp water temp etc its still very useful, and i am well aware at 30c room temp temps go up least 9 to 10c on atleast the hotspot
@fracturedlife1393
@fracturedlife1393 Жыл бұрын
That's a nice looking block
@Horus9339
@Horus9339 9 ай бұрын
I was on the fence on buying a second hand nVidia or a brand new RX5700XT, a few years back now. I purchased the Powercolor Red Devil and have to say I was impressed even back then. It is still running perfectly in my Misses PC, around 100FPS with Rust at max settings. Powercolor do make nice cards.
@bluephreakr
@bluephreakr Жыл бұрын
Hey Roman, had you considered for your WireView thing having the display press-fit into connectors similar to how the Raspberry Pi CU does attachment to other boards? It would permit use of the same display unit across multiple power boards so that less material could be required overall. If I am wrong about this, I am sure your audience will let me know.
@nicholasgrogan856
@nicholasgrogan856 11 ай бұрын
This card looks beautiful
@Serachja
@Serachja Жыл бұрын
I'm having similar results with an Asus Reference card and a Alphacool block. So far I'm quite happy with the card on water
@AsthmaQueen
@AsthmaQueen Жыл бұрын
I grabbed a taichi 7900xtx, and planning on blocking it soon but its encouraging to see that this is pretty close to same performance, crazy tho that 2800mhz out of the box on memory
@ruokeren1919
@ruokeren1919 Жыл бұрын
Me too. Just waiting for it to arrive but we’re very limited to water block manufacturers. I only know one but it wasn’t for the Taichi. May have to wait a couple of months.
@bismuth7730
@bismuth7730 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait for a video on this card with a shunt mod C:
@rikogarza1729
@rikogarza1729 Жыл бұрын
Mine arrives tomorrow, I was one of the first to leak this when it went on sale
@vorvort1
@vorvort1 7 ай бұрын
temperatures under serious load? Derauer: no, I won’t show you!
@nick76dune
@nick76dune Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hairychesticles1
@hairychesticles1 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see how much extra performance you get in real world gaming. It looks like the gains from watercooled are much more then last gen
@overman330
@overman330 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Guess I’m going with the nitro + (vs the pulse or reference) wasn’t sure if the extra money would equal any performance improvements. This shows it’s plausible and that’s all the encouragement I need 😂
@HappyHubris
@HappyHubris Жыл бұрын
Think about the extra performance per $. The AIB cards generally all undervolt/overclock well as is, so the gap between say a $1,050 card and a $1,200 card is likely very little (silicon lottery applying, of course). The "guaranteed" overclocks on all these AIBs are all much smaller than a simple undervolt on a reference card.
@cavedweller333
@cavedweller333 Жыл бұрын
@@HappyHubris yeah, not going go get that much performance improvement over another aib card, but there's something to say for aesthetics
@jeremybarber2837
@jeremybarber2837 Жыл бұрын
Quite a sweet looking card, especially since it is a true single slot even with the tall pice -> fittings distance.
@Rmx2011
@Rmx2011 Жыл бұрын
Liquid devil cards have always been cool. Badumtss.
@BrazenBob
@BrazenBob Жыл бұрын
Thinking this will be my first water cooling card 😎
@MadViking82
@MadViking82 Жыл бұрын
I came from Red Devil 6900XT on which I put an Alphacool block. The upgrade path competition was between Liquid Devil 7900XTX and iChill Frostbite RTX4090. Went for the latter due to 2x the RT performance, better upscaling and Frame Generation. The price difference in Asia was only 250€ so it made sense. Frostbite has a 450W PL, however it can still be OC'd around 7% by upping the voltage to 1.1mv, and the clocks stay at 3.065ghz consistently at +130mhz core, memory did a solid +800mhz, passing the Port Royal stress test of 30 loops. Temps stay under 63C at worst case scenario, hotspot 75C, most of the time 45-55C core and 55-65C hotspot. No coil whine after the first two weeks of screaming like a pig. Just justifying my choice aloud on the internet! :D
@3800S1
@3800S1 Жыл бұрын
These cards are like the hyper-car posters you'd have as a kid. Maybe when I grow up to 75 I might be able to afford one.
@arjoh2266
@arjoh2266 Жыл бұрын
Amazing..performance improvement..👍
@h.m.8589
@h.m.8589 Жыл бұрын
1060mV +15%PL GPU-2850 Mem-2800 was the end stable result with a reference with 2pci-e on water. Mine pulls on average 325w during games. I think the 7900xtx just works so well with water cooling.
@temporaltomato3021
@temporaltomato3021 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to quickly say: I would love a product like the triple 8-pin power monitor you've been using in some of these videos. I've got a watt meter for the wall, but when doing things like flashing graphics card BIOS or shunt modding, having a clean power reading from just the component you care about would be awesome. Not to mention the 180-degree angle on the device for the cables; with some kind of cover, it might even make my build look better 😅
@69baker69able
@69baker69able Жыл бұрын
Yep, me too!.
@sategllib2191
@sategllib2191 Жыл бұрын
I can't find one, did he make it?
@gsuberland
@gsuberland Жыл бұрын
@@sategllib2191 He says in the video that it's still a prototype.
@kentcurrie7326
@kentcurrie7326 Жыл бұрын
Another amazing video. And, as an American, I always double-clutch when I see a comma used as a decimal. 😂 Some day, I might build a custom watercooled PC.
@zkilla4611
@zkilla4611 Жыл бұрын
I would say the XFX Merc 7900XTX is the best Air cooled card I have owned. Temps are always below 61c
@hoseinqadam
@hoseinqadam Жыл бұрын
FOR 1440P maybe, but when I go 4k it gets hot. 78 on the core and 92 on the hotspot.
@zkilla4611
@zkilla4611 Жыл бұрын
@@hoseinqadam I will test. But my 3080Ti always ran at 78-80c at 1440p.
@Squashed8Ball
@Squashed8Ball Жыл бұрын
@@hoseinqadam 78C is still a very good temp for a GPU under heavy load.
@slim420MM
@slim420MM Жыл бұрын
DXR on tends to increase the temps by 30 degrees.
@sategllib2191
@sategllib2191 Жыл бұрын
That's the card I've been looking at
@MrGaZZaDaG
@MrGaZZaDaG Жыл бұрын
Great review as always 😊 any chance you could download and share the bios for us to try on other non reference cards please
@aquilarossa5191
@aquilarossa5191 Жыл бұрын
I wanted the standard Red Devil RX 7900 XTX. They are over $2000 NZD though (about 1200 euro). $2K knowing it will be superseded so quickly made me hesitate. I went cheap and got a Red Devil 6750XT new for a little more than half what they were on launch. It'll do for now. I also went cheap and recently upgraded my 3700x to a 5900X that was discounted, instead of going 7000 series. I'll wait for the next Zen gen to see if it is any good. I only play a little ESO at 4k, so do not need a supercomputer (it's plenty for my digital audio workstation stuff too). I sold the 3700X to my nephew for an extra large pizza delivered. I have to pull it apart, though. I put my M2 NVMe drive in the easy to get to slot. Using that slot makes my GPU run PCI-E 8x3, instead of 16x. I doubt it hurts, but it still bothers me. Now I have saved a bunch of money I can catch up on all the electric guitar stuff I need to buy, mod, and maintain etc, e.g., stainless frets on my Strat, or a new USB audio interface etc. There's always something huh?
@far0sino
@far0sino Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Not that it matters but your clock speed comparison graph has wrong Y axis label.
@BobSmith-gh5wj
@BobSmith-gh5wj Жыл бұрын
Great video - whats the difference between the Powercolor red devil air cooled bios and the water cooled bios?
@JBrinx18
@JBrinx18 Жыл бұрын
I definitely would like that wire view for my 3 8-pin GPU. So the wattage over the PCIe slot is minimal typically, yes?
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler Жыл бұрын
Thumbnail 10/10
@nimotech8008
@nimotech8008 Жыл бұрын
This is a card I want, and the next GPU will be powercolor liquid devil for sure!
@eliaskauppi7888
@eliaskauppi7888 Жыл бұрын
Just bought this card for my first custom liquid cooled PC. I agree that the coil whine on this card is pretty terrible, at least with my card it sounds louder than on the video. I'm glad that I can't hear it through my headphones, because otherwise the noise would have pivoted me towards returning the card. Temps and performance is still very good after having Strix 1080 Ti.
@kyleboi76
@kyleboi76 Жыл бұрын
Where u getting this card from ? I can not find it any where
@eliaskauppi7888
@eliaskauppi7888 Жыл бұрын
@@kyleboi76 From Jimms in Finland. Proshop too has stock. Dont know about US.
@kyleboi76
@kyleboi76 Жыл бұрын
@@eliaskauppi7888 Cheers am in the uk been trying to get my hands on a aqua or this but they is nothing they aint even listed
@mattiacaldera
@mattiacaldera Жыл бұрын
If you do some undervolting with OC, you get even better results
@agoogleuser7899
@agoogleuser7899 Жыл бұрын
Nice water flow through the block.
@VforVentouza
@VforVentouza Жыл бұрын
I had it for a few days and absolutely loved how it looked and how it ran. Sadly it was not compatible with my VR headset, which I guess is what it is, but the coil whine was just too much. I have a very silent PC on my desk and this was simply ruining it. I'm very sad about it cause I really loved its looks.
@botbeamer
@botbeamer Жыл бұрын
as long as the coil whine doesn't affect performance or durability I don't mind it, I think the card sounds great
@Nelthalin
@Nelthalin Жыл бұрын
Where van you buy the 2x8p version of wire view? I love how it looks. I wonder what would have happened with this card if you lowered the target voltage like 50-100mv.since since you are still power limited it would be very interesting to see if you can hit 3000MHz+ with the low temps it might be possible. The clock curve will be steeper. Just like with RDNA2 you would want to stay below the power limit on RDNA3 to keep the clockspeed predictable and constant looking at what the cards I tested could run with the stock MBA cooler and power limits 3GHz should be possible with this card if you tweak it to the limit by also Undervolting it a little.
@siberx4
@siberx4 Жыл бұрын
The difference between the two BIOS profiles is the fan curves ;)
@Bill-lt5qf
@Bill-lt5qf Жыл бұрын
thank you for mentioning coil whine
@B19902133
@B19902133 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Red Devil limited edition, kinda wishing I had waited for this release lol.
@itsyaboia-dub1120
@itsyaboia-dub1120 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a custom waterblock on the ASRock phantom to compare this to.
@prostreetcamaro
@prostreetcamaro Жыл бұрын
Installed this card yesterday. After tinkering last night I've discovered this liquid devil undervolts a lot more than the 7900xtx red devil it replaces (got tired of waiting for a water block). Which means it OC's higher. 100 shy of 28k in time spy so far and creeping up. Down to 1110mv. Previous card wasn't stable under 1130mv. Don't currently have 5950x fully maxed so I'm sure I'll go over 28k later when I get back to it.
@rENEGADE666JEDI
@rENEGADE666JEDI Жыл бұрын
When you go below 3300mhz@1050v, we'll talk. My nitro+ works on these settings in modern warfare 2. But for RT games I have to lower the voltage to around 1085v
@ShaneWymore
@ShaneWymore 8 ай бұрын
I just installed the liquid devil 7900XTX and noticed that power color didn't install pads on the chokes. There's enough room between the block and the chokes to install them. Weird. I'll be adding pads and repasting tomorrow. I'm willing to bet that coil whine goes way down. Also, without touching settings I'm scoring 31200 in timespy. Boost clocks hit 2900MHz default on Unleashed BIOS. Pretty happy with this GPU, I'm waiting for a replacement from AsRock as I received a faulty GPU in the Aqua OC version. That card hits 3300MHz with the extreme vBIOS no OC but, it draws 530-580W when doing so. I'll play with the values on that one too when the replacement arrives
@adi6293
@adi6293 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, what do you think about the Nitro + with a water block on it? I think that would hit 3.0Ghz on the core
@donaldpetersen2382
@donaldpetersen2382 Жыл бұрын
Look forward to liquid cooled Nitro+
@jdgrupp
@jdgrupp Жыл бұрын
Amazing for a single slot design.
@chveyk
@chveyk Жыл бұрын
Yes. I thought the "pictograms" from the EK are clear to everyone. But no, it turns out that the great derbauer is so "alternatively talented" that he did not understand them !!! The EK logo is an ARROW. showing "inside", and the "owl" logo is like an "out" arrow
@mattbelmonte8334
@mattbelmonte8334 Жыл бұрын
Roman, will you be able to compare this to the AsRock Aqua 7900xtx?
@phantomap1522
@phantomap1522 Жыл бұрын
Quick note, in the video when you are showing graphs of frequencies, the Y-axis reads "Power Draw in W", it took me a few blinks to reset my brain and figure out that this doesn't mean I need a 3 kilowatt power supply :')
@Skop_p
@Skop_p Жыл бұрын
I know the video is about the gpu. but im more interested in that 3x8pin wireview.
@antoniocepaj7544
@antoniocepaj7544 Жыл бұрын
One thing that can also be improved is location for water entry/exit into the water block. Waterblock's slot size or length in most cases isn't issue will it fit insade smaller cases, but problem is width. My question is why not separate those entry/exit points by moving water entrance to top left corner, and exit to bottom right corner, that way even if GPU is vertical mounted or regular, water can have natural flow. + Width of card is reduced.
@antoniocepaj7544
@antoniocepaj7544 Жыл бұрын
Also if they added one more power connector, why wouldn't be possible to have them put at end of GPU, instead of traditional way on side ? That way it would even further reduce width of GPU.
@TheHighborn
@TheHighborn Жыл бұрын
My liquid devil, with a bit of OC, easily pushes 3ghz in spiderman 1080p (with raytracing). It can spike up to 3.1. I can push it higher, but it's unstable.
@Thoringer
@Thoringer Жыл бұрын
It may be the glue/underfill is there to protect in case someone uses too much liquid metal replacing the standard paste. If it trips, it would more likely drip that direction?
@cutcorners6005
@cutcorners6005 Жыл бұрын
gluing memory is such a sledge hammer solution and I am not sure if it even works. Newer designs are moving the memory and gpu core higher to counteract the pcb bending.
@PeakKissShot
@PeakKissShot Жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the ASRock aqua 7900xtx vs this? I am running the aqua myself and it's wonderful so far.
@darjanator
@darjanator Жыл бұрын
Interesting how the EK logo looks very much like the PowerColor logo on its side. Wonder if that played any role in the partnership and should definitely play a role in marketing!
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын
might be
@maz-pg5en
@maz-pg5en Жыл бұрын
Haha I never realized the logo thing until you mentioned it. There should be a miniature devil logo next to the EK logo on the bottom right
@alexandrepimenta3480
@alexandrepimenta3480 Жыл бұрын
Please Man, what qdc conections you use?? Tks for the videos.
@DS-pk4eh
@DS-pk4eh Жыл бұрын
It would be good if you can have several allinOne GPU water cooling solutions to compare. Something that is easy to install
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
If the trend continues for high power/high heat cards, it will be surprising if air cooled cards (at least at the higher tiers) will continue to be made. It does seem like we are due for a technology change though, or graphics cards will need their own cases and psu's.
@puciohenzap891
@puciohenzap891 Жыл бұрын
The EU wants to ban ICE cars and such but in reality they should create a hard cap on computers power draw to be honest. Like 400-500W maximum for a gaming prebuilt and such. Maybe then the devs will actually learn doing their job properly in optimizing the games, utilizing the available threads and stop with crappy ports.
@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords
@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords Жыл бұрын
@@puciohenzap891 its the wild west when it comes to all of this stuff , I feel devs gave up and hope for brute force on theyre games now
@joshtheking1772
@joshtheking1772 Жыл бұрын
Its not built or designed to be compared to air cooled cards though.
@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords
@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords Жыл бұрын
@@joshtheking1772 that's where KZfaqrs blur content vs usage, it confuses ppl because like you said product's like these are niche but makes for great content when comparing
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@puciohenzap891 if that is enforced, the only thing you will get is like with 85% guns in the US, where a manufacturer sells you a mostly complete kit to assemble the gun yourself. Just ship the PC and the GPU separately as different purchases. Also if you think gaming companies that do crappy ports do anything more than crappy ports you are sorely mistaken. The most they will do is not make the port at all so the game becomes console-only. To be fair I'm fine either way, most crappy port games are trash with microtransactions and season passes that I'm happy to leave to the plebs on consoles
@PAPO1990
@PAPO1990 Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with the Liquid Devil cards (I have a 5700XT LD) is maintenance. I had to open mine up to clean it (never using coloured coolant again) and to get to most of the screws I had to destroy the nice metal covers on the front, now they are all bent and kinked, there's no way I'm going to get them flat and pretty again, and underneath them was lots of now ugly glue.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to have the resources to test if having 32MB of additional L3 cache on die, along side the 96MB of L3/L4 on the MCM would significantly increase performance over the current RDNA3 design. There must have been a reason AMD put the 3D cache on top of their CPUs instead of the much cheaper, and cooler IO die, i feel like this is the reason RDNA3 acts so slow, because it has to go off-die to get the cache.
@dot5799
@dot5799 Жыл бұрын
When can we expect TG WireView to become available (both 12VHPWR and 8-pin variations)?
@marekciostek1458
@marekciostek1458 Жыл бұрын
So we need now to Sapphire do their: TOXIC Radeon 7900XTX. But this Power Color Liquid Devil is a monster. I hope they get pre-binned better chips like in 6950XT Red Devil. Now we need to Micron do some 24Gbps GDDR6 memory and we will se 7950XTX :D
@Revoku
@Revoku Жыл бұрын
pcb looks almost identical to the upper 6000 series cards from powercolor, fan header, switch, led headers power stages all in the same spot as my red dragon 6800xt, only real diff I can see is the extra 8 pin and the capacitors I assume are on the back and are the solid type instead of electrolytic the same as the 6900xt red devil
@PajakTheBlind
@PajakTheBlind Жыл бұрын
Are there ways to get a hardware readout from the card to motherboard sensors to manage the fanspeed?
@samvega827
@samvega827 Ай бұрын
Is it bad to run a block reversed like that? I never even thought about that before lol. I have the asrock phantom gaming 7900xtx that I just put on an alphacool waterblock and I love it!
@gordonfreeman320
@gordonfreeman320 Жыл бұрын
When WireView becomes available to purchase, will the user be able to "flip" the display? My case uses an inverted motherboard design, so I don't want the text to be upside down. Thanks!
@1211evis
@1211evis Жыл бұрын
Hi when can buy the PCIE power meter? it look really cool
@gungyeon6208
@gungyeon6208 9 ай бұрын
This card gets hella hot for demanding games. I think water cool is the way.
@xXmobiusXx1
@xXmobiusXx1 Жыл бұрын
Drop the core voltage a bit and the core clocks will rise, a bit of a balancing act. On older drivers I was able to hit 2900 core average, 2714 vram, @ 1045 mv on the air cooled XFX Merc 310 Speedster Black edition RX 7900 XTX. Getting a score of around 7050 on 3dM speedway.
@dukejukem8843
@dukejukem8843 Жыл бұрын
The Unleashed BIOS clock was 3915 mhz and the OC was 3940 mhz. Apparently Unleashed means Silent/Power Saving in terms of clock speed.
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