I just like to point out the fact that ambrosia could’ve just slipped through the cracks beneath the door

i love how Kripke and the writing team absolutely hates Trump but as soon as Trump gets shot in the ear they immediately backtrack and put a disclaimer/change the finale episode title. You’re gonna make fun of MAGA and compare Trump to Homelander (a murdering rapist) but take it back once something bad happens to him irl, like pick a side maybe? Also love how much the show makes fun of how corporations use politics to make consumers buy their stuff when the show is literally funded by Amazon 😂

We see her survive out of water and die immediately out of water in the same episode. That isn't bad writing, that is horrible writing.

Whats funny that there are people who respond this valid criticism with "this show is mocking you"

I think a big issue is also that Hollywood already has a bad reputation with children being harmed and trafficked

😢😢😢 Deep killed his octopus lover, she was the only one who genuinely loved him

Homelander including groomers in his propaganda can be combined with Firecracker's propaganda. She falsely accused Starlighters of pedophilia, so Homelander's message can result in people reporting Starlighters. Also, it's not like Homelander is wrong about literally everything. He was right when he said that the lab employees could've said no to torturing him as a child. And in season 3, he fought to protect Ryan from Soldier Boy.

One of my big issues with the show is that it feels like they are constantly trying to be more gory and shocking every single episode, and I am so sick of the fans saying "just say your soft" and stuff like that, like damn bro I'm sorry I don't laugh and cheer at people being torn apart in insane detail

Also Homelander kind of felt like he had filler episodes this season. He says that he's tired of sycophants and pple kissing his ass all the time, so he finds S. Sage, someone who stands up to him and tells her opinions. Later on, he ends up siding with Firecracker who's a super ass kisser and then fires Sage? He said he wanted to stop his need for love and attention before murdering those scientists, but then Firecracker uses that to easily influence him? What was the point then? HL had no development this season.

Yes, the script went bananas really fast this season. But shttttt don't tell it to the fanboys.

HE KILLED HER BECAUSE HE WAS ASHAMED OF HER HE LITERALLY HAD HER IN THE CLOSET

Poor Hughie, all that trauma just to be laughed at by the showrunner

I wonder how season 5 will play out if Trump wins.

Another thing I want to point out is how A-Train fighting Deep. Like why did Deep even last remotely that long against a literal speedster? We literally saw A-Train statue Starlight in bullet time when he used his super speed, so how is it even remotely possible Deep was able to throw even a single punch at A-Train before getting punched in the gills 600 times?

My favourite is Homelander, not because he is endearing, redeemable or sympathetic, but because he is interesting, and his actor steals the show everytime he is on screen.

On today’s episode of “the Writers’ barely disguised fetish…”

What??? The very idea of ANYONE in Hollywood being a PDF file or a groomer is PREPOSTEROUS....* * Sarcasm

Your wrong about The Deep his character development for this season is that he wants to be more violent because as he said it violence is power and he is starting to see himself as Superior better than any human being or a rathful god are you even paying attention this season him killing the octopus shows how far he will go even killing sea life that's what he said to Homelander I will kill evey fish in the sea for you

2:56 that was supposed to be funny? That reminds me that the show runner thought Hughie getting assaulted was funny too. He’s got a weird sense of humor

In episode 6 the hughie sexual assault scene also really gets to me, not because of the scene itself (the boys has always included disturbing shit) but when the show runner said it was "hilarious" it really left a bad taste in my mouth. I think artists are responsible for their art, or they should be

The thing is, these show-writers think they're clever when they criticize religion and right-wingers, when in reality, people tuned in for the likes of Homelander, Soldier Boy, and Butcher. All the gross sex humor and Republican-bashing is at best, ignored, at worst, people think it's cringy. Now Butcher is sick, Soldier Boy is in stasis, Homelander is losing his crap, so the show is at a third of its potential in the eyes of the public.

There is a difference between liking a character like Homelander and agreeing with his actions. Fact that you like him as villain doesn't mean that you agree with his actions.

The Jan 6th shit was so on the nose this episode made my eyes roll and I let out a "Oh brother!" 😂. What happened to subtext!

Ambrosia kind of forgot she can breathe air.

The only character who thinks you should report an adult being inappropriate with you.. Is Homelander. A man who was abused and groomed his entire childhood.

So there’s actually a valid reason as to why Ambrosius suffocated to death so fast despite having been out of the water before. Octopi are able to function on land by sucking in water through their skin/gills to breathe in oxygen and then filtering out water to keep the oxygen they absorbed. Now when an octopus absorbs oxygen in their bodies, they can live on land for up to 30 minutes. But when they didn’t absorb much oxygen, they cannot survive out of water for long, with some only surviving for a few minutes without oxygen. We had several hints throughout previous episodes where Ambrosius asked the Deep to put her in the bigger tank or asked him to change the water tank because it was getting dirty (which also means less oxygen was left in the tank). And for those who owned fish before, we often had to change the water in their tanks to both clean it and put in new water for the fish so they won’t suffocate to death. Also, we don’t know how long Ambrosius was on the bed with The Deep (though it’s implied they are sharing a post-coital moment), so it’s possible she had been out after absorbing plenty of oxygen. So when the Deep suddenly busted her tank, in an already dirty tank likely low on oxygen, Ambrosius didn’t have enough time to breathe in what’s left of the oxygen in the tank. So she suffocated when the remaining oxygen fell out with the water and shattered glass. I admit, the show was still inaccurate with how fast she suffocated when she should’ve lasted at least a few more minutes. But the show wasn’t that far off as you all think.

Yeah, the show used to be about the supes. About how absolute power corrupts absolutely. Now it's about how evil conservatives are. The writers need to get their stuff together. I watched all of season three and the whole Soldier Boy arc amounted to nothing. They ended the season in the same place they began. It's like the last 2 seasons of GoT, or really any of the new star wars movies. They have no idea what they want to do with the existing lore. So they make stuff up without giving any thought to what came before or to what they want to do later. It's almost like they're writing each episode in a vacuum. It feels like the script meeting are "let's do something cool and figure out how it fits later. If we need to retcon, we'll retcon"

They get Starlight back: [Starlight]: "Hughie, thank goodness you knew it wasn't me! How did they mess up?" [Hughie]: "They were interested and affectionate with me."

The snowrunner coming out and saying the show has always been this way and that people need to look in the mirror if they think its different is such a terrible response to fans criticism. The fact that he mistook people liking the character of homelander for them thinking he was the hero proves how out of touch he has become. I think the popularity of the show has gone to his head and if the show continues for multiple more seasons with sub par writing its going to be looked back on with a negative hue like game of thrones after season 8

Crazy how we care more about the octopus than deep

I really hated how Homelander lied about his victim being a pedo, in an obvious parody of one of Rittenhouse's attackers being a convicted sexual predator. Are the writers trying to gaslight us into thinking that the guy wasn't a pedo? I think this is emblematic of the show's "satire" in general, about how bad the writers are at strawmanning their opponents.

Hughie has been being abused lately...everything okay? Because it is implied he slept with a shapeshifter unknowingly...which is weird

Ambrosia dying instantly after her tank is shattered when they showed her being completely fine outside of the water *in the same episode* REALLY bothered me, what happened with this show? The writing keeps getting worse!

Unfortunately, today we as a society have no clue of the fact, that in real life, sometimes, and evil person can also do good things. They are not the "twirling moustache with a top hat" guy always looking for something evil to do. Even looking back at the most evil leaders in history, most if not all have accomplished some things that were a positive for society. Unfortunately, that is dwarfed by the size of the negative that they achieve, not to mention it is not like a lot of writers today have any depth to their writing. Basically they just self insert, or base everything on their personal beliefs.

Honestly, this season is more miss than hit. I did enjoy the V'd up sheep to be honest, it is right with Voughts purview. When they started bashing the right wingers like they did, I just had to roll my eyes. Also can this show tone down on the god danmed sex shit?

Deep is a White male. He can't be redeemed. They made A-Train and Black Noir Black despite them being White in the comics and removed A-Train trying to grape Starlight so that the Black characters could be redeemable. Deep is actually Black in the comic so the diversity quota would be reached if they kept them accurate. But A-Train being fast I guess meant he needed to be Black. Victoria is a White man in the comics. She is set up in the show as a redeemable character because she's a female POC now. Maeve has been the only redeemable white original member of the 7 from when the show started, and that is obviously because they made her a lesbian which she is not in the comic. In the comic she only had relationships with men. The alignment to the far left in this show is so on the nose. It would be funny if this were made by a Right Winger making fun of what Leftists believe about the Right. But this is actually just Left wing pandering.

First season was fantastic, second season was "Meh" I'll watch it. Third started to be food my dog refuse to eat. Did not look fourth, but looks like shiiiiite.

I honestly I thought the same time about them making the left almost saying that it’s werid for to think massing around with small kids is wrong. But I mean the timing for The Boys talking about paedophiles is Hilarious with all the drama coming out with Drake and P. Diddy. Especially since people were denying this even happen for years. the timing was sooooo bad, not to mention certain teachers getting caught Doing some shady stuff with their students and then telling them not to tell their parents.

I've heard a theory that the Deep's ability actually just allows for telepathic control of aquatic animals, but the very personalities of those animals are subconsciously created by the Deep himself. That is, animals still remain simple animals with simple instincts and desires, locked in their own body, which, like a meat puppet, is controlled by the subconscious desires of the Deep, caused by his complexes and fears. From this position, all dialogues with the octopus are a dialogue between the Deep and himself and are in no way tied to the state of the octopus itself. Although in this theory animals suffer even more and more senselessly.

I was expecting ambrosia to slip under the door and say"now was that necessary kevin? Are you done?"

I feel compelled to point out that with the reveal that Starlight is the shapeshifter, episode seven is the second episode IN A ROW where Hughie gets sexualy assaulted. The legal term is called Rape By Deception, for those curious.😠

I honestly wished the director and writers when it came to this whole world would be more open-minds because I think that is an important thing that’s needed in order for this world to feel real like it did for me in the first season, they have to view things from all sides and perspectives. How do you make a world believable if many of the people in it don’t feel believable, and I know that the right have people like you’ve seen in the show but they present it like it’s almost all of them which I don’t believe at all. I would do my research why they believe in what they believe and humanize all sides and present that in the end there are good people and some bad people wherever side your on, either having good intentions or selfish ones, there are many types of people in real life and just like I was taught about celebrity culture, can also teach what both sides want and parodying them the same but understanding that they just want to do what they think is right. I think I just want the show runners to parody real life but having the parody containing truth to it in a world with superheroes with an open-mind I’m someone that LOVES superheroes so it was cool to see an idea of a possible reality if superheroes existed. That’s what made The Boys so great for me and enjoyable since it felt pretty real with how things happen which made the world feel like its own character in some way (since it’s an almost reflection to ours) The rest is just what I imagined sometime ago from inspiration of this show and what I would do if I could make a spin-off: I would love to make a show about a college student with a personality resembling Spider-Man having superpowers and genuinely a good person that wants to help people but he is in The Boys universe so he quickly realizes either by doing it himself or seeing another Sup hurt an innocent person on accident with powers and he trains himself so that no person gets hurt and that he can handle situations the best he can. He is going to make mistakes and it’s going to almost break him at times. It also makes the setting of this world great because we have seen how people can get killed with powers so it makes it terrifying when the protagonist needs to find a way to make sure no one gets hurt or killed by the villain. We also get how people would respond to him and how the media would possibly respond to him. Maybe Vought wants to hire him but he knows that he would be selling his soul for money and won’t be able to help as many people as he currently is doing. (I can imagine him being a wholesome guy helping old ladies cross the street when there is no crime happening). There is so many interesting scenarios that can happen with the people in it, the dangers, the fame, governments. All of it is there to show what could happen if there were superheroes in our world and the perspective of an actual hero who wants to bring hope and even when things feel dark and hopeless, he wants to be there to bring joy to people and to feel safe when he is there (the opposite to how the audience feels when Homelander is with normal people)

Theory….. she didn’t pop the sheep as if she did the virus would have gone everywhere and infected her, starlight and Kimiko. Even in the barn it would have gone everywhere outside. She kinda panicked when the chickens started fighting

I know ambrosia was supposed to be sad but… I can’t stop laughing at the exaggerated breath and he says “oh my god” or how I interpreted it “dam bitch die”

The Hughie grape scene and how the writer/showrunner spoke about it was so horrible

They changed writers lol and you can tell.

Homlander is doing literally doing nothing for kids it's literally just a talking point

Can we go back to progressive writers that actually give a damn about story and interesting characters? Like Gene Roddenberry and his team with Star Trek.

The Deep is so out of character.. Old Deep would have thrown her back in the ocean, then accidentally gotten her killed by a predator or something.

I haven't seen the show, but I've heard many opinions about it and one of my best friends has seen it with her boyfriend, who is a fan of the show. But when I heard about the showrunner's response to the backlash Hughie's rape scene had caused, where he simply downplayed Hughie's trauma saying "Well, THAT'S a dark way to put it! We find it hilarious!", and told my friend, she was very disappointed to hear that response from him, being a survivor and long-time fan of the show herself. And as a writer who is trying my damnedest to portray this one rape subplot in my own story, including showing the horrific consequences and gradual recovery during his journey (my protagonist is a male), I found Eric Kripke's comments just disgusting. Rape is one of the worst things you can do to another person, male or female, and society as a whole has made it difficult for men and boys to come forward because they don't get taken seriously. So to see potential representation for male rape survivors get glossed over and laughed at by the showrunner, while female rape survivors still get representation that's handled with care and taken seriously (let's not forget that Starlight was sexually-assaulted in Season 1, yet her trauma was treated with care, unlike Hughie's trauma), just sickens me. And it's not just Hughie, as there have been other male rapes in the show that I heard weren't taken seriously either. I thought we were on our way to getting past this? Why is sexual assault funny when it happens to guys? There is just no way he would have called it hilarious if it was another female character without some tremendous backlash...

I'm a Christian with a fair tolerance for satire. I mean, I watch South Park ffs... The Boys this season was just outright offensive to people like me and you can feel the burning hatred the show writers have for conservative Christians straight through the characters and dialogue. The scene that lost me for good was when Firecracker thanked Christ for leading a child into her life and making her a pedo so she can have a redemption arc. That's not satirical or fun, more of just a hate-fueled mockery and dumbing down of my beliefs in an attempt to paint Christians as evil. (Invoking the name of my God to make a pedophile joke?! Comedy????) When you're watching a tv show and can almost feel the writer whispering through the show into your ear 'I f****ing hate you and your kind' well then it ceases to be entertainment for a lot of people and I won't support it any longer. Even just from a writing perspective, the opinions are so hamfisted that you might as well be looking at the scowling joyless man behind the curtain. We could all take a lesson from Mr. Rogers when it comes to entertainment: "It's not a joke unless everyone can laugh."

One of the things in our modern society that amazes me is how obsessed people are about praising unhealthy (obesity) , dangerous (permanent body altering "upgrades/downgrades"), and almost religious belief in certain modern trends as though if they are natural cult members worshiping their deity. Excuse me, if I had kids today, I would care. And furthermore, anyone who would make fun of me for that, they would be at the top of my list to as suspects who would actually be a danger to my children. And for the hundreds time, why is it that childless leftist people are so concerned with how others raised theirs? If it was not concerning 10 years ago, now it is just creepy. And their "oh look how stupid you are for thinking we want to indoctrinate your kid does not make it less suspicion, it does more!" My sister took her beloved kids from public school long ago, when I wasn't even aware of these things that every left leaning moviemaker has a need to talk in every movie and show. Today, I'm just becoming to realize that very normal people worried about these dangerous trends and things that are a very real harm to their children 10-15 years ago. Today, I can only confirm, they were right all along.

Ill be straight up the only character who has a cohesive and compelling arc is A Train. Everyone is so scattered this Season.... Butcher is barley part of the Boys anymore, Hugie is just kinda there dealing with messed up shit just for it to be glossed over every the continuing episodes, Annie just feels like she is just there, Kimiko and Frenchie are both pointless this season spending majority of the time seprate dealing with thier issues that we have seen before and when they almost have no chemistry, The Deep was pretty solid the first few episodes and now hes a joke again along with Black Noir replacment just felt like he was there for comic relief. Sage and Firecracker are both insufferable and actually dint contribute anything and are a waste of screentime. They cant decided what to do with Ashley so she is just this scared chick who gets off on BDSM, Homelander and Ryan have a good dynamic bit again they make Ryan constantly go back and fourth with Homelander and Butcher, Finally MM deserves to leave this damn mess brotha needs to be with his fam. The show slowly had some shocking gross moments in season 3 then went full euphoria in Gen V and now every episode. They have so much sexual situations or violence towards men and its played for laughs and constantly just becomes distasteful. I will say nothing has topped the Plane scene in season 1. Like its so well written and acted and somthing that gives me chills everytime i see it. Now its like how much distasteful shock value can we show on screen.

Also I'm getting really tired of the depravity. Either gives us boobs along with the peens or ease up because clearly the shock of things is more important than development. I was down for the weird stuff if it served a purpose but there are very few moral people in this show and its become annoying.

I'm glad more people are ripping this show apart. There's no way season 4 is the same show anymore. Satire is supposed to be fun and bombastic, not mean spirited and on-the-nose. Even the characters in this show are merely caricatures of themselves and are used to air out whatever grievances the writers wants, which breaks the immersion of The Boys. I'm confident that Kripke and his echo chamber are going full mask off this season with no means of turning back...

One thing specifically that made me raise an eyebrow with the writing was how they painted the "Epstein didn't kill himself" thing even though the show establishes that those kinds of things happen with supes and the company protects their supes and themselves much like the Epstein list and it kinda makes me think they're painting that in a bad light which even goes against the spirit of the source material like the G-Men school being a pedophilic institution. I'm sure it's probably them just using whatever tagline used a lot from the political opposition of the writers but it feels a lot worse in this season. It's not just that but that sticks out to me because it never really took any sides before but this kinda contradicts its own writing and purpose to me. And I know a lot of people will say that it's a satire of current events but by doing things this current every season, it contradicts things going on in it's own contained story and contradicts itself as a narrative. Otherwise, it's still a fun show. It's the weakest season so far but it's not as bad as most other shows right now I think

Im glad it was mentioned just how politically one sided the show has become. Its really uncomfortable and pretty narrow sighted of the writers actually.

I fell off this show during Season 2, I really don't think I'm going back. Ever since they introduced Stormfront, I started to feel like the writers were just doing shocking things for the sake of shock value. Sometimes, some characters do things that make literally no sense but you can't point that out or people will just label you some form of -ist or -phobe and I just done with caring.

I agree with the Vic writing issue, perhaps what they are implying is she cant kill all the sheep fast enough to avoid heavy casualties. Stan, Huey, Butcher, and Frenchie would mostlikely die. Annie might be permanently maimed and Kimiko might get ripped to shreads and eaten before she can fight back. Whatever the case, they didnt address why Vicky would just run. Maybe it would be better if she was shown fighting them off while they run. The octopus part I think implies that the octopus is trapped there to die since the Deep is mad. But doesnt explain why she cant breath as soon as the aquarium gets rekt. They maybe put that there for morbid comedy but forgot it would leave a massive plot hole. Also, the Deep is motivated to show his real shitty side this season and killing his octopus gf is that line he crossed to truly give in his darker tendencies. I mean he already did kill(ate) his friend. I think all the stuff he did for Vought and Homelander, even tho against his will, has now corrupted him. He has the opposite arc with A-train. I get what they doing with him but yeah, its not written as well as we all hoped.

12:35 well, the “please think of the children!” Line is an annoying bit both sides throw out as a dodge on more concrete issues so I shut it down with “I don’t care about kids that aren’t mine or related to me so let’s keep talking about the crony capitalism that’s rampant.”

It always parodied different political groups, but damn has it been annoying how blunt and poor it is particularly portraying the right. 😂

I can’t really get behind this argument that impressionable children watching The Boys are going to misunderstand the line in the propaganda song about grooming. It doesn’t matter if children are ignoring viewer guidelines watching the show. It's not the responsibility of TV writers to control that. A series made and intended for mature audiences shouldn’t have to cater to younger audiences. They shouldn’t have to be worrying about 'influencing' their audience when it was made for fully grown adults who are responsible enough to make their own informed decisions. No one should be getting their lessons on politics from The Boys, but that doesn’t mean the show is wrong to use its narrative to criticize or make fun of extremist talking points. If it’s not obvious to someone that the grooming line was directed at people who accuse left leaning activists of grooming with no basis, then they are not mature enough to watch this show. I also completely disagree that only the 'bad guys' appear concerned for children when a major character arc for Kimiko this season was about facing her past and wanting to stop the terrorist group that abducts and hurts children like what happened to her as a child. Both Kimiko and Frenchie are griping with this reality that they were forced to do horrible things as children and have harmed and killed other children in the process, and they're trying to process this while coming to terms with how they can make things right.

Considering Homelander childhood, he probably has a real and good reason for the child indoctrination and groomers lyric.

The Deep didnt kill Tilda for "no reason". Sage turned him against her by giving him confidence and reinforcing that with sexual favors. There's Nothing like a willing woman, to blow a guys ego up. When octopussy called him out for cheating....and other characters like Butcher have called him out for being involved with cephalopods, the relationship began to cost too much for him socially. It made him feel pathetic when ppl picked on him fo his sea creature-fucking. He doesn't like being pathetic and the butt of every Robot Chicken joke. Sage has given him a way out, killing Tilda...that is the price of his confidence.....the price of his rebranding 😅

It's because the left is getting so far left is why you are noticing it

She’s so on the money with the welfare system…we make just enough to be struggling but not enough to qualify for assistance. If we get married, it’ll be worse.

The writing decisions and the subsequent rationalizing by fans is baffling. The octopus scene DIRECTLY contradicts what was set up a few minutes before. I thought it's just right-wingers getting mad about the overly woke tone of the series. But they are right. When activism becomes more important than consistency then the writing suffers. A lot.

Honestly, i am bothered by Atrains redemption arc. Did we forget what he did to Popclaw? To Robin? Well, Hughey sure forgot about Robin quickly, once Starlight was in the picture...

Personally, I thought the horror of the puppet song wasn’t what they asking the kids to report on JUST that the were being asked to report on their parents full stop.

To me out of whack is Starlights abortion after effects. No shot whole movement just vanished however, when she got hugs from a stranger was weird and what do you know, it was a shapeshifter. Literally if you know everyone abondened you wouldn't you be more wary if someone was like "hey Starlight with happy face", I'm not a people's expert.

Hey Alteori, just finished this video. i watched it twice to make this comment to ensure I didn't miss anything. No offense but I think you missed the mark a bit on this one. Vought/Homelander isn't saying to report bad people, they are saying that the people that they would like to be reported are bad people. The propoganda isn't saying to report gromers, it's to report Starlighters, because Starlighters are "x bad thing" when in reality they aren't, but Vought is tacking it on to make them sound absurdly bad. Plus something so serious being sung in a ridiculous uppity christmas son is also the point, so you going out of your way to actual explain/educate on these things is missing the point imo. And I know you said that you don't want sympathy, but the argument you used was based in pathos (which I feel doesn't work in this context), despite saying you're making the argument to inform others. No hate, just constructive criticism. I enjoyed the video and thought all your points were interesting, regardless if I disagree with these 3 points or not. Have a nice day^^

6:20 Or (OR) maybe (MAYBE) they're trying to be a bit subtle with this number, and the point is that the bad guys are mixing good takes in with the bad ones, to slide the bad ones in. As in, yes, of course kids should report groomers. The subliminal message of the song is: "Everyone who doesn't like supes IS a groomer, or some other baddie, because why would a good law-abiding citizen be against supes? Supes are great. Trust supes. Submit to supes."

You haven't heard of MAPs? Wish i could remain this blussfully anaware.

We're so divided against each other these days, it feels like we become irrational, stuff like that apparent message in The Boys is evidence. They're so against anyone on the opposite side that they'll use pin any stereotypes on their straw man to known it down, regardless of if the stereotype is actually good and thus mocking it is putting oneself in the wrong. We've fallen so far as a society, I hope that...event recently serves as a wake up call for us to set aside our differences and try and get along.

I felt like the whole season seems off. I couldn't get past the first 2 episodes of Gen V. It seems like the writer of Gen V is the same for season 4. I also don't care for what the writing is blatantly doing. I don't wanna freely accuse people of preying on the young because I'd need evidence. I will admit, I am on disability and I hate it. I been working on a comic and writing for sometime. I hope I can get to the point and sell stuff and maybe get off disability if I do well enough. Also Alteori, you are not wrong about the whole "sketchiness" of it all. Tbh WHYYYYYYY did they give the octopus A VOICE!? lol. Js my fave character is Butcher.

Anyone else thinj the Deep having full conversations with animals is weird, like no one in this universe is phased by the discovery that sea creatures are fully sentient with human level intellect and language capability?

First the series parodied perfectly corporate culture, now its trying to critique conservatives and non woke people and it bleeds too much the mentality of the writers, that kinda sucks for me.

Hear me out now, maybe, just MAYBE, ambrosia was exaggerating how quickly she was dying in order to make him feel bad and save her.

Season 1 was a jab at Disney and Warner Bros. Season 2 was a jab at cancel culture and media. Season 3 was great because of Soldier Boy. Season 4 is a mess, I’m not excited for the last season.

Idk they are pushing like vought is christian friendly yet also had a transgender bathroom during a party this season. The writer is making it where its not even fun watching it. Its more welp i watched the other seasons might as well finish this one.

The scene where the octopus is immediately suffocating after water tank being smashed really had the writing go off the Deep end.

Some of your criticisms feel like you missed the point. It’s important to punch up in satire because by and large, left leaning people aiming for improved social equity while conservatives literally want to enforce Christian-National Authoritarianism. Everyone agrees that child abuse/grooming is horrible and should be punished. Yet shown in the show, mirroring real life, the people parroting this concern (FireCracker, that kinky News Host) for children use it as a front to target marginalized groups of people. (They falsely accuse the starlight house of “trafficking” kids, which are at risk homeless queer teens) And I can understand your perspective, as I was a child fed by food stamps, have seen other families misuse EBT. Yet I still dont think it’s a valid issue to try and repeal because, again, republicans use the “welfare queen” straw man to take food from a largely starving population. Courtesy of rich people in charge of our government Over all this show was ultimately filler leading to season 5. The stakes were practically gone most the season, Deep is still alive, The Boys got stranded by Vampire Sheep despite having Neuman, our OP blood bender, there was no tangible plot development, we barely got some character redemptions, like with A-Train FINALLY realizing that being an Uncle Tom is gonna get him killed. I’m excited for the Finale but my god, they need more writers in the room to focus on the characters finishing their stories 😩

The only kid getting groomed in the story is Ryan. Groomed by Vought and his own father to be a corporate tool. Agree they messed up the Deep storyline though.

This new season is complete dog shit. Even ignoring the politics (which is so in your face it’s basically impossible to ignore) they didn’t even get to the main storyline until episode fucking 7! I 100% guarantee the creator will just double down on everything people hate for the final season because his mind is so twisted by politics.

I like the points you made but at the same time the I think the whole puppet thing was just trying to Show how uncomfortable ryan is with his situation with homelander. I think you're kind of overthinking that part of the episode other than that the other points you made Are pretty good

It is not the shows responsibility (especially one whos foundation is set upon political and social satire) to teach minors who may be watching what they should and should not do. That is a failure on the parents side and you saying "this may come off to kids watching as (ect)" is like government officials trying to blame video games for shootings

It seems like you either watched the show while playing subway surfer or you are being purposely disingenuous with the way you frame what the writers are saying. Multiple times in the show, its shown that characters "on the left" care about children safety. MM freaks out when Todd brings his daughter to a Homelander rally, and all the people in the starlight house are disgusted by what Firecracker did . Firecracker gets away with her actions unharmed, and the people obsessing with Starlight being a pedo are ridiculed by Kamiko for not caring about real victims, only ones that align with their agenda. You also don't understand that the issue with the welfare state is the limitations it puts on families that require the income to survive, and instead you talk about moochers which is a red herring. If the welfare system was better those people you mentioned could follow out their dreams while still having the welfare system to fallback on if they fall short. I honestly came in with an open mind but you are just interested in holding water for MAGA while cosplaying as a centrist. Cute.

I noticed all this too and think its very dangerous

This Eric Kripke can't be the same Eric Kripke who gave us Supernatural seasons 1-5. How far has his writing fallen.

This season does parody the right more than previous seasons, but the left still aren't portrayed as perfect. Starlighters are meant to be our stand ins, & Starlight herself has been consistently deconstructed this season(perhaps a little too flawed in that weird ass argument with Hughie at the end). Hughie highlights this in his speech to the boys in the finale, as he talks about how easy it's gotten to go too far & that it's stronger to forgive. Something that's been extremely difficult for the far left in recent years. The show isn't even going after the right as a whole, just the far extreme right. Whether you're liberal or in the middle, the show gave us exactly what it feels like to be on the outside of right-wing extremism looking in. Even on the puppet show, I respectfully disagree. Many members of the left, or if you're trans, or even gay get consistently slapped with a groomer label lately. If you're not right, then you're the enemy. Which... your reaction, I think, perfectly sums up how dangerous that mentality is. If we can't tell the difference between an actual groomer or who the right says is a groomer, then that's not a good spot to be in. Flawed season, for sure, but I'm hyped after that ending.

Fucking exactly. I'm not into politics at all, I don't know what left or right stand for, but they're making Vaught and Homelander say some stuff that we're suppose to say is evil and wrong because Homelander and Vaught are evil, however some of the things they say are fine to me or I completely agree which hasn't been the case in previous seasons as far as I recall. This season I've no idea who to root for. I went from wanting Butcher to kill everyone at Vaught, to kind of just want either Butcher or Homelander to kill everyone so the show can end. It became that crappy to me. They're not consistent anymore with their messaging. There's a ton more gross scenes now too. Unnecessarily so. Like they're just there to make you feel grossed out or shocked, no other purpose. Also want Frenchie and Kimiko to get together. We've been building it up for 3 seasons and then suddenly "you and me we're never gonna happen". Huh? Since when? Did I miss something? Been fast forwarding through their scenes until this episode out of annoyance. Also Hughie and Victoria have more chemistry than Hughie and Starlight. Ever since Hughie was working for her. Different people have different couple dynamics so I wouldn't find Hughie and Starlight relationship weird if I didn't see Hughie and Victoria relationship. And yes, please report groomers, predators, even if you're just a bystander suspecting it. If you're a victim, most people, normal people, won't judge you or shame you for it, so please come forward. I say that because I know some people don't come forward because they're ashamed or fear others will look at them differently. But you don't need to be. We hate the pieces of shit that hurt or take advantage of others, not the victims.

They were clearly bothered by the fact that people actually grew to like The Deep. Despite the very horrible thing he did in season 1. People kind of liked watching him go threw his penetrance and soul searching journey. It read to me that they had him kill Ambrosia for no other reason but to try and make the viewers dislike The Deep. It's not writing, it's character manipulation.

I mean it turned into a representation of what TDS does to the mind.

It feels like there was a season in between 3 and 4 that nobody saw. Ashleys character took such a hard turn i was sure I'd missed something. She went from a beleiver, to being terrified of supes when the veil is lifted. Forced to do a job she hates for people she fears but can't leave. Literally pulls her hair out from the stress of it but now suddenly she's happy getting freaky in a supes humiliation dungeon? What??!

Alteori, for the chemistry between actors(Hughie and Starlight), i don't know if it's still going but in real life the actor of Hughie and the actress of Vicky(head-popper) were/are dating, notice how in season 2 or 3, they had a better back and forth in scenes where they're together.

Kevin realized violence is power

To me the funnies part about this season firecracker and sister sage being Stormfront divided into two characters. Like for real tho. Sage is a smart manipulator part and firecracker is the sexy racist part who he falls in love with. and it's funny because when they killed her off I was like Why? She fits him perfectly. There was such potential. And now they just brought her back as two characters only it's worse now because the writing is not as good as it use to be

Centrists are just conservatives who are smart enough to know it's embarrassing

Tbh, I only started watching the show for Soldier Boy. Nothing after him is worth the time.

That reporting on neighbors happened in USSR way more, so far that they wouldn't care if it was right or not *Get Gulagged*