I genuinely think if the Thrashers had stable ownership, they would've stayed put. That 2007 team could've gotten even better if ownership had let them spend to build up the depth.
@PenguinNote6710 ай бұрын
That 2007 team was kinda like the 2020 Cleveland Browns. If the Thrashers had competent ownership, I am 99.9% confident they would still be around
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
How come they don't support tthe ECHL team now? 41.3% capacity? How come hockey registration in Georgia is 0.02% (2020-2021) How come they Atlanta Flames (1972-1980) ALSO failed???? How come no NHL players are from Georgia? If Atlanta/Georgia is a hockey market, where are all the fans and players??? You had 2 teams, for 20 years.... Where are the fans? Nobody plays hockey.... Almost like Atlanta is a terrible hockey market.
@cameronvandevelde418610 ай бұрын
oh 100%! the Atlanta can work no question, it's just too big to ignore and it makes sense on why the NHL is open to going back there according to rumors and what Bill Daly has said recently! I sure Atlanta gets another team in the coming years since it does sound like it! with the rumors of an ownership interested in bringing a team back and the suburbs of Atlanta planning to build an NHL Size area, its steps in the right direction!
@CharlieND10 ай бұрын
@@sampicano If Raleigh, a smaller city in a "non-hockey market" can thrive, then there's no reason Atlanta can't with a competent product on the ice.
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
@@CharlieND Carolina Hurricanes literally lose money for the NHL. It's a revenue sharing league. And according to Forbes - Buisness of Hockey Carolina loses money for the league. So what do you know? Say thrive, it's a lie. How much money did that team generate over the past ten seasons? They LOST millions.
@peterlee468210 ай бұрын
@1:45 Actually, the Flames first year was a big success. Their total of 65 points was the best of the post 1967 expansion teams for many years.
@YaoboyProd2K154 ай бұрын
Both Winnipeg & Calgary are thankful from Atlanta, relocation saved these 2 franchises that once called home.
@BigJeffeDaGoat10 ай бұрын
audio goes crazy
@PenguinNote676 ай бұрын
If you're still here I got a new microphone a few months ago
@fantasticvoyage2627 ай бұрын
Now I'm going to have to do more research about the mascot stealing the zamboni.
@PenguinNote677 ай бұрын
There are 3 videos and some articles
@rileykazama314510 ай бұрын
With the right ownership Atlanta can work
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
With the right ownership Tokyo can work
@rileykazama314510 ай бұрын
@@sampicano if Tokyo got a Nhl team I would be surprised
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
@@rileykazama3145 So would Atlanta...it would destroy the struggling Hawks fanbase
@cameronvandevelde41867 ай бұрын
100% agree!
@clintonjones57993 ай бұрын
Atlanta is also a lot different then when the Thrashers were here. There’s a lot more people there too and hockey in Georgia has grown significantly in the past few years.
@VolBill9910 ай бұрын
I remember a commercial for my local hockey where the mascot streak at a college football stadium
@Everything-sz7oc10 ай бұрын
I hope you get big someday!😀🚀
@Baqon422 ай бұрын
We still have the Gladiators, but they're ECHL. Also, we used to have the Knights, but they were IHL.
@CharlieND10 ай бұрын
The Atlanta faithful really got screwed over by bad ownership. People think Atlanta can't support NHL hockey and that simply isn't true. The city has a lot going for it and the fact that they lost two teams is disappointing.
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
Atlanta Thrashers attendances: 2011 - 28th/30 teams in NHL attendance (13,469) 2010 - 28th/30 teams in NHL attendance (13,607) 2009 - 29th/30 teams in NHL attendance (14,626) 2008 - 22nd/30 teams in NHL attendance (15,831) 2007 - 21st/30 teams in NHL attendance (16,240) 2007 was the second best year for Atlanta, it was good enough for 21st in the NHL...out of 30 teams.... The best season was the first for attendance, then it went downhill after the first year. "Bad Ownership" "Bad Ownership" "Bad Ownership" "Bad Ownership" "Bad Ownership" That's why 5.5 million people in the greater Atlanta area couldn't get in their cars and buy season tickets. Ownership. That's why they lost 26 million a year....ownership was preventing fans from buying tickets, and jerseys, and merchandise, and coming into games and buying tickets. Ownership would put road blocks up on game days so fans couldn't drive to the arena. It wasn't that Atlanta a city with 5.5 million people, has no hockey culture, and therefore couldn't average more than 14 thousand people per game. Give your head a shake. The ownership was bad. Also the fans were ABSENT. Nonexistent. Two things can be true. Ownership didn't exist in a vacuum, they had no fans to support them! Millions of people not going to games! It was the worst franchise in the history of the NHL, and you want to fail a third time? Never Atlanta. #NeverAtlanta
@CharlieND10 ай бұрын
@@sampicano I'm not reading that essay lil bro
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
@@CharlieND "I can't read that essay lil bro." - CharlieND Illiteracy is no joke. Imagine it's 2023, and you struggle with reading comprehension. #adultilliteracy
@CharlieND10 ай бұрын
@@sampicano at least I don't like my own comments
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
@@CharlieND But you agree to the adult illiteracy. That's for sure.
@dennisjordan49523 ай бұрын
The thrashers did have bad attendance.they did pretty well for a 500 club.the ownership screwed the fans over
@ltaldworth12946 ай бұрын
Move the Coyotes to Atlanta and this wrong will be righted.
@cameronvandevelde41865 ай бұрын
heck no, move the yotes to Salt Lake City and Atlanta will get an expansion team!
@iplayfhorn7 ай бұрын
Don Waddell was the worst excuse for a GM ever. He passed on players early on who could have laid a good foundation for the future, and instead chose guys who stayed on the DL more than they did on the ice (they chose Damian Rhodes over Ron Hextall, and ended up playing “musical goaltenders” for three or four years).
@PenguinNote677 ай бұрын
But how much of that was Atlanta Spirit not paying attention to what Waddell was doing?
@iplayfhorn7 ай бұрын
@@PenguinNote67 Waddell was lousy from the get-go, even before AS took the reins. There were several players he passed over in the expansion draft (such as the aforementioned Ron Hextall), who could have formed a strong base on which to build. I think everyone was scratching their heads over it. The new owners were content to let the Thrashers die on the vine while they were fighting over the Hawks. The real drop in attendance came after they pretty much admitted that they deliberately treated the Thrashers like the red-haired stepchild, and had been trying to dump them for years.
@anthonyrivera473510 ай бұрын
As a Blackhawks fan, I totally hate! the Winnipeg Jets because they left Atlanta😢
@willp.812010 ай бұрын
Very few Thrashers fans support the Winnipeg Jets. The way many of the people of Winnipeg spoke of Atlanta fans was appalling.
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
Very few Thrashers fans support the Winnipeg Jets. LOL Very few Thrashers fan A) exist B) supported the Atlanta Thrashers
@iplayfhorn7 ай бұрын
@@sampicano You don’t live here, so how the hell do you know?
@iplayfhorn7 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 People like to dump on Atlanta regardless of the subject. I think Thrashers fans were pretty much done with them after they left, sort of like the Flames fans after they went to Calgary. I was a Leafs fan before, during and after, so my allegiance went back to them.
@sampicano7 ай бұрын
@@iplayfhorn NOT REGARDLESS OF THE SUBJECT! Atlanta has: 1) AMAZING SOCCER CULTURE 2) GREAT WEATHER AND GOLF 3) MILLIONS OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE AND GREAT PLACES TO EAT 4) BEAUTIFUL WOMEN 5) ATLANTA LOVES BASEBALL TOO 6) THAT FUTURAMA EPISODE WAS HILARIOUS AND DEAD ON But Atlanta was a terrible hockey market - the worst franchise in NHL history.
@CJRealHoops110 ай бұрын
Don't move the Coyotes to Kansas! Salt Lake City is a much better hockey town and deserves a team!
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
SLC would be he second smallest US market in the NHL after Buffalo....not a great spot (definitely DO NOT deserve a team) I think you are thinking of the Olympics. They deserve an Olympics lol The hockey registration in Utah is 0.12%...1 out of every 833 people. It's some of the lowest numbers in the country, they don't deserve anything. In think you meant Wisconsin.
@jab12896 ай бұрын
@@sampicano Milwaukee should have a team, but the owners of the Blackhawks always seemed to fight that.
@stadiumarena5891.8 ай бұрын
Don Waddell the Head Coach And General Manager he Wants a New Player Patrick Kane before Ilya Kovalchuk and Marian Hossa is Trade to New Jersey Devils and Pittsburgh Penguins
@PenguinNote678 ай бұрын
Kinda late for that
@dstlscards10 ай бұрын
If you improve your mic quality these videos will be really good
@dstlscards10 ай бұрын
also, intro is to long, cut it to 5 seconds max
@PenguinNote6710 ай бұрын
I'm working on it
@RLieutnant_6110 ай бұрын
I think the name Thrashers should be recycled in a new franchise if there is a relocation or expansion in the league, but I still think the Thrashers logo is horrible, I wanted to suggest some video themes if possible.
@PenguinNote6710 ай бұрын
I agreed with reusing the Thrashers, but the logo is cool. Maybe fix the eye and mouth. And if you have ideas for videos, shoot them down below
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
@@PenguinNote67 Do one on the biggest NHL failures. Cleveland Barons. Arizona Coyotes. Atlanta Thrashers/Atlanta Flames.
@wigsy993 ай бұрын
Cities in the southern US without sizeable populations of Canadians or people from the northern US esp the Northeast will have trouble attracting fans
@henryca03Ай бұрын
Sun Belt cities like Atlanta, Houston, and Phoenix have a sizable Canadian snowbird population, either temporary or permanent; the issue is that they support their old teams rather than the team in their new home.
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
Reasons why Atlanta is the worst hockey market: - Atlanta Thrashers relocated (2011) - Atlanta Flames relocated (1980) - Hockey enrollment in Georgia is 0.02% (2021-2022) - 1 out of every 500 people plays hockey - Hockey in Atlanta did not grow the game, there are NO NHL players from Georgia currently (6.1 million people and not one NHL player, they had an NHL team for 19 years and have ZERO players to show for it) - by comparison Nova Scotia has a population of 969,383 people and has 26 NHL players this season, because that is a real hockey market . - Atlanta Hawks struggle with attendance (18th out of 30 teams) and basketball is more popular than hockey in Atlanta hahaha - The Atlanta Thrashers and Flames attendances were BAD....do not let anyone lie to you and tell you otherwise 2011 - 28th/30 teams in NHL attendance (13,469) 2010 - 28th/30 teams in NHL attendance (13,607) 2009 - 29th/30 teams in NHL attendance (14,626) 2008 - 22nd/30 teams in NHL attendance (15,831) 2007 - 21st/30 teams in NHL attendance (16,240) The inaugural season was the best attended season, it is NEVER a good sign when your first year is the most successful. 2007 was the Thrashers SECOND best season ever in attendance with a truly pathetic 16,240....and only good enough for 21st in the NHL that year. 2007 was also Atlanta's most successful year losing in the Eastern Conference Quarter Finals. So Atlanta Thrashers BEST attended season (16,240) would be 26th in today's NHL...and was only good enough for 21st in the NHL in 2007. Nothing about Atlanta says "success story" - Atlanta Gladiators average 4,696 per game in the ECHL (Gas South Arena capacity is 11,355 for hockey) so they can't even average 50% capacity - 41.3%. - Atlanta's ONLY benefit is the population size (6.1 million in 2020). But by that metric Houston (7.1 million in 2020) is a better option, and hasn't already failed twice before." - Atlanta Thrashers Valuations: 2010 - Atlanta Thrashers - $135 million (5.5 million population) second lowest value in NHL ......then they moved to Winnipeg.... 2011 - Winnipeg Jets - $164 million (731,000 population) - gained $30 million USD in one season 2012 - Winnipeg Jets $200 million (741,000 population) - gained another $35 million USD in the second season So....a city with only 700 thousand people, spending Canadian currency did FAR better than the failing pathetic Atlanta Thrashers ever did. According to "Forbes Business of Hockey". Atlanta Thrashers moved to Winnipeg - a city with 5 million less people, a city paying for games in Canadian currency and the team still increased by 50% valuation over a two year span. Atlanta is a basketball city, that doesn't even support the Hawks. Never Atlanta. #NeverAtlanta
@drayiii98010 ай бұрын
Atlanta Spirit tanked the Thrashers with their incompetence. Read more into that instead of posting useless stats that have nothing to do with why they moved. This video only tells fraction of how they actually failed.
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
@@drayiii980 And ignoring the Flames moving only tells a fraction of how they actually failed. $26 million a year in lost revenue From 2005 to 2010 130 million in loses for a team valued at only 135 million Everybody knows the Atlanta Spirit group put up road blocks to prevent fans from attending games, and then smashed ATM's in the city so no Thrashers fan could buy merchandise. Everybody knows that's why the Flames (1972-1980) and the Thrashers (1999-2010) bled money. It was the ATM smashing. Everybody knows Atlanta Spirit would not sell jerseys to fans. It was all their fault! It was 100% Atlanta Spirit's fault, and 0% on the lack of hockey fans in Atlanta 0.02% hockey registration - 1 out of 500 people has nothing to do with it, and 0 NHL players from the state of Georgia...in 19 years of having a NHL team....and 0 growth has nothing to do with the lack of fans. Quick question, how come nobody supports the Atlanta Gladiators???? 41.3% capacity in the ECHL..... I must be only telling a fraction of how hockey failed over and over and over and over in Atlanta
@sampicano10 ай бұрын
@@drayiii980 cry about it everyone hated Atlanta and the rest of the league don't want them cry some more
@CharlieND10 ай бұрын
bro wrote an essay in the comments 💀
@ozarkharshnoisescene6 ай бұрын
who from Atlanta hurt you?
@ronpeacock993910 ай бұрын
Sadly, I’m not sure the NHL is even considering Atlanta… I think Quebec is higher on their list.. and they are next to the bottom.
@PenguinNote6710 ай бұрын
I'm pretty the NHL would look at both of them as Eastern cities
@ronpeacock993910 ай бұрын
@@PenguinNote67 I sure hope so… if not, they need geography lessons
@prayingpat62546 ай бұрын
Well, months later, you’d be surprised. Atlanta is a candidate city for the next expansion while Quebec City still needs to work things out in order to also join the 6 other location sites. It’s kinda crazy.
@ronpeacock99396 ай бұрын
@@prayingpat6254 I think we all can agree, Until the Coyotes situation if fixed… expansion is not even on the table.. Atlanta and Quebec face uphill battles… that much is clear.. but until the Yotes have a new arena on the way.. they will leave those places for relocation if needed.
@prayingpat62546 ай бұрын
@@ronpeacock9939 Yeah that’s probably why Bettman has been really feed up with Arizona lately. We shall see what’s up next