The BEST Supra 2JZ Turbo Setup?

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Our Cheap 36K 1995 MKIV Toyota Supra JZA80 Turbo heads to Vibrant Performance for fabrication work.
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@anomamos9095 2 жыл бұрын

Soak the casting in hot water and drain cleaner for about fifteen minutes at most and then vinegar for ten, This will clean impurities out but also erode some of the metal away

@AbeyantHero 2 жыл бұрын

Reassuring to see cross recommendations from SA & StanceWorks channel for Vibrant performance! impressive to hear the tubing can stand the boost

@Bleach26l 2 жыл бұрын

Be careful with it being too responsive on a stock GTE you don’t want more then 650 wheel torque under 4500 rpm or you risk bending a rod. I know you aren’t shooting for high HP. But torque is what kills these motors not HP. Just make sure your tuner is aware and holds off on timing down low. Love the build!

@Skirk84 2 жыл бұрын

It's not to do with what RPM you make the torque, It's just a general thing with response that if you are making any decent power you will make more torque and you will make it earlier. But its just the peak torque figure that puts stress on the engine. I think 800nm is safe, 850nm is where I'd run it and did for 7 years. I'm making roughly 100kw every 1000rpm until 6000rpm, and then slowly building more toward redline. Response is the way to go.

@lordoftherims436 2 жыл бұрын

@@Skirk84 when does boost come on for you? What turbo are u running? And what are you doing to bring boost on sooner and make it more responsive

@darianistead2239 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, massive cylinder pressures low in the rpm will break shit in glorious fashion lol, because those pressures are sustained within the cylinder longer. A response engine should be "built" more so than a higher hp one. You can build pressures gradually over rpm and have a big power figure but results are a safe lazy engine.

@KennyMinigun 2 жыл бұрын

The water itself is not conductive. It is the impurities (minerals, salt, soap, etc) that make it such. You can use distilled water to not get electrocuted

@Dirtyz1234 2 жыл бұрын

I was just going to call you out for not ceramic coating those pipes and then you mentioned Cerakote 😂. Stuff really is a game changer. I can grab the hot side of my turbo after running the car almost before it's comfortable to touch the intake manifold. Just got done spraying some Brembos last night. Can not recommend their products enough!

@earnestbunbury2103 2 жыл бұрын

Russian bots are really stepping up their game...

@Dirtyz1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@earnestbunbury2103 Am much enjoying pie of the apples on Amerikan day of independence such as yourself, comrade

@lordoftherims436 2 жыл бұрын

Whats the point in spraying brembos with it. That would keep the heat in the brakes. You wanna disperse the heat

@Dirtyz1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@lordoftherims436 My thought process is without active cooling across the rotor I'd rather keep the radiant/contact heat out of the caliper than try and dispell it. Would be an interesting experiment to see if there are different situations where a coated caliper is better than uncoated or even a caliper with a finned heat sink with proper ventilation.

@pFbSpecV Жыл бұрын

Bigger isn’t always better! Glad you guys explained the volume of air matters for response!

@Skirk84 2 жыл бұрын

Some nice welds being done, I'm glad you are using those manifolds and getting everything cerakote'd.

@jae9843 2 жыл бұрын

@1:15 lol. Greg's a savage.

@egoboost13 2 жыл бұрын

Damn those clamps really make me want to redo all my piping on my car.

@jdmfreak22 2 жыл бұрын

Greg is a beast. A humble beast.

@JulioBraza 2 жыл бұрын

Looking awesome! Loving this build!

@calebhallberg9938 2 жыл бұрын

I always get excited when I see a new video is up

@guglegugle8075 Жыл бұрын

Bardzo przyjemnie oglada się Twój kanał. Bardzo czysty warsztat i przemyślana robota👌 powodzenia 👍

@MrDannyd9 2 жыл бұрын

Removing the traction TB was a good solution to buy a bit more real estate; good job. 👍

@TML34 2 жыл бұрын

Fancy couplers, DP! Nice work. 😀

@Supra_Rankin 2 жыл бұрын

See if I can push that artec manifold past 750hp...... great build guys really enjoying it

@im_an_alvani 2 жыл бұрын

Was not expecting that ending, going to be great when done!

@c0c0asauce 2 жыл бұрын

I have welded a part that was partially submerged in water before. I had to extend a crankshaft while it was in the block and I didn't want to kill the crank seals (call me cheap.)

@aaronmeldrum8456 2 жыл бұрын

Loving all the vieeos lads keep it up

@jeremiahglass8262 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent work Gentlemen!

@Extinctconcept 2 жыл бұрын

Looking great!

@kc510 2 жыл бұрын

Ready to see this beaut rip!

@anomamos9095 2 жыл бұрын

I'd really like to see dyno tests done on different sized charge piping lengths and volumes etc. I have always thought that as long as your blow off valve is not dumping all the charge there should be no real difference in response once the boost pressure has been achieved. Think of an air compressor tank a little tank may fill quicker but it will empty quicker but a really large tank once filled will take a lot longer to empty. So bigger pipes etc may ultimately reduce lag.

@thumper124cc 2 жыл бұрын

You can get aluminium filler wire with a higher silica content it makes welding castings extremely easy.

@PANTYEATR1 2 жыл бұрын

Greg, you did a good job bro. cast anything is the hardest to make look good. there is a pink acid aluminum cleaner that's made for these types of jobs. I'll see if i can get the name of it and post it.💪

@nexgenjdm 2 жыл бұрын

Wooo! nice setup

@SpeedFreak0122 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for making a response machine

@Pengajim 2 жыл бұрын

You guys still do stuff at the track?

@teinspringz 2 жыл бұрын

So you're recommending taking aoot rubber components before welding👍Got it 😃

@arcadiagreen150 2 жыл бұрын

6:22 someone get this man a tourniquet

@Vaatzes 2 жыл бұрын

The blood is just extra lube for the o-rings

@MelonTL_YH2 2 жыл бұрын

supra requires a blood sacrifice

@dbrandon4528 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait!!

@corwininadsm 2 жыл бұрын

That Twin scroll manifold looks way better, looks like it was designed for a larger turbo and the flow needed for one too.

@lDDD587 2 жыл бұрын

The way he always fans his arms out when he talks is the funniest shit.. It's always the same way too 😂😂😂

@JamieP.London 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work, needs a bigger air filter though

@merkel2750 3 ай бұрын

I’ll be using and supporting vibrant with my next build, they seem like the type of people you want in your corner when your at your wits end with your dumb decisions 😂

@leonardnose5695 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to see the skyline videos

@BarbWaltersMusic 2 жыл бұрын

LZ loves you guys by the way

@ALTW7 2 жыл бұрын

Log manifold is great option for spool and costs , but can't replace the sound a tubular manifold can produce

@NewBootGoofin40 2 жыл бұрын

Love the channel! Keep up the great content!

@wrighty338 2 жыл бұрын

that log manifold brings with it a huge pressure restriction

@NiiHelium 2 жыл бұрын

Omg, I'm on time

@bhogeke1330 2 жыл бұрын

will that one piece pipe hold up to the vibrations and movements from the engine?

@dabarou 2 жыл бұрын

Welding an aluminum casting is no joke!

@BjornFSE 2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@Bob-ir4lr 2 жыл бұрын

Cant wait to see this thing eat

@turtleonmeth1560 2 жыл бұрын

I just recently learned DriftHQ was Adam when I was watching a JimmyO video and he calls up Adam asking him what the HQ stood for to joke around 💀

@TheHondaracingpower 2 жыл бұрын

What kind of welder is that?

@scoutsapp5624 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t see anyone mention it, but I think he might be meaning twin turbo and not twin scroll. A twin scroll turbo is just an turbo designed for better efficiency. A twin turbo has two turbos. But what’s funny is that the stock 2j has sequential turbos, so there are two turbos but it’s not really called twin turbos; although this obviously varies if you change the setup. Anyway, just some random facts I guess.

@ljfurie4085 2 жыл бұрын

If you want a response and torque monster you need the vvti cylinder head.

@dil2502 2 жыл бұрын

Heard of any plans for Artec to build some of those manifolds for the 1J?

@HankookCarbonWRX 2 жыл бұрын

Already in the works.

@dil2502 2 жыл бұрын

@@HankookCarbonWRX Can't wait, hopefully something that'll fit a Chaser! ;-)

@HankookCarbonWRX 2 жыл бұрын

@@dil2502 I can confirm a range of 1jz non vvti and vvti are in development.

@k1wi_steve 2 жыл бұрын

Vapour blast first?

@pkop2jz 2 жыл бұрын

I'm strongly thinking of 2x G30-900s for my 3.4L vvti 10:1 supra lol...

@CMgraffix 2 жыл бұрын

0:07 LOL

@onealgifford3722 2 жыл бұрын

is it possible for 2jz to have equal response like the mines r34?

@FightingSportsMedia 2 жыл бұрын

sure it could, if you spent the same amount of time and money on R&D that Mines did

@ToWi1989 2 жыл бұрын

With that intake pipe having just 1 of those clamps at the turbo side, isnt that pipe just gonna wiggle/rotate around??

@ramdaftar5180 2 жыл бұрын

Did someone say dry ice blasting the engine?

@manitoublack 2 жыл бұрын

Welding old inlet manifold castings is a prick. They soak up somuch oil 🛢

@Sebbe40 2 жыл бұрын

Those pipes are sexy as hell

@pdbnc 2 жыл бұрын

A grinder and paint, makes me the welder I ain't!

@DuoeDuoe 2 жыл бұрын

Can't find that turbo manifold 😔

@speedacademy 2 жыл бұрын

Link in the description.

@Jgill06 2 жыл бұрын

Why not just use a adapter?

@bandwagon240 2 жыл бұрын

I'll go out of my way to spend extra for shipping from Australia if supporting Adum is the alternative.

@01FozzyS 2 жыл бұрын

This.

@dreednlb 2 жыл бұрын

Just curious, what's the issue with Adam?

@HankookCarbonWRX 2 жыл бұрын

Why is that?

@juffurey 2 жыл бұрын

What kind of dumbass cap is that? Or is it more of a headsock?

@MyloShwayze 2 жыл бұрын

That's like $750+ in just clamps lol wtf

@AM-yy5tp 2 жыл бұрын

I think I prefer episodes where you time lapse the actual work and we can see the progress and an end result... Some people may prefer these tech deep dives but it's a bit slow for me. Still love the channel just giving some feedback 👍

@agent_soshi 2 жыл бұрын

Odd music and mixing choice

@jeffsymons7084 2 жыл бұрын

I love you guys and I love the content you make but the pedant in me just has to make a point about the intercooler pipe sizing. Sure 10 liters sounds like a big difference but then you have to consider that a turbo 2jz is capable of flowing hundreds of liters of air per second. The difference in time to fill the pipes is in the milliseconds, quite literally less than the blink of an eye. There is absolutely no harm in running the smaller pipe if you don't intend on making large amounts of horsepower but in the real world changing from 3" to 2.5" piping is not going to change turbo response enough for you to notice.

@speedacademy 2 жыл бұрын

Talk to Ben from Artec who designs the manifolds and has done a ton of dyno testing which has shown that smaller piping actually does make quite a difference. In an ideal world we would have built two systems with both diameters and tested both to show the real world results.

@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын

I agree the smaller tubing is a big mistake. know the testing isn't there like that guy said cause it's not scientific possible. Maybe .01 seconds but it'll be slower everywhere and just more restriction. If the turbo wasn't restricted with a blow off valve and was running past efficiency range of the turbo than smaller piping will help but in this case its a restriction and will lower response time possibly. If better not much

@jeffsymons7084 2 жыл бұрын

@@speedacademy A non turbo 2jz will flow over 70 liters of air per second at 3000rpm. Once you add a turbo on obviously there is even more air flowing. 10 liters takes only a fraction of a second to fill. You don't need to build two systems when some simple math can provide the answer. As I said I am a big fan of the channel and I am not trying to be critical of you. It's a bit disappointing that you blow me off and tell me to go talk to someone else when I have tried to be as respectful as possible and provided you with numbers which back my point. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the pipe size you have chosen, I just believe that in the absolute worst case you are looking about 0.15 of a second difference to fill the pipe. This is one of those old turbo debates that has been around the internet for decades where people like to claim the difference is hundreds or thousands of rpm or measurable in entire seconds. I just wanted to bring some perspective of how small the difference is. I have no doubt your supra will perform and sound great no matter what size piping you choose and I look forward to seeing it finished.

@speedacademy 2 жыл бұрын

Im not blowing you off by any means, we aren’t the experts in this field by any means rather going off of data that’s been provided by Ben which why we’ve decided on this piping route rather than the typical larger sizing. I personally don’t doubt what you are saying but without actual data it’s hard to know what’s right and wrong. I’m adding this test to our list of to dos and I hope that we can find some time to do this and shoot a video on it!

@jeffsymons7084 2 жыл бұрын

@@speedacademy Hey thanks for the kind reply. For what it's worth I think you did make the right choice on the pipe size to suit your application. I guess my ptsd kicked in from early 2000's car forum debates where people used to argue this topic with some very wild claims based on seat of the pants testing. I think doing that test some day would be a fantastic idea that would make for some great content. Keep doing what you are doing, you have been smashing it lately with these projects.

@antipasinchrist 2 жыл бұрын

First, you hosers

@brownah 2 жыл бұрын

Your mom

@yeetanddelete2482 2 жыл бұрын

"Hosers"

@dreednlb 2 жыл бұрын

second

@ThatRedEm2 2 жыл бұрын

Second!!! 🤟

@dreednlb 2 жыл бұрын

third

@SuperKouxiong 2 жыл бұрын

First!!!

@sergiobisonte 2 жыл бұрын

i bet those clamps will leak air!!!

@dreednlb 2 жыл бұрын

Why?

@sergiobisonte 2 жыл бұрын

@@dreednlb dont you see how free they flex??? those orings are greased, they will dry with heat and leak for sure.. those orings are the only thing sealing the joint

@dreednlb 2 жыл бұрын

@@sergiobisonte Vibrant clamps have been around for years now and on some very high boost applications. I'm seeing them everywhere, including on my own car. Never had an issue with them. Several other companies are copying them now, they work/sell so well.