The Brand New EGO CSX5000 vs STIHL MS400c - Professional Ground Chainsaws meet Battery Power!

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2 ай бұрын

Can the EGO CSX5000 ProX chainsaw perform as well as a Stihl MS400C? EGO have finally made a 20" chainsaw for professionals, is it as powerful as a Stihl? Battery professional power! #chainsaw #chainsaws #stihl #stihlchainsaw #egopowerplus #egopower #treesurgeon #treecare #treework
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@sneak6654 2 ай бұрын

The new EGO chainsaw is very impressive and I think it would be perfect for a homeowner who has an acre or so of property to take care of windblown trees and large branches after a windstorm for example. Electric chainsaws can sit for months without being used and you don’t have to worry about the fuel going bad and clogging up the carburetor and fuel system. But for big jobs where you are running the saw for hours the battery powered saws don’t have the run time that the gas saws do.

@jronmanbuilds 2 ай бұрын

Finally a review of the actual commercial 20 in and not the other model.

@VintageEngineRepairs 2 ай бұрын

One important feature that wasn’t mentioned here - that chain on the ego is smaller (.325 pitch) than the stihl (3/8 pitch), which puts more load on the Stihl. If the stihl was running .325, it would cut even quicker than it currently is. 3/8” pitch is standard on saws above 50cc for good reason - they are a more robust chain.

@russellpetrie119 2 ай бұрын

impressive but how many cuts between charges compared to tank full of feul on the sthil?

@AngryManSki 2 ай бұрын

In reality, you’d need to bring multiple batteries which is very expensive up front. I don’t think this is really for professionals as opposed to a home or ranch owner due to what you’ve pointed out.

@ladislavgazdik7595 2 ай бұрын

It is approximately 1 liter of fuel = 10 kg of batteries.

@jophoto934 2 ай бұрын

Definitely wanna see more tests

@DavidSanders-ik2kx 2 ай бұрын

Hi always really enjoy watching your videos. Just wondered when you do your reviews whether you could give an average price for the battery tools so people can compare with the petrol equivalent , as I think it will help people decide as factor along with others whether it’s worth changing or upgrading to battery equipment. Great work as always

@barnyard27 2 ай бұрын

I will be buying the Ego commercial saw. Please do more videos like this!

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Will do, thank you 👌🏽

@yesjes11 2 ай бұрын

I run a Stihl MS362, and a MSA 70, i like the battery on smaller stuff and having it ready when i need it doing splitting the firewood, the MS362 is for felling and bucking up larger wood obiously. The batterysaw is so convenient for smaller stuff or single cuts, because you dont have to warm it up. I would have liked you to address the elephant in the room: vibrations and weight, i havent tried the EGO, but it defenitely looked a lot rougher on you, even though it used a smaller pitched chain. the small pitch chain defenitely helped it with cutting speed in the smaller wood.

@tinkeringtaylor3053 2 ай бұрын

Hi James, battery equipment is getting better but for cutting big stuff i still prefer the petrol, great review and demonstration 👍

@em4703 2 ай бұрын

I think it will be decades until an electrical chainsaw will be above everything else spec wise to a modern 70-90cc chainsaw. And even then certain environments and situations will call in for the 2 stroke. I like electric tophandle saws for being so quiet, but its hard to beat the weight of an echo 2511. So for now, electric is heavy, underpowered (but amazing torque if you’re not in a rush), and they are not built to be easily repaired by the average person. They’re still repair friendly because they use standard available electric parts across brands

@garytompkins3761 2 ай бұрын

Big question, was the chain and bar a good match up , was the Stihl using a chipper chain which would make it cut a bit faster. And what is the amp size of the EGO battery.. great video, thanks

@DJC995 2 ай бұрын

Hi James Nice one be good to have a more in-depth look thanks again

@garrettnelson1642 2 ай бұрын

Impressive to see the EGO, still love my STIHL gas saws but battery is making its place in the market.

@garrettnelson1642 2 ай бұрын

Would love to see an in-depth video on the saws

@chainsawjenna 2 ай бұрын

I love my csx5000, really powerful. Only thing I hope they fix is if you are running it extensively the battery will overheat, and you can't run the saw for a good 10 - 15 mins.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Ooo, I haven’t found that yet. We will push ours a bit harder to see if it does the same! I’ve got an idea to pitch to you, I will message you 👍🏼

@jean-marcbriane7283 2 ай бұрын

Have you made a video on the Ego CSX5000?👍

@garethmcmahon9769 2 ай бұрын

Much better than I expected. Hung in there. Would deffo be an option around the house/yard but petrol all day out in the field. Yeah always interested in new tech so keep the content coming!

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Gareth. I have to agree 👍🏼

@aaronneher4860 2 ай бұрын

Two questions. How much can you get done with a battery and what’s the weight fully dressed out. You touched on balance but there’s a big difference between balance and weight. That thing looked like it weighed a fair piece

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

We will add this to the next video so see what the results are, thanks Arron 👍🏼

@derrasenmaher9730 2 ай бұрын

I like both battery and petrol saws. Climbing and light works/pruning battery all day, felling big trees and cut them up I take the petrol. So both are Great saws

@positiveaspect5730 2 ай бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. As a professional, I need both petrol and battery. If I'm doing single cuts (or maybe 2-3 (eg quickly breaking down a large limb after a lower)) I will use a battery saw. If I am making multiple cuts (or cutting a large log) I use petrol. For the single cuts etc. it's not good for petrol engines as you are always starting them cold and they aren't run long enough to warm them up. This is where battery saws excel.

@AuralioCabal-nl8gi 2 ай бұрын

You should see the Filipinos in the Province cutting Coconut trees for lumber, they work from 7 Am to late afternoon, they make 2×4and 2×6 to any length onsite, but the NOISE going on all day can be horrible.

@AuralioCabal-nl8gi 2 ай бұрын

New sub here ,Ego ROCKS!they are pushing the boundaries!

@txvet7738 2 ай бұрын

Is it me or is the bottom of the Ego saw made of some kind of metal? Y’all should do a comparison video with this Ego and the GreenWorks 60v 20” saw, that would be cool!

@Josia-my3nr 2 ай бұрын

Stihl MSA 300 vs ego chainsaw

@andyjay0 2 ай бұрын

Interesting test for you. Try that ego on some ppe. The chain speed will eat through your chaps like they aren't there. Most trousers are rated to 20m/s. My msa200 went through my oregon yukon trousers, but my ms362 didn't

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don’t think there is PPE suitable up to 30m/s yet. Same with the MSA300

@inga.hamsteren5552 2 ай бұрын

Love both of the saws😊❤

@timbert4672 2 ай бұрын

That’s twice I’ve seen that saw this week, I’m sure it was in one of Dirt Monkeys videos, I was looking at it thinking it must be a new professional saw, the way the bar cover uses bolts instead of the usual twist handle caught my eye right away. Personally I love it, the Stihl petrol saw obviously beats it in terms of speed but it’s so little I’d be tempted just to get rid of the noise and vibration. Not that Stihl stuff vibrates much anyway, but the decibel difference there is a fair bit. The first time someone showed me a Stihl electric chainsaw I was amazed by how quiet it was.

@tiagogomes2857 2 ай бұрын

I still think this tests should be done with equal chains

@tomfendall1942 2 ай бұрын

A lot of battery stuff is being marketed as direct equivalents to their petrol counterparts when they aren’t. Each power source has is benefits I have a mix of both now. I think it’s still a few years away yet before petrol tools are gone. Has anyone found how bad battery saws are at discharging the dust? I wonder is it’s because the narrower chains don’t eject as good?

@almclean4835 2 ай бұрын

They are defo getting better. Need to sort the looks and sound though.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

As one of my guys said the other day all. They need a synthesiser to make engine noises 👍🏼

@neilrice8714 2 ай бұрын

I have a Husqvarna 540i battery saw 14inch bar. It is fabulous. Probably my favourite saw for most uses. However when im having to make many big cuts the battery life goes down quickly. It is being used hard though! Hence out come one of my petrol saws to finish off the day. I think they both have a future. Not sure if i would choose ego as i dont know if there is a dealer near me and as much as anything i want that support when I buy my professional equipment. It seems husqvarna has it in battery saws (certainly top handle) at the moment as ergonomics, quality and ability are all too notch. It would be nice to see a husky being tested and not just Stihl. Cheers and keep doing the videos 😁

@chriswhite394 2 ай бұрын

more vids on battery chainsaws please

@ozieuteman 2 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to see the time from cold start to end of cut.

@pjo7281 2 ай бұрын

you can't compare them in such a short time, lets see how long they last. you need to do a year comparison, or more. i have stihl saws 15 years old still going strong

@DennisMathias 25 күн бұрын

But, how many cuts can you do with each one without charging or refilling. Toss up on power. Ego way ahead on noise. How's the weight compare?

@mkruge9076 2 ай бұрын

Long time ago i read that stihl are so good due to their reslly heavy flywieght which is how they cut so good. Makes total sense too

@shaun30-3-mg9zs 2 ай бұрын

Hi James., not bad at all for a battery chain saw, great video mate

@GuediRawstyle 2 ай бұрын

Hi James. Would be interesting to see the EGO saw with a Stihl bar an chain and compare them again each other. Love your videos 💪🏻 Greetings from germany 🇩🇪

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Yes being that the Stihl has a 3/8 bar and the Ego a .325 I agree. We will see what we can do 👍🏼

@happyfeet231259 24 күн бұрын

Ego is very good stuff (maybe a little bit overprised) , but in the long run for daily use(professional loggers) its better gaz chainnsaw, because if not in use , the electric start always even for 5 or 15,20 minut jobs and after 5 or 6 months , and the thing what make you chain saw performing exellent , is the correct scharpening... other than that , i would say make your choice , whether its for professional us , or occasional use have a good job

@adrianbrooks6303 2 ай бұрын

put 325 chain on the stihl

@jophoto934 12 күн бұрын

If I’m not mistaken the 400 Stihl is 68cc. Big difference from 60cc

@robertstack5455 Ай бұрын

i think the battery ego is probably good for homeowners. if it was my profession though would still go gas. Though i think in the future the batteries will get more and more efficient and probably take over more or less

@philipdove1705 23 күн бұрын

Both are great saws to have It seems. I'd like to see the new Milwaukee 20" m18 dual battery saw vs these they claim it has a 70 cc equivalent

@AngryManSki 2 ай бұрын

Are the chains the same? Any difference between them?

@paulmyhill4158 2 ай бұрын

But are the EGO,s a throw away item if they break out of warranty that could cost you a lot of money, we all know most petrol machines you can repair and replace virtually most parts and keep them running for a obscene amount of years on a tight budget. As you love to repair older machines and sell them on how do you see this battery revolution effecting what you do buying repairing and flipping older machines. i expect battery power will become a throw away world too.

@Ranger0752 2 ай бұрын

It's probably quite easy to repair using a multimeter. The question I'd like to know is if EGO will supply spare parts at a reasonable price

@paulmyhill4158 2 ай бұрын

@@Ranger0752 or for how many years after production.

@marccadec6978 2 ай бұрын

Battery replacement is probably two thirds price of the saw

@timbert4672 2 ай бұрын

@@CA34562True! I’d bet the unit and batteries have firmware which prevents such tampering. IIRC Ego batteries are made by Samsung, so they are top notch.

@garageblitztv3215 2 ай бұрын

@@Ranger0752some parts are very reasonable, but others are ridiculous … had a simple switch fail on an Ego line trimmer and it was 75% the price of an entire new unit - admittedly it came with a new harness. I simply replaced it with a new switch myself and solder. But it’s not very environmentally friendly that a switch could render the entire unit to the trash.

@richardsneddon2976 2 ай бұрын

Power is not the problem with battery equipment. How many batteries would I need for a days work as opposed to how many litres of fuel. And if I am out in the middle of nowhere who will carry them all . Try doing a test to see how much it will cut on one charge as opposed to a tank of fuel on just about any saw .

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Will do, thanks Richard 👍🏼

@modemfox 2 ай бұрын

I definitely want to see more about that ego saw. The sooner the better.

@dacasdas 2 ай бұрын

How does it compare to the msa 300?

@garengtutorial8923 23 күн бұрын

😮😮😮

@jean-marcbriane7283 2 ай бұрын

Can you make a comparison with the Stihl MSA300?👍

@rickdavid1795 16 күн бұрын

How about the weight difference?

@marccadec6978 2 ай бұрын

Top handle Stihl and husky are brilliant but for shear grunt you can't beat a 75cc or larger.

@devdeque7846 2 ай бұрын

Shoulda tried a STIHL chain on the EGO.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

The Stihl is 3/8 and ego .325 so would have to change the sprockets etc

@Gordon_L 2 ай бұрын

I'd be concerned about the longevity of the micro controller in the Ego , too fancy and prone to damage I think. Also the noise while different is still a similar level by the sounds , so there's no great advantage for urban environments from that standpoint , the manual doesn't give a decibel level though so I can't be sure on that . For the test , did your Stihl also have a brand new full chisel chain ?

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

It did but it was a 3/8 chain as opposed to the .325 on the EGO

@Gordon_L 2 ай бұрын

@@MachineryNation That's fair enough for me , thanks 🙂

@Orbben 2 ай бұрын

Saw seems powerful enough, the issue is the power density of batteries compared to petrol. You got to carry a bunch of batteries and chargers if you plan to run that thing for a few hours. Also even with limited run time the battery weighs more than a tank of gas usually.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

I don’t disagree, it’s not to perfect solution for all applications. But it’s certainly a huge step in the right direction 👍🏼

@richardsneddon2976 2 ай бұрын

Just looked into this a bit better . Bare machine £450 kit with 1 battery is 700 now are you ready for this . Spare battery 2 choices 2.5 is around 125 or the 5 which you will need for this saw is £250 . So if you are out in the Wilds no power around and a fair distance from your transportation for a days work you may need realistically around 10 batteries and then you have to carry them to site . This is not a great option for that is it . But for a homeowner with just a logburner cutting firewood at there property then yes I would say . But I have 4 echo chainsaws at the moment and I can do absolutely any maintenance to them full strip down and rebuild if I need to , these though absolutely no chance once they are done they go in the bin and what about battery life how long under pro use 3 month 6 month a year at most .

@benjaminleslie3155 2 ай бұрын

The only problem that ego has is overheating. I'd like to see what the fine print in the owners manual has to say about operation, like is there a duty cycle or what?

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

We dealing with EGO for 8 years and never had an overheat. Do you mean their older kit, the batteries? or the product during use? I presume you don’t mean this saw?

@benjaminleslie3155 2 ай бұрын

@@MachineryNation I do mean this saw. Put the full bar length in wood and see how many cuts you get.

@deenine916 Ай бұрын

My Dads a big fan @ 80 purely because of the lack of noise

@MarkStory-cc2dj 14 күн бұрын

I happen to have both saws. The EGO saw has incredible torque and blows through the wood at least as good as my MS400. But, the MS400 has a 28" bar, which I need on big wood here in Oregon. The kicker is fire season! We have two hour fire watch after I turn off my MS400c, and it is scary as s**t even running a gas saw in the woods. My EGO has no fire constraints, which is a bit odd. In early morning cutting I see sparks going through moss which has embedded dirt. I am very careful anyway. I have an 18" EGO saw too, which is lame and I do not like. My two year old Echo E saw is faster. I am getting a second CSX5000 for my small firewood business, given fire danger now is typically several months each year. I am 100% electric for the next months...

@maljohn1414 2 ай бұрын

Cost and run time.

@briannelson6259 2 ай бұрын

I love my gas-powered stihl chainsaws, but I bet the ego cuts faster and has more torque than the best battery-powered stihl chainsaw to date 👍

@timclarke8565 2 ай бұрын

Well Jimbo the ole' cocker... 1. Tony Montana would have been fucked if they naughty Colombians would have had an ego saw. 2. Having rocked a 36 volt husqvarna battery saw for a while now and absolutely abused the heck out of it I can certainly vote for battery powered devices. 3. A absolutely huge advantage over petrol that battery have is they pretty much always work. No issues with carburettors no issues with misfueling no issues in general with the drive train. 4. My 36-volt husky top handle has an is most definitely missing power. And even on an 18-in bar the thing struggles. However I think it may be time to upgrade.... hashtag questionmarks

@kevinstetson4981 2 ай бұрын

Loving mine so far but man the chain didn’t last long

@pdevonport7266 2 ай бұрын

What this doesn't show you after a few more cuts the electric chainsaw stops because of overheating. Also the Stihl is fitted with a 3/8 1.6 mm chain which is a lot more heavy duty where the electric sore has a 1.3mm .325. If you put a .325 on the STIHL you would see a lot faster times at the expense of durability of course. There is definitely a place for good quality electric chainsaws in urban situations for professional and homeowner but they are for the moment niche equipment and not a replacement. Unfortunately riding this wave is cheap electric chainsaws and other garden equipment on the market just contributing to future landfill.

@jozsefdebreceni9911 2 ай бұрын

Battery saws are great if you are doing smaller jobs otherwise petrol is still king ....also a decent battery saw with decent power and two batteries and charger are very very expensive

@reflex0001 2 ай бұрын

So close but no cigar , Stihl all the way

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

It’s certainly getting better though 👍🏼

@411Adidas Ай бұрын

The problem is not the saw, its the batteries. At $300+ a peice with only a life expectancy of two years, its a money pit. They are great suburban homeowner tools, but will never be financially worthwhile for large scale contractors. Unless we get a huge breakthrough in battery technology, but I highly doubt it.

@werdnawins Ай бұрын

Needs the same chains to be fair

@bizzarko Ай бұрын

You handled the sthill better on the up and you couldn't handle the up on ego losing time

@MachineryNation Ай бұрын

Well spotted mate, I didn’t notice this myself until I edited the video 👍🏼

@NBK3524 2 ай бұрын

I've a old Stihl 240av probably a 25yr old saw use it regularly and abuse it... Doesn't miss a beat I can guarantee you won't say the same for that ego with it's ridiculous looking battery

@jasperedwards3341 2 ай бұрын

but can a cordless work all day i bet it will overheat

@jameslennon5330 2 ай бұрын

Hi James, the problem with battery power is the battery doesn’t last long. So how long does the battery last? Always great videos

@123clis321 Ай бұрын

Yes. Ego is a toss when broken item. They have limited service. Stihl is typically serviced where it is sold.

@MachineryNation Ай бұрын

Ego is the same in the UK, only purchased through a specialist servicing dealer 👍🏼

@leecollett8522 2 ай бұрын

Love ego I’ve got a strimmer and I love it also got 3 sthil petrol chainsaw and will never go to a battery saw I’ve been looking at the sthil battery chain though 😂😂can’t beat a sthil chainsaw

@Bigcountry_littlelegs 2 ай бұрын

Yep about what I expected Would be good if you had a dB for both while cutting, as the battery saw was still quite loud

@mustang2433 2 ай бұрын

The ego has its place but the gas is still better

@hanf022 2 ай бұрын

I see absolutely no positive aspects about the EGO, the ego is way too expensive. You need the saw, at least 2-3batteries to work, better even 4 batteries and a charger. That is almost 2 Stihl saws. It's a gadget and you can cut a bit, but it's too expensive when you add all costs.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

It depends which way you look at it. One way - buying your fuel upfront. Another is having those batteries to power other tools from the same brand which spreads the cost further. Yes vibration, quieter. I’m not saying it’s better in all circumstances but there are defo benefits

@Lewis-ox6mu 2 ай бұрын

tec video peplase

@19stojkovic93 22 күн бұрын

.325 1.3 (EGO) vs 3/8 1.6mm (Stihl) Is this a joke ? everyone who working with chain chainsaws will understand Same size of chain than we can compare...

@saff3356 2 ай бұрын

at least you can learn how stihl is pronounced

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

I’m not German 💁🏼‍♂️

@sammytrees6970 2 ай бұрын

That’s blsht all the electric chainsaws, I work in forest for two decades and never seen Anything worse

@ChampionFirewoodManitoba 14 күн бұрын

Not everything works for all situations. Grandma doesn't need an 80cc saw for a few branches and small trees now and then. Electric has a place. We use both, and my Milwaukee has taken down and processed a lot of good size oak and birch trees

@hemlock1013 Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 hundreds of uses in a bucket on the ground cutting 120 footers up. I’ll take my 500i or 661c with a skip tooth and aggressive grind any day over these jokers of a saw. 201C 261c 500i and 661c are my go to saws for a part time tree business. I ain’t got time to mess around with a politically charged saw that won’t last. Child please. Hard pass.