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Of course, our government will leave them behind, in tact, with the keys in them!!!

They cannot fly them, they will sell them to china or Russia... who knows.

@@dundeeecroc they may be able to fly them, as the US trained the Afghan army to fly them, and many defected to the Taliban. What they may not be able to do is maintain them.

@@nigeljohnson9820 . They can maintain them. China can built copy of Blackhawk include the components.

@@samahmadoke8704 not sure if Chinese components will prove that reliable, but it is ironic than the Taliban are so willing to cooperate and befriend the non believer atheist Chinese. It will be interesting to see how they deal with a host of "Chinese advisors". When they come to take Afghan natural resources.

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Amen

Good deal the Heuy was an amazing machine! Glad to see they are still around!

@@shilohgardner There is a some saying in the US military...Cant remember when I came across it.. But it goes... When they fly the Blackhawks to the boneyard.. They will fly home in a Huey!!!

Huh, I see it the other way around. The coaxial design seems more capable of the heavy lift role than the Valor, while the Valor has the speed and enough maneuverability to do quick in and out missions

Defiant is better for both those roles. If the Valor has high speed use of its design as the claim states, it might be an amazing platform for killing jets. Cheaper in its role than needing the bestest jets.

@@lostpony4885 What? like kill the use of jets or gain superiority over them in combat? Because it could do neither. 1- this is a "jet". 2- turbines are used for a multitude of reasons.

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@@midgetman4206 Valor all the way unless the flight per hour and cost is an issue. It does seem huge though, but I firmly believe tilt rotors are the future of VTOL due to physics. I did think it would go faster to be honest.

Well when you think about how fast the taliban took over you need to consider the fact that we didn't control as much land as the media led us to believe. We'd been reducing our forces for several years and every time we reduced, the taliban regained ground. They mostly stayed out of the major cities but they were there just waiting outside. When we finally pulled out they didn't have to retake the entire country because they already owned most of it. They just moved into the last few cities. And when the Afghan government tucked tail and ran it was over.

@@PlutozReal , I agree that the military did not have as much control as public thought. This was really costly for a lot of people and I don't know why the US did not get out of Afghanistan earlier. The military also was responsible for a lot of civilian casualties. Some of this is just coming to light now and the New York Times and the Daily podcast have done a good job at holding the military accountable with investigative journalism with rights under the freedom of information act.

@@SuperKillroy1 The problem with the afghanistan war was that it was a war where we attempted to change the enemy and win their hearts. Not defeat and destroy them. (not saying i advocate for such a thing) but when you go to war you must be prepared to destroy your enemy. Not talk to them and hope they understand you suddenly

Don't foget that our economy is bigger thatn the next 10 economies combined. As a percentage of GDP, we actually don't spend that much more than other countries.

Low ground support helicopters like the blackhawk are utterly useless in a conventional warfare doctrine against an enemy who's well equipped and trained. RPG's weren't so accurate and their shooters had poor experience, but have a TD section fire it's Karl Gustav on a blackhawk and it's going down. Like nothing screams more "useless spending" than this kind of helicopters. Atleast attack helo require guided, heat seeking missile or AA batteries to take down and is much more agile.

Thank you, but yet they are still allowed to make things

@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 They shouldn’t be though. Only after they get their own commercial aircraft situation rectified.

@@GNX157 Yes, but for how long

they can, not sure what your saying?

@@frufrufrufru1999 me?

It's to big . The other one looks better

I thought the same about the YF-23.

Farther, faster, and carries more. But Lockheed has more pull within the Pentagon.Valor should win, but for corruption, which usually wins.

Valor has too big of a footprint. In a carrier, space is at a premium. And when talking about jungle insertions, space is again at a premium. Landing Valor in the jungle needs one big ass clearing. The other one is more nimble, and user friendly. Opposing rotors are a better solution. In bad weather they are more stable. Valor is probably a bitch to fly in high winds.

@@Biden_is_demented Will this also be the replacement for Sea Kings and Stallions tho? These are Army replcements for Black Hawks...

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@@enderdude5000 ?

I have a really bad feeling they're going to choose the Bell which is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade

Enclosed weapons bays have their limits, which was one of the fatal flaws of the Comanche.

@@johnsteiner3417 Everything has it's limits... The RAH66 was canceled do to price.

That's why our enemies want to destroy us from the inside, turn us against each other And now we got politicians abusing our tax dollars, something's gotta change

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Yes we have a lot of guns in the USA but we are purchasing ammo from foreign countries 😀 😉

As much as I agree we need to focus more on our own people our own infrastructure our own borders it is very important with the competition to control and use AI and other such advanced techs all coming to reality that we are on top and competitive.

Keeping helicopters airworthy is really expensive, even just sitting there not being flown a helicopter's airworthiness declines much more quickly than other vehicles because of how they operate. Helicopters ride a fine line between being a useful tool and an absolute death trap based solely on how consistently and well they are maintained.

@@mysteriousfleas I’m looking at two rotors and dreading maintenance haha. I also imagine the area of operation of helicopters/Vto doesn’t help. They’re by nature landing where planes can’t go and low to the ground so all that dust dirt water just makes for even more regular maintenance.

The problem with the Blackhawk is that it has always been a "make-do" helicopter, there have been some extremely impressive variants over the years, but it was always the minimum viable choice, that and the thing crashes a lot. That may speak more to the fact that they're an overworked asset of the U.S military and there's only so far you can push that platform before newer technology must replace it for a greater margin of safety and performance. We're now entering an era where all modern military hardware is going to start looking really weird and sci-fi'esque, it no longer looks in the way we would picture military hardware, that is having coarse features and being ruggedly designed.

@@mysteriousfleas these designs reminded Tom Clancy's End War, seems to be heading into that direction

What made Bell UH iconic, it's sound...sound of aproach take off and landing... the iconic sound ''We are Here!!!'' What made Black Hawk iconic, its appearance...symbolizing ''We are Here!!!''...what made Apache iconic... dusing, unique set of instruments, gauges and weaponry combined in a single hull!!! And what you want to get know? Faster, fourther, stronger..))) I think I know this one!!! Both models in reality look like VIP transportation vertical take off and landing aircraft good enough for Presidential transportation only!!!

Inter-service procurement fights killed some great programs.

but the moneeyyyyyy

Are you going to pay for the extra one?

They'll be lucky to get one the way things are going

The issue is that it's more of a hassle to field, maintain and train for a wider variety of aircraft, which is why the army simply created a set of parameters and said, "Go," to competing contractors. I honestly think that Sikorsky generally does better in rotor wing design than Bell anyway, and so likely will win this round. NOTE: I'm not an expert on these either, but I've talked to people who flew and maintained helos in their militiary careers.

@@right-winglibertarian3896 We're 20+ trillion in debt. Let it ride until we inevitably collapse.

The V-22 Ospreys have an excellent service record, and the Valor is less complex than the Osprey. Drive shafts allow the 2nd engine to power the rotor of the failed engine incase a failure occurs.

@@generalrendar7290 Issue with Osprey /Valor is , that those are basically planes , and Air Force all ready killed AH-56 Cheyenne attack helicopter , cause it was to plane a like , I am sure that Defiant will win this one.

@@cookiesupervisor2211 by that logic, the Defiant and Raider are suped up versions of the Cheyenne so they are likely more vulnerable. The Cheyenne competed with the Warthog, which is why the Air Force killed it. Now that the Airforce wants to kill the Warthog and the fact that the Apache and Cobra were able to conduct ground support while not making the Warthog irrelevant has changed this view. Also remember that the Airforce already uses the Osprey and has high praise for it. There is no 12-14 man VTOL/STOL transport and utility aircraft that these vehicles will compete with in the Airforce so they are fine.

@@generalrendar7290 Military hardware is not acquired with logic , but rather politics , and there is civil politics and there are military politics , military politics care about budget , and Air Force now day in 21 century , is need for close support , cause there are no wars anymore where fighter jets fighting , this is reason why V22 was bought only by Marines , Navy & Air Force ... but not Army , do you think that is not weird ?

@@cookiesupervisor2211 I think that it had to do with the start and stop development process that the V-22 went through as to why the Army backed out. It was early in the development process. The Army is looking for Long Range in particular hence FLRAA. The Defiant may be a marginally better insertion vehicle, but it can't compete with Valor's range.

Too much maintenance

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Like clockwork. Eat your heart out taxpayers, this is where your money goes.

Good luck trying to keep them flying. They aint no toyota pickups that can be maintained with bubble gum. They will break and then be worthless. Nothing of importance was left behind.

@@wolfgangjr74 my brother was crew chief for 101st airborne spec-ops. Nightstalkers heli group out of FT Campbell KY through Iraq/Afganistan and other lesser known conflicts. They could potentially fly for a time, but yes, without parts or expertise they likely won't last long. However it still doesn't detract from the billions in other equipment, arms, armor, munitions, armored vehicles that are now in their hands. Our soldiers are now potential targets by our own weaponry in Taliban hands. Massive failure. Massive incompetence.

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@@gautambuddha147 exactly! And to mention that pentagon audit failure that quietly disappeared from pubic discourse. Conveniently a building containing many of said documents related to those audits just happens to fall directly into its own footprint in a nice and uniform fashion...at free fall speed...after having not been impacted by any aircraft :/ "they said pull it, so I said pull."

There is nothing beautiful about killing. Except for some of these people commenting.

nah it looks bloody ugly

... remember here in canberra ! ... macarthur rose garden ...

@@supremesupreme8474 yes of course.

Wasn't the Commanche discontinued due to it's cost?

Comanche Gold!

Lol! RIGHT! Well said Sir! It's not like 30% of ALL the money EVER printed by the US was last year & hyper inflation is rocketing down on us like the proverbial dropped piano ,eh ? Who the heck needs to eat, when we can feed our kids with B.S. patriotic rhetoric and exciting recruiting films!

Hey. Biden added all that into his Build back better. What? You think he forgot?

When China puts you in a permanent blackout those roads will come in handy. Plus you won’t need health insurance just a pilot

@@ChristoFreeze China has its own financial problems at present, with evergrand defaulting on its debts

Indeed, keep projecting power and fucking up developing countries that reject imperialism. Btw, haven't we seen Defiant X in Cyberpunk 2077?

:)

Yesss some one mentioned it...yeah what happened to that? i thought that was the future of helicopters....this one in the video feels like a step backward...

Yep that thing looked so good...

Too expensive, and it couldn't do what they said it could do. Rumsfeld killed it for good reason. Another Sgt. York program in the making, when the USSR was already history.

but its free. how much did we pay for it and it depreciated to zero really? what a great value to get military equipment at top dollar and it depreciates faster than a new car driven off the lot?

They've already lodged a complaint with the UN.

Not to worry! Old Joe believes in equity. the Tallyban will get the upgrade!

Now we won't have to spend money demilitarizing out of service choppers. We can just shoot them down when we inevitably invade again.

Agree completely. Great choices all around. It will cost plenty but I'd say it's worth it. The forces should be provided with the best available.

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@@enderdude5000.

Is a scout helicopter still needed in the drone era?

Maintenance is the big issue. For every hour of flight time there are several hours of maintenance. Trying to maintain 4 different model helicopters from different companies with different parts is going to be a logistics issue in terms of training (both flight and maintenance crews), parts supply and manufacturing and increase maintenance costs. Imo, this is potentially where the Defiant X and Raider X could win out. Does the Valor really do anything significantly better than the current production Ospreys? To me is seems more of a horizontal upgrade, one that isn't a real generational change that warrants the cost of replacement. Tilt rotor craft also have a must larger footprint which affects how and where they can be deployed, especially in today's urban conflicts. Just this year a black-hawk had to make an emergency landing in a roadway in Romania with little collateral damage (a few street lamps knocked over). There just isn't the same space for a tilt-rotor attempting the same landing. Defiant X and Raider X looks like they would simplify production, maintenance and training while also accomplishing their intended roles and fitting within the same operational scopes as their predecessors.

@slashd ever since Iran hacked into and stole a US spy drone, having a control point closer to the action is critical. Also if the war goes into megacities, or if satellites are targeted then you want to still be able to deliver ordinance.

@Rowrin well the Army doesn't use the Osprey, the Marines, Navy, and Airforce do. You also have to think about the next battle spaces at near-peer level. The Western Pacific and Eastern Europe. Maintenance is one factor in a sea of other logistics situations. FOB, operational footprint, combat capability, and range. The valor is a more compact, smoother flying, less Maintenance heavy transport. The Valor is far superior in my mind in the Pacific Theater whereas they are almost evenly matched in the Eastern European theater. Which is why I suggested having all 4 and completely replace the Apache and Blackhawk, and Kiowa. The Valor is a superior medivac, while I'd give the Defiant the edge in insertion.

@@generalrendar7290 The biggest advantages to the defiant that make me lean a little more towards it is the size, and lower maintenance costs. Also with already having the Osprey it wouldn't be far fetched to simply modify it and make an Army version. They're talking about all the branches using the Armies helicopters, might as well just ask for more ospreys for the Army and take the Defiant.

lol..yeah

The talibs would be doing the U.S a favor by flying them, helicopters are extremely expensive to keep flying, especially in the desert, it would be the surest way to kill themselves by flying them without expensive maintenance done.

@@mysteriousfleas Hehe. I know right. Let them. Although i doubt anything secret or above was actually left behind. Its the usual GQP scare tactics and story making otherwise called lies that made it bigger than it seems. The gear wasn't even worth to blow up for crying out loud.

Let the Taliban bankrupt themselves trying to keep them running in a desert environment. Why do you think the new systems have retractable weapon systems? Because of lessons learned in Iraq.

... naci canibale ... taliban ... cannibal ... mount giluwe new guinea the cave of skulls ...

As many as Joe Biden gives them. I’m sure he’ll get them a few when our other 85 billion in equipment is no good over there anymore.

Thank you for your service sir. God bless you and your family.

You know what the biggest joke on this video is? The military won't allow for cost overruns :) Yea, right. Contractors KNOW they can screw the taxpayers because the Military always pays for the over runs, no questions asked. Have you EVER heard of the military saying, "OK< cancel the contact then if you can't produce them for amount signed at CONTRACT". NOPE, they pay and pay and pay, look at the F-35. What a money pit that plane is. ALWAYS need more and more and more. Like if after you got you new car and they say, "Hey, send us another 10 grand because the car you ordered is going to cost more" and you would pay it.

Mr private 🇺🇸

In triplicate still.

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They already sold some to China so.

This is a universal truth.

I think it really depends on performance. If the newer aircraft are significantly better at the roles they're being used for, and increase in cost is worth it. Besides, the older craft are cheap now because the designs are so old. Sure, a new vehicle can't match the cost per unit of a vehicle nearing end of service, but if you compare the overall cost per vehicle across the entire lifetime of the design, it could tell a very different story. Especially when you take into account the better performance of the newer vehicles. The US military is not nearly as dominant technologically as it was even 10 years ago, you can't keep sticking with decades old designs if you want to stay ahead.

Yah. They should never have purchased the Blackhawk as they already had the cheeper and proven UH-1 Huey.

Drones and cheaper remote helicopters will be the future. Still need personnel transports though.

LOL! That was the FIRST thing that I thought, just seeing this headline.

That will cost a LOT of goats and opium

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Pathetic

Ok. Which foot pedal is the pitch direction. Hey been there and done that. You don't fool me Rangerette 101st and 82nd Airborne, Fort Benning GA.

world will have the apache , its just u.s. wont .

that Black Hawk and Apache will be in the philippines soon so it is still not impossible you can still see it

The Apache and Blackhawk fleets will not be completely replaced by the new aircraft. In fact, the Apache isn't being replaced at all. The FARA aircraft is filling the void left by the OH58D Kiowa Warrior, an armed reconnaissance aircraft. The Apache is not designed to recon like the purpose-built OH fleet.

the B-52 will outlive us all.... apache and a10 are babies compared to the granddad b52

Or a M1 Abrams Tank

Can I come for a spin? 🍻

@@KumaBean sure.

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You don't get it. They need those cost overruns. Defense projects exceeding the budget are not due to the project. It's to line up the pockets of our politicians corporate masters.

A-10 sucks should have been out of service decades ago also the V-22 osprey is not fit for this role as its huge and has major problems of its own

I agree completely. I spent 8 years in the Air Force, the Marines I worked with would refer to the V-22 Osprey as a flying deathtrap. Even though Valor has surely improved the major design flaws, I'd pick anything other than a tilt-rotor to fly on.

Nah, shut up and get your ass moving towards the ramp!!

You are comparing a gun to a helicopter that has to get in and out of an active warzone to save some lives without getting shot down.

The M2 is asked to do one thing, shoot. Apples and oranges.

"Cavemen killed with rocks, we still have rocks today. No point in making new tools." That's you. That's what you sound like.

there's a design flaw with helicopters like the huey and blackhawk, they require a tail rotor on the back to give them stability, they learned the hard way back in the 90's (black hawk down incident in somalia) that if the tail rotor is destroyed, you lose control on the helicopter.. the better design was that of the russian helicopter using coaxial twin rotor which eliminated the need for a tail rotor.. this design is incorporated in the new defiant heli, with an additional push prop for more speed, so basically this is progress.. i still remember back in that day, the 90's it was morning and i was about to go to school, cnn announced the death of 11 soldiers in somalia with the blackhawks crashing down etc... if the US can get a better helicopter than the blackhawk can offer, then its progress... no need to stay stagnant, the flaws of the blackhawk were evident on that somali incident

Well I think personally that our power is just a physical manifestation of our blessings from God. Along with our beautiful landscapes, our geography, our accomplishments like no other on earth Ever! We have been given alot. The Bible says from whom much is given much is expected. And we have given more than any other country on earth by far far. And I know we make mistakes but the United States remains blessed through all that because Jesus loves God's children no matter if they screw up. Really, why the United States has achieved so much in every way. Why, because of God. We have never lost a war, Ever! Yet, it is not because of the number of our horses or chariots, but because of God. The United States is known as The Wings of the Eagle in the Bible. We have many believers here. The Bible says "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." That is Jesus my friend. God bless!

What is wisdom? I strongly suspect most folks will answer intellect or education. Neither is the correct answer. Wisdom is the ability to combine ones personal experiences, acquired expertise, and overall awareness of all the factors involved in achieving and objective.

Uhhh, sounds like a poetic communist to me... Remember, jealousy and envy are powerful emotions, Shakespeare

@@Stephen-tq1jh yea .... US - 58,000 VN - 3,000,000 Estimated US - 2448 ACM or Taliban - 51,191 Estimated. Hate to see what winning looks like?? If you studied Vietnam, you would realize this, Afghanistan is still too fresh for analysis. Since in neither country did we go to conquer and take their land or anything. No communism in Thailand or any other Asian country, so no Domino fell.

Or if they just put weapons on the UH60. But I we have follow Geneva.

it was and is an amazing chopper, but it had a lot of issues at the time that would take too long to flesh out. It was ahead of it's time

The UH-60D was capable of doing everything an Apache can do while having greater range and the capability of limited rearmament between flight legs of the mission.

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@@gautambuddha147 why do you know how fun it is to fight for 20 years. You ever ever see combat edits. Worth it.

Lockheed has very strong ties already, so it’s 90% going to go to them strictly off of the politics of this space. They’ve been making aircrafts for over 30 years for the army

facts!

They've had that ability for years! Anything beyond that is still classified.

@Steve Lancaster Well...you voted him for a President, you get the perks