This is exactly why Reverend Wright said "God damn America" during Obama's first run for Office. The Christian right of America all, but crucified him for it.

Yes, and it's possibly the height of self-centeredness to think a little foreign vacay should do one nicely. Repent yourself, and teach the holy unified Christian faith.

All countries are like Babylon.

@@davidlafleche1142 Historically, only a handful have been what we would call empires. A lot of Americans feel proud that we are the dominant military and economic force in the world.

I have no problem with thinking of the All Seeing Eye as Babylon, but don't go quoting the Founding Fathers as your defense.

STAY STRONG!!! 💪🏼💯🙏🏾 -1 Peter 4:12&13

Brother, preach the Gospel. Preach it better than the Baptist hypocrites. Preach it better than the Pharisees. Cast out devils, heal the sick. Do the word of God. and they will come. Neither left nor right is of God, but both are hands of the same beast.

This video is so disgustingly full of lies and misrepresentations. Not a single Christian conservative supports racism, sexism or xenophobia. What a joke. Stop projecting your Democrat Party values of slavery onto everyone else, and stop pretending you're the arbiter of truth when it comes to Christianity. YOU didn't end slavery. WE did. YOU manipulate the Bible and Scripture to your own ends. WE do not. Give me a break. YOU tell one side of American history. WE acknowledge the problems but don't define America by them. We were founded by Christians and espoused the values for a long, long time whether you like it or not.

The American founding fathers deemed *ALL* religions unfit for modern governance. _“The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or Mohammedan Nation.”_ *- John Adams* (American statesman, attorney, diplomat, writer, Founding Father and 2nd president) The *1st Amendment's Establishment Clause* prohibits the government from making any law, _“respecting an establishment of religion.”_ This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion. *Constitution Article VI Supreme Law - Clause 3 Oaths of Office* _"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; _*_but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."_* This means nobody is ever required to swear on the Bible, or any other religious book for an oath of office. They may choose a religious book, but none is required. _“...the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."_ *-Treaty of Tripoli - June 7, 1797. Signed by President John Adams & Ratified UNANIMOUSLY, by the United States June 10, 1797* ....only a few times in history the Senate unanimously agreed on anything. _“This would be the best of all possible Worlds, if there were no Religion in it”_ *-Letter From John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 19 April 1817* _"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."_ *-Letter from Thomas Jefferson to John Adams 11 April 1823)* _"The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason."_ *-Benjamin Franklin* (Poor Richard's Almanack) _“The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion....and as this is the case with Christian theology, it is therefore the study of nothing.”_ *― Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason (1794)*

@@xjarheadjohnson Yes, sort of. John Adams is only speaking for himself. As is Jefferson. Both were Unitarians. Paine was clearly and vociferously anti-Christian. Franklin was sympathetic, but not a believer in what they called "revealed religion." There were only two that were, Hamilton and Jay. However, it would be the height of disingenuousness to suggest that America is as much founded on Islam and Christianity. That is simply not the case. Adams liked to spout off and be controversial. He wasn't handsome like Jefferson. Christianity infused the Colonies. That part is history too. But by the time of the 1760s the revivals of the Methodist period had died down and worldliness had set in. The lack of unity amongst Christian groups was antithetical to the brotherly visions of Freemasonry. French enlightened ideas, as well as Scottish rationalism, were popular. Both of these schools came out of long decades of religious war in their own countries. But thank you for blowing the lid off the idea that the Founders were Christians. They simply weren't (except for the 2 mentioned). Read their writings! However, read also the writings of Augustine, Aquinas, and Abelard. Read the giants of the faith, the little ones, the Bible. You will not be held up by Jefferson and Adams.

I left my church of 24 years in 2020. I don't wish that experience on anyone.

It's not your church. It's his. You are part of the bride or not. It's your choice. But you can't divide her.

yes

Although I don't think she was trying to pull a No True Scotsman defense here, I wholly agree that, regardless of the sincerity or accuracy of their faith, we are responsible for them. Those outside the church have no means of distinguishing between us and them. We all (reasonably) look the same in their eyes. How else are they supposed to figure out who the Real Slim Sh.. I mean, Christian is supposed to be? And if we don't counter them, they will continue to poison the younger generation against the Church, Jesus, and the Gospel.

The American founding fathers deemed *ALL* religions unfit for modern governance. _“The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or Mohammedan Nation.”_ *- John Adams* (American statesman, attorney, diplomat, writer, Founding Father and 2nd president) The *1st Amendment's Establishment Clause* prohibits the government from making any law, _“respecting an establishment of religion.”_ This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion. *Constitution Article VI Supreme Law - Clause 3 Oaths of Office* _"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; _*_but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."_* This means nobody is ever required to swear on the Bible, or any other religious book for an oath of office. They may choose a religious book, but none is required. _“...the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."_ *-Treaty of Tripoli - June 7, 1797. Signed by President John Adams & Ratified UNANIMOUSLY, by the United States June 10, 1797* ....only a few times in history the Senate unanimously agreed on anything. _“This would be the best of all possible Worlds, if there were no Religion in it”_ *-Letter From John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 19 April 1817* _"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."_ *-Letter from Thomas Jefferson to John Adams 11 April 1823)* _"The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason."_ *-Benjamin Franklin* (Poor Richard's Almanack) _“The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion....and as this is the case with Christian theology, it is therefore the study of nothing.”_ *― Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason (1794)*

Good, now connect it to English Calvinism.

Great game! And yes, I picked up on those themes too, which surprised me greatly. That game was ahead of its time in many ways.

I had to look it up X'D

But wouldn't that really be Antarctica?

@@MelanieNLee If Jesus meant us to "witness" to the penguins then yes you would be right 😁

@@alvinjohnson773 Actually, I heard that there were Native Antarcticans--probably related to Native South Americans--on the continent when White people first arrived. However, the Native people were susceptible to White people's diseases, having no immunity, and they all died off.

I'm reading internet sources that say that Antarctica never had a native human population. However, they also say that Maori and/or Polynesians discovered the continent some 1,000 years before Europeans arrived there.

All religion is internal and universal to mankind in so many ways, as an impetus, in archetypes, in social structures and celebratory rites, in values and counter values, laws, customs and countless hard to name things. All of that is natural, "carnal" subject to error, even demonic error, as the scriptures attest.

German citizens that supported the Nazi party probably didn't identify as Nazis either. At a certain point, actions need to be given more weight than self identification when it comes to political analysis.

Keep in mind that this is a promo for a book. What seems imprecise in the video may be fleshed out in the book.

I was not around in WWII, but my understanding is that lots of Germans (including almost the entire German government) indeed identified loudly and proudly as Nazis. They might have disagreed about what Nazism meant, whether the tenets of the Nazi party were good or bad, etc., but I do not think there is any dispute that the Nazis were a real political party, operating openly under that name. There is nothing similar for "Christian Nationalism," which as best I can tell is deployed as kind of an all-purpose insult rather than a neutral descriptive label. It would be like if Christians with conservative politics looked at those who invoke their Christian beliefs as a predicate for supporting liberal or leftist policy goals (for example, some of the contributors to the Holy Post), and consistently called them "Marxist Christianists" or something along those lines. It might be a clever insult to complain about "Marxist Christianists," but it would not be as though there was some readily identifiable political movement within Christianity that had embraced and was operating under that label.

@@abepafford1615 Respectfully, I disagree that there is nothing comparable to the Nazi party here. Consider what any political movement looks like in its nascent phase. Arguably, they all begin as disparate vocal minorities with enough overlap in their ideas to be willing to join forces, or at least with enough “useful idiots” to strengthen their numbers. I do recognize that labels are weaponized- or sometimes thoughtlessly misused- in our political discourse. I believe it would be a mistake to say CN is merely a slur when a significant number of people refer to THEMSELVES as Christian Nationalists, not just random citizens, but prominent, influential voices in multiple spheres of society. To be sure, there are different groups, and they haggle over particulars, but they are actively organizing, and they do embrace the label. Obviously, Christians should not draw attention to CN to gin up fear; we know God is ultimately in control. I do believe we have a responsibility to guard against any movement we know will cause oppression, especially one attaching itself to the name of Christ.

@@abepafford1615 I wasn't around for WW2 either. Certainly the actual Nazi politicians identified as Nazis. It was the name of their political party. A more useful analysis would be how the German citizens identified and why. I'm sure there were some who were on board with the Nazi agenda, but I'm also sure that many weren't. The issue here is that it took years for the Nazis to enact their "final solution". They didn't start by building death camps and committing genocide. They started with years of scapegoating and propaganda. In addition to that, the horrors of the Holocaust took years to be fully discovered, and even longer for it to be accepted and taught within Germany (to be clear, they've renounced it and taken much greater steps to learn from their history and move on than many others have, including America). So, the average German citizen, even if they had been or were supportive of the Nazi party, wasn't necessarily informed of the extent of the evil of their political program and activities.

Pretty sure they don't choose which ads play.

@@makejesusgreatagain7220 I am sure they did not choose that particular ad. But there generally are settings on ad systems which allow you to opt out of certain categories of ads. This may have been oddly classified, for instance as a journalism or newspaper ad and so snuck by their current filters of what ads to show. But I am posting about it, because it may be that Holy Post can tweek their current ad settings to get rid of it. If they can, they should because even if they lose a few dollars, not passing on propaganda through youtube ads is a good thing.

@@adamrshields absolutely. I use Premium, so I never know which ads are being used. Keep up the good work.

@@adamrshields The algorithm assumes that most viewers of Christian content are right wing zealots. It was taught that by the viewing habits of Christians. That's on us.

Because they make christian content the algorithm automatically puts that with any right wing content

Baptists (you're correct to point to Roger Williams) and Quakers were arguably Puritans. You may make a distinction between 1. Puritans: Those who desired to purify the Church of England further than Elizabeth, Cranmer, King James et al had. 2. Separatists: Those who figured the only answer was to split with the Church of England There's so many labels to choose from and all of them are potentially misleading, having lots of cross over, blurry boundaries and colloquial usages: 1. Independents/Congregationalists 2. Non-conformists/Presbyterians 3. Roundheads 4. Pilgrims 5. Calvinists 6. Reformed 7. Evangelical 8. Radicals 10. Low Church etc. Separation of church and state was in fact a Baptist value that was picked up, along with believer's baptism, from Anabaptists.

EXACTLY!!! 👏👏👏

I mean they know what they are doing. They wouldn't care.

YES 🙌🏽

Here's the description I went with: This is a good video, though it also has a glaring problem. It's an excellent reminder that scripture (and the righteousness it calls us to, and the evils it condemns) cuts both ways. We need to be willing to see and repent of the past and present sins of our own tribe, as well as praise the virtues of our perceived enemies through biblically informed lenses, with biblically informed priorities. We must not use scripture as a shield or a bludgeon. The problem with the video is that it doesn't properly introduce or define the term "Christian Nationalism", which it assumes its audience to already been familiar with, and to condemn. The video material is taken from a book, and probably the book does a better job providing the necessary context, but attempting to watch it from the perspective of someone unfamiliar with the term, or seeped in the cultural soup of conservative politics, it's extremely jarring, and might be more likely to elicit a knee-jerk defensive rejection than thoughtfulness. So be warned.

​@@timzwicker start by defining nationalism. Christian Nationalism is that with a coat of paint.

I am convinced you can't understand Christianity through "American" eyes. Because our culture is so relatively isolated from the rest of the world, we live in a religious echo-chamber.