more of this. Much better than B&Os own videos.

@@jungtarcph Thank you very much! I do my best to try and make it as entertaining and informative as possible at the same time. Also being in the real world helps :p

Hi Mikipedia. Is the beosound balance really better as the beosound 2?

@@skunkfan123 oh yes, in terms of sheer sound it really is not even close!

@@Mikipedia Okay. My first real high end bluetooth speaker is the beosound balance

It really is superb with sound, it can go ridiculously loud so much so that it's painful :p more videos with sound tests coming soon :D Thanks for watching!

It sure sounds like it, yes. That's a bit unfortunate to hear honestly. When you run room compensation it obviously adjust to how the surroundings are and it makes a world of difference as it knows how to respond to the room/place it's in. Unless it was a broken unit but I sincerely doubt that. Either way, a Beosound 2 is a very beautiful speaker to look as and sounds very good too. There are no bad decision there :p

I like them both and I think it may be on purpose that it's not so in your face, believe it or not but not everyone likes that much aluminium (blasphemy :p). If the trade of is alu for this much more power then I personally don't think is a bad trade. It maybe something you look at less because it's not as pretty, but you'll listen to it more as the sound is huge, clear and detailed. If you can, go see it IRL, it's worth it :)

I shall do my best and will, but a lot comes down to youtube compression so it won't be exactly fair vs real life. So watch this space, but the best place is still your local dealer :D

ps I can't stereo pair them, I had them pre launch and the pairing software is only now available. I obviously had to bring them back otherwise my dealer would have nothing to show in the shop lol but I'll have a comparison to a beosound 2.

We'll see how it is fully fledged out, but at least AP2 is very stable and works great. I don't like the decision but I must say even I use AP2 the most nowadays. Thanks for watching and commenting :D

A joy to watch, but the decision to drop proprietary multiroom support from the new sound engine seems to forego everything that set B&O apart. I hope we'll see some magic of sorts in the coming months.

Mikipedia what source do you use with AP2? Ap2 compression is terrible with high Bitrate. And chromecast isn’t working properly ether. Looses connection to speakers and or phone. I’m really disappointed that B&O are killing beolink.

@@piffling do you mean this in general? or in my video? or specifically with the Beosound Balance? I ask because I don't find this at all in my case. I generally check with good headphones too once in a while an I have a hard time noticing any sort of quality drop(if any at all) over AP2, depending on that I do I use Deezer hifi (the highest quality one) and just KZfaq(tried others too). I don't use Chrome-cast personally, only AP2, and I've had no connection issues. If anything it's really strong and I can leave the house be at the end of the network(which is really far) and it's fine. I have a 2 second buffer setup with Deezer so maybe that helps? I also set AP2 from my phone and never from with in what ever app I am using, maybe that helps too? I do agree on the beolink decision though, we'll see what they have in stock for us :p

I would have bought it if it supported Beolink. Can't believe B&O is dropping Beolink. A huge disappointment to me.

they are both wasted money

@@Mario_Terzi why you hated b&o? I think your cheap and can't afford to buy b&o products!😝

@@lucarossi9055 You're wrong, I buy more expensive products, the difference being that they're worth their price.

@@Mario_Terzi I have 2 b&o products both are worth it for the price! The logic is have you tried???😝

@@Mario_Terzi When You buy B&O you also buy the design, which is without a doubt the best when it comes to Home Audio If you are not a self proclaimed Audio expert you don‘t really care about all the technical details

Hi Albert, it's the same a s the beosound 2 and will be 2000 euro. Thanks for watching :D

He only loves the really expensive stuff so no :p It's weird how much my cats like B&O lol I have some E8 3.0 too, they're really good! Hope you'll have fun using them! congrats on the purchase :D

@@Mikipedia Thanks for your rapid response :) forgot to mention that I also own the B&O Beoplay A1 bluetooth speaker and the Beoplay A2 Bluetooth speaker both in black! I love the way they both sound it's impressive & addicting so getting the E8's 3.0 would make it my third purchase. :) btw on your E8's 3.0 do they fit good inside your ears? because I had tried the 1st gen version one point they never fit into my ears that great so I returned them, I'm hoping with these a third times the charm! :)

yes mine fitted properly although i did have to put the thicker ear pieces on it. You get a little bag of them anyway, so you'll probably be good :p

yes, via line in. Depending on the outputs your turntable has you can get a cable from soundsheavenly.com like rca to 3.5mm or any other type, but that's on you to figure out :p

When I had the the software wasn't ready yet for stereo pairing as it was pre launch. I'll look into getting them again for some stereo pairing on video, but it'll basically be excellent :p

I wouldn't change honestly, the sound sort of similar but the balance has less natural stereo separation. (it has line in too btw) I think the A9 is better for your described purposes honestly

104 db spl if I recall correctly

Wow! Amazing for a speaker of this size! I just checked on B&O official website and made the bellow specs comparison between the A9 (with Google assistant) and the Beosound Balance. The A9 has only a 100 dB SPL maximum loudness compare to the 104 of the Beosound Balance. For bass, the former has 2 woofers drivers of 5,25” fed with 2 class D amplifiers at 200 W for each woofer while the A9 has one woofer fed with 1 class D amplifier at 400 W. For midrange, only the A9 has 2 x 3” midrange drivers fed by 2 class D amplifiers at 200 W each. The Beosound seams to have no midrange drivers. For full range, while the A9 has 2x1/1/2” full range drivers fed by 2 class D amplifiers at 200 W each, the Beosound Balance has 2x3” full range drivers and 2x2” full range drivers each fed at 100 W each. Finally, while the A9 has 2x3/4” tweeters fed with 2 class D amplifiers at 150 W each, the Beosound Balance has 1x3/4 tweeters fed by 1 class D amplifier at 80 W. The same specs continue to suggest the A9 for a room size between 150 and 1000 square feet while the Beosound Balance is recommended for a room size between 100 and 600 square feet. My point is that I remain astound that the Beosound Balance reaches a maximum loudness of 104 dB SPL while the bigger A9 is behind at 100 dB SPL. I will really appreciate, if possible, that some lights be shed here. Otherwise, this situation could require, among others, two solutions: 1/ the price tag of the A9 should be reconsidered or 2/ the A9 needs some serious updates to increase its maximum loudness and some other specs perhaps better justify the difference in the price tag among the two speakers. Personally, I have in mind an A9 as a future purchase. I love its originality among all other B&O speaker design. If it should be updated as suggested by me, I will than wait for this updated version of the A9. For example, the current A9 works with Bluetooth 4.2 while the Beosound Balance works with Bluetooth 5.0 which is 2x faster, has 4x the range of its predecessor and download 8x data. Keep alive the flame of those who continue to believe in B&O’s unique way of bringing together art and technology. Kudos for your KZfaq channel.

I would use airplay 2 or chrome cast if at all possible, Bluetooth is a back up option for me. Therefor I wouldn't pay too much attention to that spec and also I have the H4 headphones with BT 4.2 and I can walk away from my phone for atleast 12 meter/ 40 feet with walls in between, so I doubt 5.0 is actually 4x better(iam sure it's better but not that much). Depending on how big the room is, if it's on the smaller end I'd go with the balance. If it's on the larger end like a living room, I'd go with the A9. Iam sure the balance could reach 104db, but that doesn't mean all of the frequency band reaches that. With the A9 more of the frequency range will hit that maximum and we know for sure the bass will hit 94 db which is incredibly loud. If you need it this loud a lot of the time you're probably deaf and or looking at the wrong speaker lol

@@Mikipedia can I ask? Which is a most powerfull speaker for MacBook Pro 16-inch M1 Max between Devialet Phantom Reactor 600 95 DB & Devialet Phantom Reactor 900 98 DB vs B&O Beosound Balance?

@@dharmaandra4720 No because if the max power is what you're after then I'd be recommending hearing loss for any of them. Also power imho is not the metric to go by, it's important yes, but if going louder adversely impacts sound quality it's useless imho.

Hi Eric, no battery it's just heavy because of all the gear inside. it's ridiculously powerful :p

I had my cats do it and they loved it, they were all over them for the time I had those speakers here :p

Beosound 2 suits my ear better plus its cheaper. Any thoughts of why I should get beosound balance too?

lol Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

@@Mikipedia sorry, can I just ask, which of the 2 speakers produce a more precise and clearer highs notes? I like the Beosound Balance, but I think the Beosound 2 can produce a clearer high note…

​@@james800able Balance for sure, but the inverted ALT lens on the BS2 sure makes is airy and we perceive that as clearer. So it's a difference in perception vs measuring. The ALT lens on the BS2 also makes is way more omnidirectional which gives more of that airy and open tweeter perception. I like em both for how they sound, the balance sounds better, but the BS2 isn't miles off and it does look the part. That's why I went with the BS2 personally

@@Mikipedia Hi! Thank you for your kind advice and information! Well-noted! 😊

Never a bad decision, it's not like they wont be up for sale or run away or something :p I was exactly in the same boat as you, in the end I went for the BS2 because it's only in a small corner of the room where the power difference matters little.

@@Mikipedia same boat here ,I love the design of the BS2 , can you connect 2 together ?

@@MrChrisr34 In the Google home app you can via ChromeCast, or reach out to Steve from Soundsheavenly and he can make you a cable. But it's sort of a stereo speaker so you'll have double stereo which sounds a bit odd because you have left and right from both left and right, unless you get a special cable from Steve. But you can also use them at the same time via multiroom, but you'll get double stereo again. So long story short, yes you can BUT it's not ideal unless you go through Steve and even then you'll need a wired signal as input because wireless it won't do that other than through ChromeCast. (even the short answer is long lol)

@@Mikipedia thanks for the reply appreciate it , I prefer the design of the BS2 but mainly bout the sound for me so will get the balance , where would the best place be to get in UK or just do it through B&O themselves?

@@MrChrisr34 B&O of Manchester of course! Best service in the country imho.

I am not sure I understand your question, to which one? I don't get it :p

Sorry 🤣 I meant as in sound wise BS2 or balance , problem is not heard either in person so hard to judge to be fair

Most likely will get the BS2 as love the design ,but love the sound of the system my dad had so just wondered what would be closest to that signature sound

@@MrChrisr34 Probably the Beosound 2, the Balance sounds newer more rounded in total. The Beolab 2 is very powerful compared to 8000's and almost a bit too strong for music but excellent for movies. If you want that sort of sound and above all the design is important to you, I would say go with the Beosound 2! Hope that helps?

@@Mikipedia thanks appreciate it , always had sennheiser but after my dad's system I'm switching looking to get H95 as well ,hopefully open soon and come and have a look in person

The lowest last few frequencies may not be as velvety smooth but 2 balance will be better together everywhere else.

@@Mikipedia when shops are open again here in NL I will go and check in Utrecht 🙂

@@paulhek Nice, let him know before hand and he can set it up for you and also that I sent you :p Enjoy!

@@Mikipedia thanks for the advice!

only for the remote lol I guess everyone wants the peel to stay on there for a while :p

it's the same a s the beosound 2 and will be 2000 euro. Thanks for watching :D

they haven't in over a week but they do sure love the smell and texture of it :p

I'd be g u t t e d if one of my cats touched my €2000 B&O speaker and would instantly resolve to suspend it from the ceiling

... (the speaker)

@@RWDY lol, good thing my cats listen to me so either they or the speakers don't have to be on the ceiling :p

And quite rightly too it's a joke looking thing!

it's not though as it's real oak, real aluminium and 880 watt of power!

oh, you're one of those people.

it doesn't really, the drivers move way more air on the 20's. The Balance has similar sized drivers to bl18/17's so that's why I brought it up, I have them too, and in sheer power I feel they may loose... :p

I hope one wouldn't ever equate a child to money but it's the same a s the beosound 2 and will be 2000 euro. Thanks for watching :D

no worries, it might not be for everyone. I think it might be different for people that are newer to the brand and maybe also regional differences. we'll see in the end how they sell :)

Yes ugly and expensive

hahaha no, we're not related at all! He is a mate of mine though and he's been on my channel several times, last Thursday we even did a live stream together on my channel :D John is the og of B&O KZfaq though so I take no offence at the comparison :D

it's not an omni speaker per-see, just like a beolab 90 isn't, it can be but doesn't have to be and it also sounds amazing at any volume honestly. the amount of volume it can produce is mostly amazing because of it's size!

you don't know what a coffee blender is do you? :p

limey?

Mikipedia a waffling lad :-) im ocd about getting to the facts...😂😂😂

what an odd comparison.

@@Mikipedia yesssss? look at this www.journaldugeek.com/2019/04/09/maison-connectee-ikea-sonos-lancent-gamme-de-mobilier-integrant-enceintes-connectees/

I meant the bike...

@@Mikipedia made this comparation because, a good carbon fiber road bike strats around 2000€, and i go for a bike instead a speaker, they are toooo expensive.

sure and I can have my car tuned for similar money, but it's not at all in the same category is it? you could also buy a gpu or any sort of other thing for around the same price, but again, at all the same. just imagine if your favourite bike reviewer said ''I don't like this 2000 euro carbon bike because of the quality and therefor I'd rather buy a loudspeaker'', that's just weird lol

Clearly you're wrong on several levels as not even all of it is expensive at all. Secondly you seem like the type of person that looks at a Rembrandt or van Gogh and think's ''that's a bit expensive for canvas and some paint!'' Lastly you copy paste the same comment, which is rather lazy and unoriginal.

@@Mikipedia I'm not wrong at all, the proof is that these no-longer-new products lose a lot of their inflated value. Let's also not confuse art with design, which are two different things. Art is eternal, design is a fad of time. At my place, several stores that only sold B&O have closed, while the art gallery is still open.

lol, what are you smoking? It must be strong...

@@Mikipedia Look, for me you can buy as many B&Os as you want. Everyone is free to throw money where they want.