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The Boeing 747-400 Is Still Updated With Floppy Disks - Here’s Why
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Күн бұрынWhile many of us haven’t seen a floppy disk for decades, for aircraft engineers, it’s just part of the everyday job. Critical data is loaded onto the Boeing 747 and other aircraft using a simple three and a half-inch floppy diskette. Here’s why...
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@michaeldanks5975 3 жыл бұрын
At least a 747 doesn't complain when you stick in a three and a half inch floppy.
@mikan004 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 🤣
@divarachelenvy 3 жыл бұрын
bahahaha
@SusquCyclist 3 жыл бұрын
Most people born after the turn of the millennium would actually know what it is... It is the save icon that they use on numerous computer programs.
@breckr1121 3 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised that a lot more of us know what these are.
@timothycook2917 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, people say "remember when they used floppy disks?" In a few years, people will say "remember when they used to use jumbo jets?"
@tylerk.6751 3 жыл бұрын
Sad :(
@mikan004 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it is true at least
@user-fn1xm3pq6t 3 жыл бұрын
At least we will see 747-8s
@arifali01 3 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that this video does not include video of the floppy disk on the 747
@SimpleFlyingNews 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes due to a lack of copyright-free footage, we have to rely on explaining. We're sorry you weren't able to build a picture from our efforts. - TB
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
A drive in the 747 was what I came to this video to see. I know what the drives themselves look like having used many, I wanted to see where the slot is on the 747.
@misterkefir 2 жыл бұрын
Floppy disks still used in 2020 for such an important task.. quite amazing stuff.
@jamescheddar4896 Жыл бұрын
it's more because they don't want to spend money installing usb ports into all the instruments
@Titot182 3 жыл бұрын
Kids these days... Dad, what's that thing that looks like the save icon?
@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet 3 жыл бұрын
GTA San Andreas?
@Titot182 3 жыл бұрын
@@nntflow7058 I guess sarcasm and humour is lost on you
@Titot182 3 жыл бұрын
@@nntflow7058 I knew how to install games onto DOS and configure PCs, if you're at all interested! Also knew that CD roms were all the rage back then #Retro
@AluminumOxide 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember floppy discs in the early 2000s
@leonkernan 3 жыл бұрын
I used to load games on our Commodore 64 off audio cassettes.
@abseiduk 3 жыл бұрын
2002 that's when memory sticks took over.
@darkpepsi 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my floppy disc and the sound never gets old when read/write on the disc.
@LibbyMia-rz8gk Жыл бұрын
Yep i still use mine to write
@bolojungle1150 3 жыл бұрын
Sneakernet is old (very old) but relatively secure.
@tomstravels520 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a repeat but it was the computer memory episode I was thinking of
@Poultusspare 3 жыл бұрын
We still use a style of flop disks to download info from the data recorder on the trains I work on 👍🏻 only 6mb cards
@osasunaitor 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what trains are these?? I'm a train driver and now I'm curious if my trains use the same technology (PS now that I think about it, I recall seeing mechanics use USB memories to download data from the registering device, so I'm afraid we ditched the floppies already)
@Poultusspare 3 жыл бұрын
osasunaitor we have a 14x 15x fleet that all use cards. Our newer units are remotely downloaded or just a USB
@osasunaitor 3 жыл бұрын
@@Poultusspare Which country?
@Poultusspare 3 жыл бұрын
osasunaitor UK
@osasunaitor 3 жыл бұрын
@@Poultusspare Oh okay!
@Cosmoxide 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, never knew that. I like floppy disks, so I'm happy you made this video.
@SimpleFlyingNews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! -JS
@warrenmacdonald1372 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine was supply-teaching a night class for computer greenhorns in the early 90's. He was questioned by one student as to why the floppy disk wasn't fitting into the slot correctly. After explaining to the woman that folding a 5.25" in two and trying to jam it into a 3.5" slot wouldn't work, he had to leave the room for a short time so as not to embarrass her. He told me that most of these people thought he could walk on water. Oh, the good ole days!
@markiangooley 3 жыл бұрын
5.25” floppies... wouldn’t call those “encased in hard plastic shells.” The 3.5”, sure.
@jandajanda2242 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the 5.25 were still floppy
@danielschein6845 3 жыл бұрын
My kids were born in 2006 and 2010. I asked and they both knew what a floppy disk was. However, when my daughter was younger she saw an LP for the first time and asked me what it was. I had the whole bookstore in stitches when I told her that's what CDs used to look like.
@jamescheddar4896 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is the vinyl industry is still going strong on the myth that LPs are higher fidelity than digital. It would be like if VCR companies convinced people that the tracking lines on home cassettes were an essential part of the experience
@Ananth8193 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video regarding floppy disks used in b747..Loved it much
@benwilson6145 3 жыл бұрын
Loved seeing the BOAC 747
@indranilchakrabarty4196 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Very surprised !!! Certification and testing takes time. Which is why you cant tamper with planes the way you would with cars
@willbur6262 3 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised. As a aircraft engineer, I always see it in the workshop.
@annndukumutua833 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting the 747 is upgraded with floppy disks
@osasunaitor 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for repeating almost literally the title of the video
@orangepeeI100 3 жыл бұрын
The title does not describe the video well enough thank you for telling me
@sammiedammie1 3 жыл бұрын
How floppy are those floppy disks though?
@gooner72 2 жыл бұрын
I saw it on BIG JET TV video when Jerry met the captain of one of Virgin Atlantic's 747-400's where he loaded the floppy disk that had the flights data on it so yeah, it's pretty ancient technology.
@johniii8147 3 жыл бұрын
It’s nothing surprising 747-400 Was designed in the late 80s it was the technology of the time so absolutely no surprise
@klewung 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the 747 doesnt have problem with dirty floppy disk head reader....
@TnseWlms Жыл бұрын
I remember saving and downloading software onto my TRS-80 using a cassette recorder. I wished I could get a "floppy disk" drive because it was so much faster and unlike the tape recorder, there was no volume control you had to have on a certain setting.
@jamescheddar4896 Жыл бұрын
getting so retro we're using punch cards
@embfixer 3 жыл бұрын
The EMB-135/145 used them as well and it would take 30-45 min to update one unless you had a bad disk, then it was two or three times as long. Try buying new ones! I always had to order them in bulk from Amazon, they're about the only place I could still find them. A few years ago the aircraft started being upgraded with an Ethernet ports and the company I am at now has data loader with a usb port.
@ltdowney 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, Minuteman nuclear missile silo launch controls are still run on floppy disks too.
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
5.25inch discs were never encased in hard plastic shells. At the point the audio says this the video shows a clearly floppy 5.25inch disc being inserted into a drive.
@tokyoforever2522 3 жыл бұрын
Really Surprising !!!!
@skylineXpert 3 жыл бұрын
Its over 20 years since i last used a floppy
@abseiduk 3 жыл бұрын
18 years for me.
@Cinco-da-mayo 3 жыл бұрын
Wowwwwwww!! Interesting 😉
@csuporj Жыл бұрын
I wondered why the video system (tablet) is so bad on the airplane. It's probably from the same era as the floppy disk. They don't mess with the bureaucracy to update it.
@leonkernan 3 жыл бұрын
At least they aren't laserdisc or zip drives (which still get used in some places too)
@abhinavdash5912 3 жыл бұрын
747-400 does not mind when we stick a 3.5" floppy disk
@brookeking8559 3 жыл бұрын
There were also 12” floppy disks.
@NickyMitchell85 3 жыл бұрын
Dead 💀 surprised 😮, Dat’s me.. Thought they’d use a more up-to-date medium. Floppy disks 💾 are *oldskool*!
@DanielEsimu 3 жыл бұрын
What the heck, am surprise that aircrafts are updated at all.
@SimpleFlyingNews 3 жыл бұрын
They're updated every four weeks when new aeronautical data is released. - TB
@DanielEsimu 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimpleFlyingNews Wow thanks for the response am humbled. But still surprised that they have to be updated. Can't they be updated via satellite or internet?
@SimpleFlyingNews 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Esimu when I was working in a role where I had to update small aircraft, the newer ones used USB sticks and SD cards. But the older aircraft types stuck by floppy disks. I guess it just removes the margin for error, it wouldn’t be great if an update got stuck halfway. - TB
@DanielEsimu 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimpleFlyingNews Thanks so much for the info. I was an intern engineer in air navigation systems (at our airport and across the country), and imagine I never knew this. You have won yourself a subscriber.
@SimpleFlyingNews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Happy to help :) - TB
@samsam21amb 3 жыл бұрын
Very Surprised! ! :0
@satvrday3460 3 жыл бұрын
LSE 3 System Quite interesting
@amyjojinkerson6745 3 жыл бұрын
I still use them
@StewartLucrative 3 жыл бұрын
McLaren F1 cars came with a laptop that can be used to remotely diagnose them. They were cutting edge at the time but now they are fossils.
@philcamm2055 3 жыл бұрын
The Q400 still uses ZIP Disks!
@jandajanda2242 3 жыл бұрын
I was born after 2000 and I’m in an IT field I still use 3 1/2 inch floppy disks because of their security if you drop one who is going to buy a drive just to read that?
@sherweenn6769 3 жыл бұрын
737-700 NG still use it too
@monibstar 3 жыл бұрын
Yup surprised
@nunyabidness117 3 жыл бұрын
5 1/4 " disks were never enclosed in hard plastic shells. It was the big 8" floppies, then 5 1/4" floppies, and only then 3 1/2" floppies that were enclosed in hard plastic. BTW I have an advert for a 10mb hard drive from 1977. It was $3398 which accounting for inflation comes to $14,574 today.
@jamescheddar4896 Жыл бұрын
10mb is the entire database of a multinational corporation
@aminumohammed738 3 жыл бұрын
Data loading with wireless network will make plane to be easily hack and high Jack. Though, elimination of 28 day engineer will be replaced with cyber security experts, yet another twist.
@csuporj Жыл бұрын
Yeahh, and it's harder to put a virus onto the floppy as nobody has floppy units.
@litamtondy 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah about the fact that they would like to rely on wifi to update the planes... They already can't keep the bugs out of smartphones updates, just imagine what could happen if the avionics goes black because the pilot typed in a special character.
@NZCamerashy 3 жыл бұрын
At least no one can hack a plane wirelessly if they keep using floppies... 🤓
@gregs5106 Жыл бұрын
why use floppy disks? because they're harder to copy due to the limitations of possessing older equipment
@38911bytefree 3 жыл бұрын
This is not rare. Many expensive machinery still on floppy drives, CNC, Medical, giant telephone exchange systems .... They still have some lifespam left. Same goes to ATM using XP, or P&P using NT4
@bobbrown8661 3 жыл бұрын
Not surprised at all TBH.Lots of legacy tech still floating around, just ask NASA :)
@jl3059 3 жыл бұрын
That is not a floppy disk. Floppys are like 5 1/2" square or so and actually floppy
@MidnightThunderYT 3 жыл бұрын
Later floppy disks were 3 1/2 inch and enclosed in a hard shell.
@jl3059 3 жыл бұрын
@@MidnightThunderYT Those hard floppy disks aren't real floppys tho
@MidnightThunderYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@jl3059 They are! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk#%E2%80%8B3_1⁄2-inch_floppy_disk www.computerhope.com/jargon/f/floppydi.htm
@abseiduk 3 жыл бұрын
But its only got 1.5 megabytes? They definitely need a system upgrade, but then again if it works why change it.
@heesingsia4634 3 жыл бұрын
They 3D printed the save icon
@Zico20 3 жыл бұрын
Why can’t they just update them over the air?!!
@christoohunders5316 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt't the ISS upgraded with magnetic tapes ?? ;)
@Pedro_the_great 3 жыл бұрын
Nah i'm not surprised since you only made a video the other day saying it
@abseiduk 3 жыл бұрын
You're very fun in parties aren't you.
@LEJapproach 3 жыл бұрын
The B747 is from a similar era as the A320??? When the 747 was introduced, Airbus didn't even exist yet and the A320 wasn't even their first jet!
@KanyeTheGayFish69 3 жыл бұрын
He’s talking about the 747-400
@JerryWoo96 3 жыл бұрын
Actually all would have seen it in some point of their lives. Its called the save button.
@skanda5047 3 жыл бұрын
HI YESSSSSSSSSSSS ONOTHER VIDEO
@western_alex 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see this!
@sid426_ 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that the engineers did the same what we car guys do to remap our ECUs lmao
@42luke93 3 жыл бұрын
Just like how people who are film experts say that film is better than cd
@Brick-Life 3 жыл бұрын
people have very bad memory. i am born after 2000 and know what a floppy disc is
@Hans-gb4mv 3 жыл бұрын
But have you ever used them?
@michaeldanks5975 3 жыл бұрын
No, not really.
@user-fn1xm3pq6t 3 жыл бұрын
SO RETRO
@JA-ui3gg 3 жыл бұрын
Not surprising at all. One of my cars has an odb port and one doesn’t. Simply because they are from different era’s.
@skanda5047 3 жыл бұрын
U GUYS STARTED UPLOADING AT 9 PM IST TILL YESTERDAY FROM 1 WEEK U WERE UPLOADING AT 830 IST
@mgsaviation9292 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from India and they always upload at 9pm IST
@skanda5047 3 жыл бұрын
@@mgsaviation9292 I AGREE BUT A FEW DA'YS THEY UPLOADED AT 830
@Cosmoxide 3 жыл бұрын
Why all caps?
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