The Carbon Arc Lamp

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EdisonTechCenter TechCenter

EdisonTechCenter TechCenter

12 жыл бұрын

The first electric light: inventors, history, how it works. From Volta to Sperry the development of the arc lamp. The carbon arc lamp is a HID - High Intensity Discharge lamp which sends an arc through the vaporized carbon formed between two electrodes. Charles Brush and Pavel Yablochkov probably contributed most to the design. Part of the Tour EL by the Edison Tech Center. Learn more about the electric light on our website.

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@TheCosmicThrust
@TheCosmicThrust 4 жыл бұрын
I always though how weird it was that old lights were so bright but the source was so small.
@stu460
@stu460 10 жыл бұрын
well explained..excellent
@masterofreality926
@masterofreality926 2 жыл бұрын
So much more correct than CNBC news. And way more funny. - I was first ) It`s actually quite intriguing that some inventions did happen at the same time on different parts of the world. Patent holywars )
@Irish2007
@Irish2007 11 жыл бұрын
what was the old channel called
@randacnam7321
@randacnam7321 12 жыл бұрын
Incandescent lamps were (and to a certain extent still are) used for street lighting applications.
@charliemctruth
@charliemctruth 10 жыл бұрын
Very informative.
@thakurelectrical4039
@thakurelectrical4039 3 жыл бұрын
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@vladey96
@vladey96 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Cory from Oneyplays
@next2normalnz186
@next2normalnz186 10 жыл бұрын
used them in late 70s on the littlejohn camera, they had lots of flouride in them,about 15% or more
@Rainer67059
@Rainer67059 4 жыл бұрын
From a consumer perspective this lamp unites all the disadvantages of candles, oil lamps and gas lighting. From a producer/trader/supplier perspective this lamp unites all the advantages of candles, oil lamps and gas lighting. A candle burns down and needs to be replaced. A carbon arc lamp has two carbon sticks that both burn down and need to be replaced. A gas lantern needs to be connected to a supply line and needs to receive constant gas supply. It needs to be supplied with gas from a grid. A carbon arc lamp is electrical. It needs to be connected to an electric grid. It needs constant supply from a supply line. An oil lamp needs to be refilled with oil. A carbon arc lamp has moving parts. The moving parts have bearings. The bearings need to be oiled from time to time. On top of that it may need maintenance.
@thebogangamer1
@thebogangamer1 4 жыл бұрын
yes but the light is put out was incredible, mean it put out so much that it was better to have a few lamps that are need maintenance and replacement parts the to have thousands of all those other kinds of lighting sources.
@helplmchoking
@helplmchoking 11 ай бұрын
They also destroy your eyes with UV, so there's that
@moschettiflavio3635
@moschettiflavio3635 Жыл бұрын
Good explanation. I should build a small one with similar regulating coils but no choke, with something like 40V DC and 10amps. Wich i think its the minimal requirement. I think would look nice cotton covered wire, but the wire on the coils become hot? Can cotton withstand the high temperature?
@helplmchoking
@helplmchoking 11 ай бұрын
Make sure you wear sunglasses, these things pump out a tonne of UV (that's their only real use now)
@EdisonTechCenter
@EdisonTechCenter 12 жыл бұрын
Im moving videos off of our old video channel and to this one, so you may have seen this one before.
@TokenChineseGuy
@TokenChineseGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Dope
@henryposadas3309
@henryposadas3309 10 ай бұрын
Why are movie arc lights white and not greenish? It actually produces the closes white to sunlight without any green spikes. Probably has a Color Rendering Index of 100. From what you showed here, movie arc lamps seem to operate the same way, just bigger and more powerful. What changed?
@desireebaxter461
@desireebaxter461 4 жыл бұрын
Hertha Aryton got rid of the horrible hissing made by the lamps.
@edlesage7782
@edlesage7782 3 жыл бұрын
can i buy one??
@electroimpex8897
@electroimpex8897 7 жыл бұрын
I used the Carbon Rods out of a Lantern Battery, and Cranked it right up to 200 Amps. All was Bright, no Shadow, but the Rods lasted only 1 Minute
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 6 жыл бұрын
That's because as the air and carbon became ionized, the resistance was lowered, and because of Ohm's law the current climbed until the rods were destroyed.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't just a simple resistor in series be sufficient?
@jmd1743
@jmd1743 11 ай бұрын
What cool technology. Up there with Neon Lights.
@vrindharajeev6015
@vrindharajeev6015 3 жыл бұрын
𝓥𝓮𝓻𝔂 𝓲𝓷𝓯𝓸𝓻𝓶𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓿𝓮...𝔀𝓮𝓵𝓵 𝓮𝓹𝓵𝓪𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓭 ..𝓼𝓸 𝓰𝓸𝓸𝓭
@EdisonTechCenter
@EdisonTechCenter 12 жыл бұрын
The Bagdad battery may or may not have been the first. Also there was talk of ability to build capacitors in ancient Egypt, so we will not discount these completely.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 6 жыл бұрын
Leyden Jars?
@kyzf
@kyzf 6 жыл бұрын
...no
@CampKohler
@CampKohler 12 жыл бұрын
You say Volta's battery was the first in the western world, which implies that there was a perhaps an earlier battery in the eastern world. What was the latter?
@wenweiwong1279
@wenweiwong1279 11 жыл бұрын
The picture of Vasily Petrov is actually wrong, it should be Laplace.
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's so cool that the headlights in my late model Mustang use basically this same 19th century technology.
@Naitrio
@Naitrio 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 6 жыл бұрын
Why were they so noisy? I know that transformers buzz because of the 50 or 60hz frequency of the lines, but would they buzz under DC power like from aVoltic Pile? I'm not really familiar with high voltage and have never worked on anything using it, mostly because I'm afraid of accidentally killing myself or someone else.
@jasongillies40
@jasongillies40 6 жыл бұрын
twistedyogert it's likely the arc itself. I have no experience with these lights, but when welding there is a pretty good noise from the arc. My 2 cents.
@twinklecaress
@twinklecaress 6 жыл бұрын
The Carbon Rods oxidises in the air and hence why the noise.
@Mirroxaphene
@Mirroxaphene 3 жыл бұрын
@@twinklecaress the air oxidizing has absolutely nothing to do with the noise. The noise is caused by the 60 hertz oscillation from alternating current. An arc is struck 120 times a second causing the humming noise. DC lamps are completely silent.
@Mirroxaphene
@Mirroxaphene 3 жыл бұрын
I have several videos of DC carbon arc lamps. They are completely silent.
@bumbumcharlie2186
@bumbumcharlie2186 3 жыл бұрын
Wow they got those bright white light so early?! Awesome... i got Herr because i was searching for ww2 searchlights...because i did Not inderstand what light Source in the 1940's van Make such bright white light ...that powerful it can light up the Sky...the answer: carbon arc I didn't Know about that I thought the only there was incandescent ...then xenon i thought singe 1990 maybe (arc lamp ) and latest the led Technology
@I967
@I967 6 жыл бұрын
No František Křižík?
@danielkreipke3987
@danielkreipke3987 3 жыл бұрын
How were arc lamps like these powered?
@thakurelectrical4039
@thakurelectrical4039 3 жыл бұрын
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@danielkreipke3987
@danielkreipke3987 3 жыл бұрын
@@thakurelectrical4039 Were volatic piles usuall yused to power these old arc lamps?
@drewgehringer7813
@drewgehringer7813 Жыл бұрын
@@danielkreipke3987 in Yablochkov's first 'candles', DC from batteries or a Gramme machine. in his later designs that saw the most commercial use, AC.
@NUSORCA
@NUSORCA Жыл бұрын
arc lamp is like burning gunpowder for light
@TheDarkBlob
@TheDarkBlob 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, Googled about arc lamps. accidentally went to your read on homepage AND watch your video at the same time not realizing it's the same creator until the pictures shown were literally the same
@stoopidhaters
@stoopidhaters 2 жыл бұрын
I heard Carbon Arc Lamps have the best Light Quality even above Incandescents but are the most inefficient Electrical Lighting.
@roydondsouza3973
@roydondsouza3973 4 жыл бұрын
Ooooo
@chadrowland5234
@chadrowland5234 Жыл бұрын
But be careful! The lights from that era were a different voltage than what we have today. And, many of them used 133 Hertz AC, 200 Hertz AC and even DC. Electricity was not standardized back then and voltage and frequency was all over the place and all across the board. Not only that but the label on the fixture will have fallen off and no telling what the power requirements were at that point. ARC LAMPS FROM THE 1800'S CAN'T BE RUN ON 60 HERTZ AC. Doing so WILL damage components. If you do want to attempt running an 1800's arc lamp, I would HIGHLY recommend the DC model. But I would STRONGLY discourage running an 1800's era carbon arc lamp at all if you can help it. Although with DC you can series batteries together and get the voltage that a DC arc lamp needed, I would STRONGLY recommend against it and stick with mercury vapor, high pressure sodium, and metal halide. The open arc is a fire hazard and finding parts for those things would be impossible. Carbon arc lamps had the arc in the air. Like he said in this video. Carbon arc lamps did the arc in the air so, the arc was open. Common sense rules will tell you that open arcs are a fire hazard. My AHJ (Authorities Having Jurisdiction) won't allow me to use carbon arc lamps with good reason because of the open arc operating in the air. However, I have run into a few carbon arc lamps from that era and I almost always prefer to simply stick a metal halide ballast and MH bulb into it. Finding carbon rods would be impossible. And, the open arc is a MAJOR and BIG TIME fire insurance claim just waiting to happen, insurance will be a problem with running open arc lights like this and can even become a legal liability risk if you are not careful. Mercury vapor, high pressure sodium, and metal halide are CLOSED ARC which are safer. Because, everything is all inside the arc tube and inside a glass bulb. See the difference?
@rbolo29
@rbolo29 10 жыл бұрын
My car headlights are HID-XENON. Very bright!
@thepurdychannel8866
@thepurdychannel8866 5 жыл бұрын
Different technology
@thepurdychannel8866
@thepurdychannel8866 4 жыл бұрын
They are miniturised metal halide tubes
@jegr3398
@jegr3398 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares about your car's headlights
@delelaniyan9898
@delelaniyan9898 5 жыл бұрын
AH! Same function as a vape (e-cigarette)
@stoopidhaters
@stoopidhaters 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Vapes used a heating coil like an Incandescent or Heater.
@RabbitsInBlack
@RabbitsInBlack 2 жыл бұрын
LOL Now we use LEDS.
@nerdytech7287
@nerdytech7287 Жыл бұрын
search query on KZfaq " ark light -survival -music -lost -game". FML
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