The Book Was Better: Dune Review

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KrimsonRogue

KrimsonRogue

9 жыл бұрын

So what did Krimson pick to celebrate the 2nd year anniversary of the show? A movie so bad, it's beyond your imagination!
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@RC1191217
@RC1191217 7 жыл бұрын
What is a real shocker for me, the idea to make Dune into a series of movies was rejected...during the release of the original Stars Wars trilogy. Let me repeat that. They rejected an idea that, at that time, demonstrated the power of a series of episodic movies in the most epic fashion imaginable. Huge box office, toys, an avalanche of money falling on Lucas. It was a PROVEN CONCEPT when they rejected it. The original Star Wars Trilogy, released in 1977, 1980, and 1983. Dune was released in 1984. The book's even divided into three parts!! The table of contents of my 40th anniversary edition has them as: part 1, Dune; part 2, Muad'dib; and part three, The Prophet. Holy crap, you'd think with source material like that, the movies would almost write themselves.
@JaceCavacini
@JaceCavacini 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, Dune is being made again and I’m sure the studios have this in mind this time around...
@kazinadbiralamadit6905
@kazinadbiralamadit6905 3 жыл бұрын
@@JaceCavacini I have some hope for it . The Director is a fan of the books and everyone involved is not making the movie out of obligation but passion including Hans zimmer who is composer on the movie.
@brettthebest3978
@brettthebest3978 3 жыл бұрын
The trailer looks really good Sooo I can’t wait for the movie
@brettthebest3978
@brettthebest3978 3 жыл бұрын
The book was already “woke” (I hate that f#cking word btw, it’s so cringe) so really if the movie is “woke” well it’s a good adaptation Also the director, writer and actors all love the book sooo
@brettthebest3978
@brettthebest3978 3 жыл бұрын
God when the movie comes out there going to be so many people saying “it’s a woke movie, super feminist” but if u seen the director earlier work like blade runner 2049, prisoners, arrival it wasn’t “woke” also he loves the book and movie is going to be in 2 soooo I think it going to be worthy adaptation
@pythiasibyls6269
@pythiasibyls6269 7 жыл бұрын
Sir Patrick Stewart is an immortal. I was 3 when Dune came out and while I've aged normally, Stewart has aged at 1/10th speed. Hr has to be the inspiration for Captain Jack Harkness and he'll fake his death someday and deep into the future be the the Face of Bo.
@jonathanorozco6196
@jonathanorozco6196 7 жыл бұрын
In this movie he charged into battle holding a space pug. That is badass!
@jerryrichburg9198
@jerryrichburg9198 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 4 жыл бұрын
"AND COMMENCE!" God speed, Captain Professor Scrooge.
@Barnesofthenorth
@Barnesofthenorth 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought it's more he looked about 50 when he was 30 so he caught up to how he looked then started aging again
@Monarchyman1
@Monarchyman1 7 жыл бұрын
When I saw the movie, I thought the 'music' in the emperor's throne room was some sort of alarm.
@quarreneverett4767
@quarreneverett4767 4 жыл бұрын
@SpaceDreamerFr i know im late. Is it possibly a reference to the book
@TKinfinity01
@TKinfinity01 3 жыл бұрын
It seemed obvious to me that it was an alarm.
@sparkleypegs8350
@sparkleypegs8350 3 жыл бұрын
Hah! Me too.
@opalyasu7159
@opalyasu7159 10 ай бұрын
It sounded like someone printing out a word document
@googamp32
@googamp32 9 жыл бұрын
Technically, salt isn't a spice. It's a chemical compound.
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 9 жыл бұрын
***** I was waiting for someone to point that out. Yeah, you're right, but salt is also less expensive to waste than the turmeric in my spice cabinet. :P
@9Godslayer
@9Godslayer 5 жыл бұрын
As a cook, I have to ask: you poured that salt into a bowl, right?
@JaceCavacini
@JaceCavacini 5 жыл бұрын
Then don’t waste it. Pour it from one container to another. Also, I would think the obvious one to use would be cinnamon, but turmeric works too.
@QuikVidGuy
@QuikVidGuy 4 жыл бұрын
and a drug
@jbaum566
@jbaum566 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah...but going by that every other spice is only a mixture of chemical compounds...sooooo
@DemitriVladMaximov
@DemitriVladMaximov 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone point out that the noise going on with the scenes involving the emperor is an alarm? First two is to get people out of the room as the guild enters and the other is about the attack.
@andrewgwilliam4831
@andrewgwilliam4831 8 жыл бұрын
I was just about to make the same point. Odd that this is the second review on here I've seen that makes the same assumption.
@armymobilityofficer9099
@armymobilityofficer9099 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe, just maybe, the reviewer is trying to be humorous.
@Mythos_Musik
@Mythos_Musik 7 жыл бұрын
It's not music, it's an alarm.
@ColpoRosso
@ColpoRosso 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, I hoped for a humorous review of a decent but flawed movie, instead I got a heartfelt rant over stuff the reviewer doesn't even comprehend.
@AaaaNinja
@AaaaNinja 3 жыл бұрын
@khandwa style They're chill because nobody emotes in this movie.
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 3 жыл бұрын
@khandwa style the only one that seemed to show concern was Irulan
@Sammy-S
@Sammy-S 9 жыл бұрын
Paul must be... The Dragonborn!!! *Cue the Skyrim theme*
@count_bodies_like_sheep9296
@count_bodies_like_sheep9296 8 жыл бұрын
+Sam S The Dom made the same reference in his review on Dune!!
@Sammy-S
@Sammy-S 8 жыл бұрын
Michael Lamere Nice XD
@1987MartinT
@1987MartinT 7 жыл бұрын
It actually sounds like he shouts FUS RO DAH when he uses it on Feyd.
@RandemFellow
@RandemFellow 6 жыл бұрын
He's the God Emperor
@magicrainbowkitties1023
@magicrainbowkitties1023 5 жыл бұрын
My brain: Don't do it. Seriously don't. Please do- Me: *DOVAHKIIN. DOVAHKIIN. NOL OK ZIIN LOS VARHIIN. WAHDIEN, VOKUL, MAHFAERAAK AHST VAL. AHRK FIN NOROK PAAL GRAAN, FODNUST VOK ZIN DRO ZAHN. DOVAHKIIN, FA HIN. KOGAAN MU DRAAL.*
@TheFacelessStoryMaker
@TheFacelessStoryMaker 3 жыл бұрын
What I love about both stories is Paul's ascension is a self fulfilling prophecy. The guild foresaw Paul causing a problem for spice production but in their quest to stop him he ended up fulfilling the prophecy and halting spice production and ascending to the throne as Emperor. I always enjoy stories like that.
@Beghty27
@Beghty27 7 жыл бұрын
The Spacing Guild does not control spice distribution. That would be the CHOAM company. The guild specifically controls interstellar travel which is necesarry for a variety of reasons.
@loled123
@loled123 4 жыл бұрын
Which also give them a monopoly on anything related to space. FTL? Interplanet travel? Moon mining? Satellites, and by proxy most forms of terraforming. And a lot more. Yet by being in indirect control of society, they can survive as a parasite who will survive political turmoil and regime changes.
@Historyfan476AD
@Historyfan476AD 4 жыл бұрын
@@loled123 are you really a parasite if you control the one essential, morality out of the way for a second we call all agree there not nice people.
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 3 жыл бұрын
@@Historyfan476AD with how much spice they need, and without them the empire would crumble. It is a symbiotic relationship, but it is still a parasite, much like the spice itself is the deadliest poison because it only kills you if you stop taking it
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 3 жыл бұрын
@@loled123 it’s not FTL, it’s foldspace. FTL would suggest that they move while foldspace places them from one location to another instantaneously. Even with FTL, it would take months to get from one planet to the next
@loled123
@loled123 3 жыл бұрын
@@tgiacin435 Oh FFS. Look anon You are going moving lightyears, in less time than it takes for the light to move. Egro: Faster than Light. Not the meaning, but the common meaning that has entrenched itself in Sci Fi because the alternative is generation ships.
@ndep93
@ndep93 2 жыл бұрын
According to Frank Herbert himself, in a 1985 interview he gave at UCLA I believe, there was over 5 hours of film, but the theaters told the studio that they couldn't show a film for that long because they wouldn't be able to have as many showings per day as they'd have liked, so the studio made David Lynch cut hours of footage from the film, not just ~45 mins.
@Grayvorn
@Grayvorn 9 ай бұрын
I'd love a 5 hour version.
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 8 жыл бұрын
With the shields, in the book, the were described as pretty much being invisible except for a light shimmer, so they didn't even need to do what they did with the shields
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 8 жыл бұрын
And the emperor's music sounds like a 90s printer
@KGKSkull
@KGKSkull 10 ай бұрын
Well, 3D animation tools were still new, but use of it was seen as an experiment or way to show off, as if you’re saying “CHECK THIS OUT “ . It’s like when a movie does the classic slow mo matrix reference. Basically, trying to show off, like when an actor in a Japanese movie speaks English
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 10 ай бұрын
@@KGKSkull Ik, but it’s the irony especially since this was after return of the jedi which makes it look cheap in some aspects, and the shields could’ve been a lot easier if the only showed a flash when the blades made contact
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 10 ай бұрын
@@KGKSkull also love your Skullman PFP
@MadameTamma
@MadameTamma 8 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing about world building, just start with what's important to know in relation to you main characters. A good example of using exposition to begin your movie is Star Wars. Everyone remembers the wall of text the movie starts off with but really it only lets you know 3 important things. 1. there's an evil empire with a genocide machine. 2 there are rebels trying to get there hands on plans to destroy said genocide machine. 3 the plans are currently being held by a Princess named Leia. Done! How did the this evil empire take control? what's a jedi? what's the force? We don't need to know those things to begin with. We find out when it's important for the characters. The characters are always more important than trivial things about your fictional world.
@salenebrom6476
@salenebrom6476 4 жыл бұрын
MadameTamma 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@1r0zz
@1r0zz 2 жыл бұрын
the problem is that the only star wars movies with actual "lore" are the prequels... the original series was more about a string of "fantasy stuff" events without any explanation.
@Grim_Sister
@Grim_Sister 2 жыл бұрын
“THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKEN!” The sleeper demands five more minutes
@thegreatstoneddragon9432
@thegreatstoneddragon9432 2 жыл бұрын
The sleeper will keep hitting the snooze button.
@InoMercy
@InoMercy 7 жыл бұрын
It seems like a lot of the complaints about Dune, can be reflected in the Last Airbender. A slog of a movie that puts more focus on exposition and world building over character and often blowing past, writing out, or changing important plot points. And both are based off of critically acclaimed works that are WAY too long to fit into a 2 hour movie.
@perfectid3317
@perfectid3317 7 жыл бұрын
Weird. I sorta agree but then why do I love Dune and totally abhor the Last Airbender? And to add to the confusion: I hate Herbert's books series and love Avatar, the last Airbender, the Animation Series.. I guess, at the end of the day, there is simply no arguing about taste.
@floricel_112
@floricel_112 4 жыл бұрын
"puts more focus on exposition and world building over character and often blowing past, writing out, or changing important plot points" So, in summary, Dune the movie is a faithful adaptation to the books
@dieyng
@dieyng 7 ай бұрын
Damn, hey it's okay if you don't like Lynch's Dune, but there's no need to insult it this way.
@LilacElf8582
@LilacElf8582 6 жыл бұрын
Okay....that little girl is--hands down--THE CREEPIEST kid character I have ever seen!! *shudders*
@salenebrom6476
@salenebrom6476 4 жыл бұрын
LilacElf8582 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 3 жыл бұрын
It is Alia after all
@cjkalandek996
@cjkalandek996 2 жыл бұрын
What about the resurrected kid from the original Pet Semetery movie?
@HellfireLynx22
@HellfireLynx22 9 жыл бұрын
I am going to be frank. When you revealed that you were doing The Adventures of Tin Tin next, I literally screamed with joy. The next episode cannot come fast enough.
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 9 жыл бұрын
***** Scripting begins this Saturday! XD
@robertjim7517
@robertjim7517 9 жыл бұрын
KrimsonRogue Must.....be...sooner....
@Dim4323
@Dim4323 9 жыл бұрын
KrimsonRogue also their where other sequal Dune Apocalypse stating xmen star James Macavoy. And its a shame I love the production design and the music the scean where they ride the sand WORM and the guitar riffs it epic X2. If their was a Remake they need to get del toro for the monsters and James Cameron for the characters their it can work and win awards.
@Dim4323
@Dim4323 9 жыл бұрын
Their was also the cartoon as well
@Dim4323
@Dim4323 8 жыл бұрын
the secret of the unicorn
@drunkwaifu2882
@drunkwaifu2882 2 жыл бұрын
we need a reboot of this video now
@MrRemicas
@MrRemicas 5 жыл бұрын
Gurney always was my favorite character in this movie, and you explain why very well. He's a warrior, and a bard. He charges into battle carrying a pug. And he's played by Patrick Steward. You make a good argument in why this movie is terrible. Still, I still keep a soft spot in my heart for it. My late mother loved it, for all of its flaws, she was a fan of the books and the movie, especially its score by Toto.
@MrImastinker
@MrImastinker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank Christ we got this year’s Dune: Part One. A *proper* adaptation. And Part Two is already on the way!
@yaminarthem1977
@yaminarthem1977 2 жыл бұрын
When part two came out, I'll start spamming sso mabey we could see a 4-ways re-review bettewn dune(book) dune (80's) dune (2000) and dune (20's)
@Dim4323
@Dim4323 Жыл бұрын
Oscar winning movie 6 times
@cutlassken6194
@cutlassken6194 2 жыл бұрын
Who else has come back to watch this after seeing Dune 2021?
@thegreatstoneddragon9432
@thegreatstoneddragon9432 2 жыл бұрын
🙋‍♂️
@Godzillakingofkaiju1
@Godzillakingofkaiju1 9 жыл бұрын
Could you do a review of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind? (Yes it's based on a manga which technically counts as a book). In fact could you do reviews of Ghibli's book-to-movie adaptations such as Tales from Earthsea and Howl's Moving Castle?
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 9 жыл бұрын
Ian Greene You know, that's not a bad idea.
@chromesthesia
@chromesthesia 9 жыл бұрын
Oooooo yes. The manga is so tight and good. The movie is not mad but not as epic
@theemperorsfinest7297
@theemperorsfinest7297 9 жыл бұрын
I loved that movie
@Painocus
@Painocus 8 жыл бұрын
+crazystairs712: The film isn't based on all those 1000 pages of the manga though. It follows roughly the first two of those seven books (which I think is all that Miyazaki had finished at that point) rather faithfully. Most of the changes are not to cut down time but to either remove plot-lines that leads into later parts of the manga or solve them in different ways that work within the plot-frame of the film (the God-Warrior is a good example of this). The film's strength as an adaption lies in taking less than one 3rd of the plot and making it work as a stand alone entity with minimal change, but it never touches on many of the darker themes that only comes to the forefront later in the manga: like the horrors of war, religious fanaticism, whether or not the ends justify the means, the negative effects of using violence to solve conflicts, what one should be willing to sacrifice to save humanity, whether humanity deserves to be saved in the first place and the stronger moral ambiguity. Nausicaa in the manga is ultimately less of a clear cut "good guy" than in the film, while the villains are infinity more sympathetic and understandable. The film in comparison is much more simplistic and idealistic, "These people are doing bad things, thankfully good Nausicaa is here to stop them and make them see the error in their ways". In the manga she and the villains ultimately want the same thing, what they believe to be best for everyone, but the methods they use and the sacrifices they are willing to make to achieve that is what sets them apart. And while the sympathies is clearly placed with Nausicaa over the others, none of their approaches is show to be "the right one". They are all simply in a horrible situations where none of the possible outcomes are satisfactory. Not to say that the film is bad because it lacks these things, but to say that it encapsulates the core themes and plot of the entire manga isn't very accurate.
@Painocus
@Painocus 8 жыл бұрын
*****: Aye, I posted that mainly so other people who stumbled upon this wouldn't walk away with the wrong idea, Miyazaki's 'problem' as an adapter seems to be that he likes to infuse the adaption with his own interpretations and ideas. If the original is his this doesn't produce too much conflict, when the original is not it might. Although I only have Howl to base this on, not having read The Incredible Tide, The Wind Has Risen or his original Earthsea script. His Pippi Longstocking film seemed like it would be quite faithful thought, too bad that never happened.
@WutangchickeN
@WutangchickeN 7 жыл бұрын
This movie is still worth it for the set design, Looks amazing.
@brettthebest3978
@brettthebest3978 3 жыл бұрын
Does it? There is some bad sets in the movie
@bradwolf07
@bradwolf07 9 жыл бұрын
The scene where the Baron seems to check out his nephew, Sting. That is the cherry on top of creepy that is the Baron. And you've got to give the Baron credit, picking a spy who hates you with every fiber of his being is a creative choice.
@RedwoodTheElf
@RedwoodTheElf 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that sound we keep hearing near the Emperor is supposed to be some sort of alarm, warning the Emperor of important visitors or an attack. And I'm pretty sure Paul ONLY made it rain at the palace, not in the deep desert. And IIRC, he did it by drawing on the Fremen's hidden reservoirs, so now they don't have their water reserves anymore. Good Job, Paul.
@j.h.3425
@j.h.3425 4 ай бұрын
But its weird to use the same alarm to warn for an attack and announce the coming of an delegation.
@angelabeyer2497
@angelabeyer2497 6 жыл бұрын
it's even creepier when you learn that the Baron is Jessica's father...
@tylerfish2701
@tylerfish2701 4 жыл бұрын
What?
@JekyViews
@JekyViews 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerfish2701 - Baron Harkonnen is Jessica’s biological father (but since she’s Bene Gesseret, she doesn’t really know her lineage). The Water of Life gives her access to some sort of cellular memory (it’s been a while, I don’t remember exactly what they called it), and since she was pregnant with Ali’s, Alia also possesses the knowledge. So Alia tells Harkonnen he is her grandfather, and then murders him. One big, happy family.
@tylerfish2701
@tylerfish2701 3 жыл бұрын
@@JekyViews Both this movie and the book are messed up beyond belief.
@Isaac-gh5ku
@Isaac-gh5ku 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if a Dune adaptation is a series of 5 anime movies that ran from 1985 to 1993, because the original book was incredibly thick. Each end with a cliffhanger until the fifth film.
@Dorianin1
@Dorianin1 7 жыл бұрын
...and just for the record, I loved the movie. Was one of the defining movies of my childhood. And, yes, I had read all 6 books before seeing it.
@maxwellgomes627
@maxwellgomes627 9 жыл бұрын
Crap! Dune is about as big as the Count of Monte Cristo, speaking of which . . . Do you have any plans to review that?
@jeroenvanwees3250
@jeroenvanwees3250 9 жыл бұрын
I think that noise in the throneroom is supposed to be comming from some kind of heavy space machinery. Though not making the throneroom soundproof sounds (haha!) like a serious designflaw to me.
@jamesb.8940
@jamesb.8940 7 жыл бұрын
"Tell, don't show" - but by all means show a ton of stuff that bears no relation to the book.
@boblarson7694
@boblarson7694 7 жыл бұрын
A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct. This every sister of the Bene Gesserit knows. To begin your study of the life of Muad'Dib, then, take care that you first place him in his time: born in the 57th year of the Padishah Emperor, Shaddam IV. And take the most special care that you locate Muad'Dib in his place: the planet Arrakis. Do not be deceived by the fact that he was born on Caladan and lived his first fifteen years there. Arrakis, the planet known as Dune, is forever his place. --from "Manual of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan
@brandonbutler7204
@brandonbutler7204 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Man -- I LIKED that opening monologue. There's a lot wrong with the movie, but her face and calm voice set against the stars retained my attention. It felt stylish and poetic. Frankly, the movie loses it with the voiceovers and the quasi-camp feel of its villains and fight scenes.
@graviler2514
@graviler2514 4 жыл бұрын
Exposition is always seen as a sin by film-critic wannabes, but even some of the best movies of all time has a certain amount of exposition, because is the last option for clarifying something that HAS to be clear.
@MichaelAarons1701
@MichaelAarons1701 9 жыл бұрын
Um Krimson, I believe that odd noise is the Emporer's alarm bell. I believe it plays when important things like a Guild Member shows up since it's considered taboo for regular people to look upon them as well as sounding during attacks.
@bigreaderpike
@bigreaderpike 7 жыл бұрын
i actually liked the movie. it was my first exposure to Dune and i loved it, dry bit and all. admittedly the blue eyes, sand worms and epic music made it great. because of it i read the books.
@shadekerensky3691
@shadekerensky3691 8 жыл бұрын
You forgot something, that I was surprised you didn't point out at the end, and that being the fact that Paul WASN'T the Quizatz Haderach, but something TOTALLY different, something that nobody expected including the Bene Gesserit, he just took the title of Quizatz Haderach for the power it would gain him.
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 7 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to post so late I heard that Quizatz Haderach was going to female and born in 1000 later., because Jessica wanted to give a Duke a son she disobey orders. Was the the female Quizatz Haderack born later then>
@shadekerensky3691
@shadekerensky3691 7 жыл бұрын
The Quizatz Haderach was supposed to be male. Able to use the powers that the Bene Gesserit had and to access the female part, but then was to be able to go to the places that were purely masculine, which opened the person who was the Quizatz Haderach to many new powers and possiblities. I sadly haven't read the later books released by Frank, so I'm not sure if the Quizatz Haderach was ultimately able to be born, but Paul ended up having the powers of the Quizatz and MORE, so I find it doubtful, but maybe.
@liamfoote7164
@liamfoote7164 6 жыл бұрын
He actually was the Kwisatz Haderach he just denied it. Later in the book he accepts it. In the sequels he is also referred to as the Kwisatz Haderach
@alen7480
@alen7480 5 жыл бұрын
He wasn't the Quizatz Haderach. The Lady Jessica was supposed to give birth to a female, who was then supposed to be be wed to a Harkonnen (I think Feyd). Their offspring would have been he Quizatz Haderach, assuming everything went well (failures sometimes happened). That is why Paul fighting Feyd was such a travesty for the Bene Gesserit, two lines that could have killed each other, with only Paul's sister, an abomination, and the pregnant woman Feyd had an affair with (the wife of the other could have been Quzatz Haderach), an unknown entity. Paul never accepted the role of the Quizatz Haderach, it was his son that did... who resented Paul for not taking the responsibility of the Golden Path.
@flyffless5883
@flyffless5883 9 жыл бұрын
Each video is getting more and more professional than the last. Absolutely love your editing and layout. Always waiting to see what will come out next!
@phoenixfritzinger9185
@phoenixfritzinger9185 5 жыл бұрын
I bless the rains down in Arrakica
@BugsyFoga
@BugsyFoga 3 жыл бұрын
Just came back from watching for the new dune film .
@ZeroArmour
@ZeroArmour 5 жыл бұрын
I know it's not perfect, but I never had a problem with the film.
@Magos_Fritz
@Magos_Fritz 5 жыл бұрын
Dune II is what got me into the universe. When found out there was a movie I must have watched it like a hundred times when I was a kid. Then I finally read the books when I was old enough.
@GaoDaHoi
@GaoDaHoi 5 жыл бұрын
Game was fun. Novel was great..... And we seldom talk about this movie.
@tomasinacovell4293
@tomasinacovell4293 8 жыл бұрын
This review isn't even wrong! And don't forget that Herbert liked Lynches Weirding Modules a lot.
@MewMewSun
@MewMewSun 8 жыл бұрын
Can you do a seperate review of the early 2000s Dune movie-series?
@Dorianin1
@Dorianin1 7 жыл бұрын
I really liked that mini-series....Children of Dune, especially. Had a lot of faults, but not a bad adaptation.
@Skye_Writer
@Skye_Writer 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. I had hated the movie, but the Children of Dune miniseries actually drew me in, and then I watched the Dune mini series.
@JaceCavacini
@JaceCavacini 5 жыл бұрын
I hated them. They were cheap looking, and not well designed at that. They were stilted and melodramatic. They felt as hollow as Lynch’s Dune, but didn’t have incredible visuals to prop them up as Lynch’s Dune did.
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 3 жыл бұрын
When I watched Dune, it took so long to get going (and I read the book first) that I had COMPLETELY missed Sir Patrick Stewart. I genuinely wish that I could age HALF as gracefully as that man has. 19:03 - I couldn't agree more with that statement. 32:15 - I *definitely* got that impression from the book. Didn't make it that far into the movie before I followed the sticker: "Be Kind & Rewind."
@gabrielperrella
@gabrielperrella 7 жыл бұрын
So, just for curiosity, are you planning to review the Arnold Schwarzenegger Conan movies?
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 7 жыл бұрын
Someone has requested it, but at the moment, I do not have it scheduled.
@gabrielperrella
@gabrielperrella 7 жыл бұрын
Alright. Thank you.
@Dim4323
@Dim4323 7 жыл бұрын
KrimsonRogue any plans to review the dune mini series?
@itstartedinmud
@itstartedinmud 7 жыл бұрын
the story is not set 10,000 years in the future, it is set 10,000 years on the calendar started after the butlerian jihad. the age of the heisenberg came before that and they fell to the machines, who ruled for some time. if i remember right it is actually something more like 65-85 thousand years in the future.
@ianciti
@ianciti 4 жыл бұрын
as someone who never read the book YES. i did enjoy this movie and i could kinda follow it after the second viewing. to me it's just a great cheesy sci fi from the 80's. and there are some lines that just make me go all kinds of goofy. the whole "and how can this be? for he IS the kwisatz haderach" line is just so amazing i can't get enough.
@Duragizer8775
@Duragizer8775 4 жыл бұрын
If you ask me, opening the film with two minutes of Virginia Madsen's beautiful face was a brilliant move.
@tylerfish2701
@tylerfish2701 4 жыл бұрын
This is the same woman who voiced the lovely animated Queen Hippolyta in Wonder Woman.
@betatrontentetk6615
@betatrontentetk6615 7 жыл бұрын
The OST is beautiful.
@alexking7205
@alexking7205 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone rewatching this review after seeing the trailer for the remake
@TS2dethmonkey
@TS2dethmonkey 9 жыл бұрын
Happy Anniversary! Looking forward to another year of your videos. Keep up the good work and writing. Cheers!
@yunonasumi7982
@yunonasumi7982 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering something, what soundtrack did you use for when Patrick Stuart showed up. (The “angelic” music) I’m trying to make a collection of such songs.
@Canadian_Princess
@Canadian_Princess 9 жыл бұрын
You're either mad, brave or both. Though to be fair after books 3 and 4 the rest of the series becomes rather baffling and silly (in my opinion). Okay time to watch the video.
@legolasisthebest
@legolasisthebest 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all these reviews. The way you talk about stories and characters, I'm taking all that to heart with my story. It helps a surprisingly large amount :) .
@Gwestytears
@Gwestytears 11 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly, Frank Herbert liked the design of the 1984 Guild Navigators so much that he incorporated it into the later books
@ridergilwin1494
@ridergilwin1494 2 жыл бұрын
What with the new Dune movie that just dropped, will we get a new Book was Better for it?
@BroundGeef
@BroundGeef 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait... they were gonna have Pink Floyd do the music? Dude, that would've been sick!
@mercenaryknight5419
@mercenaryknight5419 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best reviews showing why this deserved a better adaptation.
@golfer435
@golfer435 2 жыл бұрын
Well it got one
@mcgibs
@mcgibs 7 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine the weirding way is a lot like the fights in the Sherlock Holmes movies, combined with the fast-mo flow in 300.
@CogswellThatEndsWell
@CogswellThatEndsWell 9 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your 2 year anniversary! Looking forward to many more! :)
@bootnab
@bootnab 7 жыл бұрын
I loved. No, LOVE the shield effects. They are so beautifully off-putting. When I imagine a visible kinetic shield I figure it is modulated enough to cause all light hitting it to morph and shimmer. This film is unapologetically operatic. The soundtrack reinforces that aspect. The excessive exposition fits and, dare I say, reinforces the operatic aspect. This movie is... decidedly, not everyone's cup of melange, but, for we twisted few who watch it on a near regular basis (dare I speak for the dozens of us?) the rough spots are, in many cases, more endearing every time. That said; thank you for the passionate review. Your snark is like ribbon candy.
@perfectid3317
@perfectid3317 7 жыл бұрын
I pretty much liked all special effects EXCEPT for the shield effect (too visible, too angular, too much). I always thought I would be better off fighting without a shield than getting distracted by such a monster disrupting my sight. That and the navigating navigator spewing light/energy/whatever - just looked amateurishly made somehow.
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 4 жыл бұрын
One good thing to come out of this film is that Dune games (Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune) used a lot of its aesthetic, but they sane-ed it up a bit, making them still stylish, but not as gross/weird, which is nice
@JettMann8
@JettMann8 4 жыл бұрын
I have wanted top learn more about dattaism, or however it is spelled, but I cannot find anything on the internet. Where can I go to figure this out?
@kevinthepilgrim
@kevinthepilgrim 2 жыл бұрын
Dadaism.
@JudasBrennan
@JudasBrennan 6 жыл бұрын
The 1984 Dune is my all time favourite movie.
@KougajiCalling
@KougajiCalling 2 жыл бұрын
It's one of my favorites as well!
@pelgervampireduck
@pelgervampireduck 3 жыл бұрын
I'm conflicted about the movie, I love the book, but I don't think the movie is thaaaaaaaaaaat bad. maybe it was enough just seeing something resembling that universe and those characters on screen.
@ladymoonscar
@ladymoonscar 9 жыл бұрын
so our reactions at seeing Sir Patrick in this movie were pretty spot on. did you scream in terror when you saw Brad Dourif? cuz i did. and ran out of the room. give Leia cuddles!
@bea4828
@bea4828 4 жыл бұрын
They should've A: split it into two parts. Or B: Made it three hours I know three hours is a lot but so is a lot of classics such as Good, Bad, And Ugly, so is Godfather Part 2, Gone With The Wind, and Seven Samurai. With good pacing, it could've been great
@ryanartward
@ryanartward 8 жыл бұрын
I though that music in the throneroom was an alarm for visitors. like what I have for my grandmother.
@aalatvss
@aalatvss 4 жыл бұрын
I actually watched the whole mini series with my brother a while ago, he was so passionate about it that he wanted me to see it too. I honestly think it did a much better job at adapting the story than the movie did, obviously. It was quite compelling, even though sometimes the plot didn't flow that easily. Still, though, it's something worth watching and may be easier for someone that is a bit afraid of reading a 800 pages book; it's a good premise with a decent execution.
@aronhalverson2115
@aronhalverson2115 4 жыл бұрын
My dad introduced me to this movie as a kid, I loved it, its quotable as hell, and the books (I've only read 1 book, one set after the events of the movie) was good as well, yes I know that no movie is perfect, but in my opinion Dune comes real close. Edit: this movie is better than the remake
@briankentpirrie5228
@briankentpirrie5228 6 жыл бұрын
good news is denis villeneuve is going to remake dune.
@SkyHighGuys
@SkyHighGuys 5 жыл бұрын
I was wandering the world as a hobo wondering if my beard would outgrow me before I was able to watch another video like this! I MISSED THESE :)
@divinestrike00x78
@divinestrike00x78 2 жыл бұрын
“This is a scene only a criminally insane art student could make.” Meet David Lynch.
@CraftyAndyCreates
@CraftyAndyCreates 8 жыл бұрын
Never read the books but damn the extended version was nothing like this especially the beginning, and then when I saw the original version I can see why people were so negative of it. I really don't get how people can't follow it, so many great scenes. pretty much cried when Patrick Stuart came there. And If I remember the sandworms even made oxygen on the planet so they all suffocated in the end.
@memnarch129
@memnarch129 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Whats sad is it is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE to find a full 4 hour uncut version of Dune. Every time I hunted for it on VHS, and later DVD/Blu-Ray, it is ALWAYS the shitty 2 hour version.
@CraftyAndyCreates
@CraftyAndyCreates 8 жыл бұрын
memnarch129 I remember this was the staple of the scifi channel for the longest time, even a version I can't find had a narrator giving more details of the different houses, their positions and more.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 3 жыл бұрын
The world of Dune led to many inspirations, chief among them the universal details of Warhammer 40k The movie of Dune led many to be inspired for a nap.
@Isaac-gh5ku
@Isaac-gh5ku 4 жыл бұрын
2:55 If that man was still alive back then, he would create the best movie adaptations of Dune ever. It would have 5 to 6 movies, because he had to adapt this from an incredibly thick book. It would ran from 1968 to 1980.
@corm1000
@corm1000 6 жыл бұрын
David Lynch also did Eraserhead, so that would explain those industrial machine sounds you hear in the beginning.
@ShiftingFixations
@ShiftingFixations 4 жыл бұрын
Dalí x Giger for Dune would’ve been... damn. Just damn. That’s... two of my favorite artists, so I wish that’d happened honestly. Though I’m glad we got Alien. Anything Ginger touched in terms of set was so cool to look at. Even if it was often more than a little phallic. And Dalí is just a damn inspiration for me. Not sure having those two would’ve made the script or acting any better, but damn, it would’ve LOOKED better...
@CatComixzStudios
@CatComixzStudios 9 жыл бұрын
I can't help but get a kick out of some parts of the movie. The actors who go way over the top really stand out compared to the bored muttering of everyone else. It's a shame this movie didn't turn out well; I would have loved to see this as a sci-fi classic. Also, I'm really glad you mentioned the dog. I sure as hell don't remember any pugs in the book, but that was probably one of the only good things they added. Though, I feel like bringing a pet to Dune would be kind of cruel.
@keenankelloug
@keenankelloug 9 жыл бұрын
Happy Anniversary KR. I hope this review don't get copyright
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 9 жыл бұрын
Keeanan Kellough Even if it does, I'll fight it.
@lotusthemermaid
@lotusthemermaid 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if a remake is in the works? It looks like there were a lot of great ideas in the story that would hold up today.
@divinefever
@divinefever 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! There is! It is being directed by Dennis Villeneuve who directed Blade Runner 2049 and Arrival. It also has a great cast of actors and the music is being composed by Hans Zimmer (he worked on the music for Interstellar, Gladiator, Inception, and a ton of other great films) If I'm not completely wrong they plan to release it in 2020, and it will be made into two parts. If they actually manage to pull this off it looks to become one of the greatest sci-fi films of all time.
@Seiaeka
@Seiaeka 4 жыл бұрын
The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness.
@michaelbarbarelli3764
@michaelbarbarelli3764 4 жыл бұрын
Starting from 45:27... did you overlay two separate tracks? Toto's "Riding the Sandworm" and then a stock track called "heaven..." something or other? If so, that was absolutely brilliant. I hope you're working on the new film to be released in 2020.
@TempestXtreme
@TempestXtreme 7 жыл бұрын
I inherited this book from my grandfather. In hardback. It's huge, it's heavy, and if I dropped it on a person's head from two floors up I'd probably kill them with it. Also my very, very first science fiction novel that I actually enjoyed when I was younger. Like 13. EDIT: It's a hardback collection of the entire trilogy.
@frankcastle9480
@frankcastle9480 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, the effects were pretty bad even back in 1984, and way behind its time. The effects of the first Star Wars were so much better, and that movie was made 7 years earlier. Not to mention 2001 which was made another decade earlier than that. Dune somehow looks like it's 20 years older than Star Wars. I don't know what the problem was, since they did have a pretty big budget. But watching it on the big screen 99% of the effects looked pretty fake. They could have done better than that. I understand Lynch tried to do something different, and he certainly succeeded. When I first saw the movie I thought it was supposed to be that weird (the Baron and the rest of the Harkonnen particularly). Then I read the book and it was nothing like the movie at all. However I have no idea where that reviewer got "800 pages" from. I have the exact same edition shown in this video, exactly the same cover too, but it's only about 300 pages, definitely nowhere near 800. We are talking about the FIRST Dune novel here, not any of the sequels.
@jfarrar19
@jfarrar19 7 жыл бұрын
At about 12:20, what is that song? I need it.
@sparkleypegs8350
@sparkleypegs8350 3 жыл бұрын
Saw this on release when I was 14 and hated it. Getting a chance to actually focus on this complicated film with a bunch of 14 year olds was never going to end well. Second viewing a few years later and I kind of loved it. Weird, complicated, ugly and great, plus the soundtrack by Toto was also interesting as they were big at the time. This film is one of my guilty pleasures. I just hope the new one captures me as this version did.
@Drforrester31
@Drforrester31 9 жыл бұрын
Was there a description of the Navigators in the book?
@elizagaskell7957
@elizagaskell7957 5 жыл бұрын
I read all the books of Dune - that's why I find the movie and later the mini series sluggish and pretty laughable. Dune needs to be either a TV series or a 5 part movie.
@Mattfromthepast
@Mattfromthepast 6 жыл бұрын
As bad as it is without this movie we wouldn't have gotten Steward on TNG and it is unlikely Twin Peaks would have ever existed, so i can't completely hate this movie.
@KimCheongBRO
@KimCheongBRO 8 жыл бұрын
Not as good as the book, but certainly not deserving of the brutal reviews. I fucking love it for what it it.
@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth 8 жыл бұрын
...This isn't a movie. It's at least five movies. Every time you think it's wrapping up, the thing you thought was about to resolve gets shoved aside by a whole new story arc that springs up out of nowhere. Even if they had to make all the changes that make no damn sense and serve only to make the story even more convoluted than it already is, why a movie instead of an ongoing series?
@1Katakana
@1Katakana 9 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Tintin ^^ It made me remember when I watched it as a child, and I just love the little "episode" they play during the credit roll. This is going to be awesome :D
@jamespocelinko104
@jamespocelinko104 7 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me the name for the score at 41:15?
@jamespocelinko104
@jamespocelinko104 7 жыл бұрын
Nevermind. Found it.
@Tr3at_y0_self
@Tr3at_y0_self 9 жыл бұрын
I am a incoming freshmen taking honors English. I have a great love of reading and A love for science fiction. I know that I'll have to read this book in sometime in the future but should I read it now, and in this day and age with someone 14 years old actually enjoy about as old is this?
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 9 жыл бұрын
Conner Dawson Well, Dune is a little dense, but if you can handle honors level English, you'd probably have a shot at it, especially if you have a love of Shakespeare. XD
@golfer435
@golfer435 2 жыл бұрын
So uh, KR, you wanna make another one of these for the new movie?
@BinturongGirl
@BinturongGirl Жыл бұрын
I enjoy the Lynch movie despite it's limitations. I wish I could see the movie Lynch has wanted to make. But that reaction to the Navigator is gold
@fredesca8648
@fredesca8648 5 жыл бұрын
What's the title of the outro music?
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 5 жыл бұрын
The navigators aren’t aliens they are just severely mutated Humans because they are modified to navigate through the universe at speeds faster than light.
@zebedeetotty
@zebedeetotty 7 жыл бұрын
33:37 best line of the movie takethekisswillmakehookaourseich and ride as a leader of man, yes man not men. that line had my in tears so funny
@mihirlavande
@mihirlavande 4 жыл бұрын
Bar the god awful pacing, this movie had sparks of genius and some of the most amazing visuals and score ever. Something about it makes me watch it again and again when drunk, laughing my ass off while simultaneously acknowledging how cool it would have been. Also: *THADE. LOVELY THADE.*
@learnhowtobefearless
@learnhowtobefearless 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused about how the episode mentioned Hogfather wasn't cannon. Can this be explained?
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