Extremely impressive, indeed.

Yeah I voted. Cool idea.

Indeed. This is the best of the best I'ever seen.

It was incredible. This experiment needs to be done every year

Yep literally bending over backwards to highlight Pixel phones.

I've been a data scientist for the last 2 weeks...

@@revirdkcalb 😂

Why there's no s21 fe? Any idea?

@@CarlJohnson-iv7sn It was released 2021, not 2022.

I feel the satisfaction (I am a data analyst) 🤣

Its still flawed. There is still no way of viewing the original resolution of the images. Tons of images will look way worse when you view them on different media.

@@danishblunt9698 Sure, but it's about as good as you can get in this format, and the conversion needed to show them is necessary anyway. What I mean is that this is almost exclusively how people view photos taken on a phone, and with the vast amount of views the color/resolution error between viewing platforms is smoothed out to a nice average of how they actually appear to people. This isn't a comparison about how well phone photos will print for a gallery. It's a perfect representation of the vast majority of their use cases, being online viewing.

@@NautilusGuitars Quite wrong, it can be improved by adding a "view original resolution" also then by uploading said images on various platforms to account for platform specific compression. not only that but there is only 1 picture taken per phone which again is a problem as each phone processes images very different based on situation. The current format is absolute barebones at best and is hardly an upgrade over previous methologies used.

@@danishblunt9698 Ok, first of all, you completely misinterpreted my initial point and went on an entirely different subject. I entertained it for the sake of argument, but you're adding way too much weight to this one specific, and quite unimportant, factor. As for my initial point, it was that the _methodology_ was sound. Not the means, the methodology. Meaning, the way in which the test were _executed_ instead of the means by which they were. Regardless of your opinion on the means of displaying the photos, the way in which the test was organized is sound, as there is a one-to-one comparison between each photo, allowing an equally weighted average score to each. there also wasn't "1 picture taken per phone". Did you even watch the video? There were three significantly different photos per phone. As for resolution, this is a nearly insignificant factor. Any photographer, such as myself, will tell you that resolution is quite unimportant for anything but large format prints and displays. Even then, we're rarely using the full resolution of even a low megapixel photo. Color, sharpness, separation, lens characteristics and distortion correction, histogram, noise, etc are far more important. All of these things are baked into a phones jpeg file. The vast majority of displays will reproduce these qualities faithfully enough for very low error results. All phones use sRGB. All displays use sRBG. Nothing inherent about the photos will be altered by having the resolution changed. Resolution/size is _not_ what determines the quality of a photo. The vast majority of people voting in this test wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between full or lowered resolution versions of these photos on the displays they're viewing them on. And again, none of the qualities that are important would be effected if they could. a 32mp photo with clipped blacks/highlights and bad color will always look worse than a 10mp photo with a good histogram and good color.

@@NautilusGuitars You went defensive quite quick. What you're trying to do now is to somehow talk yourself out of it. Displaying the pictures in certain ways, multiple images taken and different converted images are still part of the methology. You're just trying to redefine at this point and honestly, you look silly in your attempt.

They sick phones too! And have a headphone jack!! I actually might go for one on my next upgrade

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Dude, spolier alert 😆

@@Samdevay whatever you choose, make sure you not only choose the phone, but the eco-system that comes with it (or without in most other cases).

@@AlanGurling Sure

@@Samdevay You can probably get the Pixel 7 for that price range. It wasn't included in the test but I'm sure it rates as high as the P6A. And it's got the same hardware as the P7Pro aside form the telephoto lens. Which the 6A doesn't have either.

But that doesn't make sense? The person who voted saw the image on the display of his pc or mobile? So it wouldn't be best phone camera for his eyes. It would be best phone camera for the display he voted it through.

flaws How about color accuracy? In those pictures I can see some colors look more kind of neon looking than others. This test is cool but some flaws. A person would have to be at the location to physically compare real colors with the photo colors. Also, you have people voting on more than likely incorrect display calibrations on various devices. So colors, brightness and sharpness can all be vastly different. It's better to get several people at a location to do this on correctly calibrated displays with the actual colors from the real life items to compare too.

@@robertlawrence9000 The person's background also matters a lot. As a photographer, the first place for standard photos at 9:44 is a bit of an eyesore, unnatural look with too much highlight recovery on the window. We have gotten too used to HDR!

@@alvareo92 yes because HDR is pleasing. many '''real'' cameras jpegs would suffer in the standard test because they dont do jpegs with such strong HDR.

@@robertlawrence9000 calibration on devices has gotten to a point where unless you are a professional or have bought a device with a really crappy display, it won't matter as much; nowadays it isn't rare to find budget monitors having a delta less than 2, and 90-something coverage of sRGB which is huge. Of course, it isn't perfect by any means but this test is leagues ahead of any other review in other channels as camera comparison it goes.

Haha. I was the same. I liked the Sony's photos cause they seemed more like what I would expect from my mirrorless interchangeable lens camera, which makes sense since its a Sony as well.

Agree, Sony have different approaches then all of these phone which rely on computational algorithms processing, but Sony act like camera, that’s why I prefer Sony result so I can manipulate it later

finally someone get ahat sony offers. all these test is non edit social ready photos. real photographers need natural photos

FACTS this is for being influenced with minimal effort. Sony is amazing for editors

Xperia I mark V is out now.

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I was thinking the same. I am 100% sure this video is going to land in every camera department manager's mailbox. This experiment is a goldmine for R&D.

100% some

They should

The data itself is actually very valuable $$$

@@8020Alive the brightest photos came dead last in the portrait mode test...

Here before someone says there's no comment :)

@@Yaveen Those commenters are annoying. Though I thought it would have more comments with over 350 likes.

This is the most honest video I have watch on this channel

Ye

@@Yaveen iPhone 14 pro max is just a copycat of Nothing phone 1🎉

Good idea

I am not sure if it would work well. If they used only jpegs, they wouldn't be using all the potential of the sensor and dynamic range and if they shot in raw and processed it, it would depend on how much editing they'd put into it.

NEVER! ruins the comparison. Why introduce irrelevant data? When you're picking the best apple you don't compare oranges do you, or bagels?

@@njsfer you'd be surprised how much that also is the case for phones. Obviously they are oriented for consumers so they have the advantage of image processing, but RAW on any phone can look surprisingly good

@@bowtoy add a pear to see if they can find a difference, it can be a good way to control an experiment from certain biases

You didn't got like btw

@@memories1778 ????

We need Ultrawide and Zoom photos next year.

good idea on paper but adding the dslr would take a ton of votes from the others, making the data less useful

Ikrr!!! This was so cool

@@aashutosh9285 iPhone 14 pro max is just a copycat of Nothing phone 1🎉

@@matpk 😅

Corp jargon is burned into my vernacular lol, this reminds me of work on so many levels 😂. No slight at all, loved the comment but just reminded me of every conference call and email thread at work

I hope they make the data open source

The Mas0nic hand gesture for the night photo 1:10 tells me enough about this whole thing.

@@3KRacing lol

@@3KRacing LOL I'm so sorry. My last day of work for the year was literally yesterday so it'll take me a bit of time to get out of "work mode"

it says that people have no idea of what good photography is and 2nd the photos were not representative enough. You need a variety of photos to be able to judge correctly. Screen size also matters. I explained this in more details in my answers below since this first comment provoked a lot of people (which I understand)

@@smsgvg5994 cry somewhere else you wimp.

@@smsgvg5994 What's the point of "good" photography if people don't like it? lol

@@smsgvg5994 majority always win. cuz that were money at

​@@smsgvg5994 I can agree on the variety part but people don't know what good photography is? Think what you're saying lol. When you say that it makes it you own personal view.

Not a scientific experiment in the slightest, but a good blind camera test.

@@AnwarLL Scientific testing involves figuring out what we would expect to observe if an idea were correct and comparing that expectation to what we actually observe.

@@darkeyezs a scientific experiment is a very different thing to what MKBHD did. Besides the non- probability sampling used, what do we know about the demographics of the sample? There was no random assignment of the sample to experimental groups, no control group. LoL what stats can we point to about the significance of the results? What was the effect observed or not on the sample? This is not a scientific experiment.

@@AnwarLL He broke down what stats we could point to, for example how a brighter image was more desired than a darker one...

@@AnwarLL Scientific experiments do not always yield the expected results or yield correlations. This test was conducted scientifically as it has a large sample size and bias was removed by testing blind.

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Loooved this experiment and I had a grin the entire time. But I wonder if the results were skewed a little bit because of Marcus' complexion? Different cameras take pictures differently for people with darker skin. Google recently made an entire point of trying to fix this problem with their image processing. Do you think it's a coincidence that the Google phones performed better because of that? Just a thought.

@@theaftershow69 Good point. I think different subjects would make for an even more robust dataset.

It wasn't really "scientific" at all tho. He took all pictures in portrait mode but all pictures on his website for this were cropped to squares or even landscape which means you lose literally almost HALF the picture. And that has huge impact of how a picture turns out, how it looks etc.

@Tim R. the effect of the landscape is based on the phone's actual camera's focal length and degree of view.

@@abrahamoluwagbenga9807 what? Dude that doesn't even make any sense. I'm talking about the orientation. All pictures were taken in portrait mode (vertical) while the website cropped them to landscape (horizontal) which means a noticeable part from top and bottom was cut off.

Nope. This data is obviously so biased and I bet even Marquez knows it. It's voted on only by people interested in tech, viewed on different screen qualities, aspect ratios... You're so impressed by a KZfaqr doing a basic scientific experiment. You don't think the brilliant engineers and data scientists who make these phones do wayyyy better tests consistently over the last decade?

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But never underestimate a company's ability to stick to their guns and determine their (potential) users to be the ones in the wrong.

Why Marcus? 😭😂

*Markass Brownie

@@tagbro69 Gotta agree with you on this one. Probably the reason why professional photographing smart phones are the biggest loser on the test. If you actually take the photos on those phones professionally then the results would definitely be better.

I did the test and the best camera was Mate 50 Pro. Shame its banned with Google 😅

iPhone user?

I was really surprised by this video. I have an Xperia 5 II and IV which shoot great photos, so naturally I was surprised tha the Xperia 1 IV ranked so low. Then I figured out why. These tests were performed by regular people who chose the "better looking" photo. A lot of phones automatically enhance photos at point of capture which IMO overdo saturation etc, whereas phones like the Xperia produce more accurate/natural looking photos without going OTT on saturation.

I was thinking the same

Nobody. Nobody. Nobody does it better.

@@abhishek_soni1 came here to say this, but you already did it.

@@abhishek_soni1 you beat me by one second

@@abhishek_soni1 ayoo naughty abhisek!

SIMP

Yes, Marques has really perfected the vote collecting system. He is a goated reviewer for a reason.

The voting system was great, but the method to take photos was very subpar. You could tell for instance some of the phones got sh*t on because it wasn’t exactly the same compared to others.

@@Envy13376 Yeah especially the nightmode ones where the moon was only in the background of some photos

SIMP

@@Envy13376 do you mean that the framing wasn't exactly the same? He covers that in the video. Focal lengths and framing aren't identical across all phones. The photos were all taken with the phones in the same physical position.

True, but what if someone's just taking a break. Went to answer the doorbell etc.

I thought the same thing!

@@RupinderDhamija just put a pause button there

Same. The 6A is my first Pixel, and I've been loving it

The 4 xl I have 2. People still ask each year as I used to upgrade yearly to the newest best thing until the pixel 4xl. 3 years it's a winner. Not the most popular but that 12 mp sensor has had the most optimization of any other optics. In time the 50 will be next.

@@rmejc too bad nobody cares about your opinion :(

@@rmejc don't need to spend a bunch of money for a good phone, or else you played yourself

I have the Pixel 3a, camera on it is absolutely insane, I can only imagine how good it is on the newest models

He's the best tech KZfaqr out there

I think photos quality are very good today, the cameras are very good, but the file size are bad, they need to work on that technology. They keep pushing technology in certain part only. But left out other parts.

@@garylai1083 Tech reviewer* I'd say, but the best tech tuber would probably have to go to Linus Tech Tips, especially with all of the 6 figure projects he's started similar to what's done in this video but more into the technicals.

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@@profacecreator3810 lolll

I doubt it. I can't put my finger on it but pixels are not that... Idk wanted, people just don't think of a great phone when you say pixel

@@shadowboyii why do you care what people think about your phone LOL

@@christobal747 That is so true, I am in agreement with you, however I just think it sure was a GREAT leap for the team to setup something like this, not many Tech reviews are like this, plus I also think the fact that they created room to make "The Law of Large Numbers" influence the final decision. 🙌

Ja. Kind of. You still need to interpret the data. Without that it’s meaningless. Also most important and not mentioned: it was only three pics. I found that „quality“ varies strongly between different motives.

@@HueyMataruse yeah, and I just tried the survey myself. I'm not convinced that it was so useful. I want to see the images ranked results side by side like in the video, but at full size. So many images to vote for, by the end I was just starting to vote on which one was brighter (but not overexposed or weirdly colored, saturated) because the majority of the photos seemed to pit one phone against the absolute worst contender. so forget trying to analyze the photos for sharpness and so forth. my worst contender tried 19 times to win. the best won participated in only 10 attempts. I'm not sure how this survey works. But it seems like it could easily be skewed if my number one phone (Find X5 pro in my case) was lucky enough to be pitted against the worst phones. but it did make for a great video. :D

But you still need an interpretation of that data. MrWhosetheboss talks about something like this in his Nothing Ear review, saying it's not just about specs, it's his opinion. That's why the reviewers make whole videos on it

Eh, this type of study is also bias, and if anything, it's designed to reflect people bias tendency in a spesific use case (aka a quick post on social media, with no edit) It is useful for sure but arguably more for the smartphone manufacturerers rather than the end user (because while it reflect the overall user bias, it does not nessarily reflect your own bias which is all the matters.) If anything a traditional camera review, and especially a technical review, is more useful in that regard. Because it shows exactly what the phone is capable of, and you are the judge of whether that's important to your use case or not.

For a lot of people the camera is far more important than the phone. It becomes a camera that happens to also be able to surf the internet and take/receive phone calls, but it's a camera before anything else.

i bought a pixel 6a but i send back after a week, had battery drain and awfull phone signal... otherwise a compact "almost cameraphone" with decent power for the size (and price)

Yep. I basically never take photos of people, and all 3 of the setups used here were such.

agreed, preferably i would choose a camera phone more towards landscape shooting for travels and stuff, night sky, zooming etc.

@@matpk never really interested in iPhones. was eyeing on the Pixel line but the price tag is just on a different league for me😢

Yeah! I was wondering if a large majority of voters prefer pixel pictures because they might be pixel users? I think a lot of his viewers use pixel phones. So they could be used to specific photos and that could influence their votes even subconsciously? Maybe I’m wrong tho

@@silasben-iesau6859 iphone has a lot more users than pixel, and iphone isint voted high, so being used to the photo effect is probably negligible

The blind nature of this test SHOULD make it impossible to game but having the 3 categories could allow manufacturers to optimize for 3 categories so yeah Marques should think about trying to new categories each year just in case he is biasing the result.

@@megamef . U dumb? Those are most used modes by users. Normal, night and portrait so let manufacturers improve them.

@@megamef They could game it by increasing brightness and contrast of the images - things lay users perceive as "looking better" in those tests, vs. factors professional photographers care about, such as color accuracy, lens distortion, exposure accuracy, texture detail etc. E.g. I know that Apple is optimising the iPhone camera against professional photography metrics, whereas the Pixel seems to be optimised more around lay user metrics.

@@megamefThere can definitely be more categories ! Moving subject, pets, object from close distance. If they want to go even deeper, they could also do the same for video.

@@tudor__ so I work with a Google representative and I am a Google advocate and I have to say, the tech giants absolutely listen to MQB. Some of the stuff they implement actually comes from his videos which I’m sure must be so encouraging for this man. That he does such good work, and is so passionate about it that as a mere mortal he influences big corporations.

Nothing to do with the vast amount of money he earns from doing so...... :-)

@@jaypalmer3806 cope

He should add more categories next year.

not camera but processing of photos😂

Gcam users:

@@shrin210 that is true. Their software is amazing. But the hardware is not as say, an iPhone

@@Fans.of.Darth.Vaders.Empire Gcam still doesn't reach the level of Pixel processing 😂

@@shrin210 A good photo is a combination of good camera hardware and its software optimization. Let's give credit to Google for their hard work and bringing some of the truly best devices at cheaper rates instead of Apple, which is born to loot people's money.

Although I missed "none of these two" button multiple times during the voting + would be interesting to not compare same scene every time... add few more standard light scenes and then let people vote on them randomly

The camera can take pictures as well as videos. But why doesn't he do a video comparison? Probably the best iPhone with cinematic mode.

and live photo

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That’s what I was thinking. I take pictures of objects way more than people. Granted I’m not sure how they can do a variety of settings. Considering it took a while to do the three categories we got. I guess they could make sub categories like landscape, people, objects, etc.

I agree!

Owning the Pixel 6a and am so happy to see my device is preferred for photography! It's so clear, so close to real life and is consistent and clean!

But still ios is ios

@@clementbraimah2001 yeah, boring and stale... have fun with that.

@@clementbraimah2001 enough of iphone bullshit, apple phones are good phones but nothing more, there is NO magic, this is only marketing bullshit!

This, and Linus Tech Tips

Plus mrwhosetheboss

@@szewei85 he's more of an entertainment channel.

If integrity and class are criteria Mr Mobile Michael Fisher is right up there

@@vinaydev437 big respect to MrMobile as well!

I actually have the Xperia 5 IV and the camera is really incredible if you’re using it in manual mode. You can really dial in exposure and take pictures like it’s an actual camera. The “basic” auto mode is very blah in comparison. Worthwhile if you don’t mind taking a little more time with your photos.

@@glenis83 sure, it was just comparing the default settings, I'm pretty sure if you put each of these phones in their "best" camera settings some of the rankings would change.

@@w花b yeah but we also taking in consideration that most of the people aren t profesional photographers soooo

Sony hates computational photography.

@@glenis83 it's been obvious for the past few models that Sony has leaned into "professional" side of the camera phone market more than casual. All their apps are incredible and work with their dedicated cameras as well. The software is great just the default mode is lacking as it's put there because they need one.

I thought it never ended until I figured out it ACTUALLY never ended. 😂

@@tituschon369 he meant the actual test, not the video

Title of your … tape 😂

Huh long whaaa ?!?

I did it over multiple sessions.

he does this every year...this is just a new method.

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@@mohamedrafi1736 hope he continues with this new method

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@@Samdevay iPhone any day. The integration with the ecosystem is stronger compared to other androids/windows PC's I have atm. iPhone's a no-brainer if you are in the apple ecosystem.

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not unbelievable

Also we don’t get the compression that happens on social media.

@@doctorcorgi3134 True!

What phone did u have b4? Any cons ?

@@12day1 iPhone 11

Yep still 4 days old

Isn't that the one with a 60Hz display?

@@dustojnikhummer the same like iphone 14 :v

Is the phone worth getting then? I just wasted money on the iPhone 13 today. I am starting to regret my choice. :/

@@thanod1075 Do what you want. Follow your gut and don’t let other people tell you otherwise. I may not agree with the accolades both Google and Apple gets for its cameras but I can still discuss it.

I respect that even though you use an IPhone you don't just say it's better because it's an Iphone

@@thanod1075 If it makes you feel any better, these tests are very subjective. Do you want a better looking photo, or a more realistic one? Most of these phones do a great job for a non photographer. Besides, the camera is just one feature of the phone. Not to mention software updates could throw a wrench at all these results.

@@thanod1075 everybody here is gonna be absurdly biased, and I'm a pixel shill, so I must uphold the youtube bias tradition by saying that yes, you wasted your money on a bigger number.

😆 TESTES _TESTS*_

What?

Hardly. Interesting, thats all. Some people prefer the opinion of professional photographers, not what people have become used to with todays smartphones and just vote for what they're familiar with. Most images taken with phones these days have filters which over saturate at the expense of accuracy and lossy data, which wouldn't cut it with a decent standalone camera.

@@tonyhawk123 There will always be bias though, has to be a double blind test like this one. Even then, unless you're a professional photographer yourself, you'll probably like what most other people like too.

What I don't get is how the Pixel 6a which has a pretty old sensor beats the Pixel 7 pro which should have a significantly better camera sensor and software yet people say that the pixel 6 has better camera quality than the 6a. I get that megapixels usually don't mean shit but this just baffles me.

@@miklosszederkenyi9342 The phone with the best sensor, Sony, came last, so...

@@PJxpanterx That's what I'm trying to figure out as to why and how? Im not a big phone guy i prefer pcs and I no even less about cameras and photography. What makes a sensor better than another while producing significantly worse pictures? Surely it can't only be post processing and software, right?

@@miklosszederkenyi9342 Post progressing and software is probably why P6a come ahead. Google have been working with IMX363 since Pixel 3 (that's 4 years of RAW from people in Google Photos). Assuming that Google obtain data from how each generation process photos, they have 4 years of data to work on to generate best algorithm for photos. Something that other companies may not have.

I have watched countless videos comparing the P7P and P6P, but I always choose the P6P. There is something about the way the Pixel 6 processes the photos where it's just right.

I only voted in the low-light segment just because i completely forgot about the other ones, but there, The Sony just has a very well balanced picture, it has good sharpness, retains the skintone very well, the background cityscapes isn't super sharp, but very natural, and the car in the bottom right is also very sharp and in detail