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“ I can’t let you get close “ classic!

Important watch. Tnx.

Training with Jeff was unlike anything else I had learned to that point. It opened my mind up to so many possibilities. I call it WING-CHAN

I don't think it is too advanced! If you learn how from day 1, it becomes second nature just like everything else. Great video! Want to send me that clip from that seminar?

These dudes are unique! Jeff is dangerous even in slides and Mike talks self defense while setting trip wires! LOL

I don't know how to fight, but I do have some experience with wrestling from 4 years of high school. I worked as a bouncer for a short while, and I only had one move, but it worked every time. I would do my best to avoid the fight, hands up saying "I don't want to fight" and if the person continued forward I would open hand "tap" them in the face with my left hand. It didn't look like a punch so my opponent never thought I was trying to fight them, rather just trying to bat them away, immediately after I would go for a blast double leg or a duck under the elbow to their outside into a two on one arm grab and onto the floor. From there i went for any type of choke hold I could get until they didn't want to fight anymore, help arrived, or they went to sleep. That was always my first move. I probably got very lucky to never get hurt, but usually I would de escalate most situations before it even got to that. Just wanted to share 😊

“Being a big man really doesn’t matter, it has no significance in knocking out someone… the key to knocking someone out is to throw a punch that they really can’t see.” It’s amazing how many brilliant boxing tips and observations Mike Tyson has to offer

As a former bouncer I was generally in tight quarters a lot and the in close chin height elbow was a reliable fight stopper. I;m concerned that the long swooping lead cross -low kick combo would be really vulnerable to almost any kind of wrestling takedown.

I have a case for the front kick from personal experience. I was once paired up in a Pencak Silat class to spar with a very intense guy who felt he had something to prove, and we're both heavyweights. I think it was his first sparring and he radiated aggression, despite me and the coach telling him to take it easy. I knew he was going to go full force and I was scared to get into that fight because I wasn't super experienced either. Still somehow, noone called it off, including me. The moment the coach said "go" I sent out a non-telegraphed front kick full force, no setup, no steps, and lo and behold, on go he had leapt forward to throw a straight right and just ran into my foot. He did not go down, but he folded and stopped to take a breather. I apologized and explained why I had gone so hard, he admitted he was going to do the same, coach told both of us to relax and a minute later, we had a good spar. But ever since then, I think the front kick is one of the best first moves to use. It's very quick and straightforward, almost anybody can do it, it covers and/or creates some good distance, it's easy to follow up with combinations and mix-ups, it usually does a reliable job to get the other person to drop their hands and lean their head forward and a clean hit will at least stun even a committed attacker for a moment. What do you think?

My father was a career Army NCO and hand to hand instructor. We moved a lot and my brother and I were in more than a few scuffs as the new kids. Dad taught us that when challenged to put up your left hand, palm out ,as if to say "I don't want to fight, " and when your opponant touched that hand with his body either a front kick with all you had to the nuts or a ridge hand to the side of the neck. The ridge hand worked twice for me over the years between 8th and 12th grades and dropped the other kid both times . End of fight.

He maintained his reactionary gap while politely telling The Axe Murderer that he didn’t want to fight. It was incredible…and it happened in Brazil. That’s worth mentioning.

Jeff Chan's right hand strike is just a variation of a blitz that is taught in karate for point fighting. Wonderboy has shared things similar on his channel for technique Tuesday many times. Him and his pops have do it multiple times during mitt sessions on their videos. It is a great technique. Thank you for sharing.

I've pushed alot in self defense. Why? 1. I train to push hard so they usually fall over 2. It gives you a second to assess who else is attacking around you (Never believe it's one on one, it rarely is) 3. You can assess if the person you pushed is aggressive and get great timing and position for a powerful strike as they rise. In most cases they've given up or given up to come back later, following a push (so if they're still around, try to relocate to somewhere safe).

I get so much from Icy Mike’s and his friends. Something that I love is how he implies that he is always just scratching the surface regarding any topic and that there is always so much more that he knows (than you)(seriously). Talented people are obviously all the same: they know a lot because of their talent and they won’t tell you all of it until you go through the mill. Lol.

Honestly, it's so cool to see things like Jeff's cross get broken down. The building blocks of our bodies and fighting always stay the same, but the situation and context changes what's important. I don't think Jeff realizes that he just taught a fencing lunge more effectively than I've ever had anyone else do so. Of course you'll attack with the lead (weapon) hand, but the footwork and the "darting or committed" parts are so analogous.

The low kick as a bail out is brilliant. Sweet, concept

I’ve done the push away several times in self defense situations. However, I’ve been taught a scoop or “up and away” motion. Done properly, it kinda lifts opponents off the ground and disrupts balance. Has always worked for me. Great video!

Jeff's darting punch with the low kick is golden! I learned it from him in Sydney with my son and it was amazing

13:59 I think you can definitely teach Jeff’s darting cross-low kick system after people get some sparring experience. Cuz I think by that time, they’ll already have a fuller understanding of the timing that every strike takes, how their body moves specifically in sparring, how something “being off balance” in ONE moment of a fight ISN’T always a bad thing.

I use the cross to low kick technique allot in sparring. Kudos to Jeff. It is a high probability combo. Most people cover high and get wide open down low.

I've loved this channel for a long time, but Icy Mike giving Uncle Chael his props only reinforced my opinion that this is the best self-defense channel on the 'Tube.

Jeff showed us this at the seminar in Sydney last month. It was so hard doing the "wrong" footwork.😂 But, of course, Jeff taught it so we got it. 🙂🖖🏻

I was literally having this convo today, and I trained for that wtf, how did you know what I want to watch

love seeing you and Jeff breaking stuff down! he seems like a good dude

Me personally. I would teep as a first strike. It's a bit more aggressive than a 2-handed push and till knock most opponents off balance. Helps create the distance, which buys me time to make my next move.

Brilliant deceptive technique Jeff…Bravo!

I think a general rule of thumb is if somebody approaches you with clear intent to harm you, use whatever you're most comfortable and confident with, for chael thats the good old double leg, but ofc if youre in a crowd as was demonstrated by that clip that can still go wrong, luckily he was in a semi controlled environment and had his team to back him up physically

So being a former soldier.. I was taught to always pay attention to detail and body language... act apon threat and bubble space.. it has always worked for me.. if course after I've tried to de escalation..

The biggest arms, the greatest charm, and he was here to do some harm

Man, I love that you look at (and splice in) footage of real-world altercations when you're talking about self-defense situations. It's too easy just to pontificate and come to bad conclusions when it's not grounded in what people actually do.

Hey Mike, I have a pretty gnarly exit strategy for the eye jab. After the jab leave the hand on the face. Push on the face if you need to. Take big lunging penetration step with the same side let as you bend elbow so that your forearm rests against their chest. For best results try and connect with the forearm/ elbow before your step hits the ground so your entire falling force sends them flying.

Really enjoying your presentations. Thanks for your hard work.

Also, over committing with the right hand ( or rear hand) sets you up with power and closes range for the opposite hand to land, if you allow the weight to transfer into the opposite stance, if I'm explaining myself correctly. Keep up the great videos. 👊🏼

Power Push, Super Slap setup step ❤. Then there's that "obligate to parachute" "commit and repel" maneuver. WOW!

That darted cross is a standard straight punch in Krav Maga. Driving off the planted foot is called a burst and it is designed to end the fight as soon as possible.

ayeee another reunion with Jeff, love to see it! gotta get into the 2 courses you mentioned

It's always entertaining and educational watching and learning from your videos. Thank you, IcyMike and Jeff! You guys are TopG!

For self defence pre-exemptive strikes, you could also consider moving in by taking an actual step. this can set up a range of exists, either by stepping back or by forward offline / past.

I love the way you brain works when it comes to self-defense. I teach self-defense for women I try my best to teach them the realism of combat fighting. a lot of women don't know how to fight but just swing and hope to hit something, versus training and know where to strike. your videos always give me an open idea of what to look for and train to be better for myself as well. awesome OSU!

OK...I haven't finished the video but the way you slid the ad into the video as well as your other videos is interesting and I don't think I have ever skipped one of them. Keep it up.

Brilliant video. As soon as I saw Mike start setting the tripwire up I knew what he was planning. Genius as always. 👍 (That tripwire is really cool).

I loved watching your techniques in action in the self defence games.

Love you're channel, and I learn.

Having hip arthritis, I am so filled with envy watching you get up and down in the first part of your video.

Jack Dempsey’s book Championship Fighting is the fundamentals of fighting. Everyone who wants to know how to defend themselves and/or fight should read it cover to cover

At my old gym the basic cross hook cross was our go to "self defense" combo, with the idea being that a jab is largely unnecessary when trying to end the fight as fast possible against an untrained person.

Strikin' Mike coming through with content.

Dude I can’t let you get close!

Loved this!

This is pretty interesting as a discussion! I think what is or isn’t too close is always contextual, and you do cover that. An elbow over the top (or as a Bajiquan style battering ram) from established grips can be great at super close range. That front kick to sit them down is useful, of course, but like you said it’s still not the longest weapon someone has. [[ As a side note, since I mentioned Baji, I’d be interested to see what you think of body checks, hip bumps, shoulder strikes and the like in close quarters. They work kinda like ‘ramming’ headbutts without using your head, just on a different axis. I also think Seth’s sumo and American football training would be relevant for stabilising the spine, since ramming with the shoulder can jolt the head if you aren’t prepared. ]] From a pokey-sticks perspective, Jeff’s ‘overcommitted’ cross into double-step low kick (or that pivot) is kinda like the Olympic fencing flèche [the French word for ‘arrow’], just with an in-built exit strategy. In a sport like modern fencing, getting out safely isn’t part of what wins points (just what avoids giving up points), so they focus on running right past the opponent afterwards. What we see with Jeff’s system is a layer of versatility added when translating the same body mechanics to an unarmed context, and I find that really cool even if you were translate it back to weapons. Thanks again for the good video! Wanna know? I can’t let you get close!

Your videos have always been good. But as of late they've been very good AND super interesting. Keep it up, Mike! Would you ever consider doing a video on Miyamoto Musashi? I'd love to hear your take on his life and writings.

I personally like the classic jab cross stepping in and out, especially if stepping out on an angle but I'm a tall guy. The cross showed in the video is awesome though

This is what Lee may have suggested- If your opponent is standing square- groin kick from your lead leg to close into an eye jab. Or opponent is more side stance, knee kick to eye jab. Follow each with a cross. Bounce out to assess

Ultimate collab!

I know you're not big on sword fighting but I've learned to do something very similar to that committed cross with an exit strategy as one of my main "first intention" actions. Very rare that someone actually catches me out on it.

Side-kick to the knee/right above it, will always be a personal favorite self defense technique

In a self defense situation I either want to disengage or really hurt them. If they want to make it an issue where I have to defend myself, oblique heel kick to the knee is my go to because I can hit it from different ranges and angles and I can defend myself at the same time. If I hit it right, it means that my ability to get away is heightened because having them screaming in agony on the ground unable to follow is something that can happen with that kind of kick. It's also not fancy and it's easy to execute with a little training.

Chuck Liddell used to advocate for a similar combo. He also did a leg kick to right hook combo. Both make up for awkward positioning of the second strike by leveraging your inertia and elastic recoil.

The "Quick explanation" was excellent!

Great video. I enjoyed your presentation and i need some of those fifthops doodads.

That was a lot of fun. Thanks. I've always liked the push, just from a legal/justification point of view, but you gave me a lot to think about. I must also give you props for the way you slotted in the sponsor. Very well done (maybe you could show their logo, though).

Watching them playing in the parking lot wearing slides, reminds me of me and my friend showing each other fighting moves from TV when we were 10.

Peter Consterdine, the British Combat Association guy and ex bouncer, teaches a sliding/overcommitted straight right, similar to Jeff's, to intercept an incoming opponent, immediately followed up by hooks, slaps, or crosses, using the momentum and alternating left and right strikes. Martial Arts Journey has an episode with him, you should check it out, he's excellent, especially when he explains the double-hip mechanic for short-range strikes and how to flow through for a subsequent combination. The greatest gem from him, though, is the use of a trigger word with your strike so that you condition yourself to say something and immediately throw, helping break that freeze response or overthinking under adrenaline.

Some of the best SD stuff I’ve seen. Love Jeff Chan, too

I like Jeff's move the most because it has an exit but for people who don't train often or at all the eye jab seems most practical. It requires the least amount of practice to do effectively, and on top of that most people can put their hand or fingers out even under stress.

Probably the two best teachers on the internet constantly sparring learning experimenting without ego against different scenarios

Jeff is one of the OG GOATs! I learned so much from him over the last decade

Solid thought experiment. I appreciate the focus on gross motor techniques. Your last point is quality, if you have enough balance and skill to pull off Mr Chan's striking techniques, you probably don't need to. Another throw away but super important point you made was "sending" the technique without telegraphing. I could be wrong, but I suspect slap vs eye gouge decision may be based on what is open in the moment.

for close combat definitely: eye poke👀 -> front kick🦵 -> run🏃 eye poke lets them probably move back a little bit, maybe they even tilt back their upper body.. then you should have good range for a front kick and because they are probably already tilted back a little, there's a big chance that they are gonna fall backwards. then you have a huge time advantage when darting to run🏃‍♂️

That was dope!

I love this video 🙌 I'm all a flashlight carrier because of this channel.

I like the last point you made about how the footwork and concept of what Jeff does Could work, but probably isn't as viable to people who don't train or compete. Like I can't imagine teaching my gf to do that in a self-defense situation, so that was a good catch at the end. This topic is definitely tricky, because there are so many variables, but its cool that you gave lots of options throughout the video, even if none of them were the definitive "right" answer... which makes sense because the best answer is whichever one fits the situation someone is in

Icy Mike and Jeff in my hometown and I missed it, please comeback soon

I do work on a lot of what you spoke about. The main thing is to have a core few moves you work on(maybe as basics). I have a core 6 I work on. The key is to have some automatic moves.

at elbow / knee range, I've been teaching to do a shin kick instead. it's harder to spot, especially if you have your hands up and drawing attention away. could be followed up by an elbow. the exit strategy? buy enough time through inflicting pain that you get enough of a head start to run away. the bonus is if you kick hard enough to fracture their shin (or if you go for an ankle or foot stomp instead), they can't run fast enough to chase you down.

Yes! The darting cross. Looks very "fencing" like. If I could teep better, I'd use that in closer quarters.

Watching Jeff Chan slickly demonstrate this movement in slides both dealt me psychic damage and inspired me to start shadowboxing in sandals.

'you have one free shot' hilariously telegraphed overhand right

Long range: Muay Thai teep. Guy in my Dojo ended a bar fight in 2 seconds last month with one. Sent the guy into the wall. Medium range: For bigger guys, strong arm > off balance > vicious low kick on lead leg. Will require drilling. Smaller guys, non-telegraphed straight punch combo (same in the video) Short range: close arm elbow to the chin as fast as possible. Also should drill those.

I used the two handed push against an aggressive neighbor who obviously had intent to hurt me. He followed me all the way from my back yard to the front of the building and approached me as I was trying to get into my car. The police said me pushing him was justifiable reason to put his gun to my head and scream about how he was going to kill me in front of my children, then he put the gun away and repeatedly punched me in the face until I fought back and got him in a rear naked choke. I was charged with disorderly conduct while defending myself.

That`s amazing the MMA Champ in the parking lot is giving a lesson on the darting cross, wearing slippers on hard pavement.

I teach BJJ I use a collar tie club pull underhook to the clinch, or the crash to the clinch. I like that darting and committed cross. That looks awesome! I’m not that great at striking so I probably couldn’t pull that off. Haha

As a smaller guy I go, in this order; 1) Nuts (easiest target), 2) throat (no such thing as a muscular larynx), 3) eyes (brutal damage from a minimal strike).

Your right. That over committed swing and low kick thing is over my head. I gotta play with that some.

I just realized Jeff's "darting cross" is very similar to what Jesse taught in Kevin Lee's video about karate. Where both Jesse and Jeff CHOSE to go "off balance" in favor of getting in and out.

I'd put that alarm on my Bike. excellent video, thank you!.

As a bigger guy, I think my go-to opener would be a telegraphed forward step into a full force, uncontrolled outwards swing with the leading arm. Not because of it being practical, but because it communicates that "I'm angry, I don't want to fight you but will do my best to hurt you if you don't stay back", as well as pumping myself up, since I'm usually quite aloof and I need to get some adrenaline going if things escalate. It's not a strike I want to actually land, it's mainly to scare people off. IF they try to go in afterwards I'm a judo guy so I'd mainly rely on grappling. But I've noticed that when pressured this seems to be my most primal "Get off me" response so I think I can sell it better than any other potential strike.

Craig Douglas Is the man! Y’all are awesome brother I love the channel and content, thank you for keeping it real!

So as someone with painful joints...i faced getting old when all my old injuries started bothering my sleep... I will never close my fist on the first strike. Naturally it's open hand and a pensador type stance. low kicks and open hand to strike...hmm I'm going teep/front push kick as my option. To push means space to run or follow up with takedowns or seeing if they on shakey ground/off balanced. Jeff chan is amazing!!

One of the first "rules" I ever heard. Or it's a principle. "Don't walk up on me." "Don't invade my personal space."

Be interesting to see how this changes if you're primarily a grappler. So whatever strike you're throwing is to give him something to think about so you can come to grips.

I have already done a right cross-right foot front kick combo on one guy (bigger) and a collar grab and choke/push on the other one (smaller). I was bigger and stronger than them, it worked although we were on ice so were sliding all around😀

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that people who can do Jeff's dart cross/low kick combo are probably advanced enough to do what they want against an untrained attacker. Any kick other than a soccer kick will be hard for people not committed to training or who can't train effectively (old people, women, etc.). I think the non telegraphing eye jab you mentioned early in the vid is more doable for people who aren't trained fighters. It's the most effective if it connects its target and is physically simple and can be practiced at home easily as well.

Hey Mike. The late kickboxing champion Joe Lewis, not to be confused with the late boxing champion Joe Louis, made a whole series of videos on kickboxing and sport karate but somewhere in the middle of that series can't remember the video number he made a video entitled the ten best self defense techniques. That video is posted on KZfaq. Shows what he considered the fastest strike, the fastest kick etc. Anyway in my opinion it shows a lot of good first strike options. Oddly enough to me it doesn't talk about the set point control principle which he considers the most important strategy in all fighting. I believe that principle applies to all forms of combat. A lot of people say you should hit first in a fight but I am sure you have seen people attack first and get countered and lose the fight. That principle shows is so important in preventing that if you choose to strike first and may help keep you safe if you don't. Maybe. I am definitely going to check out this Craig Ferguson and how he approaches eye gouges. I believe that people tend to either overrate or underrate eye gouges. Lastly the last technique Lewis teaches is the best finishing hold. He shows a move that he has used five times in real life for real to end fights. Starts from standing position facing his opponent goes for a rear naked choke and explains his four out of five of his opponents dropped to the ground unconscious because of the way his arm struck their neck on his way to applying the choke.

I remember seeing a video on Lyoto Machida where he closed distance between a jab and a cross by jabbing left, stepping fully forward with his right as he crossed, then taking another big step with his left as he jabbed again. Definitely karate footwork since it broke the boxing principle of not crossing your feet. But, it worked - he crossed most of the cage in 2 steps and landed all 3 hits with quick forward pressure. I wonder if that footwork could make Jeff’s very committal technique a bit safer, since his feet would be under him and his head not jutted so far forward.

I like the eye jab. If you want to be "nicer", you can flatten your fingers so it can become just a palm strike.

Never just one shot. Always a combo...almost always lead with the left. The best, if it looks like it will work, is the left jab to the nose followed by the right cross to the jaw; the classic 1-2 that has knocked out more people than any other technique. I practice on the heavy bag always using combinations of three different punches, left-right-left. I forgive you for insulting me a couple years ago... and I resubscribed. That french knife attack video was so good I have changed my mind out about you.

Bruce Lee emphasized eye jabs. His whole philosophy was simplicity and efficiency for the street (no rules). Kick to the jewels bring down anyone no matter how big they are- and kicking is the longest weapon. A side kick to the knee cap he also mentioned is using the longest weapon to the nearest target of the body. Guy was ahead of his time.

I agree the straight right if the guy is closer or a check hook. No long punches like he's demonstrating. The kick can trip and throw off your balance. Otherwise it can miss high and they can dive in to your legs and take you down.