The Bizarre Story of the Girl Who Claimed to be Sappho Reincarnated
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In 1920, Juanita Clivette made the highly publicized claim that she was Sappho reincarnated. But the story goes deeper than that. Come learn with me about a whimsical and convoluted hoax!
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Sources:
Sappho in Early Modern England: Female Same-Sex Literary Erotics, 1550-1714 By Harriette Andreadis
The Authenticity of the Letter of Sappho to Phaon (Heroides XV) by R. J. Tarrant
The Richmond Times Dispatch, September 12, 1920
The Lost Clivette "Bazaar de Junk" - 1 Sheridan Square daytoninmanhattan.blogspot.com...
Garrets and Pretenders: Bohemian Life in America from Poe to Kerouac by Albert Parry
www.clivette.com/
The Sapho Affair by Don Gillan, www.stagebeauty.net/th-frames....
Sappho: Overview by Jelena Krstovic
’Sleeping in the Bosom of a Tender Companion’: Homoerotic Attachments in Sappho by Anne L. Klinck
Traffic in Scandal: The Story of Broadway Brevities by Will Straw
Berkeley Daily Gazette, July 13, 1920
The Cincinnati Commercial Tribune, March 23, 1924
The Ogden Standard Examiner, May 17, 1925
The Sioux City Sunday Journal, March 23, 1925
Azoth Magazine, December 1920
The Quill, May 1924
Homosexuality in Renaissance and Enlightenment England, Janel Mueller
“DOC mystery photo 3: Correction Hospital 1931 Staff.” Thomas C. McCarthy www.correctionhistory.org/html...
Surpassing the Love of Men by Lillian Faderman
Gay New York by George Chauncey
Fictions of Sappho, 1546-1937 by Joan E. DeJean
Modern Temper: American Culture and Society in the 1920s by Lynn Dumenil
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Museum of the City of New York
Library of Congress
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@KazRowe 2 жыл бұрын
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@victorrossi2601 2 жыл бұрын
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@ninabetz5969 2 жыл бұрын
Pls talk about Marlene Dietrich the german faboulas gay anti nazi actress
@helenamirian908 2 жыл бұрын
How is June supposed to concentrate on fighting crime when she has just lost her sister?!?!
@2msvalkyrie529 2 жыл бұрын
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@ClarissaMaeDme 9 ай бұрын
@@ninabetz5969yyy Ty lf😊yy
@maristiller4033 2 жыл бұрын
Kaz: A woman claimed to be the reincarnation of Sappho Me: Hm yes makes sense… Kaz: She said Sappho killed herself for the love of a man. Me: Ok now ya lost me.
@leahdavis9434 2 жыл бұрын
Sappho was bisexual but yeah seems sus
@maristiller4033 2 жыл бұрын
@@leahdavis9434 Oh was she really? I didn't know that
@nycdyke2867 2 жыл бұрын
@@leahdavis9434 great now I’m in love with whoever she is
@DKF_oli 2 жыл бұрын
@@maristiller4033 I totally thought she was lesbian not bi- but I’m admittedly not particularly knowledgeable on the topic
@maristiller4033 2 жыл бұрын
@@DKF_oli yeah I mean it's nearly impossible to know the exact sexuality of people who lived a century ago much less thousands of years ago. It'd be cool either way, though, just having a wlw poet in history ya know, out there lovin' women
@basementdwellercosplay 2 жыл бұрын
She lost me when she tried to call Sappho was straight
@jungtothehuimang 2 жыл бұрын
Same that's where the delusion ended for me I knew she was making things up then
@saganc.4090 2 жыл бұрын
you've never read the source text, have you?
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy Жыл бұрын
@@saganc.4090 well Sappho is part of the origin of the words “ sapphic” and “lesbain”, because she lived on the island of lesbos and wrote stuff that implied she had romantic interests with woman. People tried to hide that in her writing, and she could have also been into men. I bet she was bi at the very least.
@lamb2004 Жыл бұрын
@@saganc.4090 why do you think her work was most destroyed after christianity came along? even the fragments of her remaining poems are pretty obvious showing her attraction and affection towards them. there’s no denying that she’s not straight.
@Hecateofcrossroads Жыл бұрын
@@livvyyyyyyyyyyy there is a poem like her one that says Aphrodite struck her with love for a woman but it says boy not sure if she changed it to please her audience or if she felt love for a man
@_malroth 2 жыл бұрын
the original kinnie
@belleyelena7720 2 жыл бұрын
can't believe she was born with kin memories 🤔
@ninia4316 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@im19ice3 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@celery8059 2 жыл бұрын
She was basically writing sapho fanfics too
@sweetestaphrodite Жыл бұрын
wait, who’s that?
@TheBaron75 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the current reincarnation of Sapho. Unfortunately I'm a 45 year old dude who doesn't really like poetry so it's bad news for everybody. Maybe next time round.
@NorthernGreenEyes 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 😁
@TrueFork 2 жыл бұрын
When I was still a young vampire in Alexandria I liked Sappho's poems so I wrote them all down from memory after they were lost. I did this twice, but you mortals burned them again each time so I don't bother anymore
@MelissaThompson432 2 жыл бұрын
I wrote them. Sappho copied them off me. Plagiarist. 😠
@chapablo 10 ай бұрын
Hey, they all can’t be winners.
@jungtothehuimang 2 жыл бұрын
This feels exactly like those fake twitter & FB posts where some mom is like "my 8 year old just came to me and said *insert complex topic here*" it's good to know in like 100,000 year of humans existing we really have always been the same and that times change but we really don't.
@ericme4767 Жыл бұрын
Also loved how the poem in the end was like Sappho of lesbos meets Emily Dickinson.
@DaughtersofOrion Жыл бұрын
Or the gorilla using sign language to warn humanity abt recycling (it was a marketing ploy) 😂
@RealNormHall 4 ай бұрын
@@DaughtersofOrionyou just ruined smth fundamental to my happiness, I hope you’re happy with yourself smh
@LonelyDistance 2 жыл бұрын
"the flapper spirit" Ah yes, gin.
@ars3n1cc_sys 2 жыл бұрын
✨and all that jazz✨
@SombreroPharoah 5 ай бұрын
Both yours and the reply comment are by *far* the best in here! 😂
@RaphaelleLD 2 жыл бұрын
that indictment is giving very much "trying to hit the word count on an essay" 💀
@error4159 2 жыл бұрын
Or they made it so long in order to get lunch.
@NorthernGreenEyes 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! 🤣🤣 🧐📝
@eazy8579 2 жыл бұрын
Why, good sir, you must tell me more about this, what it’s about, and where I can find it, that way I can avoid it at all costs!
@hannahl8 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see the hoax as entirely "harmless" I mean, her parents forcing her to live this sham life from such a young age, not able to be herself, must've seriously messed her up.
@saragarofano6471 2 жыл бұрын
That's abuse.
@im19ice3 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like her parents would've fucked her up regardless, not that its ok, i'm just saying it sounds like the cherry on top of a banana split of trauma to me
@Prizzlesticks 2 жыл бұрын
The OG Disney child star. :O
@Rae-oj3fm Жыл бұрын
Ehh maybe not I’m sure everyone was messed up back then lol
@SombreroPharoah 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure she was given laudenum and probably didn't care too much. They had a better day didn't they... :(
@Otra_Chica_de_Internet 2 жыл бұрын
Girl: "I loved Phaon but he did not love me back" Me: a mAN?
@sammyvictors2603 2 жыл бұрын
She could have been bi But that Phaon story sounds purely mythical.
@skjensk5683 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammyvictors2603 yeah Sappho was actually bi
@sammyvictors2603 2 жыл бұрын
@@skjensk5683 Bisexuality was pretty much a common thing in ancient Greece, even most of the Greek pantheon were bi. Though Phaon story sounds mythical (the story went that Aphrodite sailed in his ferry), he might have been based on a real dude, and I theorize that Sappho may have had a fling with him but wasn't crazy about him, and that he got upset that he probably made up the story to get back at her for bruising his ego. Funny thing though, in the story, he got so promiscuous that he was killed by jealous husbands/boyfriends.
@GothelGrigore 2 жыл бұрын
Are you tryna say that men aren’t capable of not liking some women? 😂
@Otra_Chica_de_Internet 2 жыл бұрын
@@GothelGrigore no it's because it's commonly believed that Shappho was a lesbian
@ruliak 2 жыл бұрын
This has the same energy as those facebook mom stories where the kid is like 2 and says "Mother, I am quite chilly...but I will be even colder when the polar ice caps melt and consume us all." Little Kaiyleighanne is so smart!! 😭😭
@fp8688 2 жыл бұрын
It would be hot if ice caps were melting
@ruliak 2 жыл бұрын
@@fp8688 not when the ice age hits baby!!
@AntediluvianRomance 2 жыл бұрын
@@fp8688 Ice caps would be hot, but the dead bodies would stay the same temperature as the water around. *tragic sounds*
@GothelGrigore 2 жыл бұрын
My child just told me that she thinks technology is very bad and corrupting her fellow youth. Totally wasn’t my boomer self pretending that she said that
@NorthernGreenEyes 2 жыл бұрын
@@AntediluvianRomance Le gasp! 😯
@lucapill48 2 жыл бұрын
what the jury says : lewd, indecent, obscene, filthy, scandalous and disgusting. what i hear: Talented, Brilliant, Incredible, Amazing, Showstopping, Spectacular, Never The Same, Totally Unique, Completely Not Ever Been Done Before,
@NorthernGreenEyes 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed!!
@eazy8579 2 жыл бұрын
Why, good sir, you must tell me more about this, what it’s about, and where I can find it, that way I can avoid it at all costs!
@tirsden Жыл бұрын
Considering how many times they repeated those words, it's almost obsessive... like, they were getting off on it. Hmmm.
@tompatterson1548 Жыл бұрын
lewd, indecent, obscene, filthy, scandalous and disgusting, also repeating itself so many times it is funny.
@carolinekopack3872 2 жыл бұрын
Girl: [claims to be Sappho’s modern reincarnation] Me: Good for her!
@anaisnintuition 2 жыл бұрын
💖💖💖
@aj3811 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone confused about sapphos sexuality: Sappho being in love with phaon was likely a joke made by other poets/writers of the era, representing the story of Aphrodite chasing the sun god on his chariot into the sea. Since sappho wrote a lot about Aphrodite, this makes sense. Also, sappho used gender neutral or feminine terms to describe the people she was in love with in her poems. The gender neutral terms could have been to disguise her love for women, or to describe men. No one really knows since translators who don't want her to be gay have changed the wording in English. So she could be bi, but there is no solid proof she liked men. Regardless, she loved women and the labels don't really matter that much.
@georgeharrisonfricklas7927 Жыл бұрын
She was married to "guy" from "penis island" i love her
@andeverytimewekiss Жыл бұрын
She also wouldn’t have had the same concept of sexuality we have today, so trying to pin a modern identity on her is almost counterproductive. But it is safe to say she was interested in women romantically (not just gal pals with a bunch of women)
@eneyavorodecky Жыл бұрын
Well, I agree and don't. "labels don't matter that much", to whom is that they don't matter? People who never knew the words and never knew they existed, so others like them existed and they were not alone or weird or something wrong with them? Or to those who want to deny the existence of things they dislike? Mentioning her being bi is interesting considering how strong biphobia is. This is not an argument with you that much but more of a reminder that in fact labels do matter and they can be very needed and useful sometimes.
@femboy__bunny Жыл бұрын
Greek people didn’t have the same notions of sexuality we do. A sex act was something you *did* not something that you identified with and clung to. Sexuality seems more fluid in Ancient Greece. I’m a gay dude, and I’ve studied Ancient Greece since I was very young.
@catcheek7761 Жыл бұрын
Thank you because I was so confused for a moment. Because all I’d ever heard of is Sappho having romantic feelings towards women talking about people with very feminine terms.
@timothymclean 2 жыл бұрын
"Ma'am, you can just say you're a lesbian." "No I can't, it's the 1920's." "Fair point. Have a good day, Sappho."
@auggieb2681 2 жыл бұрын
As a Buddhist who kinda believes in reincarnation I was so ready to believe this but when she said Sappho was straight, she lost me.
@milascave2 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. But, technically, Buddhists believe in rebirth, not reincarnation. A lifelong Teravaden monk put it this way "We Buddhists do not believe in reincarnation, because we do not believe in incarnation in the first place. Incaracrnation, related to the word carne, meaning meat, refers to the soul entering flesh. But since we do not believe in a fixed eternal soul, we do not believe that". Yea, it's complicated, not to mention off topic, so I won't go on.
@amelieclaire706 2 жыл бұрын
@@milascave2 you’re literally trying to correct someone on their own religion 😑
@gothicavictoria1341 2 жыл бұрын
@@milascave2 You do know that Buddhism isn't just one giant umbrella of religion, right? There are different sects, traditions, etc. You can't really point out what one particular monk had to say on the subject and pat yourself on the back for trying to correct somebody else's religion. Why?
@cyrilmarasigan7108 2 жыл бұрын
@@milascave2 Actually in Japan there is another type of buddhism or another branch of it
@dylantennant6594 Жыл бұрын
I’m pagan, and I believe in reincarnation, and I honestly think that Hades and Persephone would give her a second go at life. But I would be shocked if they call her straight in any life.
@samantha.redacted 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious for her mom, knowing that Juanita was not actually Sappho, telling Juanita that it was the “flapper spirit” making her love Ernst
@babbybobabs8701 Жыл бұрын
maybe your daughter is just making a hasty choice because she's young and it happens to most everyone lmao. did you think of that?
@q1s2e3w 11 ай бұрын
@@babbybobabs8701 i know this is an old post but that’s actually exactly what the “flapper spirit” comment means! i didn’t catch what year this is set in but if it was before the mid 1920s “flapper” essentially just meant “a young/teenage girl trying to act older and more sophisticated than she actually is” (like a baby bird flapping its wings and trying but failing to fly).
@takumidoutou4412 2 жыл бұрын
They lost me when they talked about Sappho liking men
@theodore2487 2 жыл бұрын
I mean she was bi but c’mon, why are they tryna frame her as heterosexual, I WANT TO SEE SOME GOOD WLW SHIT FROM A SAPPHO PRETENDER!
@RedRosemary 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodore2487 she was lesbain because there's no trusted proof that she liked men.
@theodore2487 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedRosemary Ok, thanks for clearing up my confusion ^^!
@voidify3 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedRosemary the “Aphrodite has overcome me with longing for a girl” quote actually used a gender neutral word for a youth
@judihatemmoharramjudihatem6713 2 жыл бұрын
@@voidify3 This was the same rhetoric that was used by conservative translators . By your logic,she was most likely straight . The majority of women happen to be such. It's misogyny to claim any lesbian historical figure as bisexual just because she "resonates "with you.
@user-iu7nv1fj4b 2 жыл бұрын
the statement for the play issued by the court seems so hilarious over a century later, it's crazy to think the public may have actually taken it seriously
@NorthernGreenEyes 2 жыл бұрын
It really is comical! 😅 *Pictured frenzied writing*
@isabelr3467 2 жыл бұрын
the story about baby juanita telling her parents she's the reincarnation of sappho sounds like those tweets where parents claim their five year old made some deep speech to them
@madsh9038 2 жыл бұрын
“Using heterosexuality to further punish her” 🤯 ugh tragically such a good analysis
@Mavisdundundunnnmanston 2 жыл бұрын
History: everything and everyone was super cis. Super super cis.
@alexayanavich5209 2 жыл бұрын
super sus
@teslaemployee4446 Жыл бұрын
Straight as this line ~~~~~~~~~~
@soyjoyy Жыл бұрын
Didn't you know that gays and trans were invented in 1960s by communist Jews to further push leftist-feminist propaganda in order to oppress heterosexual white males and strip them off their masculinity? Silly you, of course before that everyone in history was cis and straight. Sarcasm by the way (just in case anyone gets confused)
@JesusAteMyFries 2 жыл бұрын
Parents give big Gruncle Stan vibes
@utuisuus 2 жыл бұрын
i’m just like sappho but instead of being a historical figure and a great poet i’m gay
@thebrutusmars Жыл бұрын
Nice! I’m also just like Sappho but instead of being a historical figure, a great poet, gay, or a woman…I’m often portrayed as having dark hair.
@teslaemployee4446 Жыл бұрын
Oh I'm like Sappho because I like poetry but I'm not a lesbian and I'm just a shy kid with like 2 friends
@sardine1324 2 жыл бұрын
bro why is every video such a banger, you're such a good storyteller
@seraphjohanson3402 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of “Theon” (no idea if that’s the correct spelling) and it’s just… INSANE to me that anyone ever thought Sappho went straight. Just. No.
@brakejanco 2 жыл бұрын
"Going straight" is a comforting idea to the closeted lesbians and gays.
@beep3242 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, she could have been bi, so the two ideas (her liking women and liking Pheon) aren't inherently contradictory. But I understand what you mean.
@EmissaryofWind 2 жыл бұрын
I keep seeing "Sappho was actually bi!" posts and the only two pieces of evidence are... Phaon who was made up centuries after her death, and the apparent claim that she married a Kerkylas of Andros aka "Dick Allcocks from Man Island". Real compelling stuff here.
@ayajade6683 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmissaryofWind I've seen a scholar who specialized in ancient literature suggest it might be a pseudonym, a mistranslation of a cultural idiom, a phrase that was slang but translates weird when literal,or a combo of them.
@KazzieBB 2 жыл бұрын
Dude.."Phaon" is shown onscreen multiple times. AND its in the captions
@nobodyofimprotance7615 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I live in New York so I have some important information: Greenwich is currently one of the main gay centers of the city.
@anniel6479 2 жыл бұрын
Sappho would be proud!
@victoriadiesattheend.8478 2 жыл бұрын
I too live in NYC. Can vouch
@krystanoelll 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows you should never piss off a Thomas Paine stan
@mallarieanderson6439 2 жыл бұрын
On board from the moment of the Bear’s Big Blue House reference
@jh5401 2 жыл бұрын
YESS
@NorthernGreenEyes 2 жыл бұрын
Awe I miss that show! My kiddo who's now an adult watched that
@iseetheendisnear2416 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine coming out as a reincarnation of Sappho
@cowboymice 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content, the reasons so is because: •you seem like a genuine person •you’re funny •i love history :) also i really want to be smart like you when i grow up
@sardine1324 2 жыл бұрын
babe wake up new kaz video dropped
@AveryTalksAboutStuff 2 жыл бұрын
✨Tutter from Bear in the Big Blue House supremacy ✨
@universe514 2 жыл бұрын
15:30 that’s it, i’ll be the new hero for gay love of women. i have so much gay love for women therefore i am the perfect candidate. now flock to me, ladies!
@lumatears4533 2 жыл бұрын
the yves pic rly tops it off
@universe514 2 жыл бұрын
@@lumatears4533 She Understand
@odetocalliope3290 2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely check out Renée Vivien!! She was a british poet who wrote in French, and also claimed to be a reincarnation of Sappho! Her really old lesbian portraits are really famous but people often forget she’s the one behind them. She visited Lesbos once and wrote a lot about it, said she was able to walk through the path of her old self and pay homage to her own old soul. A very brilliant mind and poet! If I remember correctly she also helped repopularise the use of the violet as modern lesbian coding!
@joz- 2 жыл бұрын
These parents would family vloggers today
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
Juanita was a very talented writer. Juanita's mother claimed that Juanita was the reincarnation of the Greek goddess to make money on Juanita as a circus attraction.
@makdm2405 2 жыл бұрын
What I first imagined was "You see, I don't waaaaant to be a lesbian, I am forced by the spirit of Sappho, oh well, too late to be born yet again"
@monstercockie 2 жыл бұрын
19:39 my god, that quote has so many adjectives that I have no idea of what actually happened xD
@TheAlexR96 2 жыл бұрын
Aka me when I have to reach a wordcount
@SonjaPond 2 жыл бұрын
Aw I was hoping this story would be gayer... but it was still very entertaining! 😄🌈
@NorthernGreenEyes 2 жыл бұрын
Haha "gayer" 😄
@jumalAnni 2 жыл бұрын
Running a girls' school thing was also an educated guess, actually a 19th-century theory to whitewash Sappho as a non-lesbian. According to that, her songs about missing girls were about missing the graduates in whom she had mostly pedagogical interest and she had a habit of writing epithalamions (wedding songs) as parting gifts because the school was supposed to prepare girls for marital life. "Like what kind of parent would send their child to such a shady person?" However, I kinda remember speculations that the school was supposed to teach how to please men in bed too or that there were songs to wake up the students' sensuality or sth. Of course, as she was a creative person, the speculation that she had a few students/protegées is not far-fetched at all. The most fun fake fact of ancient origin is that Sappho was married to a man called Kerlylas of Andros (basically Dick from the Isle of Man). I personally think she was bisexual in practice because that was the nature of the ancient world and she was a noblewoman (because she was educated and into arete in her songs).
@drugbuddy665 2 жыл бұрын
i honestly saw the thumbnail and thought "jesus, are we still going nuts at every troll post on tumble?" lmfao. it really is eternal
@anaisf718 Жыл бұрын
It’s always “I’m Sappho the fabulous and tragically romantic poet” and never “I’m a nobody peasant that died at 26 of dysentery”
@Jumawi1999 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how well the subtitles are done. Not many long videos have complete subtitles this soon!
@sweetpeabee4983 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very cool watch, thank you! Since we're sharing reincarnation stories, I had a dream once that I was a man who wore suspenders and played fiddle at barn dances in a past life.
@rd6203 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds awesome!!
@spy6205 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I found your channel. I find the way you tell stories so captivating and your voice is so soothing. I’ve watched every one of your videos and always look forward to what you’re gonna make next. Hope you’re having a great day
@WhaleManMan 2 жыл бұрын
Getting engaged on the spot? Come on. If the real Sappho saw a boy she loved from afar, she would have wrote a whole poem about how she was about to die.
@Kittykat81572 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I found you. I’ve been nonstop telling people about your Bram Stoker video, I had absolutely no idea. I love all your contact and I’m so glad you have a sponsor!!
@holocoffin 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a past life I was probably a bunch of mushrooms just chilling in the forest. I hope I can return to that when I leave this life.
@delphinea.2848 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 8 seconds into the video and I just have to comment that your eye makeup looks absolutely stunning!
@catbarfus4251 2 жыл бұрын
The Phaon thing made me pull out my copy of Sappho and the most I could find about men in general were a handful of poems about the trojan war and male gods there were 2 poems I found that mention attraction towards men both of which were from her earlier work and the latest of the poems (that she herself wrote) I could find was about the beauty of the sun. I also found Ovids little mistake in the section labeled "wrongly attributed to Sappho". "May you sleep on your tender girlfriend's breasts"- Sappho
@kaamn1829 2 жыл бұрын
17:42 me when someone drops an ice cube and left it on the floor and I step on it in my socks:
@lavenderlylin 2 жыл бұрын
Take a shot whenever the cis deny Sappho of her homosexuality and something is defined as “lewd” “disgusting” or “indecent”
@Rachel-fi4sc Жыл бұрын
Don't do this. You will die. Alcohol poisoning is an asshole like that.
@lavenderlylin Жыл бұрын
@@Rachel-fi4sc my life goal
@L3onking 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Vedic shaman, and there's common trends to reincarnation that doesn't support this claim but they might have used the wrong term. I suspect that Juanita could possibly be a medium who channeled the Sappho escort and not the poet. In her mother's "Flapper" rant, she may have been commenting on Juanita channeling the wrong Sappho, hence the exorcism comment. As channeling is akin to puppetry, promoting Juanita as a medium when the parents were already a dynamic duo wouldn't turn as many heads compared to the steady income as a writer. More importantly, from what I've experienced Spirits tends to reincarnate within the same bloodline they once came from (if they really like their family). Also picking the same bloodline is like autofill when putting in the address. Most spirits will be drawn to those they resonate with, so friends can become family in one life. There's a case of twins who passed tragically and the mother giving birth to a second set of twins who behaved like their passed sisters. Shanti Devi is the most well known studied case of reincarnation. The whole point of reincarnation is to give solace that we can choose to spin the wheel again. (And hopefully the gods can fix this late stage capitalism shenaniganery)
@thefoxandthehound81 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
I believe in Spirituality. Your explanation is very interesting.
@L3onking 2 жыл бұрын
@@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 The biggest breadcrumb that the mother knew her daughter was channeling a spirit is the "flapper" comment as she essentially was demanding her daughter channel the correct Sappho however if the household was homophobic the true spirit of Sappho couldn't even be invited into that house by most mediums. I just feel so bad for this girl who was abused like most child entertainers and forced to lose her childhood for the financial well-being of the family. Medium or not, it's a shitty thing to do to a child.
@brakejanco 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't make sense that spirits would reincarnate into the same bloodline. Maybe if the soul is trapped in a cycle of karma that requires them to confront personal bias and a system of oppression, then I could see that. I believe our souls chose lives that will benefit their spiritual development the best. Often times that means expanding far beyond what the previous life knew. Reincarnation into the same bloodline seems kind of classist, as many families get stuck at the same economic class for centuries even. To make things worse people try to justify that these families deserve to stay poor because of some nonsense excuse or another. To say spirits return to the same bloodline implies that one's spirit is trapped in the same economic class, which just doesn't make sense. Putting rules on reincarnation is really silly. Who are we to decide how our spirits reincarnate? This seems like a human construct like gender or class, as we likely can't understand the majority of the spiritual realm from the limits of human experience. Wouldn't it make more sense for our souls to roam and see all aspects of humanity instead of being more or less bound to the same bloodline? And who is to say that we must always reincarnate as humans, or even life on this planet? That just doesn't add up. This isn't even to mention all of the bloodlines that ended due to the decimation of populations, be it colonization or otherwise. It doesn't account for people who decide to not have or cannot have children. That would be many millions, if not billions, of spirits displaced.
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
@@L3onking I agreed with you.
@spookyaliens6286 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple gal, I see Kaz I click
@IsaacLouisDV 2 жыл бұрын
Robespierre did actually have his last meal in the basement. I would know, I'm his reincarnation.
@alexisc1474 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this topic. On a different note: i thought i was listening to one of my ASMRists bc you look vaguely similar to her but i couldn't fall asleep to this bc it was so fasinating.
@congruentcrib 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I never got about reincarnation is why do people identify as the most famous ‘past life’? Why does she identify as Sappho and not Juanita, or Mary the store Klerk in some supermarket. Along with that, how does time work; is it instant or is there a potential limbo where you wait, is time linear and only goes one way. Where did all the souls come from? Is there a long line like the DMV for people awaiting access to the physical world?
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 2 жыл бұрын
For the attention.
@euansmith3699 2 жыл бұрын
Who was I in my past life? I'm not even sure who I am in this life. 🤔 Thank you for another snappy, informative and entertaining video.
@thepandoricaoffandomsbacku7349 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like one of those bots on ig who write you a dm saying they are some long dead celebrity waiting to come back, except you need to pay huge money to help them
@AmnesiacCa3sar 2 жыл бұрын
in my past life i was unknown man who died eating library paste
@jessicathorp9332 2 жыл бұрын
This was a WILD ride of a story. Thanks for creating such well-researched and thorough videos. I'm a theatre historian and really appreciate what you do!
@pasqualilebowitz7866 2 жыл бұрын
In a past life, I was that one toad that scared an entire village cuz I was so pissed off that I fell down a well that I screamed and the echo made people think a banshee was in the well lmao
@mb-zx4hl 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe Kaz actually got a sponsorship! we love to see you grow🥺
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
A very imaginative family.
@emmakaufman1866 2 жыл бұрын
i remember the flapper spirit from hill house
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy Жыл бұрын
How can she claim Sappho was straight. She’s literally part of the origin of the words “lesbian” and “Sappho”. Maybe she liked multiple genders, but her poetry implies she certainly liked woman.
@Lady_Chalk 2 жыл бұрын
Well, then. I’ve learned more of Sappho than what I’ve been told. Good job 👍
@countnu4166 3 ай бұрын
when you said "it was a way for them to feel at home in a world that wanted to deny them their existence", i LITERALLY got choked up. That line slapped me in the face.
@bunnyshoes893 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna make the ultimate power move: I was her in a past life
@elizavetaromanova9650 2 жыл бұрын
Love your essays, thanks!
@MrsZwusel 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, this is a really Great video. Just marvellous! But the icing on the cake for me is the apperance of Claude Cahun and Marcel Moore. Just Last year I wrote my thesis about Cahuns work and I‘m thrilled you mentioned her since she‘s so greatly unknown and underrated.
@stevieromero4275 2 жыл бұрын
So glad i found you on here your a breath of fresh air ty!
@strana6875 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve literally just found your channel two hours ago, and I’ll tell you I have been binging it nonstop since then! Would you ever consider opening a Patreon?
@WitchRapture 2 жыл бұрын
I literally was just watching your youtube videos, I love your content so much and I can't get enough!!
@katthatsmilesback 2 жыл бұрын
Love all of your videos, and always awaiting for more :)). I’m glad I could make it early today! Thanks for always making thoughtful, thorough, and engaging historical content ❤️
@alicejane7361 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh I’m so happy I found this channel! Your content is so well researched and the stories are always so interesting. Love it ❤️❤️❤️
@savsol5607 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I love your content it’s just really fascinating and the way you structure everything is super entertaining. I hope you’re doing well!
@rscull210 8 ай бұрын
The image at 10:34 has me DYING, my exact face the whole time you were reading that crazy ass quote
@LenaBear1998 2 жыл бұрын
You are so well spoken it was an absolute joy to watch and listen , keep up the great work
@isabelleoliver1881 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of stories all around the world like this. Kids being barely able to talk, but knowing really specific details of their “past lives”. Sometimes leading parents and authorities to their old family members, their murderers, and sometimes dead bodies. Its absolutely insane there’s a lot of books about it
@isabelleoliver1881 2 жыл бұрын
Despite it being untrue i mean, maybe that’s what the family was inspired by
@hotchocohoe3439 2 жыл бұрын
that whole story feels like a fan fiction
@victoriadiesattheend.8478 2 жыл бұрын
Was just rewatching some of your videos today ❤ thank you so much for the upload 🌻
@alanchristensen5735 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for enlightening me. I genuinely enjoy learning more about these often forgotten historical figures.
@kendrahrhinaye8042 Жыл бұрын
I always have KZfaq playing on shuffle while I’m asleep. I woke up randomly in the middle of the night and your videos were playing. I subscribed so fast 😂💞
@jvaughndaniels3062 Жыл бұрын
You brighten up my day
@hiswattsonn 2 жыл бұрын
i recently found your videos (recently=yesterday) and i’ve since watched every single one😂i love them so much also your hair is amazing 💕thank you for the effort you put into these videos
@KelciaMarie1 2 жыл бұрын
I see sapho content, I click
@jessicalotz9336 2 жыл бұрын
Hi :) i love ur cadence and choice of words... Its so nice to listen to :)
@veg2489 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a lesbian and this is insane!! I have to watch it later though :)
@devinbaggs7542 2 жыл бұрын
I love your storytelling style. MOAR PLEESE
@anadomingo5327 2 жыл бұрын
You are such a good narrator i love your voice!:
@hamzah5408 Жыл бұрын
i love it when you tell stories Kaz!!!!
@Kate-uq7kx 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE the eyeshadow and wings the ✨look✨ is breath taking ❤️❤️❤️
@niamh7047 2 жыл бұрын
Love all of your videos so much! Also the Lesbos of Paris sounds amazing
@babyblue3717 2 жыл бұрын
I'm patiently waiting for when you blow up. You deserve it so much!! This video is amazing and so well-made, you're such a great story teller. Keep doing these videos, you're amazing!!
@cowboymice 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@juanitacarrollyoung2979 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this discussion!! Seriously, though, it's kind of cool to hear my name disclaimed over and over again 💋 Perhaps I'm reincarnated from this previous, illustrious Juanita? In fact, my grandma born in the 1920's was "Alma Juanita" and my aunt was "Juanita," whom I am named for. They were working class people from the Ozarks and then St. Louis. My grandma married a bluegrass fiddler and had eleven kids. My Aunt Juanita worked at Woolworths. On second thought, I'm proud to be THEIR personification on this planet ❤👄
@mintjaan 2 жыл бұрын
The two Sapphos fused to make one stronger Sappho.
@crystalpetal25 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way you tell stories
@emilyjoy777 2 жыл бұрын
love love love this channel so much! I’m glad you’re starting to gain well-deserved traction! Obviously after watching I have to assume I, too, was Sappho in a past life.
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