This dude really said poggers in a video about baseball lmao

If there’s an exception to the three-batter rule for injuries, I’m expecting to see full-on soccer flops on the mound this season.

The fire sale music while the Dodgers hit had me rolling

Wade Miley just threw a no hitter 😂 not a fake pitcher after All

As a Brewers fan, this series shortened my life and deeply hurt me in a way nothing has since my dog died

This was my favorite move of all time. Absolutely brilliant, and even if it didn't win the Brewers the series, it may have lost the Dodgers the world series. The move put a bullseye on the shortcomings of the Dodgers sluggers...namely the splits that some of their best lefties couldn't hit lefties, and their best righties couldn't hit righties, they had to use a completely different lineup versus each. It became the biggest talking point of the World Series, and it basically let the Red Sox able to pick which lineup it wanted to face, and could make them keep guessing by not naming their starter very far in advance. Plus it had to be in the minds of the Dodgers that Sox might be able to pull some kind of similar trick and leave them scrambling to counter it. It was like Rocky II when we were all waiting for Rocky to switch to southpaw vs Apollo Creed. The Red Sox owe the Brewers for giving them the HUGE mental edge in that series.

"It's not about whether you win or lose. Sometimes it's about how many pages you add to the rulebook."

"Decoy Pitcher" is a better name...

Its always amazing to me that someone takes so much advantage in a rule that they change the rule. Like Willie Mays tagging at 3rd on a fly ball. He'd get up the left field line and hit the bag full speed when the catch was made. They made a rule that you had to be in contact with the bag. Who can name other rule changes that players/managers forced the league to change?

Lookin’ at the title like “wtf is a *fake* pitcher?”

2:50 I immediately went into fire sale zombie mode an started panning the skies for mystery boxes.

I'm glad you mentioned Ted Power, because that was exactly the same strategy. The problem for the Pirates is that Lou Piniella, the manager of the Reds, knew it was a stunt and didn't switch out his lineup because of it. Power pitched fine, but the Reds still won the game. As for Power, he was a reliever all season, but did start 85 games in his career, so it wasn't something he had never done before.

Every time something interesting happens in baseball, Manfred does what he can to ruin it.

This channel is like the perfect balance between the high production values and professionalism(ish) of SB Nation and the shitposting antics of UrinatingTree. I love it!

Nice job British baseball narrator dude. ;)

A while back Earl Weaver did the opposite, he started an off day starting pitcher at DH just to make sure he had the correct lefty/righty batter in case the opposing pitcher left the game before the DH came to bat

Really not a big fan of the 3 batter minimum. Changing strategy of the game to shorten the game slightly for those big beautiful TV contracts seems pretty awful. Also great video.

Check you history. This was a ploy sometimes done by Paul Richards, legendary Orioles and White Sox. He would start a pitcher, usually a righty, to get the opposing manager to load up his line up with lefties. Then bring in a left handed pitcher. I have seen this move done by other managers as well. I don't understand why this maneuver is being credited to Cousel?

Bill James had an essay about this in his book on managers. He concluded that it wasn't done more often because it was just a pain in the butt.

Unfortunately Manfred is ruining the game and tries to appeal to the casuals vs actual fans, and imposed the new rule.

"That game is more famous for a pebble. Yeah....Look it up." This is fascinating because it's such a throwaway line. That pebble (along with Snodrass's Muff in 1912, and Sam Rice's catch in 1925) would be talked about in the 40's and 50's the way we talk about the Buckner play or Kirk Gibson's HR today.

Strategy I want to see for a visiting team in an NL park: take your best bench hitter and announce him as the starting pitcher. Bat him 3rd. Pull him for the real starting pitcher after the top of the 1st. Dual benefit of having the other team not know the real SP and having the pitcher come up to bat fewer times.

“Pitching is changing” 2020: NEW RECORD! Astros get hit with the most pitches!

Craig Counsell when he makes another weird strategic decision: '*Now this is what I call a pro gamer move*'

So starting pitcher throws to the first batter, argues a called ball four. He is ejected from game new pitcher come in.

That EDP clip aged so poorly.

I was a handball (not the olympic sport played in the field but the inner city game played against a wall ) player growing up in Brooklyn. We used a pink, rubber ball called the Spaulding Hi-bounce ball. To make it bounce even higher, we would inject it with glue and pump it up with a bicycle pump. There was one player whose serve was so spectacular he shutout most of the other players. Many years after he left the game and he was over the hill, I persuaded him to tell me how he was able to serve the ball the way he did. To make a long story short, the way he explained it led me to conclude that his approach resulted in a serve with little or no spin after the ball left his hand. Therefore, when the ball made contact with the floor, it created much less resistance than what we (the receivers) were used to. So, it threw off our timing when the ball didn’t slow down the way we anticipated it to! In addition to this technique, he was former body builder who was very strong. Lastly, he knew how to use leverage in his serve which began with his lower extremities and increased his power as he worked his way up through his body. It reminds me of how it’s said Rocky Marciano was able to generate such great power-it started from his legs. Perhaps another way of thinking about it would be to consider how some advanced martial artists are able to train themselves to harness the the strength in their bodies to create chi (spelling?) and redirect it on one smaller point, like the hand or fist, for example.

I happened to land on your video through curiosity learning something new. And yes I stuck it to the end! Nice work!

I’d like to add another instance of when this sorta happened on accident. Babe Ruth one time walked a guy, punched an umpire. Get ejected. For his replacement to pitch a perfect game (that doesn’t count as one)

craig counsell looked like the middle school kid whose mom brought him mcdonalds at lunch when he came out to switch miley

Wow. You really surprised the heck out of me with that accent. You had me fooled the whole time. I'm glad you're back though. Puts a little spring feeling into the cold weather up here in Canada. Keep up the good work and the great content I'll be following all year.

"I hate my voice. It's absolutely disgusting . . ." Yep, stayed with you till the end.

Just watching this after wade threw the no hitter😂

2:08 G sups eh? I see you too are a man of culture

I stuck in through the end, and you’ve earned yourself a sub my man. Great content and keep up the good work!

"theres always a starting pitcher" Rays: Are you sure about that?

"And it worked." *Proceeds to explain how they lost the game and Woodruff gave up more runs than his team earned*

3:26 I was at that game. The greatest game I’ve ever been to in any sport ever

This strategy is/was specifically perfect for the dodgers of recent years because so many platoon spots. Like up to 5 players I think could be different in their lineup in recent years. Also earned a sub good video

Good job on the accents at the end! Yes, I listened to the whole video.

You lost me at poggers

*edit: oh wait lmao I commented this before I actually watched the video and he literally talks about this at 5:13. bruh moment Funny thing is... the 1924 Senators (now the Twins) actually tried pretty much the exact same thing as the Brewers in *Game 7 of the WS* by starting some unheralded righthander, then pulling him for a _lefty_ veteran starter 2 batters later so that the Giants' batting lineup wasn't prepared to face a lefty but was forced to anyways. I guess it worked bc they won that game, and interestingly that was also the only championship the franchise won in D.C. also Manfred's new rules suuuuuck lol

Glad to have you back❤️

have looked everywhere for this pebble thing you were talking about, but i can find nothing about it. links please?

When he said the series loss to the astros is looked at a little bit differently today I started dying

Hear me out, this is going to sound like the dumbest idea ever, but I imagine the future of pitching to go the way of Hockey? You rarely see pitchers pitch complete games anymore (let alone perfect games/no-hitters), in addition you even MORE rarely see 20 game winners anymore! There's another problem, the closer, closers blew more saves last season than ever before, there were more walk-off wins than ever before. I don't know if this is a talent problem, or the fact that it's PREDICTABLE! Teams are just sitting on relievers now, because relievers make more appearances than starters (34 starts max for most starting pitchers, some relievers appear more than 80 times a season!), regardless on the amount of innings pitched, this means batters see certain relievers more frequently! So they know how to beat em! Well, if starters can't go 5 innings anymore, and if closers are just getting shelled... Than how about a 3 man rotation, every game? It would make the 3 batter minimum rule irrelevant, AND put more importance on sabremetric stats to know who's truly a good pitcher or not! Think about a 12 man pitching crew, it used to be 5 starters, 6 relievers, 1 closer, now, they're just PITCHERS! You set up a NEW KIND OF ROTATION! 3 rotations of 9 pitchers, Day 1 will have 1 combo of pitchers, day 2 has another set, day 3 has the final set, then bam we're back to day 1 for the next series! These pitchers are then limited to just 3 innings per appearance, so you still have starters, but now you have 3 closers, and 3 middle pitchers. What about the 3 other pitchers? They're emergency relievers if a pitcher is having a bad game, so that you don't have to pull a guy from the next day's rotation! So what does this have to do with hockey? They do the same thing for their forward lines, each team has 4 lines, some teams play all 4, but some play 3 and the 4th line is the emergency line. For the teams that do the latter, their 4th line could be aging veterans while giving the youngsters playing time, or vice versa, they need a future team? Make the 4th line the rookie line! Baseball teams can do the same thing! What this does is it adds a new level of strategy, who do you start? Who finishes? Do you put your best pitchers in the 1st 3 innings? The Middle 3? Or close em out? There is 1 problem, how do you determine wins/losses? That's the part I haven't thought out yet, as to where to determine a pitcher won a game or not.

There are times though in baseball where a manager will have a new pitcher that recently joined the team get a start to get an idea if they would be a great starting pitcher, a relief pitcher, or a saving pitcher for the game… and sometimes the starting pitcher might go through the whole 9 inning game. (At least it’s like that for independent baseball)

My dad played OOTP all the time back in the day and he told me that he would do this in every playoff game and his team would be much better because of it. I tried it in OOTP and The Show as well and it worked. I've always wondered how it was never used.

I remember that, and when they announced he was the starter, I was like, "Who? Wade what?" Lol! It's good to know why they did that

You could just do that same thing and then have him get ejected on purpose. Either you'd have to replace him or they'd have to let him finish the inning before they ejected him. That'd be some next level shit lol.

It likely had more to do with the “lefty specialist” relievers in the 7th or 8th innings where it was becoming commonplace for a team to use 2 or 3 pitchers in an inning. But this case is very cool and unique.

Your style is very close to the SB Nation guys, good for you. It’s a good format and video essay style.

This fake pitcher threw a no no

love the channel!

The 3 batter rule is about the “lefty specialist.” Bringing in a reliever to face one guy late in a game which causes two back to back pitcher changes, and in some case pinch hit changes further extending the amount of time spent moving players around.

Actually there was an occasion when a non pitcher appeared in a game. I saw it on tv at the time. The cubs were playing the expos in a double header on july 4 1977. The cubs were getting plastered and so the manager herman franks put larry biitner an of/1b in the 8th. He gave up a 3 run hr to larry parrish and then he struck out the next batter to end the inning. He got through the ninth but gave up 2 more hr for 6 earned runs in 1 and 1/3 innings. Cubs lost i think 16 to 2. This was the 1st game. Biitners previous pitching experience wss pitching versus cubs affiliate triple aaa wichita aerows in an exhibition game in may 1977. I realize he didnt start game. However as i understand it i think going back to 1876 players might play more than one position. One hall famer john ward pitched and played short. He earned 34 war at short and 28 war as pitcher. That is why until the game involving wade miley the issue never came up.

All I could think of while lasting through 3 minutes of this video was... "Get on with it!"

Just threw a no hitter vs the Indians last night

Man the Yellow on those Pirates uni’s is obnoxious. I love it. Man that voice thing you said at the end hits close to home, it’s been the main issue I have with actually editing stuff from when I stream, because of some replacement teeth (slight hockey whoopsie) There are some “s” sounds where they ought not to be that I can hear, and it bugs me.

i loved that you use the cod zombies fire sale theme for the montage keep up the good work love the vids

This man really said "POGGERS" 😂

3:01 I can't believe this dude used Black Ops 1 (The best game ever) music in a video, that is easily the biggest curveball of the day.

Woodruff was one of the best hitters in our area of Mississippi growing up, dude just launched balls. Crazy Miss State didn’t allow him to swing the bat

Orioles manager Earl Weaver used a fake DH in the early days of the designated hitter rule. One day, the Orioles scored five runs and knocked out the Tigers' starter before the O's DH even came to bat. So Weaver started naming his next day's starting pitcher as the DH, then substituted him depending on the situation when he came to bat -- bases empty or runners on base, lefty vs. righty, etc. This went on for several weeks before MLB stepped in and said the DH had to bat at least once.

I don’t know why this is in my recommendations buttt I liked it besides the edp part 😂

Your “English” accent drifts into Australian a bit lol

Let's go Astros!!! Y'all heard me!! Also, I stuck it out to the end.🤟🏻😅🔥

I actually had no idea that things like that we're going on.considering how long the MLB has existed it surprises me that this hasn't been attempted more

hehehehe that EDP clip didnt age well

2:34 Second time. Only other pennant was in 1982

Dodgers hitting montage begins, *fire sale music begins playing*

Dude I think you have a great voice. I think everyone hates their voice but you have a genuinely good voice.

Wade Miley throws no hitter...

who's hear after he threw the no hitter

2:40 This segment is PERFECT!!!!

This is incredible!

wade miley no hitter

I was at this game and everyone around us was so confused. Thankfully this little gimmick didn't pan out.

good use of fire sale music 🙏🏼👾

Tony LaRussa did this a few years before and he managed to throw in a largely engineered rain delay along with it.

It’s amazing how one of the most insane strategic managerial decisions in MLB history led to one of the worst rule implementations in MLB history.

It took you 10 minutes to say something that could of taken 10 seconds.

Your voice isn't bad dude. Our own voice always sounds weird to ourselves because we don't hear it often. But others, who are around us everyday get used to our voice. I used to think that my voice was garbage when I would hear a recording of it, but it's pointless to be worried about that cuz it's never going to change. Keep doing you. BUT, I will not shy away from admitting that the British accent was awesome lmao

2020 now: Relief pitcher starts and pitchs 1 inning Manager: PUT IN THE ACE. THE OLD SWITCH-ARO

Bro Dan Jennings is lucky to be alive after that comebacker that gave him a fatal concussion

“Poggers” 🤣

Dude WTF You Have a PERFECT "Voice Over" Voice! I guess Everyone Hates their Voice when they Listen to it on a Recording!

I remember back in the 90s Wade Boggs pitched an inning for the Yankees.

Ok never use poggers again

dude.. Don't say "Poggers" out loud.

I think the three batter minimum might have more to do with managers like Tony LaRussa falling in love with micromanaging their bullpen. As much as I love my Cardinals, it was a chore at times watching them because of three pitching changes in one half inning. Often stretching the 7th or 8th into nearly an hour half frames.

Jolly good mate..

Like if we should impeach rob manfred

First

The 2001 Diamondbacks used a simple strategy to win the World Series. Two of the best all-time pitchers in the world as starters, Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling, and a left fielder suffering multiple injuries who could hit Mario Rivera's Mario Rivera's cutter. The game was an explosive win for my Diamondbacks and broke my heart for the Yankees. I've been a Diamondbacks fans since inception in 1998, and a lifelong Yankees fan, from age five, when I learned that Yankees' great pitcher Allie Reynolds and I were from the same tribe. Go Yankees. Go Diamondbacks.

I was at the Dan Jennings game. The Brewers kind of alluded to the fact that it would be a "staff day" ahead of time, but I have to say that I was pretty confused when they pulled him after one batter.

A a Brewers fan that series hurt. Games 2 and 4 were brutally close loses, game 5 we could've won if our offense didn't choke, and game 7 was a nightmare. Was still very fun to watch though!

I just laughed like my Dad IRL. Things are changing!

hahah gotta love the EDP cameo

Lol that ending had my head spinning