Future Kettei here, I have posted a follow-up video to clear so misunderstandings on my points in this video as I believe I didn't come across as clear as I should have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qZ54krxmp5O3aXU.html hope this clears the confusion and makes it clear on my points!

Don’t farm artifacts until 45, don’t farm relics until 45. Here we go again.

It's crazy how some ppl already are super far in the game, it literally came out 3 days ago,,,,

The only mistake I see is if you spend real money on this type of game if you are financially struggling.

Please do NOT BUY A-rank characters from shop. Buy Master Tapes (gatcha tickets) instead. You gonna pull a LOT for limited S-rank characters. That's mean a lot of A-rank stuff including chars. I have already Anton on C5 as F2P.

Note on Drive Discs: it can be worth getting a few very basic discs, cause contrary to GI and HSR, ZZZ doesn't give you a load of them through exploration - I personally improved my time on one of the Challenge commissions from 5 minutes to less than 4 minutes just by giving lv6 B-rank sets with a good 4-piece bonus to each of the characters in the team. That being said, there's indeed absolutely no point farming a lot them before you can reliably get S-ranks - I spent exactly 180 charge on 2 quick sets (plus a free Shockstar Disco set) and now I'm waiting.

so basically just need to focus on leveling my agents first.

If only i knew how to farm the fucking relics. God give me patience.

Really appreciate the video, I'm getting to that point where resource grinding is about to hamstring me if I manage it poorly. At Level 22 and starting to team build, this helps a lot, cheers and best of luck! Also I hope family issues get settled in a copacetic manner, sending good vibes

as a person who used to and still plays HSR daily saving the signal points for extra character cores is quite good, especially if your pull luck is shit and you haven't gotten any

I agree with your points overall but I think some exception can and should be made. For example individual drive disks are obviously only worth to farm at higher lvls BUT getting the 4 piece set bonus is really worth it and those 60 energy will not be wasted. Same with lvling characters. yes its not worth getting all characters up to your current max BUT getting the first "ascension" for everyone is totally worth it. 3 gray materials in exchange for a single pull on standard banner? Hell yea The only thing I want to add to your last point is to honestly go for billy, nicole and anby dupes. If they treat them as they did in genshin those three will never be on rate up and that makes them so much rarer and harder to get on c6. so whenever they are available in the shop they should be the main target with exception of new units you just weren't lucky enough to get yet.

Tbh, for end game content you need two teams, but for sure, start with one solid one, I for example use Nekomata, Anri and Suokaku, it's not the best team but it has enough synergy to carry me for lvl 30 content for now with some amount of comfort and it's fun to play.

i didnt do any of these mistakes because i learned from hsr and wuwa. my ellen will always be ready for the next lvl breakpoint. the only thing that i did and im not sure if it was correct: i was running ellen, soukaku and grace but ended up replacing grace with anby because it was getting kinda hard stunning bosses at lvl 30 content. and anby can be also used for more parry occassions.

Thanks for this guide. Made some of these mistakes in Genshin and Star Rail, so I'm trying to be smarter in ZZZ. This game has been fun so far so I don't want to burn out of it.

Hahaha this is perfect because i was like how do i even get drive discs. Thanks for this. Im listening

Let me know if youve made any of these mistakes so far! And also be sure to join the discord in the description!

So glad I found this vid early. Haven't made any of these mistakes yet.

Sir you just saved my entire game time playing ZZZ

Definitely was gonna try and focus on leveling 6 characters at the same time lol. I was skeptical about wasting a lot of the resources you mentioned and I’m glad I didn’t. I’ll have a team for endgame and I’ll progress others slowly when I want a little variety by playing easier missions.

Thanx for the advice- jus got access to the HIA vr training- Liking the game so far- I may go and try HKS and GI again-

Thats my first gacha experience and i'm happy for not make any mistake util now. Thank u for the tips

ay I haven’t played the game n this is one of the first vids on the game thank you i fucked with honesty you have I’m subbing 🙌🏾

I fell into that trap of farming artifacts early in the game when there’s no real need to yet until things get harder. You can get through pretty much all the content without having discs at all. Just focus on upgrading characters and your skills. Because if you played any hoyo game a lot of your damage comes from skills and upgrading your character. Artifacts are just the icing on it. Solid Points because I fell into this trap when I first played Genshin and thought I needed to build every character and farm artifacts incredibly early. This is just good advice for gachas in general

Is it a bad idea to try to farm a second team to help with side elements? Ive noticed my main teams output falls short when it comes to ice based levels

For the engines, there are some cases in hsr where standard lightcones still perform. Like Clara's lightcone or Himeko's lightcone

I think there is some nuance for some of these. For the fuel, I think there IS merit in using them "below level 35". I have put them into raising my team. All of them. I've spent it all. And I think it's a worthwhile investment because 1) the way experience works, energy is more worthwhile early on as the thresholds between levels is smaller in the lower levels compared to higher levels, and 2) GUARENTEED upgrades will always be more worthwhile than CHANCE upgrades. I'm currently at lv. 33, and have unlocked not only more story content but also more Hollow Levels, which has significantly increased my enjoyment of the game. I DO NOT BELIEVE that there is a "right time" to use fuel. Yes, there's "wrong times" like farming discs early on, but there's just as strong of an argument towards using them for guaranteed upgrades and account progression. Yes, it's not a race, why would you use them to progress your account level. It's because that's what I want to prioritized. And having cleared up to Shiyuu Defence 6 with all S-Rank clears, and having the ONLY reason I cannot progress be that I need to raise a 2nd team. I cannot say that it was a bad investment. As for the W Engines, I think the same argument stands. Would I rather a strong engine, or 30 pulls? because on one hand, yes it is expensive to get the engine. But on the other hand, 30 pulls is really not that much, and you could just as likely get shafted with your pulls, making that 30 pulls wasted in a way. I think the right way to do it is to hoard these currencies, and decide what you'd like to prioritize more. For me personally, I have 117 pulls saved up, and I have no intention of pulling for the foreseeable future. But Alexandrina's W Engine is a HUGE boost in account value, not only because I have her on my account, but also because it's a downright insane support engine, giving Pen Ratio%, off-field energy regen, alongside a 20.2% attack boost. So I would really like to get it. Same logic and rules applies to the A-Rank Agents in the store. Again as I said before, it's guaranteed upgrades versus chance upgrades. Hopefully I don't sound too disrespectful. I'd like you to know that !'m not saying this to dispute or discredit the points you made, but rather to show that saying it's the wrong decision isn't painting the whole picture. At the end of the day this is a PvE game, so playing in a way that allows you to enjoy it best should be the driving factor. And having played multiple gacha games regularly, there really isn't any kind of damage you can do to an account that isn't fixable with better planning when moving forward.

It’s okay bro I have bad family issues too! I accidentally avoided grave issues to my ZZZ account because of family issues! So it’s a blessing and a curse, I feel you.❤

As someone who plays zzz and path to nowhere, your point about stocking up resources is so true and valid because even though path to nowhere is a tower defense game, i am DYING everyday now spending most my energy on coins and level up materials. Though thankfully I’m mostly at endgame for path to nowhere so for me personally it’s not really a waste as I have plenty of characters that are max level that I can use as my main team for future stories and event.

Essentially the same issues that all the other Mihoyo games have except for Honkai Impact, early game being anti-consumer and punishing you for wanting to build more than three characters, at the very least early game here is more tolerable than in Genshin

Not me watching this video after doing every side quest, every mewmew objective, hitting rank 36 and have done all available hollow. Thankfully I havent made any of these mistakes... I kind of tackled this the same way I tackled hsr. I only have three units leveled rn and its my core team! Thank you for the video ans for all the hard work!

I did 5 drive disc missions for the pass mission, but yeah, since it is weekly, that is gonna hurt. Might just buy the levels from that exp missing

Well, I kinda agree with you, but as a veteran Genshin player who reached out to the Ar60 abyss tryharder, I would say that without disc and upgrading some of it, the struggle is real, especially when you face the challenge of combat and sh*t. I think upgrading your stats is worth it while the game itself still gives you a lot of resources anyway. Just keep in mind to upgrade the characters that you play the most, not all of them.

Great video, especially consider ZZZ is probably the FIRST gacha game for many ofthem

The relic system is very confusing coming from hsr, with the different discs and nothing to differentiate them, no clue what stat I am looking for too

Should i try to get ellen c1 or schould i wait to maybe get zhu Yuan in the future? And is it worth to buy pulls with polychrome?

Just finally unlocked the ability to use stamina and now its starting to become more familiar like Genshin and a lot of fun. I pulled S rank Kitty cat girl for my 50th pull, she's aight, but i want baseball bat girl really bad.

hey man, amazing video! I do want to point out that at 5:56 do you mean fragile resin instead of condensed resin?

Astronomical. My first time actually playing and investing time into a game like this and I've done zero mistakes so far. Tbf I have played hsr but I got a bit bored with having to increase your level to progress the storyline and I lost interest in the storyline. But ZZZ is honestly the best game I have played to date. Can't wait for the future updates, honestly.

When he is saying not to waste those credits for w-engine, he wanted to say to loose 50/50 for them

Gotta get to bed ill definitely watch when i wake up! Lord knows ive made a couple of these haha

Bros lit into the video tha i really listened while washing the dishes

It all comes down to shuyi defense though, if you will need some decent DDs to clear more of it before it resets, then you should farm them, instead of uslesss stu that you wont even be ableto use until ater the current shuyi defense expires and you lose the rewards forever.

What stock number would you recommend I save for upgrading my agents like up to 100 or something much higher in your preference?

2 minutes just to say you need to hit lvl 35 to unlock s-rank drives.

I like ur useful advice and knowledge and ur too serious i feel if i made a mistake it’s OVER

You say to stock up on resources. I can understand the leveling materials, but materials like the promotions and for the skills, is it safe to do so until the next version is unlocked? Is there synthesize to make them a higher level material?

Me thinking how do you farm disc 😅 running with nekomata piper and lucy .. focusing on assist counter and dodge counter with nekomata at the center

Once you get to a certain point in Shiyu defense, you do need two teams! Which is number 7 on the first frontier. I don't know when you should start building, but you do need 2 teams at some point.

i dont even know if i will still be playing in two months, and I want to have fun now, so not all tips apply to me

I'm a new player to the gacha game world with ZZZ being my first. Maybe i played one before without knowing. Luckily, the only mistake so far was using the batteries, but only 2. Once I learned how much of a waste it was, I stopped. Thank you for the tips!

Hey man! since I've been super busy and tired, I've not put much into the game, and have only checked some of your videos in ZZZ (I was trying to avoid it 😭) Is there any way to tell what is the resistance of enemies and weaknesses WITHOUT having to memorize them from the guide?

Another tip to add, keep an eye on the daily coffee you can get at the coffee shop, each day there will be coffee that will buff the drop rate for materials, so not only you get 60 extra energy daily, you also get some extra materials

Is it worth it to even grind for regular Master Tapes? Encrypted Master Tapes are more valuable for getting a new S rank character that you want. I’m just not sure if that character will show up again once the limited time has passed. Had a thought that the previous S-Rank character would show up in the Stable Channel

I managed to somewhat disagree with several of your points. 1. 35 is where Drive Disks can drop 1 S rank per run. If the trend follows HSR, 45 is probably where you're guaranteed 2 per run. Although you shouldn't extensively farm drive disks at 35 and maybe not even at 40, it should be worthwhile to do a few runs to pick up a few pieces to round out your sets. 2. Based on my HSR experience, where I started towards the end of 1.2, I never actually ran out of credits and I only did a little bit of credit farming due to people who were advising it. The main primary resource that I ran out of, a lot, during my experience, has always been light cone XP. Particularly if you're limiting the number of units you're raising, you shouldn't need to prefarm dennies. Promotion and Skill materials are probably a better bet. If you got enough, start prefarming for your second team. 3. Based on that same HSR experience, I was able to raise 2.5 teams without running out of materials, up until I got all ten of them to level 70. Because Shiyu Defense requires 2 teams, you should already be looking ahead and planning out your second team. When it comes to maxing out a character, if it follows the general trend, bringing a character to 60 and maxing out everything costs twice as much as bringing them to 50, and about four times as much as bringing them to 40. Now, again, my experience with HSR had me starting late, and that gave me some extra resources from the extended storyline that launch players did not have. Still, if you want to challenge the end game content, you should be fine to raise two teams. The main consideration is, will you pull someone in patch 1.1 or 1.2 that will completely throw out some members or all of your secondary team? Personally, I'm gambling on disorder holding up for a few patches and being a worthwhile low investment team that I can use to invest in now before pivoting to something else later down the line. 4. On saving fuel... I once worked out why saving fuel was slightly more efficient than spending it but I can't what it was. The main argument for not saving them is that there are no events where spending your fuel later is more efficient than spending them now. The farming stages you can run now that are less efficient simply front load the stamina expenditure you'd be using to reach the next proxy level breakpoint anyway. The biggest efficiency value you can probably get from saving up fuel is likely to be pushing your way to the next promotion to improve your weekly boss fight rewards (think of every fuel as a bonus 600 proxy XP), or to squeeze out a bit more farming to improve your Shiyu Defense attempt before it ends. I do overall agree with the message of not spending them right away - they're more useful for things like this when spending them usually isn't going to get you that much anyway, but there's no need to hang on to them until legendary proxy either. 5. I do agree with not buying the W-engines from the shop right away, but that's more due to not knowing right now which one might be the equivalent of Bronya's light cone (which I managed to still not get, because I spent my savings on Firefly E2 instead). I'm not sure spending them on A-rank units for constellations are worth it, but it might be worthwhile to get a new A rank you haven't managed to pull yet. If you don't plan on pulling on weapon banners (which I only did for Kafka's rerun and now Firefly), you might want to get one of those W-engines once it's clearer which one holds the most long-term value. Right now, except maybe buying a W-Engine in the shop, I don't think any F2P/low spending players are in any position to have made irreparable mistakes... unless they already went all out on disk drive farming when they haven't even unlocked S rank drops yet.

The only mistake I see is spending Polychromes, god forbid Monochromes, on Battery Charges.

Yeah...wish I had seen this a couple of days ago when I first started the game. This is my first true endeavor into a gatcha game (normally hate the genre because of money bleeding tactics, but this one is actually different), so I don't know the dos and don'ts. Fortunately, out of the five mistakes here, I've only made two: saving resources and team focusing. I'm at Inter-Knot level 28, and I've already come across lack of resources for character leveling because I treated this like a typical video game and leveled many characters. First I focused on my favorites and built an all out Electric type team (Rina, Anby, Anton). But then I learned how to synergize based on faction and attribution, and I get intimidated by Commissions if I can't meet their attribute recommendations (as a LONG time Pokemon player, bringing super effective damage is like a drug I need). So I began leveling characters beyond my core team, at least one in every attribute. Yes, two-thirds of my roster sit maxed at my current level cap, but now I have NOTHING. So I'm just gonna farm Commissions for my Investigator logs, leave my Drive Discs alone (started experimenting with it, gonna stop now), and continue to use my Polychrome solely on the limited time pulls (STILL have not got Ellen, the one I want anyway and wasted a bunch of Poly on the first two days looking for Nekomata, never got her). I'll keep these tips in mind and try to rectify the mistakes I already made. Thank you! I'm new at this, but maybe there's hope for me if I reach endgame!

6:20 every advice are correct except for this one. It's the same misconception from genshin and honkai. You should use your batteries now (on anything other than discs) so you can hit higher levels earlier. There is no advantage saving them for later.

Yo, do anybody have tips to save battery, because waiting battery to fill up is so long

I'm new to the Hoyo game, so I got Reina at pull 50 so I built up Anton, Anby Reina until all lvl 30,,, but I got Ellen at Pull 100, should I move to Ellen,, with the composition Ellen Anby Reina??

After reaching IK35,i've circled back to this video,and here's my advice: At max,you should be building 6 characters. Anby,Nicole,and your first standard should carry you until your first limited character. The Signal shop talent chips are shortcuts worth getting IF you have bought out the 10 searches and can keep your shop currency reserves above 900 for next month's reset. If you really like a character,wait for them to pop up in the monthly store,but remember they cost 7 searches you could buy instead. One shop S rank W-engine= 30 shop pulls,so i'd highly not recommend them.

What made me quit Genshin, was the terrible practice of leveling up your chars and gears via limited currency. You don´t level anything up by just playing. You have to invest a resource that you (back then) couldn´t even farm. Got a new S-Tier char? too bad, you can´t even level them up, but maybe wanna buy some crap with real-life money?

Ive been rerolling for days to get the wolf so i haven't been able to make any mistakes. Ive only actually started to play yesterday after getting him and ill for sure keep these in mind

i dont agree with the batteries. We do need to use them to level up more easily. Plus, we still need to wait a bit until farming discs is super important so honestly just spend them to level up. We´ll get more of them

As of now I guess I’m gonna mainly focus on leveling up soldier 11 and Lucy. Praying I get Piper so I can have a fully coordinated fire focused team set up

I made like only one of these mistakes but not fully yet.. TIME TO FARMMM! I need Shark girl!!!!!

make 1 team first then go for a 2nd (focus on characters that will be future proof)

Funny how all of these tips can be applied to Honkai and Genshin as well. Artifacts and relics are pretty much useless before u can get 5 star ones. Currency runs out fast, when I ran out of mora in Genshin it was a hell grinding it. It's hard making multiple teams considering how much resources you have to use. I really love pulling for new characters and making new teams but then I remember that gacha games are so grindy. The best thing in gacha games are getting new characters bit It's a hell when you have to build them. Resources get thin and it requires a lot of grinding just to build a new character especially the more further in the game you are. I'm still in early game in ZZZ but in Genshin after I maxed my first team I ran out of mora and other resources making a new 4 characters team journey so long. I'm scared that ZZZ will probably follow the same path.

LoL I only got hit on the battery cuz I got a new A character and when I’m to get it up to level 😊

This is my first ever game in the genre, I’m a classic standard gamer, cod, last of us bla bla, and this has hooked me!!! Two s tier pulls instantly, no money spent, level 23, and hooked!!! Loving it

I only did one mistake not save the batteries

Hey um I have a question how do I farm master tapes I really want to get Ellen because I like her play style and I just need to get some more master tapes easy

How are we supposed to stock up on these valuable resources if we already don't have enough of them? I spend energy just to progress a bit in upgrading my team.

I can’t do all this, my computer can barely open the game 😭

I may or may not have spent a few ether batteries(4 of these), Oops… It’s fine…I’ll save on them in the future and am not in a hurry…😊

making combat easier or clearing faster by getting discs early on is not a mistake, far from it, and you'll stack up on basic mats whether you want to or not regardless if you farm for them or not

So far, I've made 1 out of the 5 mistakes in the game.

Best ZZZ content creator.

Thought for sure one of the mistakes would be spending the Primo equivalent on standard banner pulls instead of the character banners.

S drive-disc are at level 40? Good to know, I'm at 37 and waiting for farming them

Okay good video since I did build my roster up to everyone to a certain point like level 20 each. Mainly because one is because I need to use specific elements. But if I get that blue chick for the 17th time….I’m burning this game

In my opinion the biggest mistake you can make is if you're not enjoying the game to continue playing it, and if you see something you want or something you wanna do something do it, don't take it so seriously, unless you want to

What do you think is the best team for Rina right now?

Some those S rank W-engine are literaly game changing items. Like top right one for Nekomata that one lone increases her dmg by 45%. Bottom left one for Solider 11 that on increases her dmg by 48%. Not sure how you can tell me to ignore them when alternative is a 5% increase in dmg. Don't get me wrong yes you could get 30 exclusive pulls instead and that is impressively better if your trying to get the banner character but if your not trying to force the banner character those engines are 100% better to go for than 30 attempts at the banner character.

As someone who prefarms using dreams. I don't need to save my batteries ngl xD

So uh...I have the whole cunning hares trio (billy anby and Nicole) at level 30...they are the strongest characters I have in my small roster right now...does that mean I have to stick with those characters for the rest of the game even after finding characters that I like more?- (Don't get me wrong I love the cunning hares, that's why I leveled them up so much to begin with, but there are also a few characters that I'm interested in and would love to play with. Note: I still don't have an S-Rank character, I'm level 24 and I've been playing since its release, been piling up all my polychrome and master tapes by doing missions. And of course, combining that with the initial rewards I had from pre-ordering the game and the ones from the mail I got for free...I've stacked up quite a bit for pulls.

i think my first mistake is the third one since i've yet to spend my master tapes, boopons, and other types of gacha tickets and only been upgrading Anby, Nicole, and Billy 😅

Me watching this knowing i wasted all my ether batteries on Ellen Joe

Im gonna have a team with rina,anby and billy (billy will be open to switch when i get someone else) is this good team for somewhat casual play?

My team is just A rank cunning hares because their great lol

How do I even farm drive disks? I can't find any icon or domain related to them.

Im planning on using Lycaon. What are agents should i go with?

play how you like but with f2p then dont rush. though i rushed and now on level 35. basically i spend on gacha games i play so im fine with it. trying to get friendship 4 on ellen and basically speed reading early story so i can use her on the world.

I've already done all of those mistakes😅

I spent all my ether batteries a while ago. Everything else is good tho

I haven't reached endgame yet, but he said built a team of 3, don't you need 6 agents for endgame?

just a perspective as a video editor, your concise and paced way of talking is really good for videos like this. However, make sure youre using a script instead of freeballing the info as you record. Nothing turns viewers away more than a slow pace of narration thats also full of repeated lines and improvised filler. I can understand wanting to meet the 10min mark but dont do it this way, especially when hundreds of channels are already covering these same topics in much shorter, more straight to the point videos

I f’ed up again 😩

i'm glad i have not made any of these mistake yet thanks to years of playing gacha game and hoyo games

Alright thanks

I’m int lvl 36 and drive disc farm it’s def still useless rn!