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I assume it taint about the $10 prize but the bragging right winning a small tournament

Which is worse. Cause like "I won a inschool tournament" Like cool? I guess? @@geymseksion

game is game. but agreed its dumb as hell

SICK BURN.

10 bucks is a 10 bucks!

I'd do it for 5

Lol

​@@PerumNagajayai mean they be costing like 20 for a week key

Game Is game 😂😂

I was going to bring this up like. Ok yes exploits that grant you with advantage is like, yeah doubtful, BUT if you have the chance you'll do it and ngl i would too!! so not the whole blame on them but on the development like. If it lets me put the cam there for example I think is right to use!

​@@geo4716funny cos riot told them they cant do that specifically. Like there a picture book with not to do that. Also op you get it wrong. Riot is fixing more bug for player more than pro player cos if not book of exploit wouldnt exist.

The funny and baffling thing is, they have a 40 pages book about every exploit in every map. THEY know about them, just don't want to fix them, then they force people to read their book. This company is just trash

punishing for use of exploits is the dumbest thing in esports, the only one who can know the itentions of a dev is the dev himself, there are many techniques that where born by players and were never intended to be used the way they are, using an unknow exploit in a tournament is just part of the player knolegde of a map/game

It takes time to review, develop and test these changes. And, of course tournament happens before bug patches. That's why there was a rule placed to avoid exploiting these bugs. An accidental placement of these exploits just shows a memory that the player plays those "normally" in ranked games, normal or scrims.

Ahh yes paying $50 to win $10 in your school tournament

It's because they might know or be in contact with people who are also regularly involved in such activities and still manage to evade the riot games anticheat system.

Because they can get away with it. They just make stupid mistakes and get caught. Just look at the CS:GO cheating scandals. Granted, the anti-cheat is worse by a lot, but people were able to cheat on LANs and mostly get away with it.

I dont think the g2 comms one was bad, The coach was celebrating the win AFTER he got the kills, The round was over anyways, all he had to do was defuse, no way the game restricts their pro players to having 0 hype mid tournament, plus whats a coach gonna do in that situation? HEs spectacting a POV he only knows what the player sees? Kinda BS that he got in trouble for that

Dont forget about survivor bias.

You should look that up but with Cops.

This is insane. RIOT clearly know about these exploits, and they decide to make coaches read 40 pages of rules instead of just FIXING THEM

I don't get it. This is a video game, aka software. Are these exploits impossible to fix or does Riot not have software engineers? If they can come up with such a long list of known exploits in the rules they should be able to fix them in the game as well. Having the game programmed in one way and then saying people can't use it seems crazy to me. Learning a game is hard enough. Learning a game and then having to unlearn it (without the game telling you what is or isn't an exploit) is way more annoying.

@@BrotherCheng It comes down to 2 things. 1: Fixing bugs doesn't make money, but does cost money, as a company it's a low priority for this reason. 2: Some bugs can be genuinely difficult to fix. Take for example the rubbish on Bind's hookah, you don't want the rubbish to have collision as that would mess with people's aim. If it doesn't have collision then people can place things inside of it. Riot after around 1-2 years eventually made the rubbish solid to utility, but nonsolid to players, which works perfectly, but it is likely marginally more work on map makers' behalf and we get into point 1.

@@16jms dev/software engineer here. It comes down to cost and complexity in coding. I wish I could say "just fix this/that" but in reality coding isn't like that. Although I've never worked directly with game engines, I've been told that they're more complex than just regular "languages" as you have to worry about so many different elements when it comes to developing games both coding and in a virtual space. Cost vs time is another big factor. Why waste so much money on fixing such a minor thing when you can literally just give out a handbook to HOPE that players won't break those rules. Yes I understand, it is frustrating that all of this is due to poor developing/coding however it is also on the players' part to respect the rules.

but riot isn't some rookie company that still trying to find its way in the gaming industry, right? it's a big company with a big budget + this is a worldwide tournaments we're talking about here, i's not local or just an online friendly tournament, this is global competitions with money on stake, so fixing these bugs before any major tournament should be a priority @@SilencePandaa

if I'm hosting a tournament and I tell you something is cheating then it is cheating no matter what lol. If I host a valorant tournament and I tell you that if jett players use their smokes it counts as cheating, then it is cheating no matter what lol. this isnt about whether riot fixes the bugs or not, its simply about following the rules and not doing what you are told not to do. they can have 100 bugs in a map but if they say you cant use them, then you cant use them, simple as that.

@@AM-jc3wdIf someone gave you 40 pages worth of spots and exploits would you memorize them all? If you then had to explain every single one of them to 5 different players and make sure THEY memorize every single one of them, would you be able to do that? Along with the pressure of being in an international level game and competing for tens of thousands of dollars. Yep. Seems simple doesn't it? It's completely on Riot. And don't even get me started on the second clip. The KJ didn't even use the molly.

@@mpgodjr those are things that you are agreeing to do when you enter the competition lol it’s entirely on the teams. If they can’t do that then don’t enter the tournaments, its that simple. Bro wants the teams to be spoon fed at this point 😭😭

@@AM-jc3wdnah that cam was normal af. How are 1 way smokes allowed but not a cam that is able to be placed in a spot that can be gotten to legitly? Riot should fix their textures instead of telling teams how to play.

@@Infernos94 its their rules lol they choose what is allowed and what is not, if you don’t like it then don’t play in their tournaments and make your own lol

It probably takes longer to write the rulebook than to fix the bugs... but Riot is just really inconsistent with their ruling and it is frustrating.

for the kj icebox molly yes, the cypher cam you are completely wrong. It was a bug with how valorant loads textures, from the playable area (where players can move around in) the awning had no gap between it and the building, but from the unplayable area (cypher cam) the texture didnt load for etiher part of the awning or part of the building, allowing the cam to see through it. This has to do with resource management and nothing to do with 3D objects in the sense you are referring to

@@kingderpington6082 I’m not sure if you’re familiar with textures and objects or even 3D world, and how they work! We have different types of texturing, one is alpha textures, which localised textures invisibility, so you can see through an object masking a projected picture of a texture! For example, tree branches in games like pubg, those branches and leafs aren’t different objects, they’re pictures of branches and leafs projecting via an alpha channel on a solid plane, that’s why when you land on a tree on those games, it doesn’t feel like you landed on branches, or even when you shoot them, bullets don’t go through tree branches/leafs… so, I assuming, they’re using something like that there in breeze… however, loading textures doesn’t really have anything to do with problems like that (if you use a diffuse channel) since 3D objects are solid, if a texture doesn’t load properly, it shouldn’t give a see through, it gives you a solid object with no texture on it! Like a cube, or plane! Again I was responding to lil bro “Tarik” which said that it’s hard to fix maybe, which it isn’t! And maybe, maybe you are right, however, game runs in unreal engine, if textures don’t load as they suppose to, it’s the engine problem! But you might be right, you might know something that I have no clue about!

riot issa small indie company, they dont have the money nor the capacity to fix such a huuuuge bug ;)) @@alphatwink

@@kingderpington6082 There isn't any need for that awning in the first place. Do you have any idea how easy it is to remove it?

Womp womp

it's clearly the developers fault for not fixing that "known" bug and it making it into the official tournaments lmao... Such crybaby of a community.

@@user-tb2vc2sl1q womp womp should be on developers imo. Gladly I don't play sh*t, but I'm wondering how many unfixed bugs are they "fixing" by rules

@@_zaiinu womp womp

womp womp

But it is in a competitive setting where it is expected that individuals act with at least some degree of integrity and not try to do anything that is unbeatable.

but its a tournament with money on the line, u are expected to act with integrity. In an online match u can use an exploit all u want, most of the time u wont get banned. this is a tournament with rules, and if they tell u to not do something, u should be smart enough not to do it. It is not always riots fault. Although if they ban someone in an online game for using it I think ur argument applies.

They give them warning before every match so no they already do.

Maybe they should fix their game then if it's so serious. Doesn't seem like adding some sorta barrier to these out of bounds areas would be too hard@@edwardlu3485

I agree they took the laziest path by throwing the blame onto the players instead of fixing it

He probably already had it and thought to himself "why not use it" and might give him chance to flex before the world

I've seen the pricing of 2 cheats before - yes, we're talking about a lot more for even 30d of access. This was probably about flexing and not the money

thats what i was going to say! like homeboy actively comms during the match and helped his team. the other we aren't 100% sure but only celebrated at the end of a round. like if he didn't help the match not such a big deal unlike steele or whatever his dumb name is

@gidgettv1591 Imo celebrating with your team isn't cheating, he didn't give them any info, just screamed with them on comms. Meanwhile, T1 actively screaming help sewers 😂

@@DioBrando-yc5ry some of them get it for free, and some of them buy it with their parents' money

It's why I hated seeing Brazilians in Free to Play games. There was a strong chance that they were in a net cafe with cheats already preloaded into it.

@@MoleculeXmolecule sadly, i very much agree with you

provavelmente o cara do outro lado era bom e vcs tavam chorando kkkkkkkk acontece bastante também, principalmente no lol elo, que deve ser o caso

@@sonwayd5540 eu sou ruim mesmo kkkkkkk mas a partida terminou várias vezes abruptamente por causa dessas merdas. E olha que eu nunca joguei as mais sérias (porque sou ruim demais pra isso kkkkkkkkkkkk)

How did they go for 7 rounds without noticing the exploit?

@@kaiba8954 Its Riot doing Riot things. They even had "experts" on site watching the game to prevent cheats and exploits. Everybody, including the experts, saw the camera being used. No one, not even the experts, realized it was exploit. It was only announced after the game.

Yeah, its kind of insulting how Nomsenpai only gets a 36 month ban when there's undeniable evidence but there's been people perma banned when they weren't even cheating just because they had a driver or software that wasn't whitelisted by Vanguard.

people get banned by anticheat wrongly though

Yup

best part is the 6 experts and referees they had watching the game along with 8 casters in various langugages along with 5 players and 4 coaches of the opposite team that all missed the exploit

Steel wasnt a cheater tho, he just purposefully lost a match. Thats like the opposite of cheating lol

IKR!! if the game allows it, it should be okay!!

@@felixchiang But it's a professional tournament, meaning there will and should be rules and regulations to give both teams an equal chance of winning, that means taking down exploits

@@m31i0n7 What about the negative bugs that happen on occasion that hurt the player playing that champ? There were cases at least in LoL where such bugs happened and hurt a specific player or team and riot just acknowledged the game as is. If one doesn't matter the other shouldn't matter either or riot should just fix them or ban the champions affected in general. It's on riot to keep things reasonable not on the players, at least in the cases where the games are at fault.

Because riot already told them they cant do that? You saying that like fixing bug is freaking easy which I guess is normal for consumer to asume. Most think you could just throw money and it would be fixed.

If the bug was new, sure. But this and so much more bugs have been around for so long that it's stupid to think that they could not fix it. Remember that riot games isn't a small indie game, they are a massive video game company with multiple offices around the globe. It's not as if they handle 200 fucking game titles

@@nabkill0134riot can tell they on the exact time that they used one and do a chronobrack to. just let it pass and punish the people after the game have no sense

@@nabkill0134 i dont know man, they said the bug is just from texture colors being similar, sounds like a super easy fix to me

​@@nabkill0134 Well, yes, that's generally how it works. They have the money but not the incentive so instead they create infractions for using, intentional or not, the bugs in the game. If this was 15-20 years ago, strategies & counter-strategies would be developed around these bugs and a savvy map creator would decompile, fix and make the maps have even better visual clarity for the competitive scene. This is exactly what happened with Team Fortress, Counter-Strike and Quake competitive scenes and they did it *for free*. Unless the issue is very egregious and provides an unfair advantage, like the infamous Olof spot on an old iteration of Overpass in CSGO, everything else should be fair game.

why does this have 18 likes

@@Mark-xk3hh Because they're right, players shouldn't be penalized because Riot is too lazy to fix bugs.

@@Mark-xk3hh Riot owns the software. It's not like they don't have the ability to patch such "exploits" out. Having the software work one way and then having a giant set of rules about what is not ok to use is massively confusing, and someone can simply have misremembered what is or isn't an exploit. Having the ability to keep the entire list of banned exploits in your head isn't a skill I want to see in competitive video games.

@@BrotherCheng not only were the exploits explicitly stated in the rules for each tournament, how does one "misremember" that an unbreakable kj molly or cypher cam is not an exploit? If you're in the most prestigious tournament of the entire game and you use obvious exploits like that, you know exactly what you're doing. You can't argue it's "Riot's fault for not instantly patching it" when its common sense to not literally cheat in a tournament especially when its banned in the tournament rules LMAO

@@Vipa567 you guys have some really dumb and broken moral compasses. if you know youre cheating, you know youre cheating. why try to blame someone else for your malicious actions? play with fire, get burned. you deserve whatever you get if you're going to use obvious exploits, its not that difficult

whats funny is in my language malibu means literally "cheater" , what a coincidence.

And they say we target the so called "minority community" 😂

Its just identity problem but the skill or gameplay is not hack right?

@@maman7212 huh? I don't really understand what you are saying, but the cheating is terrible. I'm mainly speaking on whatever excuse Malibu is using. It only causes further denigration of the trans community she is supposedly a part of.

@@maman7212 it's not id issue it's cheating issue & id issue

@@alexmark6580 obviously trans is a loophole for men to compete with women as they are too inferior to compete with real men

It all comes to Riot for not fixing the bug and instead create a 40 page rule book about what cannot be done during the tournament.

They have a special rule book with exploits taht are prohibited. Not all exploits are disallowed. Cypher cam can spot enemies, but while sypher usus, it becomes visible while not using its hidden in invis), but it was placed that way,so ene,y team couldnt see it at all. And this is know place and is ruled out in the book.

you say "exploit" as if it not and exploit when it clearly is an exploit. ya riot should fix it, also PRO players and put on a high expectation, if you can't read the rules for X amount of money then don't play. exploiting is cheating, simple as that. sorry that your dense brain can comprehend that. feel bad for you kiddo

lol

interesting,, may i see the video of the whole game ?

Their software isn't infallible and they directly challenged the hacker community by announcing that their anti-cheat was impenetrable. No one should be surprised that it was.

there are very few cheaters. The livestreams I've seen were all fake (obv. prerecorded and spliced together), the 2 times I encountered a cheater they were banned before the match ended. And, people are going to extreme lengths to cheat in Valorant. 2 Methods I'm aware of (idk 'bout the 2024 state, I don't cheats, I read about it because the tech is interesting): - A cheat that runs at ring 0 (kernel level). - The other is DMA (DirectMemoryAccess), using a device to tamper with memory contents while the game is running, the cheat running on a 2nd PC. At this point, just sell your PC and go outside, jesus christ.

@@itsTyrion hahaha fan boy

@@RealTaIk Are you intentionally stupid?

it's expected that adults are usually smart enough not to break the rules in front of an audience while being recorded. They're not six year olds

Or maybe you're just bad? 20$ for cheats is a lot in India

Then why not work for riot if its that easy..lol do you know a thing or 2 about programming? Lol

It would still take a while to fix every little map bug they do fix it but they can't all the tiime

Right? That cypher cam one is so baffling to me. It's literally a map texture bug and riot DQ'd VK because their game was made poorly, like man fix your game.

@@rjjabile4115 I forgot that moving a box and removing textures is programming, but go on since you know so much about 3D animation, clown

@@AchiIIIiesit is. It’s not like if you move a box everything will be okay. That box has it’s own hitbox that’s why when you throw something on it, that thing will bounce. Now if you remove it, the wall on that rafters should also have it’s own hitbox, hinting of another programming codes in progress. Bud, if it’s easy as you say it is, then why can’t the people who developed it do it fast? I dunno? Maybe it’s harder or something?

Killjoy molly: make a copy model, adjust set model to be slightly wider than before and done.. Cypher cam: fixed by simple removing the "hitbox" used to place the cam and done... wow so hard, this is done in many and i mean MANY other games so yes it is very easy to fix riot are being extremly lazy about alot of these issues that would take maybe a few hours to fix

@@ThePingomartin That is just how to fix the problem based on idea, not the whole progress. Well, they may just don't want to fix it.

@@ThePingomartin It's the rigid body that affects the game, not the model. The model is only what you can see, not how objects interact physically. While most game companies build their own physical environment, adjusting just a little in the parameter of an object could affect a lot of things regarding physical operation. While adjusting the parameter, they will also have to adjust its weight, physical resistance, bend resistance, appearance, UV maps (which affect how we see the molly, a small chance will lead to completely redoing the UV), geometry,... So, to sum up, the idea may sound easy, but the process to do that is pretty complicated even for a quite simple-looking game like this one. That's why to us programmers, testers, and QA, and QC departments are like enemies since they also bring a lot of work. This information is only based on what I know about 3D (which I'm still learning), coding, and the process of testing and fixing a problem regarding apps or game development. I may make a mistake somewhere, but I still believe that fixing a bug or exploit is not as easy as it may seem.

@@SeventhSaturday77 fair point that being said its not hard enough to take a company like riot months to fix.

@@ThePingomartin Yes. Riot is a big company, and is paid by a wealthy Tencent, so it's hard to imagine thry can't fix these exploits. So the true reason may be because they don't want to fix.

I guess you could argue that for known exploits. But exploits have a blanket ban BECAUSE pro teams used to spend months trying to find exploits. A pretty well known case is the Olofboost in CSGO. There was no way for Valve to patch something they weren't even aware of, and if they hadn't of had the ban on using exploits and glitchspots Fnatic would've won.

nah people think fixing a bug is like 2-3 hours of time ,nah nah, as a dev for mobile apps, I can say its not that simple, for any bug to be fixed it has to go through sprint planning -> qa retesting and steps to reproduce -> dev having bandwidth to pick it up(issues will be picked up by priority) -> fix -> qa -> regression testing -> released in patch its not as simple as just fix it , Devs are almost short staffed and priorities are not set up by dev's...And i can say it is much more complex for Games...

This moment reminded me exactly of the olofboost. That was iconic to witness live ​@@hc32313

LoL: First time?

@@dk-hv9eq they knew about that exploits for months 💀