The Canon R7 - Does Canon Even Care?

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@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

The 85mm cinema lens I use on the R7- geni.us/uk5To

@iaokie Жыл бұрын

😮Thanks for this heads up I was just about to order the R7 along with a crap load of accessories and a high end lens Guess I’ll start my search over and forget about the unsupported Cannons

@tampatrainguy8486 6 ай бұрын

This issue has been fixed with the latest firmware 1.4.0. I tested it with the Laowa 15mm f2.0 lens and Laowa 33mm f0.95 lens, both of which are fully manual lenses. The camera works great now, I was getting tired of switching the IBIS off and on again through the quick menu every time I turned the camera on with a manual lens on it.

@nigelngai3288 6 ай бұрын

That’s good to hear, I was looking for an update on this issue with the latest firmware update. Hopefully someone makes a video on the firmware 1.4.0 for the R7.

@thrallingFRglory Жыл бұрын

One workaround for long time Canon EF users is to switch to Panasonic Lumix. The sigma EF to L Mount adapter works great with all EF glass. Plus, with the S5II now having PDAF, you can make use of all that excellent glass with great autofocus!

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

I have been having a very serious look at the S5 II X.

@francissosing Жыл бұрын

You guys won’t regret it. I’ve been in the Sony, Panasonic, and Fuji ecosystem and the firmware support from the Pana and Fuji definitely let’s me know they value their customer base and loyal customers.

@gerhardbotha7336 11 ай бұрын

Why? R7 with EF glass works perfectly. I only have EF glass. R7 AF way better than any other wannabe

@bublt4me 11 ай бұрын

I wished they made the same adapter for MFT so that I can use FF lenses for more reach.

@qibcentricsplayground2043 8 ай бұрын

@@francissosingseconded. I got a firmware update for my fujifilm X-Pro1 even in like 2020. A camera that came out in like 2012

@MicaelWidell Жыл бұрын

Canon's decision to close down the RF system to their own lenses, and to actively prohibit other companies from backwards engineering electronic RF lenses (lawsuite against Samyang), is so very sad. And neglecting bugs like this one goes in line with that strategy: actively discourage the use of any third party lenses or EF lenses - steer people towards the mega expensive Canon RF lenses. I wanted to switch from Sony to Canon because of superior ergonomics and user experience, but this is the one thing that made me double down on Sony instead - at least they are enabling a great selection of cheap third party lenses, and they listen to their users!

@rrivera9132 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Thank you. I think it’s obvious with Canon’s announcement a few months ago that they were prohibiting third party manufacturers from producing lenses for the R series cameras, that Canon does not value consumers. Several months ago I purchased an IRIX 45mm lens to use on the R7 and it would not display any aperture setting, whether in AV, TV or Manual. I spoke to B&H and called Canon Service center on Long Island, and they were both in the dark as to why it was happening. I finally contacted IRIX and after a week they told me that Canon had changed their firmware without notifying Irix. That’s why the lens would not work. Irix said that they would be releasing a compatible version of the lens, but then Canon made their announcement regard third party manufacturers, so I don’t know if the issue was resolved. Canon has a history of shortchanging consumers. I like the R7 but don’t trust Canon to do the right thing by consumers. Their attitude is reprehensible.

@Universal_Craftsman 4 ай бұрын

Canon really deserves the title of beeing the Apple of camera manufacturers, it won't take long until they tell us we are just holding the camera wrong if something doesn't work.

@zurcfamily Жыл бұрын

I purchased an R7 having the same issues. I'm going Sony before the end of the year. Thank you. I knew something was wrong. WASTE OF MONEY 💰 SHAME ON CANON...☹️

@nickhubbard3671 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I'm disappointed in Canon's lack of support. I am re-thinking my future purchase of the R7.

@ioanandrei8814 Жыл бұрын

cameras with RF mount have no sens)

@thedarksidemic Жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed with the R6 that ibis performs less well with manual lenses, it’s classic Canon cripple hammer. More noticeable with longer lenses. I have the EF 135 F2 non stabilised lens and it’s great with the R6 stabe. However my adapted contax zeiss 135mm 2.8 is noticeably less good even when you manually enter the focal length. My old Sony a7sii stabe is miles better with any manual lens you throw at it and that’s an 8 year old camera! I don’t believe any BS about incompatibility with manual lenses. A 135mm is a 135mm at the end of the day.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

I know! It’s the lenses fault? Come on.

@matthewsinger Жыл бұрын

I wonder if some of the issue is focal distance? With an EF or RF lens, the lens is also sending the focus information to the camera. Subjects closer to the camera would require more stabilization than subjects further away to infinity.

@thedarksidemic Жыл бұрын

@@matthewsinger yeah that might be the issue but I still go back to how ibis works on my A7sii, it’s miles better with manual lenses. It’s not even close and that’s one of the early ibis cameras. I’d wager Canon are ‘at it’ - they’ll do everything to keep you buying their lenses.

@ariririririririririri Жыл бұрын

I've missed this video originally since I don't own R7, but I do have similiar issues on R6, I wonder if your solution would work there too. It's dissapointing that Canon just doesn't seem to listen to any feedback lately, first bannning 3rd party AF lenses, and now not even caring about their own old EF lenses. At times I regret not picking up A7R IV over the R6.

@ReachFilms Жыл бұрын

Interesting, yeah I’ve had Ibis issues with the R7 as well, between that and no small high quality crop sensor RF lenses available the R7 has been the least used camera in my collection as of late. I’m going to film some anamorphic on it but after that tempted to sell it

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

I have been in the same position, and it’s a shame, as every time I handle the camera it just feels great. I basically use the A7IV and FX30 for everything now. I was direhard Canon, and their 3rd party lens decion has really forced me into Sony.

@markjob6354 Жыл бұрын

*If I was an owner of a Canon R7, and Canon Customer Support told me what you are claiming you were told, then I might be tempted to simply sell off my camera and walk away from the brand altogether just on principal ?*

@jiahaoshi8434 7 ай бұрын

This is indeed a choice. But for me, after I own 5+ Canon rf lenses and manual lenses, changing the system is a costly thing.

@photoray002 Жыл бұрын

Is this only affecting the R7 or could it be an issue with all the other Canon R cameras?

@nigelngai3288 6 ай бұрын

@markwiemels Have you tried the latest firmware update? Firmware 1.4.0? Could you do a review to see if the problem is fixed? Thanks!

@user-mj5sj5xt6u 3 ай бұрын

Will you please give us more information about the problems you find with cannon EF lanes using the convert you recommended for RF in stills photography. And is it a workaround it? Thank you

@itiswhatitis8179 Жыл бұрын

I think Canon is having some sort of internal conflict that is preventing them from making a cohesive business plan going forward. Its too bad, they make great stuff when they get it all together. Sony sometimes makes not so good stuff but then they listen to customers, fix it, and then have great stuff too. I like that. It shows good business sense and long term commitment. I can't decipher Canon's plan. Today, we are pushing $10,000.00 for a top camera and one good lense. I want to understand the company I buy from.

@MyChevySonic 11 ай бұрын

I've got an old Pentax k-x and whenever you turn it on with a manual lens attached, it asks for the focal length.

@CastoLocks Жыл бұрын

Do you have any videos on green screens?

@Blackbear1207 Жыл бұрын

I was also excited about the Canon R7 initially. I even purchased a Canon Speedbooster 0.71x to use with some EF lenses, which potentially have better image quality on the R7. However, I noticed that when using the Speedbooster, there are abnormal IBIS (In-Body Image Stabilization) issues with zoom lenses. For example, when I mounted the EF 24-70mm f2.8 lens, whenever the focal length displayed is below 24mm, the IBIS becomes completely ineffective. You can refer to my video at the timestamp 19:42 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLmAo8Z_yq-1lGQ.html I also tried the EF 16-35mm lens, and similarly, the IBIS fails completely when the focal length goes below 16mm. However,when using prime lenses like the 50mm or 35mm, I don't experience this issue at all. This problem is truly frustrating. Currently, there are very few RF-S lenses available, and the third-party options for EF-S lenses (such as Sigma) are quite outdated. Essentially, there are hardly any suitable lens choices for the R7, which is disheartening.

@ajc1482 10 ай бұрын

You can literally use pretty much all the EF lenses with a standard mount adapter, the Sigma EF mount glass works really well to...this is pretty much a new system still so native lenses will take time.

@dy0 10 ай бұрын

I got R7 body and first lens was Helios 77M-4 (50mm 1.8), IBIS was set to 50mm by default (first time I turned on the camera without any electronics). I use EF AF confirmation chip with EF-RF adapter and that tells camera it's 50mm and 1.4. If there was a way to program these chips, would at least resolve many issues with M42 lenses and alike, of course fix from Canon would be the best. Edit: Just found out there are programmable EF chips, I ordered some and will set them to 28mm, 35mm, 135mm as 50mm seems to be "default".

@markwiemels 10 ай бұрын

Wow! Thats a great find! I will look into this, thanks.

@craigcarlson4022 Жыл бұрын

Mark, Interesting (really, discouraging) that Canon hasn't been willing to address that. I wonder if it's their way, somewhat passively, to discourage users from using third party lenses. I've owned an R7 now for about two months. I bought it as a replacement for my 77D for stills photography. The issue that I experience and which I think lots of enthusiast users will experience, is the blurring of images caused by shutter shock when either the mechanical or first-curtain shutters are used. So, we're left having to use electronic shutter and deal with the reduced dynamic range and image warping that comes with that. Major bummer. I also had to send the camera back when it froze up. Canon reported they had to replace the motherboard. That doesn't actually inspire confidence in the company.

@matthewsinger Жыл бұрын

Shutter shock shouldn't be an issue with Electronic first curtain. The shock is from the mechanical shutter closing just before opening up as the image recording begins.

@craigcarlson4022 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewsinger Matt, Thanks, i’ll try it again. But when i did comparison test shots of varying subjects, trying each of the three shutters, the first curtain shutter results looked more like those of the mechanical shutter. Any insights on what’s going on there? I was trying shutter speeds between 1/60th to 1/320th of a second.

@michaelgomez4314 Жыл бұрын

You should have heard by now the phrase "Canon cripple hammer"

@matthewsinger 10 ай бұрын

In full mechanical shutter, the shutter has to first close and then open. This was less of an issue in DSLRs because the shutter started out in a closed state, though the movement of the mirror and the opening of the first curtain could cause vibration. I'm not sure what the advantage of a mechanical shutter is with mirrorless cameras. Electronic first curtain is optimal, and full electronic is fine when rolling shutter isn't an issue or when silent shooting is necessary.

@juliensimracer 28 күн бұрын

I'm looking for a focus handle controller using usb and lens focus motor, like ronin rs2 does but on a separate handle for my shoulder config. It looks not possible :(

@WorksIRL Жыл бұрын

Is there a setting that “reads” or tells the camera to “communicate” with the lens upon each power-up? If so, maybe disable that setting and thereby not refresh or overwrite the manual setting defined before turning it off? I don’t own a Canon but aspire to upgrade to a better camera like the R7 and hope this issue is resolved.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

No, no options, Canon keeps the user interface pretty simple, and when it works, that’s great.

@Clydbee 4 ай бұрын

got a sigma 18-35 and updated the lens to the latest firmware with a sigma dock, ibis works well when adapted with an r7 updated to latest firmware for photo and video. i prefer using electronic shutter to prevent mechanical jitters

@geofff6671 Жыл бұрын

Canon has always crippled their cameras in some way to make you want to upgrade. I suspect this is just a way to hobble third party lenses.

@joeshmo5991 4 ай бұрын

I just got an R7 as a gift and looking for a lens like this after watching your review of it. Is this issue only for this lens?, or does the ibis “shut off” for any lens change after the camera is turned off?

@markwiemels 4 ай бұрын

If you get a native RF lens, by canon, you won’t have any problems.

@iaokie Жыл бұрын

So now as a “ almost R7 customer” and a newbie to all this I’ve been doing my research and was just literally getting ready to purchase so what is out there that compares to the R7 abilities and price range I do like the idea of 3rd party lenses as an affordable option for a novice like me

@latenightmark Жыл бұрын

Sony Alpha cameras like A7R3 and A7R4 and with a Sigma or Metabones adapter you can use vintage EF and EF-S mount lenses, plus Third party and Sony glass. Talk about flexibility. But on the downside or upside depending how you look at it, Sony may start selling feature firmware upgrades so they can nickle and dime you to add features, sort of like app upgrades for your smartphone.😮

@iaokie Жыл бұрын

Thanks I'll take a closer look at those

@Universal_Craftsman 4 ай бұрын

@@latenightmarkThis is insane.

@andybarnard4575 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. It has been ever thus with camera systems, and is probably deliberate. Its called the cripple hammer. Support have told you to buy an RF lens. The best thing you can do is get the info out there so that others are not suckered in.

@tylerdoestech Жыл бұрын

I know you told Canon you were using a 3rd party lens, but what would their excuse be if you were using one of Canon's EF Cine lenses? Canon does not even have RF Cine lenses! I was fed up with Canon when I owned a 5D Mark IV and their *only* solution for me to pay to upgrade to have C-Log was to send my camera away for up to 2 weeks to have *a firmware upgrade* performed at one of their 2 remaining service centers in the US. Then, as a 1DX Mark II owner, there was no option even available to add C-Log to that camera! If I get into the mirrorless space, I will be looking at Nikon, Panasonic, and Sony before I ever touch Canon there.

@raimissilk2327 Жыл бұрын

There were 2 firmware updates recently. I don't know if it fixed the problem. In any event the IBIS works with my EFS lenses.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

1.3.0 didn’t fix it, 1.3.1 is suppose to fix touch sensitivity only, but I have not tested it for a potential ibis fix.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

I just tested 1.3.1 still not working.

@patricasmyth4359 5 ай бұрын

Why doesCanon sell EF and EF-S to RF adaptors if they don’t support the conversion?

@bobcunningham5288 Жыл бұрын

Does the IBIS show any difference when shooting stills, or is it somehow only linked to video?

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

I need to test this, but I did get the impression that it worked for stills, but not video. I need to test that more specifically with screen recording to be sure.

@Asgeir_W Жыл бұрын

Hmm, i had kind of made my decision to buy the R7, as I'm getting back into photo again, but I'm not so sure now as part of my plan was to buy some secondhand L lens, and use with the adapter, but this kind of gave me second thoughts. I might just buy the secondhand 1dx II instead that I also considered.

@tayloriginals999 11 ай бұрын

Wow. Is that issue with the EF lenses only with the R7? I am looking to get one but due to budget constraints, I was going to get an adapter and use my EF and EF-S glass. If it's just the R7, then perhaps I will save up for the R6, which is what I really want anyway.

@markwiemels 11 ай бұрын

Since I don’t have any of the higher end cameras, I can’t really confirm, but I have seen some people talking about similar issues with the higher end cameras.

@jiahaoshi8434 7 ай бұрын

From what I have observed, it seems that the older camera like r6 mki does not have this problem, and even flagship camer like the r3 seems to have same problem reported. But the way to confirm is still to pick up a camera in a physical store and try it with a manual lens.

@latenightmark Жыл бұрын

So sorry you are dealing with this issue and Canon's poor canned curt response. It should be obvious, Canon does not give a hoot about your old EF and EF-S lenses and sure the heck not about third party lenses. Canon wants you to buy new Canon lenses. The bug may or may not be deliberate. I am seriously thinking After shooting Canon Camera for four decades and tens of thousands of dollars in buying Canon bodies and lenses to drop my loyalty and switch to Sony for my next body. Sure won't buy an R7. The tighter Canon's grip on customers, the more photographers will slip through their fingers. I am truly saddened Canon has turned their back on us and deliberately made their gear not compatible with a multitude of great vintage glass we own. At retirement age, I am not spending that kind of money starting over. So over my next 30 years there will be no more new Canon cameras for me. I can't support corporate greed over flexibility and pure love of the art of photography.😢 You do this to yourself, Canon.

@WelcometotheJones Жыл бұрын

As a long time former Canon shooter, I believe they just don’t care! Customer service intentionally cripples their gear! Just one of the reasons I no longer use their products!

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Yea, I have been forced into shooting mostly Sony these days. It’s sad, I love the Canon feel, color, ergonomics, but the have really not looked after their loyal customers.

@tareqalmahmid1113 Жыл бұрын

Have you tried to turned of " Retract lens on power off " orange menu #4?

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

No, but I will try it. I will try anything, well, just about anything.

@justinjohnson4246 Жыл бұрын

So basically it’s a case-use that probably only affects 1% of R7 users. How do you think companies prioritize fixes? If 99% of users don’t have the problem it’s going to be low on the hit list.

@jiahaoshi8434 7 ай бұрын

I think a lot of r7&manual lens users just don't realize this problem. I have been using the laowa 25 0.95 cf for a long time at shutter speeds above 1/30s. At first I just thought it was because the ibis of R7 was not good or the support of all ibis for manual lenses was not as good as electronic lenses.

@cityguytexas1964 4 ай бұрын

Hi Mark - Certainly appreciate your efforts to call attention to the IBIS problem on the R7. Before I saw this KZfaq video, I had put in an order for a R7, which is intended to be used with a Metabones 0.71x adapter and Contax /Zeiss vintage lenses. Firmware V 1.40 of 12/5/23 may have solved the R7 IBIS problem, that you describe in your video. I assume that you've updated your R7's firmware to V 1.4.0 ? Could you put an addendum to this video (or a new video) to clarify If the firmware update solved your observed problem(s). Regards from Houston TX !

@markwiemels 4 ай бұрын

No, the firmware has not fixed the problem.

@cityguytexas1964 4 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels Hi Mark - I wanted to provide you with an update on my experience with my R7 and the Metabone 0.71x adapter using a Carl Zeiss vintage lens. I selected a Contax/Zeiss 25mm F 2.8 (T*) lens and the Contax/Yashica CY Metabones 0.71x CINE Speed Booster for the test. The R7 firmware is 1.4.0. The camera body's IS was on - the camera menu focal length set at 25mm. All other pertinent camera menu settings were set to manual. A number of test 4K videos clips were recorded, hand-held panning, but standing in one position. In all of the test 4K clips when viewed on the camera's video playback showed a smooth, non-jittery playback. The camera's menu setting of 25mm did not change when the camera as turned off/off. I hope since my initial message that you've been able to resolve your R7 problem !

@charlielipthratt7291 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining all these issues. I was leaving towards buying the R7, but will look elsewhere. I was also looking at Fuji's x-t5, but I keep reading about auto focus issues there. Any recommendations for wildlife and travel?

@superstringsbro 11 ай бұрын

Look at the Sony cameras. You can also look at the canon r10 which has no ibis. I was wanting to get it but trying to hold out til they release a couple more apsc lenses.

@superstringsbro 10 ай бұрын

The Fuji xs20. The auto focus is very good once you set it correctly.

@superstringsbro 10 ай бұрын

@@naseeb46 I’m waiting for the A7c ii now which should be announced in a couple of months. In the meantime I did get the r10 cause I found a great deal and I love it. I got the 16mm 2.8 and the rfs 18-150 and I’m set until canon releases better rfs lenses.

@superstringsbro 10 ай бұрын

@@naseeb46 yea I heard. I do more video than pictures so will probably get the A7c ii

@billmartin1663 Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if this is an IBIS problem or a focus problem. But when taking stills of wildlife with the R7, it is essential to take a BUNCH of shots for each image. Why? Because, even at f/8 or f/11, the focus "wobbles." In a string of three images taken at the same time with a single shutter button push, two of the images will be focused very slightly ahead or behind the desired focus point and one (maybe) will be properly focused. To be safe, a stills shooter should take 7 or 8 images with each shot. (But no more than that, because the R7's buffer is tiny.) It's a frustrating camera. When it performs well, it is amazing. But the IBIS / focus stability is a problem that should never be present in a camera at any price point. Mobile phone cameras don't have this issue!

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Yes, this is a focus issue and is a known issue in the community. It's not great.

@JamesSallabim Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the default value is related to crop - 50 would be closer to 30 than 85 to 50. I guess you could try putting in 80 on 50 and then seeing if it matches up after rebooting

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Interesting idea, worth a try anyways. Not sure if crop, should or would effect the ibis? but it’s easy to test.

@JamesSallabim Жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels it definitely shouldn't, but this bug shouldn't be happening anyways haha. I'm more wondering if it has to do with copying firmware between fullframe and aps-c and forgetting a step in certain situations

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

@@JamesSallabim I agreed, it’s not a bad idea al all.

@jiahaoshi8434 7 ай бұрын

The crop factor does not affect the actual focal length in any way. It only affects the equivalent focal length - it only accounts for the change in the angle of view of the lens without changing the physical length. Only the speed booster actually changes the physical focal length of the lens.

@ElevenAce Жыл бұрын

Loool... As a Canon RP user I can tell you that Canon doesn't care to fix minor glitches or give us quality of life updates...

@alexandregalanteocdy2768 10 ай бұрын

A guy in some forum said that it can simply be done by turning IS mode off, press the shutter half way to begin metering, and then turn IS mode back. Doesn´t need to always put another value to focal lenght. Did you test this? if it´s true, maybe we just need to press "set" and turn off half press e turn on with the shortcut. I Bougth a R7, but with no manual focus lens yet

@markwiemels 10 ай бұрын

Thanks the info. I tested this and it does work. I can not find a way to program a button to toggle the IS on and off. Best I have found is going into the Q menu and turn it off, meter, then turn it back on.

@markwiemels 10 ай бұрын

Looks like if you just toggle on and off from the Q menu, it fixes it. don't need the 1/2 press.

@calcorstudios-rvcstevenson3666 Жыл бұрын

I so want to get this camera but have been waiting for a firmware update that likely will not come. That and the lens situation has kept me from pulling the trigger. I love my M6MII but want the superior animal AF features. Been with Canon for decades, but may be at a dead end as I am not a pro. They are thumbing their nose at the consumer/enthusiast market.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Yes, I bough this camera, but due to firmware issues and lack of lenses, it’s basically a paperweight. It’s actually worse than the m6 mark ii because you can get some great lenses for ef-m, the Viltrox and sigma lenses.

@calcorstudios-rvcstevenson3666 Жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels I was hoping that there were enough m-mount cameras out there to encourage continued 3rd party lens development. Wishful thinking. Thanks for all your posts!

@jiahaoshi8434 7 ай бұрын

Apparently Canon has given up on the efm system - both the m6 mkii and 32 1.4 are shown to be discontinued. But I recommend that you enjoy what you have, as discontinuation of production does not render the camera or lens you have on hand useless. After I sold my m6 mkii I discovered that the rp and r7 are not perfect either. The former lacks a fully mechanical shutter and a fully electronic shutter, and has a shutter speed limit of 1/4000s. The latter is even more lacking in lenses than the efm system, and there is such a vicious bug that degrades the manual lens experience.

@Jason_Hermann Жыл бұрын

This is crazy dude, what a shame.... Thanks for the info Mark!

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yah, it’s honestly driving me mad. The Canon community has done the hard part, we have actually done the trouble shoot, they just won’t fix it.

@michaelgomez4314 Жыл бұрын

If you bought Nikon Z9, you would not have these problems, Nikon is the only top camera company that have frame system that could support any lens from canon and sony, etc. And the value you get from Nikon is worth it. Camera basically for life in Z8/Z9 without mech shutter, flagship specs, and very good price, that is why Z9/Z8 are top selling cameras right now by wide margin.

@andypandy3736 Жыл бұрын

i bought the canon r5 then the r3 and have just sold both as i just feel canon are making cameras a bit cheaper with better plastic they just dont feel like the old 1dx cameras that were built like tanks ive now got z9 and sony a7r v and couldnt ask for anything more all adapted lenses work with the nikon no problems canon in my opinion have been skimping a bit look at the z7 z8 z9 all great build quality and no problems with 3rd party lenses what canon will do is bring a r1 that will be built like a tank like the old canons and allso have all the best bits but once again it will cost you a pretty some of money must add the canon 100 500mm is a fantastic lens but the r3 and r5 arnt made like the nikons or the old 1dx cameras

@Universal_Craftsman 4 ай бұрын

I agree, the DSLRs were top notch, I still have my 7d I bought about 10 years ago and never had issues, I am not a pro, but the newer mirror less bodies don't seem to have the same level of quality.

@junovue 6 ай бұрын

so what to buy instead of this?

@SMGJohn 3 ай бұрын

Fuji XT-5, Sony A6700 or Panasonic G9II the sky is the limit

@pixlplague Жыл бұрын

Wow that's so Canon. I was looking at getting an R7 and using my EF-S lenses. Back to the drawing board I guess...

@craigcarlson4022 Жыл бұрын

For what it's worth, I've had the R7 for about two months and have tried several EF-S lenses with it, FOR STILLS PHOTOGRAPHY ONLY. The wide angle 10-18, 60mm macro and 24mm STM all produce quite good results, image quality wise. The IBIS seems to be working with those. The 55-250 STM just isn't a good enough lens for the 33 mp sensor. But in my mind, that's not an IBIS issue, but rather the very difficult demands being placed on the lens optics by the sensor. To be honest, I regret buying the R7. I've commented above on the issues I'm having with it. But I checked on the selling price if selling it 'near new' to KEH, and they only offer a quite low $900. That may be the biggest testimony to how the market is receiving the camera now that a number of people have it and are using it. Best of luck with your camera search. Craig C.

@pixlplague Жыл бұрын

@@craigcarlson4022 all good info thanks. I don't need a new body, but I was looking into a mirrorless camera if I choose to upgrade from my 80D. So now the question is stick with the 80D and get new glass or risk it. And quite honestly I may just go Nikon or Sony at this point...

@craigcarlson4022 Жыл бұрын

Yeas, i hear you. I too am hoping Sony or Nikon come out with serious apsc mirrorless offerings. I’m holding off buying a better (more expensive) birding lens until i know what brand i’ll choose.

@JosephKim Жыл бұрын

Only if Canon listens to the users...Only if Canon cares about updating the firmwares to maintain their cameras...(and this behavior seems consistent across their entire camera lineup)

@martinhommel9967 Жыл бұрын

How many people are affected? How big of an issue is it in the scheme of things? The EF and EFs issue is a more serious issue as people have bought lenses from them and Canon may seem to abandon those customers.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Yes, I specifically talked about the ef and ef-s lens issue in the video. I can easily prove the issue with the manual lens, and it should be easy to fixed, which makes me question if any effort had gone into supporting the ef and ef-s lenses.

@martinhommel9967 Жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels I expect that most customers are just happy to use their 18 - 150 kit lenses with the R7 and Canon can’t be bothered to put any effort into supporting “non-standard” use cases. Like most big companies, sad

@thegreatvanziniphotos5976 Жыл бұрын

Next they'll be saying Canon has abandoned us efm users. Oh,,, wait!

@FalloutUrMum 5 ай бұрын

I use a Canon M50 mk 1, I don't even know if that has IBIS

@joop558 Жыл бұрын

I do not know but maybe you shoukd specify 85X1.6 = 136. Maybe you should try that.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Yea, tried that one, logical idea.

@JasonTheZoologist Жыл бұрын

Huh... thanks! I am contemplating canon or sony. I think I will go for Sony.

@hedleybradstone8594 Жыл бұрын

1. Yes, Canon should fix the memory problem whereby the R7 forgets the focal length of the dumb lens; 2. Their market research will have confirmed that most R7 users are happy using just the RF-S lenses. All three of them...

@jiahaoshi8434 7 ай бұрын

Most entry-level camera users may be satisfied with one or two lenses. Maybe a 18-150mm as an all round lens, a cheap rf50 1.8 to experience the wide aperture. What surprises me is that Canon still launches a flagship apsc body like the r7 - I once thought they intended to use full frame to meet the needs of all users from entry level to professional level.

@vaskes123 5 ай бұрын

A missed opportunity for the R7 to be a great camera, it's so frustrating. Being in the Canon system since 2012, now I'm looking for a jump to Panasonic or Sony. What a shame... 🥴

@brownshoe72 Ай бұрын

Sounds like you have a lemon. Mine works well with ZERO issues!

@Art_Wine_And_Anarchy Жыл бұрын

Canon seems to be doing things to force us to invest in the newest RF-mount glass.

@MO-ss7qt Жыл бұрын

Canon has become a totalitarian company. Yeah, a weird thing to say. But it seems more and more their actions are out of Klaus Schwab's book and reflect "We'll give you what we want you to get and you'll like it." I'm paying a lot of attention to other manufacturers. I'm absolutely never buying another Canon camera. The 3rd party lens thing is enough of their crap for me. They say "phuck ewe" and I say "no, phuck ewe."

@wellingtoncrescent2480 Жыл бұрын

As an R7 user, I share your frustration, but I had understood that Canon's prohibition on 3rd party lenses was only meant to apply to autofocus lenses, at least according to Canon's initial press releases. More recently, they announced a licensing deal with Voigtlander, for a nifty fifty RF mount with autofocus. At the same time, they announced that licensing deals with other AF lens manufacturers would be processed on a "case-by-case basis". In the meantime, it certainly would be nice if "official" policy towards manual focus lenses trickled down to their support staff!

@jiahaoshi8434 7 ай бұрын

The situation with the Voigtlander 50 f1.0 lens is slightly different. Canon announced that they will give the green light to lenses not provided by the Canon RF lens group to supplement the system's deficiencies. Canon has really treated the Voigtlander differently - this lens has electronic contacts to communicate with the RF camera. This means that the 50 f1.0 will automatically report the focal length to the camera body without requiring manual input from the user. But apparently the manual lenses that will get this treatment are still very few.

@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Жыл бұрын

Well that’s crazy. Let’s get a fix in there!!

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

I will be over with a 6 pack and a bag of screwdrivers, should take us about 15 minutes.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

This would be more than Canon is doing anyways.

@nahpungnome Жыл бұрын

Don't buy a Canon thinking you'll have 3rd party lens/accessory support from Canon. I have a couple of Sigma Sport lenses that I use on my R7 and they don't behave anywhere near as well as my adapted Canon EF lenses, but that's expected (sadly). Sigma also hasn't released any kind of firmware update for my lenses since 2020, so my hopes of my lenses pulsing being fixed is pretty much non-existent. If I were starting today, I'd be looking into Sony to be honest.

@michaelgomez4314 Жыл бұрын

Same issue you will face on sony, had u heard how their flagship a1 did not get any firmware update? Compare that to z9 and its compatibility to all lens.

@bimosunupoernomo7120 11 ай бұрын

This guy Is genius! HE IS THE BEST

@gerhardbotha7336 11 ай бұрын

Weird? All my EF lenses have no issues with IBIS.

@markwiemels 11 ай бұрын

This was really about manual lenses, although EF lensed with IS also seem to have different issues. My EF 50mm, adapted, is perfect for example.

@timog7358 Жыл бұрын

there is also a major flaw in canons apsc lens lineup

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Really? Who needs more than 2 plastic kit lenses? ;-)

@MyChevySonic 11 ай бұрын

I was choosing between a z5, r7, and a7iii. This narrows my options down. 😂

@markwiemels 11 ай бұрын

The Sony lens options are the best by a mile, this makes buying a Sony very attractive.

@thehararean Жыл бұрын

Look towards LUMIX guys

@ClearComplexity 7 ай бұрын

No one should be surprised that Canon isn't supporting crop sensor bodies as well as they should. They are one of the biggest pushers of the full frame cult, the "but muh full frame" crowd. RF is locked (rumors say it will be opened up recently, I'll believe it when it's real) and setup so that if you want a fast prime, you're spending more money than you should have to on bulkier FF glass. Even then it's only going to a non-standard focal length, which isn't the end of the world, but if you look at something like EF-M and primes, you get standard focal lengths more or less out of the 22mm and 32mm. Canon doesn't want to sell R7's, they want to sell FF bodies and the higher profit FF glass. It's a shame, but they don't care, crop bodies are just extra stepping stones they market to beginners to then be replaced by another body down the line sooner than is really needed. The R7 is strange in that what it offers would fall more in line for enthusiast and even non-programmed pro's. I would have an R7 if Canon would at the least let Sigma carry APS-C for them on RF. I would basically have an EF-RF adaptor on the R7 at all times if I used one. I have used a M6ii with EF lenses and almost opted to go that route as a for fun setup, to use my old and relatively recent EF lenses. If Canon didn't have such clear anti-consumer practices I probably would have got an R7 to go with my MFT kit as a side body, possibly even a main if I got the fast small/light native primes I would use for photojournalism.

@jiahaoshi8434 7 ай бұрын

EFM is allowed to have sigma 1.4 trio at least.. but the efm sytem never owns ibis till the end... shame on canon, shame.

@michael2gen Жыл бұрын

They just dont want to compromise and they dont like third party lenses

@abitofaviation 10 ай бұрын

They should just open the firmware and let magic lantern be installed on all their cameras and they will do tremendous amount of money.

@markwiemels 10 ай бұрын

That's probably true.

@joostverpoort Жыл бұрын

What ever you want to mount it works on a Panasonic Lumix S.....even Canon lenses from every age!

@ronaldmmiller Жыл бұрын

Meh… it’s always best to use native glass. Albeit we like to adapt third party gear (mostly for cost/sometimes for quality, sometimes for performance), the R7 does perform well with it’s native glass… which it was designed for. Don’t hear what I’m not saying. I like adapting my gear also, but I can’t fault the camera company for not focusing (Pun Intended) on it’s native system.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I absolutely get that, my major issue is that they put a function in the Camera that doesn’t work, and they aren’t fixing it. If you use Canon’s own Cinie lenses, they will have the same problem. I actually bought the camera to use as a budget run and gun cine camera, because it was designed to do that… except it doesn’t. Agree, with the RF lenses the IBIS is phenomenal.

@matthewsinger Жыл бұрын

Is that true of the RF cine lenses?

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

@@matthewsinger yes, all manual lenses.

@Wszyc Жыл бұрын

Tbh i would also dont care about some ef/efs stuff if it was my company, adapters are to make the transfer easier and not to stick to old lenaes forever even if we dont have the full RF line up that covers old ef and efs. There are companys that care more about users like this but its not like you make business its about making every year a new entry level stuff that people buy others for birthday :) the most important camera in canon lineup is now r50 it will outsell 10times any r5 r6 r7, who will care about some 2k-4k of users that want to adopt some cine lenses ( the term not know to average human) when you are selling 60-100k of units to others that do pictures to there dogs and cats xD

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Lol. Some great points in here! Still, it’s not even legal to sell a product, with clearly advertised features, that don’t work, you know they don’t work, and you don’t fix them. That’s just basic consumer law, they really do need to fix it, legally.

@notDarjix Жыл бұрын

I'm lacking a open door in the background

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Lol. Door open or closed? What’s your vote? I also forgot to turn on the lights behind the monitor.

@notDarjix Жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels I vote for open doors. It truly appears to be a heavenly place. Moreover, I am aware that it's indeed considered a heavenly place by the majority of married males. Lol

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

@@notDarjix lol, gave me a good laugh! Thanks for the vote. I may take a survey on the community page.

@timothykieper Жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels Closed please. Somewhat distracting.

@borocotochacha 11 ай бұрын

Once Canon launched R system with RP and R without IBIS, was enough for me to not going into it. Every model had serious issues which made the system for my use case too unstable and the most expensive one. I´ve earned almost 3000 dollars after selection of another brand. Canon still plays and usurps from past loyalty.

@rorylisbon4723 Жыл бұрын

People should stick with the M series which you produced awesome videos on the M50 and lenses. Btw Sony doesnt have these problems. Canon dismissing EF, EF-S lens not supported with EF -R adapter is really bad comment. RF lens are way too limited and expensive and I would bet just same lense designs as EF except in different RF housing. Its all a scam.

@quang5DCameras 2 ай бұрын

Never Buy any camera in their First Generation. Always have many issues that are not fixed. Wait for MK2 and later on.

@andrear9500 Жыл бұрын

Maybe they need a recall to fix it. Which means they find excuses not to do it

@gerardferry3958 11 ай бұрын

now you tell me

@CRaul87 Жыл бұрын

Canon is the Apple of the camera world ...

@TySPAID Жыл бұрын

The R7 could be treated as prestigious as the FX30 with a couple of firmware fixes

@sexysilversurfer Жыл бұрын

Canon doesn’t care about aps-c cameras other than milking profits. You will have to buy the R7mkii for that.

@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging Жыл бұрын

"An Abandon Camera' wow...

@Daniel_Borisov Жыл бұрын

No joke - after watching this video, my interest into the Sony Alpha system increased a lot, and now I'm looking into it as transition from my Canon camera and lenses. Canon's attitude just speaks for itself. Latest generation EOS mirrorless cameras have very few native lenses and all 3rd-party manufacturers are blocked unlike any competitor like Sony, Nikon, Panasonic, Fujifilm. But Canon's saving grace is with adapting older DSLR lenses. However, Canon had never invested much in their APS-C systems compared to other competitors. Their sharpest glass and highest-quality lenses have always been full-frame. EOS-M is a painful recent example - with only the 32mm Canon lens being sharp enough to utilise the full resolution of the M6 mkii. When I look back, I choose Canon because of their menu system and colour science. Sony was in fact at the bottom of my list solely because of their menu system. As a beginner, I just didn't want to fuss with frustrating ergonomics for very similar visuals and no real gain from my photographic experience. Now, considering the mid-long-term investment into a camera and lens system, Sony stands out for me. And I love Sony's dual-gain sensors with a degree of ISO invariance for shooting in the dark. So I'm looking forward to selling all my Canon gear one day for Sony gear.

@catalin-ap Жыл бұрын

Don't worry. Us Sony users swear Sony for not upgrading firmware in their top of the line 1-2 year old cameras with features introduced in their newer but lesser cameras. On the other hand, Sony is much better in video than Canon's non-cinema bodies -- better AF, more workable video, gyro data etc. And you even have up to 2 zebras, histogram, and audio levels that you can toggle on/off while you record!

@michaelgomez4314 Жыл бұрын

Wait untilf your Sony cam goes to require paid firn update, lol. These cripple hammers in sony and canon are upsurd

@thomastuorto9929 Жыл бұрын

Not new news. Canon wants you to purchase CanonRF lenses. Should of went Sony or Nikon Z9/8!

@rolybaker7770 Жыл бұрын

They just want to sell the RF lenses $$$$$$, low profit on camera, high profit on lenses....a bit like their printers/printer cartridges.

@notaturkey2607 Жыл бұрын

Unskippable ads in the beginning of the video are too much.

@gigihanmandarin Жыл бұрын

Dont fault the creator it is not in their hands.

@craigcarlson4022 Жыл бұрын

@@gigihanmandarin Agreed, youtube creator has no control over those.

@zenarobinson3851 Жыл бұрын

i pay something - £9.99, i think - per month to have no ads at all! wonderful! well worth it, IMHO!

@midnitemedia Жыл бұрын

frustrating how easy it should be to fix this but canon just ignores it completely

@YeohosuaSenpai 8 ай бұрын

At it's core, THIS is why I moved to Fuji. Huge weight off my shoulder from all the BS Canon shoves our way. Remember y'all, don't just buy a camera flat out. Test them before you buy them through rental sites, it saves you tons of money when companies pull these shenanigans.

@briandonnelly3052 Жыл бұрын

focal legnth? Learn to spell length, please. Otherwise, very good video.

@markwiemels Жыл бұрын

Yeah, typo.

@bamsemh1 Жыл бұрын

People still buy, so why should they care?

@paul2d Жыл бұрын

Canon clearly wants customers to buy Sony products.

@febryandartansyah Жыл бұрын

another usual canon cripple hammer. the only canon camera i recommend its R8, cuz its cheap full frame at 1500 USD. for other budget and necessity, other brand is more recommended