The Biggest NERFS In Genshin History...

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0:00 Intro
1:26 Number 5
4:11 Number 4
6:41 Number 3
8:51 Number 2
13:12 Number 1
14:21 Honorable Mentions
20:32 Outro

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@frequent_blue2071
@frequent_blue2071 Жыл бұрын
this man really said the barbara bloom team couldve been better than nilou. BIAS AGAINST nilou and underrating showing once again. but since we need to make a narrative for the video that the nerf was "big" and that hoyo doesnt want to make free units good, we will just spout out blatant misinfo. really glad they fixed that bug, imagine how much more he would doompost nilou if it was still in the game.
@normal6483
@normal6483 Жыл бұрын
It absolutely could have been better than Nilou. Have you seen any footage of the bug in action? She produced more seeds that exploded much faster than Nilou's Bountiful Blooms ever have. The sheer speed of seed production would outpace Nilou's damage buff, even taking into account her speed buff as well. It was absolutely busted, and a super cool interaction.
@ed.dy9921
@ed.dy9921 Жыл бұрын
it's really couldve been better AND you can add cryo too to generate more seeds + anemo for grouper unlike nilou's restriction.
@OktavianusCelestialine
@OktavianusCelestialine Жыл бұрын
Have you forgotten that in Barbara bloom team you can easily bring CC without reducing / eliminating an effect like on Nilou team ? and he said it's only better in some conditions (especially conditions that require CC), not necessarily better than Nilou in all conditions.
@echomancer422
@echomancer422 Жыл бұрын
Nice strawman. Yes, he clearly doesn't like nilou, namely the restrictions her teams require. But in none of his videos did he "doompost" her. Pre-release there was no Nahida so being skeptical was warranted. Post nahida, he'd always been saying nilou teams are good performance wise. Even in this video, he never said pre-nerf Barbara was strictly better than Nilou, only under certain conditions.
@brofourtwenty2143
@brofourtwenty2143 Жыл бұрын
He said multiple times that nilou bloom is one of the strongest teams in the game xd or am i trippin
@cyberjeeb
@cyberjeeb Жыл бұрын
Biggest nerf is mihoyo purposely making new enemies immune to venti
@ndntm
@ndntm Жыл бұрын
life is sad when my venti isn't sucking well enough
@maxxvii2037
@maxxvii2037 Жыл бұрын
Venti succ game was too good for Hoyo It's really weird because he's an Archon, he is supposed to be a really strong unit.
@LordKittenfish
@LordKittenfish Жыл бұрын
@@ndntm HUH
@MrGshinobi
@MrGshinobi Жыл бұрын
And then they went back and made those enemies vulnerable to venti again :)
@bootstrap925
@bootstrap925 Жыл бұрын
2.0 is when they started adding more enemies that couldnt get sucked up by venti, and 1.6 (the patch before 2.0) is when they added kazuha. really makes you think...
@JMike-bq6rl
@JMike-bq6rl Жыл бұрын
Mika's Charged Attack with 20 stamina cost...."Bug Fixed" into 25.....An actual Nerf.
@Pbayisthegoat
@Pbayisthegoat Жыл бұрын
Didn’t we get primos
@alexliengsky6884
@alexliengsky6884 Жыл бұрын
"If you charge attack on Mika you deserve the Abyss floor you're stuck at. If- I'm just saying, if you charge attack with Mika you deserve to be where you are. Also he sounds goofy as hell" - Mr. Zy0niks
@neopalmiscus57
@neopalmiscus57 Жыл бұрын
Heizou also😢
@skybattler2624
@skybattler2624 Жыл бұрын
But no one even uses Physical.Mika.... Wait...
@yuzmanito
@yuzmanito Жыл бұрын
@@neopalmiscus57 Just to make Bori...I mean, Wanderer even more powerful than him
@pongyyyy
@pongyyyy Жыл бұрын
its crazy to think that these broken 4 stars like fischl and Xingqiu were so broken that they had to nerf them and they're still insanely good
@robinj4286
@robinj4286 Жыл бұрын
I think it was ok Nerf Xinque or they will be forced to remove the ICD of units that should have one in first place. Making some even more busted.
@RafidW9
@RafidW9 Жыл бұрын
They still can't nerf Bennett. They tried so hard with Dendro, cucked the whole interaction between pyro and dendro, introduced new enemies that apple dendro so much you get burned in Bennett Q, and he's still a sigma chad unit.
@sashimi3478
@sashimi3478 Жыл бұрын
​​@@RafidW9i honestly think they could have if they tried to, by making HP, EM, DEF or maybe even ER scaling units better overall, as well as better buffers for those specific stats. They chose not to, they clearly stated that combat is not the focus of the game, which is fine by me, they clearly want to appeal to the casual community by giving them an immersive story, setting, music character design etc. And that's for the most part been a very successful approach. I don't find it very likely they will ever powercreep any of the old broken tier units anytime soon.
@castielysia
@castielysia Жыл бұрын
@@RafidW9 I mean he isn't that great with alot of dendro teams, so they kind of succeeded
@littleboss2006
@littleboss2006 Жыл бұрын
@@robinj4286 XL nerf when
@jamiwami7280
@jamiwami7280 Жыл бұрын
Dehya was nerfed when she released if she stayed as a story character only she’d be stronger
@552jacki3
@552jacki3 Жыл бұрын
Real
@ChangedNames
@ChangedNames Жыл бұрын
she wasn't nerfed she was murdered😔
@mickysaif
@mickysaif Жыл бұрын
dehya is still better than amber guys don't worry
@WackyIraqi777
@WackyIraqi777 Жыл бұрын
Still love Dehya. She won't be clearing abyss any time soon but she can clear emblem domain for me pretty quickly.
@ra6765
@ra6765 Жыл бұрын
@@WackyIraqi777 same. she can just walk around in overworld doing absolutely nothing and contributing nothing to the fight but i'll still love her. i just wish she was better
@g-1050
@g-1050 Жыл бұрын
Biggest nerf has to be removing the super jump ability albedo’s skill had that let you instantly leap over mountains.
@michael199820
@michael199820 Жыл бұрын
Bennett/venti camera glitch was better though, allowed for both infinite height and clipping through anything from any direction.
@Kronman590
@Kronman590 11 ай бұрын
Omg i remember doing that, it was so fun
@andresvalera1430
@andresvalera1430 Жыл бұрын
I still remember in 1.1 I think it was where the grass burning was the real last boss of the game lol
@WildspeakerYT
@WildspeakerYT Жыл бұрын
the grass EM (yes grass have EM no joke) scaling with World lvl was much higher then, also different areas have different amounts of EM in the grass, so in some places of "endgame" of the map before 1.1 (some places in Liyue), Burning literally destroyed you in couple of seconds and was ina way why Bennett was so targeted as bad, and why Diluc mains complained that they couldn't play in areas with grass, actually om times
@kuukyo2586
@kuukyo2586 Жыл бұрын
I remember stepping on burning grass and dying in a second. Good times FeelsStrongMan
@henriquekovalski8099
@henriquekovalski8099 Жыл бұрын
@@WildspeakerYT I still try to stay away from burning grass man, that fucking traumatized me
@YellowPingouin
@YellowPingouin Жыл бұрын
I remeber using Bennett's skill on one of the electro crystals and then more than half of his HP was gone from overload lmao
@snowparody
@snowparody Жыл бұрын
@@WildspeakerYT for anyone interested in experiencing this again, you can bring a high EM dendro character and stand close to a stove or campfire. Or have a pyro character ignite a haystack (like the ones near Dawn Winery or next to Mondstadt blacksmith) and a high EM anemo character to swirl the pyro. It's fun.
@hadeesumbra9435
@hadeesumbra9435 Жыл бұрын
It is funny how Barbara gets nerfed a lot. Her burst area now is reduced to less than half the area it covered before, which was good for co-op. They just don't like the idea of co-op happening in Genshin, I guess.
@trivia_dex
@trivia_dex Жыл бұрын
not even half, iirc she had her burst area changed from 200 to 20 or something like that; what bugs me most is the fact that it would only work worse in coop but she’s not even that strong/popular enough for people to consistently play as her in coop
@serj5128
@serj5128 Жыл бұрын
The biggest nerf is Barbara voice 😭
@CROSSMYHEARTREFUSETODIE
@CROSSMYHEARTREFUSETODIE Жыл бұрын
Maybe Fontaine has something that requires this nerf. Barbruh just too op 😂
@XDark8SlayerX
@XDark8SlayerX Жыл бұрын
200m is over twice the size of the wolf of the North challenge arena, which is insanely ridiculous. I think the Nerf is a bit justified. 30m just puts her on par with some of the other healers.
@PigeonSuWi
@PigeonSuWi Жыл бұрын
Yeah what's the deal with that? I remember seeing some images for comparison but I didn't fully understand it, what's the reason behind this nerf?
@maulanaihsan1009
@maulanaihsan1009 Жыл бұрын
Zajeff forgot about the burning grass nerf. Its a funny time when pyro characters burn themself to crisp...
@nonamepasserbya6658
@nonamepasserbya6658 Жыл бұрын
That's not the real reason why (although it's pretty funny). They don't want BurnMelt Ganyu to be OP hence the nerf
@EdegarPereira
@EdegarPereira Жыл бұрын
@@nonamepasserbya6658 He is referring to the damage that burning grass does to characters. Higher world level players at that time were complaining about how absurd the burning grass damage was that MHY reduced it in a later patch.
@virenstein1152
@virenstein1152 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the biggest nerf of all time! The one where they fixed the "bug" where Keqing could cast her skill twice and do damage at 2 places at once.
@SergeantXray
@SergeantXray 9 ай бұрын
Even worse, they “fixed” the keqing lyre yeet
@coledorillo6685
@coledorillo6685 Жыл бұрын
OG’s remember the biggest nerf was to make Barbara’s voice lines sadder
@undeniablySomeGuy
@undeniablySomeGuy Жыл бұрын
Lets dance 😞 vs Let’s DANCE!! >:D
@JosepiThe13th
@JosepiThe13th Жыл бұрын
She sounds more comforting, not sadder.
@AsterMiracle.
@AsterMiracle. Жыл бұрын
​@@0niisamaAnd.... Now she no longer sounds like an idol at all
@sxmvp
@sxmvp Жыл бұрын
As someone who heard her new voice first, I really prefer the new one. I think she sounds just fine, the old one didn't suit her at all. Too rough.
@whythoisuk9646
@whythoisuk9646 Жыл бұрын
@@sxmvp nah she was hype as fuck back then. Hearing COME ON LET'S GOO followed by an explosion of hydro back in the beginning of the game was something that made things hype. Made her idol status more genuine. Idols are people who interact with people day to day, and their job is to be memorable and to evoke emotions of support from others. That rough but energetic voice had so much confidence, something that being mondstadts #1 idol would have definitely given her. But now she just... isn't. I can't see her genuinely being an idol or confident or capable of being what her lore says she is. At the end of the day though, it's opinion.
@luizak6443
@luizak6443 Жыл бұрын
The "nerf" (it was just a real bug fix but it felt like a nerf to my fun) that made me the saddest was them fixing the Albedo elevator bug that if you hit certain objects when the elevator started going up, you'd fly into the air. It was my favourite thing about him and I ended up teaching it to a few friends before it got patched. RIP Albedo's Space Program.
@KategariYami
@KategariYami Жыл бұрын
The Miko targeting saga was wild. I still miss the Lisa C1 interaction, as a Lisa Main.
@Shiray427
@Shiray427 Жыл бұрын
"We can't have a free unit be this good" OPPA
@vanillecrotch
@vanillecrotch Жыл бұрын
Remember when Venti-Klee interaction had to be nerfed? Then Kazuha came who can suck in the dodocos and nobody talked about it lol while venti still cant (including a few other things which kazuha can)
@mazeditsvsf
@mazeditsvsf Жыл бұрын
i saw a lot of people talking about how kazuha can suck the dodocos, idk how you didnt see it
@lynnmorgan5897
@lynnmorgan5897 Жыл бұрын
bro's got a succ stronger than the succ archon on a 6 second cd 💀 and people say hoyo doesn't play favorites lmao
@groudon3524
@groudon3524 11 ай бұрын
Venti doesn't even suck Aloy's bombs and Kirara's uh... dendro things.
@stephaniech6625
@stephaniech6625 Жыл бұрын
Barbara healing radius nerf is so unecessary and so annoying
@cuauhtlitorres3742
@cuauhtlitorres3742 Жыл бұрын
That Barbara nerf was so unfair. She was barely used already, I don't think she would've overshadowed Nilou teams at all, she would just be a F2P option to Bloom teams if you don't have Nilou. The Mondstadt idol had her time to debut, but Hoyoverse said no
@xanthee_imr
@xanthee_imr Жыл бұрын
All things considered, Nilou still made Barbara extremely more relevant, because Barbara is literally Nilou's best 2nd hydro teammate, after Kokomi, and in optimal scenarios they aren't even that far from each other.
@Dubstep_Gun
@Dubstep_Gun Жыл бұрын
I dunno bro, Barbara usage rate is 9.4% which is...Higher than Venti, Ganyu, Itto, Cyno, Yoimiya, Xiao. Insane. That's what surprises me a lot.
@cuauhtlitorres3742
@cuauhtlitorres3742 Жыл бұрын
@@Dubstep_Gun wow, I didn't expect that. Maybe they don't have Kokomi and wanted a hydro healer(?), most of them are DPS and you can only have 1 in your team, but still 9.4% is a lot
@dream6562
@dream6562 Жыл бұрын
I got nilou as a f2p and I wasn't trying
@boyishdude1234
@boyishdude1234 Жыл бұрын
Barbara's a good healer, though.
@LordKittenfish
@LordKittenfish Жыл бұрын
Biggest nerf was Klee’s walk nerf
@chomosuke0720
@chomosuke0720 Жыл бұрын
Fax I woulda pulled for her instead of Eula if they hadn't changed it
@PigeonSuWi
@PigeonSuWi Жыл бұрын
Real.
@kyuriht
@kyuriht Жыл бұрын
FAX
@nikhilhumane5540
@nikhilhumane5540 11 ай бұрын
Amber dance
@Grin-Malkin1374
@Grin-Malkin1374 9 ай бұрын
What was the nerf?
@j.emimarunrak4348
@j.emimarunrak4348 9 ай бұрын
The Xingqiu nerf was probably the BIGGEST nerf to Klee. Because his swords application could have been so strong at C6 that he will always apply Hydro. So, you can switch between attack and charge attack with Klee and her charge attack will ALWAYS vape. She used to be the best carry in the game before the nerf. It's really weird how people don't talk about this as much as we also had Zhongli drama back then and it kinda divert the community's attention to Zhongli instead. RIP Klee mains.
@eden5560
@eden5560 Жыл бұрын
I felt like an grandma when Zajef said "turbo Fischl" like damn-
@fmradio9728
@fmradio9728 Жыл бұрын
I'm still tilted that one of the rare times that hoyo decided to implement a community-requested change to a unit, they did that braindead change to Yae when there are so many better changes they couldve made to her kit. Or any other unit
@xanthee_imr
@xanthee_imr Жыл бұрын
Really I don't get it. Of course it wasn't just a "listening to the community" thing, it had to be more than that I suppose, but I can't get it.
@ThiagoJaqueta
@ThiagoJaqueta Жыл бұрын
99% of the community, specially Yae mains were telling mihoyo "DON'T DO THIS, THIS IS A BAD CHANGE" after seeing the beta leaks. They went ahead and changed her anyways, for me this is the complete opposite of "listening to the community".
@sonic55193
@sonic55193 Жыл бұрын
Zajef, you forgot to add Barbara's recent nerf again, her burst range was nerf. From 200m to 40m.
@koteghe7600
@koteghe7600 11 ай бұрын
It's not that bad compared to any character in video, so it's probably why that's left out
@omarbirkdar5536
@omarbirkdar5536 11 ай бұрын
That really doesnt do anything outside of coop, and even in coop it wont do much
@pongyyyy
@pongyyyy Жыл бұрын
would love to see more videos like this about the interesting history of genshin its very entertaining.
@xlisbrokennoicdburningtrigger
@xlisbrokennoicdburningtrigger Жыл бұрын
drut
@wawacaat
@wawacaat Жыл бұрын
sad that he didnt mention that the main example to why hyv decided to nerf xingqiu was when people started abusing the xingqiuxchongyun permafreeze comp to the point it became a meme. since both icds aligned perfectly, enemies couldn't move at all as you would start your rotation immediately before even getting hit, making it a strong freeze comp if not the first one to be that strong yet so quickly removed lmao. pd. it wasnt only xingqiu, but chongyun got the worst nerfs on cbt and with the xq permafreeze nerf his cd increased a lot (forgot by how much tho) lmao ripbozo
@rizz8362
@rizz8362 Жыл бұрын
insane how fischl was the raiden shogun before the raiden shogun was a thing
@ShiQingxuanSimp
@ShiQingxuanSimp Жыл бұрын
I was pretty pissed when they nerfed Childe’s boss fight during the Archon quest. Like, I went into that fight with Diluc, Kaeya, Barbara and Lisa in 2020. If I had to suffer so should y’all 🥲. I did that fight three to four times and Diluc was the last man standing and had 137 hp left after the fight. However it was a lot of fun. November 19, 2020 will always be remembered as a tragedy
@firby7341
@firby7341 Жыл бұрын
OMG that fight was so weird. i had 0 problems and did it the first time in a breeze and everyone was complaining how he deals so much damage and i was like: i didnt get any high damage from him?? i didnt have zhongli at that point bc he wasnt released yet and i was ar45 already so i was wondering how others had problems. and then i found the answer: its because i was a razor main. razor gets 80% electro resistance during his burst. childe couldnt touch me at all xD
@tasha2749
@tasha2749 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day where your team consist of 4 on fielder with ni synergy what so ever, aw man i really miss those day, i remember doing it for like 4 time maybe 5 and decided fuck this game i gonna watch some tutorial on youtube and seeing someone using geo mc to basically cheese the boss
@yok2239
@yok2239 Жыл бұрын
@@tasha2749omg i was using keqing and xingqiu and they were my only built dps and sub dps😭😭 i was so fucked
@crvmble_
@crvmble_ Жыл бұрын
I was using good old razor + qiqi combo. cant remember what was the other 2 slots, probably xingqiu or fischl. I had no problem with pre nerf childe's boss fight. I was so confused when I heard it got nerfed.
@joelreyescal1441
@joelreyescal1441 10 ай бұрын
Childe weekly boss is the strongest before
@tracer4b
@tracer4b Жыл бұрын
One related area I’d like to see a video for is indirect nerfs and how effective they were, for example corrosion for Zhongli, unsuckable enemies for Venti, or enemies that constantly push you around and can vape / melt off you for Bennett
@pnoodl3s775
@pnoodl3s775 11 ай бұрын
I’d argue those were meta changes and not nerfs per se, they didn’t modify the characters. It’s like cryo mages vs barbara or ruin enemies against eula
@MightBeNoir
@MightBeNoir 11 ай бұрын
I think Corrosion was mainly for healers
@realimassimiliano4748
@realimassimiliano4748 11 ай бұрын
@@MightBeNoirit was clearly made against sheilders a good healer can outclass the corrosion damage
@Elrog3
@Elrog3 10 ай бұрын
It would be pretty silly not to have a corrosion like effect in a game that has a shield as strong as zhongli's
@NatWarrior1
@NatWarrior1 Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing about the nerf to Xingqiu's rain swords but I never see footage of it that I almost just can't believe that the nerf occurred 😭 Edit: I know people didn't know about ICD in 1.0...I've been playing since 1.0 🧎 my point is that I just found it a bit difficult to find any footage of Xingqiu attacking anything that could've interacted with his rain swords' application like an abyss mage shield or an elemental boss but I might just not be looking hard enough
@hax_6787
@hax_6787 Жыл бұрын
I just looked at the 1.1 patch notes in the wiki and it says: 2020-11-13, 09:15 • Fixes an issue whereby the Rain Swords created by Xingqiu's Elemental Skill or Elemental Burst repeatedly apply the Wet status to enemies in certain situations. I also don't remember any mention of it on anything when I played back in the day, but to be fair xingqiu was just getting the recognition he deserved at that time.
@NatWarrior1
@NatWarrior1 Жыл бұрын
@hax_6787 Oooo okay tysm I was wondering if it was ever mentioned in patch notes and I thought I did but I must've forgotten 🙏
@skystriker7016
@skystriker7016 Жыл бұрын
It's not easy to find footage of it because most people did not understand ICD mechanics at the time, the best way to see the no ICD swords in action would be to find a video from 1.0 of xingqiu fighting the anemo hypostasis
@yes4612
@yes4612 Жыл бұрын
He used to be able to apply hydro on every single hit or something like that
@zephskiee5395
@zephskiee5395 Жыл бұрын
I think the best search for it is maybe 1.0 Xingqiu vaporize showcase from a whale or something, I remember a footage about C6 Xingqiu vaporizing all of the rainswords dealing like 5x 20k
@Blueberry_Koi
@Blueberry_Koi Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, mihoyo actually also stealth buff stuff... good example is thay in 3.1, they actually did make albedo's geo flower more resiliant towards aoe attacks, it breaks less than it did before now, the critiria now is that when mods use stage wide nuke it will break instead of aoe skills
@firby7341
@firby7341 Жыл бұрын
and i thought id imagine his flower break less, thanks for the info (in the polls i always said "make albedos flower indestructible" so im happy they listened)
@Blueberry_Koi
@Blueberry_Koi Жыл бұрын
@@firby7341 I just hope they give him another viable weapon, really wanna pull for him
@mustif1
@mustif1 Жыл бұрын
they stealth buffed yoimiya(or any bow normals) targeting a lot too since 2.0 it was terrible back then
@zeromailss
@zeromailss Жыл бұрын
Keqing used to be able to fly places with her skill and even able to do multiple skill with one E, shame they nerf it. Wish Mihoyo is more like Warframe dev where they add mechanic based on user gameplay like seriously, yes Sumeru and to an extent Inazuma have mechanic that help with traveling between places outside of teleporting but running around Liyue and Mondstadt is pain without mount or just anything that help us to move faster. Warframe used to be a lot slower but the community keep trying to push the boundaries of parkour and movement ability so the dev just upgrade the game and add the mechanic into the moveset while the mechanic in sumeru is so stiff and kinda odd. Just give us mount and parkour geez
@zoson
@zoson Жыл бұрын
How did you not include Jean's E slam? She could uppercut a large sized enemy into the air, then slam them into the ground repeatedly over and over for hundreds of thousands of damage.
@Jetsetlemming
@Jetsetlemming 7 ай бұрын
Basically all control interactions from anemo feel like they've been nerfed into the dirt since 2.0. Venti's ult isn't nearly as useful as it used to be, Jean struggles to move enemies, etc. It's left Sucrose and Kazuha as the defacto only anemo supports with using since they hit in a wide radius for applying VV swirls.
@zoson
@zoson 7 ай бұрын
@@Jetsetlemming You've clearly not been paying attention. Most of the new monsters in fontaine are CC-able. Including all of the fatui local legends. Jean can throw them in the air and groundslam them for, literally, a million damage.
@kateliza8922
@kateliza8922 2 ай бұрын
​@@zoson yeah, good luck moving those Mekas and aquatic enemies.
@AshyBlossom
@AshyBlossom Жыл бұрын
I remember Fischl and Xiangling was nerfed before the actual launch of the game. They were an absolute powerhouse during the beta.
@Tm-dy2bp
@Tm-dy2bp Жыл бұрын
imo they still kind of are a powerhouse together, not on par with some of the more hyper meta teams but safely can be put in the middle or upper middle of good teams. Still use my 4* team of 1.0 to this day barbara, fischl, xiangling and 4th is flex between bennet, xingqiu and sucrose. Venti also was a part of that team until they nerfed him indirectly by making enemies immune(resistant) to his CC and his CC alone still a wtf moment to this day for an archon.
@ostrich6175
@ostrich6175 11 ай бұрын
​@@Tm-dy2bpYou're right but You're also insanely wrong lol They're not "kind of" powerhouses or mid-yop tier meta wise...they are the meta lmao Xiangling has literally never stopped being SS tier and neither has Fischl. Im
@Tm-dy2bp
@Tm-dy2bp 11 ай бұрын
@@ostrich6175 They arent 'the' meta though but are in it, there are teams now that dendro is here that are brain dead easy for dmg that its ridiculous nilou team for example. I just said they have less usage now cause of it not that they arent being used anymore. Again i still use them to this day myself but not as much as hyperbloom or nilou bloom team or heck even quicken/aggravate(fischl shines here).
@manuelgardete6187
@manuelgardete6187 Жыл бұрын
This video was a lot different than the usual. It was interesting and a really enjoyable watch! Keep at it
@MyNameIsSteveYesitis
@MyNameIsSteveYesitis Жыл бұрын
Biggest nerf is kokomi not being able to permanently walk on water anymore :') that was the best couple weeks in genshin ever when that worked. People would go nuts in coop seeing you do that xD
@Elrog3
@Elrog3 10 ай бұрын
Oh man I never knew that was a thing
@thewanderingartists
@thewanderingartists 9 ай бұрын
​@@Elrog3Lol now furina can walk unlimited amount of time, how unfair is this.
@Elrog3
@Elrog3 9 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingartists I feel the same. Poor Kokomi. She doesn't even get the dolphin dive that all fontaine characters have now. And her swimming stamina reduction doesn't count for fontaine water where you do the most swimming.
@thewanderingartists
@thewanderingartists 9 ай бұрын
@@Elrog3 the did her dirty, she's such a great character.
@th0rrr
@th0rrr Жыл бұрын
I remember when u could cancel her charge attack (it would function lika nahida's, where u could spam multiple charge attacks one after another) they sadly took that away too, poor girl...
@ArtanBlacknight
@ArtanBlacknight Жыл бұрын
For me the biggest nerf is Hoyo making all new enemies Venti immune. The entire design of new enemies and floor 12 of the abyss had to be changed because of Venti Also my honorable mention: changing how Raiden's burst works so that it doesnt proc things like Beidou's burst. Raidou never made to the live server but they had to hot fix a few descriptions. So not a nerf per say but descriptions saying it worked existed on the live game, including the image describing the abyss blessing who came later on in the patch. Second honorable mention: Unlimited Blade Works Xingqiu, its was a legit bug fix
@mickysaif
@mickysaif 11 ай бұрын
imagine how broken the duo would be, they probably did it so that sara can sell more 🗿
@summermoney2971
@summermoney2971 11 ай бұрын
​@@mickysaifSara would still be used though, she is like the best electro buffer at C6
@80espiay
@80espiay Жыл бұрын
The other reason why the Yae Miko nerf was reverted was that it completely made one of her constellations (increased E range) useless if there was more than one enemy.
@firby7341
@firby7341 Жыл бұрын
i mean it still gave her level 4 turrets?
@OktavianusCelestialine
@OktavianusCelestialine Жыл бұрын
@@firby7341 C2 give her lvl 4 turrets AND increase attack range
@Hadeshi.
@Hadeshi. Жыл бұрын
you talked and explained No.2 so much that to me that one deserved No.1. Also, it's Barbara, can you imagine her being a top tier character? That was a pretty big nerf. XD
@rsfakqj10rsf-33
@rsfakqj10rsf-33 Жыл бұрын
The worst part is that she wouldn’t have been a top tier unit at all even if they keep the bug. Base bloom sucks, Barbara being able to trigger them rapidly is the only way to make them useable Abyss. If they had kept the bug, nothing substantial would change at all.
@Hadeshi.
@Hadeshi. Жыл бұрын
@@rsfakqj10rsf-33 Base bloom sucks? My 1000EM Kokomi disagrees with you. Imagine Barbara triggers blooms non-stop, if she has alot of EM that would be broken.
@rsfakqj10rsf-33
@rsfakqj10rsf-33 Жыл бұрын
@@Hadeshi. A level 90 character with 1000 EM will create bloom that does 16502 damage, with no guarantee of reaction ownership and by nature backloaded damage until a given point. A standard hyperbloom is around 30K +, has guarantee of reaction ownership, added benefit of underline taser double aura to create even more bloom and triggers instantly.
@nonamepasserbya6658
@nonamepasserbya6658 Жыл бұрын
@@rsfakqj10rsf-33 She would be the perfect Kaveh teammate pre nerf. Sac Kaveh + Anemo CC would render Nilou unnecessary if Barbara isn't nerfed
@BlackGateofMordor
@BlackGateofMordor Жыл бұрын
@@Hadeshi. Damage sequence means blooms only cause two hits per 0.5s though. Doesn't matter if she could generate so many cores if they do no damage to a hili.
@zeptocreations5507
@zeptocreations5507 Жыл бұрын
Barbara cannot catch a break. First they nerf her voice, and then they hamstring her potential with Dendro. smh Mihoyo.
@cheaire
@cheaire Жыл бұрын
makes so much sense now why guide teams back then would have support fischl with like noelle and xiao
@gaybro9289
@gaybro9289 Жыл бұрын
Suprise there's no mention of the Keqing "thunderclap and flash" where if you slow down your game and use a macro you can trigger both versions of Keqing E at the same time. I guess it was just a straight up exploit but still sad it didn't got a mention since it's fun to reminisce about how the community found it and mhy patch it immediately like 2 weeks later
@evelynrichards1696
@evelynrichards1696 Жыл бұрын
you didnt even need to mess with the game, the timing was tight af but you could do it semi-consistently without help and it was definitely the most fun any character has been in the game even till this day, wish they didnt bug fix it
@cloudwalker9572
@cloudwalker9572 Жыл бұрын
What stings with Lisa "bug fix" was that hapened as they released Raiden. You know the character that has the best energy generation in the game.
@hexaquras9374
@hexaquras9374 Жыл бұрын
I'm still fearing that the yanfei's stamina mechanic will be added here. Then again it needs to be a Big nerf and not a fun bug that hurts nobody
@underdrow5572
@underdrow5572 Жыл бұрын
Yanfei's Stamina mechanic? How was it nerfed?
@hexaquras9374
@hexaquras9374 Жыл бұрын
@@underdrow5572 there's a "feature" where Yanfei's seals also reduce her sprint stamina instead of just her CA, so if you have her c6 she can sprint almost forever
@nonamepasserbya6658
@nonamepasserbya6658 Жыл бұрын
It does hurt the sales of Yelan. Then they give up and just turn Yelan into Xingqiu 2.0
@darkdude1996ify
@darkdude1996ify Жыл бұрын
I don't think it'll get nerfed tbh. Even at C6 it's only a 60% stamina cost reduction, and that is assuming you have 4 seals. It's convenient, sure, but it's not broken to the extent it would need to be nerfed
@Lisa_Minci96
@Lisa_Minci96 Жыл бұрын
@@darkdude1996ify that's "only" more than double sprint time dude
@yuvx8516
@yuvx8516 Жыл бұрын
This might be only tangentially related but here's little history about raidou. It's technically the beta testers who asked for it. The way it originally works on the earlier beta is only her initial hit that does burst and the rest do na/ca damage. This makes eosf and her own skill buff less effective and probably ended up hurting her own personal damage. When mihoyo changed her burst to do all burst damage the leak community at first cheered for it because it sounded like a good change. And because no leaker bothered to re-record raidou team after this change. Raidou change goes unnoticed to everyone, even to a keen theorycrafters because it's the first characters to convert her na/ca to other form of damage. There's a funny artifacts of this change is if you see the abyss blessing for raiden patch it requires you to do na/ca damage after burst to gain some benefits which raiden can't use at all lmao
@Zajef77
@Zajef77 Жыл бұрын
This is a nice story but it isn't actually true. While there was a version of the beta where raiden's burst dealt normal attack damage, and there was a version of the beta like how she ended up being released, there was a version between the two where it was burst damage and worked with beidou.
@xanthee_imr
@xanthee_imr Жыл бұрын
@@Zajef77 top 10 anime betrayals, the devs gaslighted the whole community
@nonamepasserbya6658
@nonamepasserbya6658 Жыл бұрын
@@xanthee_imr Not the 1st time, remember Zhongli lmao
@groudon3524
@groudon3524 11 ай бұрын
@@Zajef77 So it means in that specific version the emblem set would've worked with Raiden AND Raidou synergy will still be there.
@AStandardSkrub
@AStandardSkrub Жыл бұрын
How about 1.4 removing snapshotting EM for transformative reactions(and by extension, additive reactions once 3.0 came out), would that be considered a big nerf?
@Zajef77
@Zajef77 Жыл бұрын
That'd be more of a buff than a nerf because so many EM buffs have conditions that make them pretty uncomfortable to fit in before snapshotting things
@AStandardSkrub
@AStandardSkrub Жыл бұрын
@@Zajef77 i see, that makes sense, still kinda wish i could snapshot Nahida q
@acanthafiore
@acanthafiore Жыл бұрын
They nerfed Barbara 10 times so that Xiangling and Bennett could stay busted. Laws of equivalent bullsh*t amirite
@ahamadsemiyan7760
@ahamadsemiyan7760 Жыл бұрын
More videos like these are very welcome. Please make more like this. Thank you
@astyutechick7980
@astyutechick7980 Жыл бұрын
What a banger video. Zajef is really good at explaining things and keep it so damm entertaining. I could listen to him talk for hours without getting bored. Great work!
@tracer4b
@tracer4b Жыл бұрын
Which large language model did you use
@xanthee_imr
@xanthee_imr Жыл бұрын
Zajef's voice when he talks about gauges and elemental interactions is like pre-nerf burning
@ray-ee5pb
@ray-ee5pb Жыл бұрын
@@tracer4bthe human brain
@mrmccargo8861
@mrmccargo8861 Жыл бұрын
omg i absolutely remember lisas one!!! every time i used her skill on a bonfire or a torch, it would give me some energy for lisa. i wondered why it didnt work anymore after some time and i guess now i finally know 😢
@_mask_
@_mask_ Жыл бұрын
I remember the recent “nerf” when mika came out and hoyoverse sent a mail that they “nerfed” his skill cool-down because it was “so low”. So they just made mika even worse
@tootall4joo
@tootall4joo Жыл бұрын
Not a huge deal but would have been nice to have some clips to show these interactions prior to the nerfs. Also honorable mention to the early Rosaria nerf.
@izumreal7902
@izumreal7902 Жыл бұрын
Nice educating video! I haven't heard about shatter nerf despite playing from the release. Now we just need a "Biggest buffs..." video with Zhongli, separate case for dendro buffed characters and, of course, the biggest bug fixes from patch notes, which technically made characters stronger.
@gunX1998
@gunX1998 Жыл бұрын
Never thought 2:2 together where “Burning” worked kinda like “Aggravate”. Now I’m thinking, tell me if I’m wrong if they didn’t nerf the pyro unit from 2 to 1 would “Burning” would be up there w/ Nilou Bloom?
@merrykritmas4891
@merrykritmas4891 7 ай бұрын
As a barbara main since 1.0 (the 50 free pulls gave me Barbara c6). She actually had another huge nerf to her c6. Whenever she revives anyone she restores them to full health but depletes all their energy and cd stays the same (not sure). But back then in 1.1 with the childe and zhongli patch she used to be able to revive the character with their cd back to 0 and gave them all their energy back. I know this since i used childe back in the old spiral abyss and i would use his E, which lasts 32 seconds if you stay on him long enough and i would forcibly let him die so that barb can revive him back with his cd back to 0 and with his energy back up too. It was a huge nerf for sure and one that went under the radar.
@tribopower
@tribopower 11 ай бұрын
remember yae miko where they fked up on top of a fk up on top of a fk up and called it a "bug fix" good times
@BrianLin-ur1gu
@BrianLin-ur1gu 11 ай бұрын
I think recently they nerfed Babara again with her ult range, it wasn't a big deal since it affects co-op only but the pre nerf range is so big that it made the after nerf range looked so funny😂
@GentleIceZ
@GentleIceZ Жыл бұрын
No mention of the even bigger barbara nerf where they changed her voice lines smh
@AleksandrsZdancuks
@AleksandrsZdancuks Жыл бұрын
I miss old Zajef, the Excel Rider, where he compares down to decimal percentages values
@jebjbing
@jebjbing Жыл бұрын
15:55 You were wrong. Even with that targeting mechanics, Yae's turret prioritized enemies over non-enemy entities. But I do agree it was a huge nerf.
@timuito243
@timuito243 Жыл бұрын
it's just random man. My Yae's E back then sometimes just hit the campfire, sometimes the enemies. It was frustrating lol
@jebjbing
@jebjbing Жыл бұрын
@@timuito243 Are you sure the enemies were not out of range? Both horizontally and vertically.
@timuito243
@timuito243 Жыл бұрын
@@jebjbing she's one of my fav, especially after dendro, I pulled and got her on her very first banner, and use her all the time. I've experienced all sorts of shit after her first fix lmao, and even gave feedback to hoyo. Glad that got reversed lol
@jebjbing
@jebjbing Жыл бұрын
@@timuito243 I also did some experiment back then, but the said issue didn't occur eh. Sometimes the enemies seemingly close to the turrets might be out of range u know, especially vertically. But either way, if what u said was true, then it randomly hit campfire with the condition (campfire entity being closest to the turret) right? So what Zajef said was inaccurate to say the least.
@boyishdude1234
@boyishdude1234 Жыл бұрын
I still remember that clip from a male Vtuber of some sort (don't know his name) where Miko's Burst targeted the wall in the Vishap boss fight in Enkanomiya.
@aerynaegi8367
@aerynaegi8367 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about one thing, the use of instructor on Bennett changes his normal rotation in sucrose national right? Cuz the normal way people do it was Bennett Q, XQ Q, XL E, Sucrose E(Guoba swirl), XL Q, XQ E/E(x2) but with instructor I've found myself using XQ before Bennett to trigger vape on Bennett and proc the instructor set
@Lesterberne
@Lesterberne Жыл бұрын
No older clips showcasing the interactions?
@zafkielvondegurechaff3634
@zafkielvondegurechaff3634 Жыл бұрын
I miss turbo Fischl man...
@jyro1072
@jyro1072 Жыл бұрын
they leaked raiden's kit with turbo fischl
@NoobSharkey
@NoobSharkey Жыл бұрын
@@jyro1072 raiden wishes she was turbo fischl
@nicolyas1919
@nicolyas1919 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the revert on the Yae Miko's E because of one of her constellation that increases the area that a totem can hit. So making it touching the closest target make the constellation a scam? I have an other question. Xinqui got a "bug fixed" in 1.1 but didn't he got an other one in 1.3?
@anotherrandomperson9174
@anotherrandomperson9174 Жыл бұрын
12:19 THIS MAKES ME SO SAD WHAT 😭 Barbara my beloved… I wish I’d realized and played with her when I could…
@mini-mei
@mini-mei 11 ай бұрын
As someone who enjoys physical, I would have loved to find more in dept info on the physical nerf here (I think that happened sometime in 2.x), or the general dmg nerf in 3.6 that affected all units.
@johanandrian3563
@johanandrian3563 Жыл бұрын
I wonder does fischl still have special ICD on her skill or does hoyo remove it?
@prime3389
@prime3389 9 ай бұрын
needs to be updated for the Diluc turbo omnipotent god DPS bug with Venti
@aJanzu
@aJanzu 11 ай бұрын
love these Genshin history stuff. very interesting to see the development since I haven’t always been playing since the start.
@ultoemmz72
@ultoemmz72 Жыл бұрын
Remember the xingqui/albedo infinite e proc glitch? Would that count
@IgorGrazina
@IgorGrazina Жыл бұрын
That one is clearly a bug tho, but it was funny
@zertbrown4642
@zertbrown4642 Жыл бұрын
this video is pretty cool, I never thought about nerfs being a thing, but more like bug fixes
@jyusatsu
@jyusatsu Жыл бұрын
Didn't expect to learn some interesting stuff today. The more I know
@tehpyono2203
@tehpyono2203 11 ай бұрын
I played since week 1, but didnt really follow these nerfs. So this video actually taught me how Babara E works lol. Since I started using her in Fontaine in hyperbloom and noticed her generating lots of core when I used her skill but didnt think much of it.
@MrVhatever
@MrVhatever Жыл бұрын
Didn't they always hav an internal cap to how fast something can have an element applied to them. It's a really small nunber like every 0.3 or maybe 0.2 seconds. So his rain swords would simply apply hydo every wave one time anyway unless they landed at a really odd angles.
@joshakins4923
@joshakins4923 Жыл бұрын
Does shatter cause an instance of damage like melt or vape does
@adrianpinnock
@adrianpinnock Жыл бұрын
Great video buddy!
@Gnurklesquimp
@Gnurklesquimp Жыл бұрын
18:50 This song is really cool and interesting in general, but this part and the way it subverts expectations is especially cool
@masterdementer
@masterdementer 7 ай бұрын
And then there was that Xingqiu bug where you could get infinite heals on his water swords. You just to go close to a electro crystal and use E skill. Then wait until the healing kicks in. And when you leave after that it will keep healing. It was a pretty early bug like in 1.0 or 1.1.
@nanathedelta8561
@nanathedelta8561 Жыл бұрын
I never thought I’d recognize any of this but here I am. I feels old right now lmao 😂 TF and CW interaction, I can forgive since we got a buff to transformative reaction in exchange. but Lisa nerf was straight up pure evil. not only that make her even more painful to play but also add salt to injury since they did this to her during Raiden banner.
@lucklei4665
@lucklei4665 Жыл бұрын
Then they massively "buffed" her by adding dendro so i dont know seems like a pretty good trade to me
@Monkey_D_Luffy56
@Monkey_D_Luffy56 Жыл бұрын
0:20 there is a game that is popular on Asia called Mobile Legends bang bang and they kinda do that, they basically buff a hero then after it got popular on the meta they'll gonna release an expensive skin then revert it back to normal, back then they are selling the skin like a very straightforward but after covid they are going to like a gacha where there is no certainty you'll get the skin unless you got the pity
@reyxo4657
@reyxo4657 Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to build a reverse melt team with Thoma But he doesn't apply pyro well enough alone and burning is not helping that much Knowning that burning had a *way* better pyro application kills me
@mrdetermin3d445
@mrdetermin3d445 Жыл бұрын
My Yao Miko still attacks camp fires like they’re a threat.. LOL
@auroricaura
@auroricaura Жыл бұрын
YEAHHH i knew that would be no. 1 and watching this video was a HUGE trip down memory lane. I don't play anymore but seeing jinx talk abt turbo fischl and supervape at the time of release was incredible. Definitely a golden period of genshin for me.
@migo.ff69b4
@migo.ff69b4 Жыл бұрын
o7 to 4TF lisa tap E machine gun
@robin7010
@robin7010 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the pre 1.1 Xingqiu would have led to a similar Situation that Herrscher of the Void caused in Honkai Impact, which was that 1. The Abyss had to be remade, because together with the defense Shred from another Character, she obliterated every single abyss no matter the debuffs,enemys, you name it, it contained 2. It caused a Powercreep to Significantly speed up, because everything had to catch up to her damage at least to some degree Just to put into perspective how broken (not op, straight broken) she was, if we leave out the absolut mega whales who have what in Genshin would be considered C6R5, Herrscher of the Void can still be used to clear abyss stages quick enough, to save you from going down into a lower braket...nearly 4 YEARS of powercreep later
@chomosuke0720
@chomosuke0720 Жыл бұрын
Started playing Honkai when Darkbolt Jonin just came out and Judah was so strong it was considered a character in tier lists LMAO I remember Honkai veterans telling me about HoV horror stories too
@turonafterdark4027
@turonafterdark4027 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the barbara nerf 😢 as a barbara main that sucks 😢
@pplwhoreplyisorangutan8543
@pplwhoreplyisorangutan8543 Жыл бұрын
I thought he was gonna talk about the fischl infinite ult camera or kokomi infinite waterwalk.
@mikrikbe
@mikrikbe Жыл бұрын
there was also ayaka's CA range nerf
@JosepiThe13th
@JosepiThe13th Жыл бұрын
You talking about the Barbara nerf sounded personal 😂
@hxlydied
@hxlydied Жыл бұрын
anyone know the song that starts playing at 13:48
@nara-yana
@nara-yana Жыл бұрын
*Barbara,* Queen of Nerfs! _Not feeling much _*_Ikuyo!_* edit: _eeeeeh..._ didn't comment about the reduction on Barbara's Q size (from 200m to 30m) on 3.7... This nerf was *BIG!* _ahahah~_
@dracuella
@dracuella 10 ай бұрын
Watching these videos makes me realise there is a lot of stuff I don't know about my characters and how their kits work. I feel so educated.
@TravelerSaniar
@TravelerSaniar Жыл бұрын
So this video was mostly related to elemental reactions. We recently got a huge range nerf for barbara's burst (this literally happened on her birthday)
@augustomoreiraaguiar6782
@augustomoreiraaguiar6782 10 ай бұрын
About the burning reaction, I think they did it to make burgeon more viable. If you had that much pyro, it would spend too much of hydro application and tone down the seed generation.
@The_Obsolete_Cow
@The_Obsolete_Cow 11 ай бұрын
Thought you would’ve mentioned the EM snapshot nerf that (if i remember correctly) came about to stop sucrose supporting Kazuha
@berganera125
@berganera125 11 ай бұрын
I remember yae & dehya was supposed to be way better in the beta but they nerfed it to the abyss on release
@SoilworkWT
@SoilworkWT Жыл бұрын
20:38, that bell got me ngl
@m4sterred853
@m4sterred853 Жыл бұрын
One nerf/bugfix I’ll never forgive HoYo for doing is removing Keqing Lyre Warp.
@frostblitzxdkartoffelliebh6081
@frostblitzxdkartoffelliebh6081 10 ай бұрын
I started playing at the end of 2.4/start of 2.5 and this video was very interesting to me. I’m AR59 now, but I still didn’t know a lot of these nerfs. Kinda sad, since a lot of sounded really fun to play with. Btw, I have a question about the burning one. Could they have nerfed it because, burning being too powerful could eventually hurt the player?? I mean, you can easily kill a character with Nahida, when they’re standing beside a campfire…so it maybe it would made burning a lot of harder to play with…
@termina2737
@termina2737 Жыл бұрын
The entire Geo element?
@brianrauch2770
@brianrauch2770 11 ай бұрын
I used a burning reaction as soon as I had Kazuha to swirl the pyro on burning grass. I would have a Kazuha, Fischl, Xangling, and another electro character a healer or hydro character to trigger vaporize. I would drop guoba to burn the grass and apply pyro to enemy’s then I’d have Fischl triggering overload and Kazuha would use his E (which I got to have an absurdly reduced cooldown) to repeatedly swirl electro and pyro. Can you not do that anymore?
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