Ryzen is the only reason Intel didn’t continue their 4/8 core for 500+ dollar pattern

My first build used a 1200. I’ve since upgraded to a 5600X, and the 1200 has been handed down to my sister.

I'd love to see a modern video on the 5675. It's a overclocking beast and when I upgraded to a 5600x. The 5600x was exactly double the speed of my 4.8 ghz 5675

At the time of it's re-release the 1600AF was a thing and way better of a buy. But honestly even the 1600AF was still only good as an entryway to AM4, the single core speed is still decent for PS4 era games but nowadays with used 5600 pricing it's REALLY difficult to justify going for any lower end CPU if you have an AM4 mobo.

Meanwhile I'm still rocking a 4.8 Ghz 4790k from 2014 paired with a 5700xt. Still get 60+ fps at 1440p in most games maxed out. Of course it wasn't a budget CPU when I bought it, though they're cheap these Days. I usually sell parts to help pay for an upgrade but I'm never getting rid of this PC- I love this thing way too much! I love your videos, another nice one!

I was using the 1600 in my main PC... until recently! Popped in the 5700x and wow - my old rig shines again!

i remember building my first SFF PC around my ryzen 3 1200 with a 1060 6 gb in 2017. seems like forever ago cause i've built a handful of PCs since then.

Hardware Unboxed has been doing videos on Nvidia VS AMD driver overhead on the CPU. If you paired that processor with Radeon RX 6600 or maybe even a little higher it should play those games better. Maybe even the Radeon 5600 XT would yield better results I would say 6500 but that system wouldn't have PCIE 4.0 x4 so you'd be bandwidth limited

I feel the Ryzen 5 1600AE/AF is also deserving of a second look, as it somewhat adresses the 1200's poor multicore performance while not being that much more expensive in the used market

Thanks for continuing to make these videos! I love used hardware

1200 is a special CPU to me. Got me to 60fps pretty much locked in Dark Souls 3. Coming from 860k on FM2, Ryzen was godsent. Left in the dust now but I'll never forget.

AMD's integrated GPUs have basically allowed me to play even basic games these last 12 years. First the Llano A3850 (worked for 8 years), now my 3200G. With the current hellscape of high GPU prices I still think an AMD IGPU is the way to go.

I watched this video in full screen, and what you managed was to give me a freaking heart attack with that BSOD right there 😅

Still rocking a r5 1400 paired with a 1060 in one of my builds. I mostly use it for esports so it’s still perfectly serviceable. Would love to see it featured here.

My first totally custom PC made by me was built with an R3 1200. I easily clocked it at 3.7GHz with 1.14V and it was very very cool even with the stock cooler. At one point a got a 120mm AIO from a friend and the CPU didn't reach more than 45º even when OC'ed @3.9GHz It was a very cool processor, probably the coolest I have ever owned (during winter there where days that it was idling, browsing the web with some documents open, at 23º ) It helped me go by for a long time doing whatever I need even with some limitations and some patience. I eventually upgraded it to a R5 1600af and I still have this system lying around. The R3 1200 is a personal favourite

A look back at the R5 1600 would be great. I think that one sku made it clear to whole industry; gamers need 6 core’s and 12 threads.

I actually have a 1200 and I put it in a build paired with a GTX 960 4GB. That build's sole purpose was for me to play Genshin Impact while in bed (TV setup across the room) at 720p60 high settings. It ran amazing, all things considered TBH.

I had once bought a R3 1200 from a guy, who was selling his old pc parts untested with some bent pins in very low price (around 10 pounds). I fixed the bent pins and it works perfectly, using it to have some fun on overclocking and testing different things until I was moving home and put it aside. Maybe I would use it to build a living room entertainment PC based on it, pairing it with my old GTX 1050 ti.

I still have two R3-1200 chips. I use one of them mostly for updating AM4 motherboard BIOSs brought to me by customers. The other one is inside a "pizza box" style desktop case along with a Radeon 550 2GB, 8GB of RAM and a 128GB OEM WD SSD, running Linux quite cheerfully.

I have one of these things laying around, and its sole purpose is to update motherboards to support newer, better cpus

I picked an R3 1200 on release to see what Ryzen was about. Superb CPU for the time, and more importantly, what the upper tiers did to Intel and thus innovation in the space.

I used this as my first ryzen cpu in late 2017 i was on a very tight budget after selling my fx 4300 system and i have to say it served me well cause my gpu was a 1050 ti back then so it wasnt much of a bottleneck and i used it 2-3 year before upgrading to ryzen 5 6 core 12 thread

Waking up from a good nap and seeing a video from you is always a welcome inclusion

My first processor for my PC in 2018. Sold the PC in 2019. Had remorsed since then but now with a more powerful setup. Good nostalgic stuff for me though

It would be interesting to see how this Ryzen 1200 compares to an FX 8350 these days.

Tbh I never heard of the 1200AF 😱🤯! As a previous owner of the 1600AF I was very happy with its performance for 1080p gaming. I have since moved on to the 5800X3D for gaming but at least it was a simple bios update and cpu drop in upgrade 💪👍🥳. AM4 is a great platform for many!

Videos of "long in the tooth" hardware performance in current times is so much more satisfying to watch than current hardware videos.

My first AM4 CPU and was AMAZING for the time and price, It beats the old FX line at everything. The beauty of the history is that was changed for a Ryzen 5 5600 on the same motherboard and ram; It was a complete revenant . Truly the AM4 socket should be top of any list about best computer platforms of all times.

This is actuallya good ultra budget CPU on the second hand market. You can find it with cooler included for less than 30 euros and the socket is far from a dead socket like all the other options are. The Ryzen 5 1600 ocasionally is cheaper and a better deal over all, but not as often

I'm still using Ryzen 5 1600 + 1060 6 GB combo 😃 Will be good to see Ryzen 5 1400 and 1600 reviews too.

A couple years ago a batch of FX-9590's resurfaced in one store for about 30 dollars each

I'd like to see how the Ryzen 5 1400 performs these days, I had one of those back in the day and it was a pretty decent chip, maybe the hyperthreading would help it perform quite a lot better in cpu intensive titles?

this was my first multi core chip. great memories. was a huge boost from a 2 core pentium chip i had lol. i had this thing paired with a 1050ti. though now i own a intel chip i intend to go back to ryzen as it just suits my needs more. thanks for the great video. cheers!

There's a major difference in performance between the DX11 and DX12 versions of The Witcher 3 if you weren't aware. Great video!

Got myself 1200 + Asrock A320M for just 50 usd. I think that's an absolute win for me.

While I do like that youre switching up your editing a bit, I do have to say I prefer the old format for the settings, avg and 1/0.1% fps being at the top of the screen.

My first build had an FX6300... Man we've come a long way

The boost between 1000-2000 Ryzen and 5000 is pretty nuts. I had a 1700x (release day adopter) and a 2700x. Even a mid range GPU like my Vega 64 got a boost from my 5800x then 5800x3d.

"Put it this way ... I've taken my dog out for a walk." 🤣🤣🤣

When my haswell motherboard died back in 2019 I got one for £50, it only OC'd to 3.7 GHz but served me well until zen 2 launched and I got a 3700X

3:40 Yes, the hard limit of Zen 1 was about 3950MHz. Going to 4GHz you may as well have been looking for an unicorn.

I am still happy with my Ryzen 1500X (4C 8T). It's now resting because of a 5600G, but planning to build a pc around it. It's worth more not selling it, instead put it in use again. Happy times for an older chip. :) For example, with a GT1030 OC, it was capable to have a nice gameplay, above 30FPS in The Division2 solo play, in 1360*768 (Or was it 1600*900, uhm, not sure now.)! Or Gta5 in 1080p, high settings. 16GB of RAM of course. But, for another example, the GT1030 reached around 45 FPS in Division2 on a A8-6600 CPU, my GT680 almost 10 FPS more, rounded about 55 FPS at 1360*768 resolution, 8GB RAM ddr3 1600.

Are we just going to ignore the sick 180 reverse squeeze-by @ 10:02 like it never happened???

This was my main rig CPU back in 2017, after my previous power supply nearly completely destroyed my previous build. That dead power supply killed all my old components except for the ram.

Interesting... These early Ryzen's were what made Intel move away from 2C4T i3's and 4C4T i5's. Would love to see a comparison between this, the 1400/1400AF and the 1600/1600AF.

I'm still on a Ryzen 5 1400x with a 1060 I can basically play any game still on it, obviously turning down the settings a bit. Would be pretty cool to see you cover this combo!

still got my 1200 in my possession, probably going to use it in a HTPC at some point

Oh dear. I was testing an i5-4570 today and Spider-Man didn't run well, it did that thing where it stops for a moment to load assets before carrying on, but at least it starts the game!

My first proper cpu, thanks for covering it

I think this might just be a tad slower than the Pentium G7400 I use daily. Interesting. Thanks for making the video!

Been watching u since u had 50k subs now you've 500k my man!🔥

love the vid really appreciate your content because personally speaking PC gaming as a hobby been quite the interesting ride for me. First real introduction I had with the PC master race was with a laptop that has an igpu that just about allowed me to play assassin's creed 3 on low settings 900p before that I only played flash games. then I was able to obtain an acer laptop with a 7th gen i5 and gtx1050. It is still around but now mostly just used as a portable solution. Didn't feel the need to upgrade anytime soon but then wanted better ergonomics so went and built a desktop with a ryzen 5600g. Man was 2020 wild because I wasn't able to get a GPU for the price I want with the performance I expect. Then saw a 6600XT for sale which was miracle ngl. Fast forward to the Crypto crash and I got me a 3070 and man does ray tracing look good when it works. Right now don't see the need to upgrade and is waiting for the hopefully better priced RTX 50XX GPU (that might ultimately not fit my current case =(. Like for real they need to make more efficient cards!).

That stupid 4 core 4 thread. I still remember not getting enough fps in. The division 2. Ghost recon Wildlands. And watch dogs 2. You'll feel the pain of not having extra hyper thread.

"The only bad thing about this gameplay is the player." Seems to be pretty good to me. I would say that whole 'practice makes perfect' bit, but MW2 is so controversial right now that it might not be worth it. Keep it up!

First !!! - Only joking lol. This was my first CPU in the Ryzen range of chips and I loved it, wish I still had it cos it was the AF model. Think the success of Zen 1 put AMD back on the map. Thanks for sharing 🙂

I used a Ryzen 3 1300x for several years with a R9 270x and it played everything reasonably well back in the day.

First comment I guess :D, Hello steve! I used to be dreamy about getting this cpu but actually never got amd products. I ended up having i5-11400H in my laptop last year but I remember this cpu being beefy back in the day

1st gen Ryzen is for the most part responsible for the major cpu renaissance we experienced, also can't entirely be sure GPUs would've gotten so much better so fast if they didn't have cpus that can keep up. Really insane how for we've come since 2017

this is a cool video. I have an og R3 1200 (14nm Summit Ridge) and i managed to hit 4.3ghz on it with 1.537 core voltage.

This was my first Ryzen chip. I paired it with an RX 580 and 8gb of RAM, and it served me well! I went straight from this CPU to a Ryzen 9 3900x so I had the upgrade of a lifetime lol

When your game looks like a flip book! LOL! I remember finally getting the first CoD Black Ops running on my Pentium4 with HT! 1 core, 2 threads! Like you mentioned, it was like a power point presentation! LOL! Overclocking it helped, but not much! Have a great day, Sir! o7

I am writing from a 1200 machine at this very moment; and all I can tell you is: great for coding, office and light video editing, but I am not even thinking about using it for serious gaming! Thank God for my PS4 PRO :p

3:45 He used to have my current cpu back in his days 💔

Always looking forward to your next video :))... Are you planing on doing any with the steam deck you got? Keep up the great work ;)

Man, don't know do you know, but you can attach RX GPUs for low end CPUs for much better perfirmance due to Driver Overhead Issue with Nvidia Graphic Cards. AMD has hardware scheduler which makes a huge difference, It is well known already, Hardware Unboxed did movies about it Regards from Poland!

1:00 Still remembered the good old days when Ryzen 1600AF launched at merely $75... Soon after that everything became extremely expensive due to the semiconductor shortage.

bruh u scared me with that blue screen of death i thought my laptop crashed

:0 my 3200 was the same way , only got to 3.95ghz at the highest . 4ghz was always just out reach and have seen up 4.2 ghz on benchy sites. cache on the smaller chips were around 4 mb , always tying the chips legs . 20 -32mb is about the sweet spot for cache it seems right now with some scaling on the 3dx parts(96 mb cache i believe) .

These 1st, 2nd and even Ryzen 3000-series videos are very interesting because you can buy them pretty cheap these days. So more of these, please :P

The 1200 AE was actually my first AMD-cpu build - prior to that I only had intel-cpus (first one being a 386-system, from way back when…). I had the 1200AE paired with a B450 Board, RX570 GFX and 16 GB 2400 DDR4 ram. A dirt cheap build that worked well enough for about 3-4 years. Still using the ram and mobo, but upgraded the cpu to a R5 5500 and RX 6600 last year. Again dirt cheap parts but I’m not complaining about the performance.

Now, if you were able to snag one of those 1200s which have all 8 active cores, that would be pretty epic

i loved my 1200 but after a while felt it a bit lacking so i upgraded to one of its big brothers the 4100 lol

I still have a 1200 in box, still has potential for a budget build and retro station after i pulled from my 2018 workstation and a r3 3300x has been in use for a few years now and plan on moving up to 5th gen and turn the other chips into budget systems

For the first time I didn't skip an ad

I played Spider Man Remastered on AF variant of this CPU and it ran great, with 60 fps on medium. I had it overclocked to 4.2 GHz too.

i have r3 1200af on my 2nd rig, i play with a 1060 and it's work very well, back 2021 when i bought it, i got it with a320m for ''only'' 120€, for a budget pc during the pandemic it was perfet, and still today run my game pretty well, so i'm happy to have it, i dont really need better

Zen chips stutter no matter how many cores they have, I had an 8 core for 3 years and that caused stutter and throttled my 2060S card. I think it's the latency that causes the issues. I replaced with the cheapo R5 5500 and saw immediate improvements with less stutter and better frametiming.

I saw the R3 1200 and was like “oof that’s going to be rough.”

The Ryzen 1200 AF and 2300X (and, in between, the 3500 and 3500X) was enough to tell many of us that Physical Cores that lack any form of Logical Cores is something that the industry would have to move away from, this is part of why the 9600K and 9700K became considerably more frowned upon when the 8700K and 9900K got some major price drops (especially once we got to Workstation performance) and why we haven't seen too many Non~Multithreaded options from Intel or AMD since 20I9; at this point, the original Ryzen 1200 and its Zen+ successors can be comfortably ignored because of what we are seeing today, more applications will lack support for the early generations of Zen and it will only show itself more as we go further through this decade that anybody on Socket AM4 would be best considered to upgrade, the 5700X would be a good start and eventually the Ryzen 09s will see considerable drops on the Second Hand market by decade's end that those will be the best options later on.

Can confirm, on games like BF1 my overclocked 1200 to 3.8 could not even keep up with a gtx 1060 3gb. At least it gave me an significant performace increase compared to an i7 6700HQ

I only upgraded from the Ryzen 3 1200 last year still a decent cheap build for a newbie with little budget

Its a good cpu for a NAS / file server. Just get a cheap mobo and some ram wack in some hard drives and you are sorted. :)

I picked up a 1200 in summer of 2020 for $40 usd used. It was a decent pair on my Aorus b450 and gtx 1050 ti. I mostly played gta and other lighter games. It was relatively smooth, quiet, effortless but the card and the cpu were neck to neck while gaming, so talking in discord while gaming proved to give stutters. I knew this CPU wasn’t going to be future proof but I think I got a good deal on it and it was mainly just to get my custom built pc to turn on. My main was and still is a hp 8300 sff with the i7 3770 and gtx 1650 so I wasn’t too concerned about having power. I upgraded to a 5800x for $249 on sale. The stock 1200 cpu cooler was not enough and I have too much processing power and too little graphical power!

4C/4T CPU's are for now e-sport only, or older games (pre-2020 titles). The best of them... the i5-7600K @5 GHz however is a lot better and can still hang on, but some stutters are still going to happen. No reason to pair a R3 1200 with anything stronger than a GTX 1060 3G / 1650 (or RX 470/480/570) for 1080P. Actually these stutters might feel worse if using a more powerfull GPU, because it has higher frames @Average, and then the stutter (CPU hickup) happens, framedrop % is higher on a more powerfull GPU. Also the CPU is pushed harder @average, leaving less headroom to deal with these short load spikes where it stutters. If a CPU is using all of it's processing to feed the GPU for frames, it of course has less resources to deal with other processing that is needed. So In my tech view, severe bottleneck on a GPU due to the CPU, is worse than the opposite, as well as worse than a little bottleneck. If you want tp pair a R3 1200 with something as a RTX 3050 / 2060, please go up to 1440P and/or Ray Tracing ON if possible(use DLSS if RT can't give 30+ FPS). Running around 40 FPS (GPU limited @average), should minimize these hard CPU stutters. 40+ FPS is actually *not bad, even on FPS titles (*for casual gaming).

My wife is using her ryzen 1700x to play hogwarts legacy on a 5700xt gpu, i dont know how well the 4 core 8 thread chip would hold up, but i can tell you the 8 core 16 thread zen 1 cpu's are holding up pretty well, I daily drive a 1800x, though my gaming machine is a 5800x3d/w 6800xt.. the zen1 chips make for fine 1080p 60fps gaming chips. just, not much above that.

ABout the R51400... If one going for a low budget 4 core gaming rig, the Intel Haswell 47xx 4C/8T + MB can be found cheap on the used market. This old platform still hang on pretty well, especially with DDR3-2000+ memory. But I would say a R5 1400 with DDR4,-3000+ is usable also, and will give a more simple update path (just upgrade CPU), albeit slighly lower performance now vs the i7 Haswell. Higher clockspeed @around the same IPC, gives Haswell the egde. Another thing is the lower memory/cache latency on Haswell. Possible to OC the Ryzen 5 1400 though, but the i7-4790K is still better, sometimes as much as 20+% if OC'ed to 4.5 GHz.

Plz do a video about 8GB RAM in 2023 (including Hogwarts Legacy and Spiderman Remastered)

you hi really nice vid i have a i3 8350k clocked to 4.5 ghz with a gtx 1060 6gb and 16gb ram still good in many games in 1080p with medium settings

Ngl, a cpu like this would do great for my needs.

This CPU was great when it first came out, but unfortunately it was right at the transition period when games started to become increasingly multi-threaded. Nowadays 4/8 is the bare minimum and even that will still give problems in some newer games if you're aiming for 60 FPS. Years ago, most people thought that you were wasting money going above an i5 (4/4) for gaming and at the time they were right because few games took advantage of more than four threads. While they're not that great nowadays i7s from that period have held up a lot better.

the bluescreen part is so funny lol

I just recently upgraded my FX6300 to Ryzen 5 5600 and never my life gotten that fast before

The claims of stability when overclocking CPU's and memory....GROSSLY OVERSTATED in most youtube videos. I give you props mr random, you keep it stable, and safe, realistic even. Might need to "download more cores" to play cp 2077. TBH the second that ryzen 5 1600 came out....it became a 6 core 12 thread world. Don't get left behind.

The 1st gen Zen processors were pretty hit and miss for games. The big advantage was the 8 cores for productivity workloads pricing vs Intel. They fixed ALOT by Zen 2. It would be interesting to compare this to 3100, 3300, 3200g & 3400g. The real meaningful content will be comparisons.

can you review the i5 4440 which released back in 2013, basically have the same cores and threads with same speed. I've been using this CPU since that year until now and most of the games are playable with my bottleneck RX 580

Ryzen 3 was close to the i3 for a reason, I never experienced this with the i5 6600k OC to 4.8ghz...Cyberpunk runned ok at 1080p and could push over 60fps

You should try adding valorant in your tests, at least for the older/budget builds

was looking hard here to get my hands on either one of those or a 1600 for a home nas, no luck

man the overclocking hit hard. I had a ryzen 5 1600 and I couldn't get 4 GHz. I think the best I got was 3.92 GHz.

Steve,Can you test T5500 xeon 5620 dual processors with 16gb ram with gtx 1060 or a Rx 570 if possible...i want to see how much i would be bottlenecked if i upgraded from gtx 1050 (already bottlenecked but would love to see how much it be more) Thanks :D