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You will not have the same odds if you put a unit as your second choice, this is because all first choices get drawn first. However some 0pt units are 0pts because there are more tags than total applicants, meaning you can draw with your second choice. You just have to look at the numbers on CPW or TOPRUT to see how many applicants each hunt code has on average. As for points, you cannot gain any points if you draw a tag with your first choice application. You cannot buy points after the April 6th deadline (first draw).

The easiest way to explain it is you can only receive one A coded tag per species. You can not obtain two A list tags. B list tags are different. You can receive a B list tag even if you already have an A list tag. You can get any combination of C list tags. Most desirable tags are A list tags.

There are elk east of I25. But for out of state hunters, hunting public land, it definitely is not the place to look for them. We hunt east of I25 quite a bit for antelope/Mule deer, I have never seen an elk out there but I'm sure they are on some private farms

Hunted an OTC unit for 5 days last year and only ran into an outfitter with his guided hunter. There are definitely a lot of crowded units but there are a lot of places to get away from the crowds as well. OTC units are definitely not the best option when it comes to success but it's the best opportunity to elk hunt for most non residents who are starting out.

You nailed the exact states good lord! I wish CO would treat residents better (limiting OTC archery is a start, I hope they limit OTC rifle for NR too).

Correct! I would be surprised if OTC success rates are even as high as 10%, for archery most sources I have found are closer to the 5% mark.

What about the September all month archery limited draw? I pulled that this year in unit 80. How do you feel about that hunt? I can also put in for the refuge hunt, but that’s so flat, rough with a bow I think. I mean it doesn’t hurt to be able to hunt the refuge area as well as the rest of 80. Any thoughts on that hunt would be helpful.

@dvskane1808 i believe 80/81 was OTC up until a couple of years ago. This means there will be pressure. I know some guys who have been pretty successful in those units. They hunt high, really high, and get way back in there in the roadless areas.

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Alot of people feel the same way Bo. Their is a wave of out of state hunters that bring lots of revenue to the state. I see it both ways, residents deal with more and more hunters every year while bordering states are protecting their residents by limiting non resident tags to 10% quotas. There needs to be a middle ground

Don’t worry the idiots up north are ruining the state faster then we can. Fighting amongst people with the same beliefs and political views sure seems to work in there favor. I used to give Texans the stink eye now it’s only to the left coasters.

The way I see it, public lands give everyone the opportunity to hunt in new exciting places. When I was a resident of Colorado I also hunted other states as a non resident. I welcomed hunters to my state bc their state welcomes me!

Well I made this video and I am a Colorado resident. The truth is we all have a right to get outdoors and hunt on public lands, regardless of state. There are many organizations trying to end hunting and limiting opportunities. As outdoorsman, We should be encouraging conservation and new people to hunt. It's the only way new generations will get to keep doing what we all love.

true, while in GMU 11 back in November, saw a shitload of outta state plates, but they didnt know the CPW reported false numbers of estimated herds during the draw period so about 60% fewer tags were issued with higher numbers of reduced herd numbers for entire NW corner of the state ..... then in August, state announces they cutting 2 days off 3rd rifle in NW corner .... everybody we saw, said same story, no animals, no shots heard.... we left after 3 days

Boooo🤫

Someone explaining the regulations of hunting is "inside info"?

And now you'll get to share your game with the wolves.

In your opinion, what western state does a good job handling these issues? Colorado is beginning to cut tags (eliminating OTC opportunities). And adjust the resident vs non-resident tag allotment.

IMO, Wyoming does a much better job! They have listened to the resident hunters complain over the past several years regarding the non resident hunters and as of this new year Wyoming will now only sell 10% of their big game tags to non residents. Also, in order to hunt national forest in Wyoming you need an outfitter or guide to do so. I am not buying that CO is going fix any of the constant ongoing issues that we resident hunters continue to face. I have heard rumors of OTC tags going away but haven't seen anything legit yet, it's too big of a money maker for CPW. Preference point system is an absolute joke in this state, there are more practical common sense and fair ways to limited draw areas. @@Recruitcreative

@JrL25 I also like how Wyoming protects its residents. One huge difference though is the general population differences in each state. Wyoming has way less people which means less people hunting. For the OTC tags in Colorado, there have already been several units that have been removed from the OTC list. So the assertion that nothing has been done is wrong. Colorado has more elk than any other state, it's an opportunity state, meaning everyone regardless of residency status has a chance to hunt elk. I think that is a great thing and hope it does not change

It's definitely possible!

9 points is more than enough to draw most units. Make sure the units you are applying for don't require more points that you have

There are lots of tags to go around. Colorado will soon be eliminating non res OTC tags so everyone will be required to draw

@@Recruitcreative I go to every damn meeting!!! There may be enough tags but not elk! You ever look at stats??? We don’t got the biggest herd. We about the same as most elk states in elk numbers, but we quadruple amount of tags than those same states! That’s why ppl should stay away! Not enough elk. And the elk that are here and learned how to hide from retard out of staters are going to be killed by wolves! This state a joke! I love where I live, deer heaven, and our genes for elk could rival any unit in nation but they can’t live past 3 yrs cuz of otc pukes!

Us hunters helping each other learn the system isn’t what we would call harm. We agree it makes it harder to draw a tag but why should anyone not be given the same opportunity?

@@Recruitcreative welcome to the laziness of the new age of hunting. KZfaq and social media all for likes is what is ruining it. No one wants to go do it themselves anymore. All at the expense of the animals. Just for a few follower or likes.

@Jeremy Olson we never mentioned any specific locations or blow up anyone's spot. Everything we cover is public information. If you can't be successful because other hunters have the same information as you, then you need to look into your own preparation. That's public land hunting. If you don't like a level playing field, I'd suggest buying a farm and a real tall fence!

This is ignorant. You're just nitpicking issues once they answer your complaint. All this video did was explain an incredibly complicated process. The people with zero points looking to learn more were already going to hunt here. None of this video is "at the expense of the animals". That's word salad because you dislike people being educated regarding hunting in Colorado. "KZfaq and social media all for likes is what is ruining it", you know, you're on KZfaq as well, watching these videos. @@jeremyolson6084

@@comegetsum187 gonna have to make a new video!

We will not take the video down. The draw in Colorado is based on a preference point system. Meaning the applicant with the most points receives the tag. If there are multiple applicants with the same amount of points and not enough tags, it goes to a random draw. There are no tricks to "beating" the system, however being knowledgeable about the process helps hunters make more informed decisions that will help them draw tags.

preference point system my ass , my son and I got cow tags on first try in 23, other son got deer/cow tag first 2 years, your story is full of holes and you dont know WTF you are talking about @@Recruitcreative

Thanks for all your information been applying for a draw in a popular gmu for a few years no luck yet ,I’m not going to give up yet always looking and listening for ideas on how to make a dream hunt come true thank you so much for helping

@user-iu1og8sn2v you can go on CPW or sites such as TopRut to see how many points it takes to draw a tag in that GMU. If you have applied for many years it may mean you do not have enough points

@@Recruitcreative you are still fulla schittt, there is no strategy ... pure luck, and your reasoning with points system is stupid, again, last year was my FIRST attempt at a elk draw ... zero preference points and I got one, same scenario with my son and that was for GMU 211 !!! so your beliefs are fulla schitt and your story is fulla holes you moron