The Carrollton Bus Disaster | A Short Documentary | Fascinating Horror

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Fascinating Horror

Fascinating Horror

Күн бұрын

"On the 14th of May, 1988, a group from the Radcliff First Assembly of God Church spent the day at the Kings Island Amusement Park in Ohio..."
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Background
02:12 - The Accident
06:25 - The Aftermath
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@iusedtowrite6667
@iusedtowrite6667 2 жыл бұрын
Drunk driving incidents scare me. You could do everything right and still lose you life just cause someone wanted to drive drunk.
@flyingmintbunny1286
@flyingmintbunny1286 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.. so scary.. a month ago my mums friend (very close family friend ) got hit by a drunk driving teenage girl who and i kid you not, got no jail time and only a short interview because she was crying and was soo sorry.. her husband became paralysed from the waist down, as an ambulance worker, that more or less could put him out of work.. it's shocking!
@donwoodward7944
@donwoodward7944 2 жыл бұрын
They don't "want" to drive drunk. They usually simply think they are sober enough to drive. I let one of my friends (who was clearly drunk) drive home one night. Somehow he convinced me he'd be fine. He made it home, but I've always felt guilty about it. I should have insisted on driving him home, but he lived pretty far out of my way. Even though nothing bad happened, I've always regretted my decision and if I'm ever in that situation again, I'll never let the person drive. I worried about him for the rest of the night and called him first thing in the morning to make sure he was OK. I made the wrong choice and we both got lucky. My heart goes out to anyone who has lost someone to a drunk driver. Look out for your friends and relatives, especially with the holidays approaching, and do anything you can to prevent a senseless tragedy! It's always worth it. Go the extra mile.
@John-ns9lr
@John-ns9lr 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah unfortunately they have very lax rules regarding drunk driving in the US for some reason.
@lunayoshi
@lunayoshi 2 жыл бұрын
@@John-ns9lr this was the '80s though and laws have gotten much stricter since then, so that's something at least.
@John-ns9lr
@John-ns9lr 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunayoshi most states have pretty high allowed alcohol levels still. And seems to be more socially acceptable to be drunk driving as well
@whitewolf8051
@whitewolf8051 2 жыл бұрын
"Hey, you're too drunk to drive!" "Its alright, I'm just going to drive." "Oh alright that's fine then."
@F3udF1st
@F3udF1st 2 жыл бұрын
He would've convinced me too, speech 100.
@pollypockets508
@pollypockets508 2 жыл бұрын
I know. Crazy.
@sideswipe604
@sideswipe604 2 жыл бұрын
I can only assume that his friends were also drunk and not thinking straight.
@georgedoughly8682
@georgedoughly8682 2 жыл бұрын
His friends are very stupid 🤦🏻‍♂️
@FrostySumo
@FrostySumo 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah what the fuck those friends of his have to have some of the blame for this. It's one thing if your friend decides to drive drunk and you don't realize it it's another if you know they're too drunk and you take their keys away. At that point you taking on the responsibility to make sure that person does not drive (exceptions of course if they steal the keys back or find another way to drive). Call them a cab. From what my parents say people were really nonchalant about drunk driving when they grew up. It's a big deal. Probably one of the worst drugs you could drive on.
@MajBuffalo
@MajBuffalo 2 жыл бұрын
I drove school busses for charter trips just like this and it feels so routine to have as much as 84 kids on board that you forget just how many families place their most precious thing in life in your hands. Good on the bus driver for trying his best.
@jayskicksnfits9372
@jayskicksnfits9372 12 күн бұрын
*buses*
@gatorfan17268
@gatorfan17268 2 жыл бұрын
I lost many friends in this bus accident. Many of the students went to Radcliff Middle School where I went. I only learned about the accident on Monday morning when I went to school. Will never forget that day. Most of the teachers did not teach, we just basically went from class to class and then just sat there talking. Lori Holzer and Crytsal Uhey will always be with me and in my thoughts.
@texastea5686
@texastea5686 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot even imagine. Reading your comment gave me chills =(
@pcguy13x
@pcguy13x 2 жыл бұрын
i was in the 6th grade at Radcliff elementary school, 12 years old. when this accident happened. i found out about it Sunday mourning from the news, getting ready for church. a lot of the kids went to my church then, so it was discussed at church too. i lived like 2 blocks from the church that owned the bus. many of the kids that were on the bus lived in the same trailer park as me. my best friend's sister died that night. she had became a really good friend of mine as well. i pretty much know who everyone was, most i did not know well. most of the kids i know, survived, but the girl i mentioned. this accident is why i am so strongly against drunk driving to this day. i can not believe is has been 34 years ago today. this is a sad day for a lot of us!!! i remember that monday morning at schoo as welll, they passed out detailed articles about it and school was just us kids and teacher mourning. the empty sits that would never be filled again with our friends. i will never forget that monday.
@BISMARCK-ks5it
@BISMARCK-ks5it Жыл бұрын
WOW 😳😣 nobody told you prior to going to school. I'm sorry for your loss I'm sorry that children have to die or that anyone has to die in order for safety regulations to be brought into place RIP to your friends lives cut short far too early.
@truthseeker2321
@truthseeker2321 Жыл бұрын
@@BISMARCK-ks5it It was in the local news cycle of both Cincinnati and Louisville for weeks, starting just one hour after the accident, so I'm puzzled how people who knew people involved, didn't know what happened until they heard about it at school the following Monday.
@SMGJohn
@SMGJohn Жыл бұрын
If only your friends were superior European übermench they would have been calm and saved everyone, instead they were unfortunate enough to be born american.
@cebbi1313
@cebbi1313 2 жыл бұрын
Have any other fans of this channel found themselves becoming hyper aware of emergency exits and fire hazards?
@bladergroen
@bladergroen 2 жыл бұрын
YEP. I always check where the nearest emergency exit is, wherever I am, and I even scan my surroundings to see if anything's made of flammable material.
@donwoodward7944
@donwoodward7944 2 жыл бұрын
Totally. My son rides a special needs bus to school every day. I'm going to be giving it the once-over this morning...
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm also hyper aware that being in a wheelchair not only reduces my chances of escape, but would probably cause significant problems for others in the event of an emergency, so resign myself to waiting til everyone else is out, with the knowledge that may well be a death sentence.
@ibahart3771
@ibahart3771 2 жыл бұрын
I always was. I've been the "annoying health-and-safety nag" in every workplace I've had
@cebbi1313
@cebbi1313 2 жыл бұрын
@@reachandler3655 Emergency protocol for disabled patrons: In event of fire, politely burn to death. Funny, the protocol for covid was roughly the same.
@soshiangel90
@soshiangel90 2 жыл бұрын
parent: "hey Ford...can you just...do the right thing and make sure this doesn't happen to any other kids in the future?" Ford:...."uh..no. take your hush money or nothing."
@quanage4296
@quanage4296 2 жыл бұрын
@@sed6657 why have a tone indicator lmao
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 2 жыл бұрын
Ford only made the chassis for use as school buses as well as other purposes such as a stake side trucks. A different company entirely used the Ford chassis to build the school bus. The big issue is how cheap school districts are, by insisting on cheap gasoline powered school buses, not being willing to pay for seat belts, etc. etc....
@nathanwilliams4005
@nathanwilliams4005 2 жыл бұрын
The hush money was probably much cheaper.
@DolleHengst
@DolleHengst 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanwilliams4005 Yeah, like it was cheaper to let the Pinto's burn and compensate the victims or their families, then to make a small change to all Pinto's to significantly improve the car's safety...
@squeakychairproductions6813
@squeakychairproductions6813 2 жыл бұрын
Why should they have to? That was an older bus that was being held to modern standards. When you buy an older vehicle you know what you are getting.
@AuthenticWe
@AuthenticWe Жыл бұрын
Can I just say how brief you keep your stories and never repeating the same information is a breath eeee of fresh air
@jake12466
@jake12466 2 ай бұрын
"Breath," not "breathe." "Breathe" is a verb.
@AuthenticWe
@AuthenticWe 2 ай бұрын
@@jake12466 I know how to take action, I don’t need your lessons mind your own
@serendpity3478
@serendpity3478 Ай бұрын
It's because he's a real person who does real research and narrates his own videos. So many other channe;ls now are AI generated scripts & voices, put out by content farms for cheap views.
@mariebelladonna437
@mariebelladonna437 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Louisville, Kentucky. Everyone around here remembers the "Carrollton Bus Crash", as we call it. I was only 8 years old when it happened. But I vividly remember the news footage, both of the crash, and of Larry Mahoney's trial and conviction. I remember the terrifying stories of the kids who didn't survive, and the equally terrifying stories of the ones who did, but with horrible injuries. I remember the outrage, and the horror and sadness. And I remember our own parents being afraid to allow us to go on bus trips, for some time after. I've driven on I-71, and been past the spot where the crash happened, many, many times. There's a plaque there, a historical marker, on the side of the interstate, put there in memory of those who died in the crash. There are crosses, I think, and often flowers, balloons, and stuffed animals, by the sign. And always, for me, there is a feeling of heartbreak, and a slight sense of fear, driving by, and looking at, the very spot where so many people lost their lives. The spot where so many families' very existence as they knew it, was forever shattered, never to be the same, ever again. In just an instant. By one man who made a terrible, horrible, devastating decision. I pray that these families have found some peace. And that the knowledge that their loved ones passing helped bring about safety changes, that may help others live, brings some comfort. May the ones who left us, continue to rest in peace. As an aside, I'd like to add that, though the one actual picture this video used of Larry Mahoney during his legal proceedings makes him look a bit defiant, he was, as they said, remorseful. More than that, in actuality, he was devastated by what he'd done. He not only destroyed the lives of those kids and families, that fateful night. He destroyed his own, too. He doesn't so much "live a quiet life", as he does hide, from the shame of what he did. He has to live with that, for the rest of his life-though I'm sure there have been plenty of times he's wished he'd died. He says he felt like he was in a nightmare, when they told him what had happened, and that it's a nightmare he's never woken up from. His remorse doesn't make things okay, of course. The nightmare he lives, is nothing, compared to that of the kids and families he hurt. And some might say he deserves the emotional torment. But I still think it's better than him not caring at all. Just thought that was worth mentioning.
@nicholasschroeder3678
@nicholasschroeder3678 2 жыл бұрын
I just can't believe he only served 10 years. It just shows what a screwed up orientation we have to drinking. He committed a mass murder of children, and he does a dime. Crazy. And he had a trail? He fought it? Crazier still.
@breannastrickland2393
@breannastrickland2393 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@TheMouseAvenger
@TheMouseAvenger 2 жыл бұрын
Well-said! :-) I agree with you wholeheartedly! ^_^
@texasbluegrass567
@texasbluegrass567 2 жыл бұрын
The last time I drove by there the marker had been removed.
@mariebelladonna437
@mariebelladonna437 2 жыл бұрын
@@texasbluegrass567 I haven't been by there in a while. I wonder why on earth would they do that?? That's awful! Unless they're maybe doing some roadwork there, or replacing it with a better one. Either way, I hope they put it back soon. Those poor kids (and their families) deserve to be remembered. Always.
@Ammanthiel
@Ammanthiel 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a toddler, my father and his friend were driving home after an afternoon shift at a factory he worked at, and they were hit by a drunk driver. I don’t know what happened to his friend, but my fathers been disabled my entire life as a result, and hasn’t been able to work. Drunk drivers make me so, so, infuriatingly angry. I’m very lucky to still have my dad. I get emotional when it comes to this topic. I can’t imagine the pain the victims families have gone through.
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549 2 жыл бұрын
Yelp
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549 2 жыл бұрын
Same my dad lost a friend to a drunk driver his friend was 17 years old and 20 days from Turing 18
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549 2 жыл бұрын
Sad
@OutsideGamerGirl
@OutsideGamerGirl 2 жыл бұрын
These incidents infuriate me, too. I've never been personally affected. Yet, my heart goes out to each family who had to suffer from irresponsible, pig-headed, imbeciles. Seems like the majority drunk drivers get to walk away and enjoy life while their victims either pass away or live with life-altering disabilities. When will people learn not to drink and drive?
@22161
@22161 2 жыл бұрын
I am really sorry for what happened to your Dad and your family. Maybe just maybe one or more learned from this.
@sadsalad01
@sadsalad01 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Radcliff and every year, from elementary school to high school, we had a survivor from the accident come in and tell us the story. Let me tell you, it got so much worse the older you got because you start to understand exactly what happened to the kids. That survivor is a bus driver for the high school in Radcliff I had him a couple times for band trips and he truly cared for each and everyone of us.
@qx4n9e1xp
@qx4n9e1xp 2 жыл бұрын
♥️
@lemon0sugar
@lemon0sugar 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Radcliff too, so I know what you mean
@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels
@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels 2 жыл бұрын
My question is, how can the survivor even be a bus driver after they almost died in one. I would think that he would have some kind of PTSD
@lemon0sugar
@lemon0sugar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels he actually talks about this, he did it to confront the trauma, it took him a LONG time
@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels
@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemon0sugar I feel bad for the guy, glad he's better now tho
@OlJarhead
@OlJarhead Жыл бұрын
My cousin was two cars behind the bus. He was with his girlfriend, also returning home from a day at Kings Island. I was watching the news coverage of the crash and there was Troy being interviewed by a news channel from Louisville. He had a shell shocked look on his face and was clearly tramatized by the event, telling about trying to get the kids out the back of the bus. I later asked him about it, and he refused to even talk about it.
@maddieevans9637
@maddieevans9637 2 жыл бұрын
This was in my home town, my sister knew one of the survivors and he told her he carries a huge amount of guilt (as an adult) being one of the few surviors. He said that he still hears the screams of his friends dying in the accident. I also drove past it every day to go to school and the radio ALWAYS cut out when I passed the marker.
@cohengamertv6548
@cohengamertv6548 Жыл бұрын
Paranormal activity
@Ordostank
@Ordostank 2 жыл бұрын
"Ford refused the offer." - a phrase scarier than the disaster itself.
@TikiOperator
@TikiOperator 2 жыл бұрын
"God made the world, then gave man all it needed to live without worry or problems - then man made money."
@hengineer
@hengineer 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I can think of is it would be impossible to find and recall every single bus, not just the monetary aspect.
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was sickening to hear!
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 2 жыл бұрын
@@hengineer No, it was the monetary aspect they had in mind when they rejected the offer sadly.
@ddichny
@ddichny 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlotteinnocent8752 See my reply to a similar post -- you're drastically underestimating the enormous logistical difficulty of doing so.
@jeffb5192
@jeffb5192 2 жыл бұрын
"No Ford, I dont want your money, just promise me to update your existing buses so this doesnt happen again" Ford: "OUTRAGEOUS!!! We will not!!!"
@glidershower
@glidershower 2 жыл бұрын
_"Shut up and take my hush money!"_
@malice6081
@malice6081 2 жыл бұрын
In school buses over a certain weight they don't need seatbelts due to them taking a while to stop after an accident so seatbelts are useless unless they flip.
@DavidCurryFilms
@DavidCurryFilms 2 жыл бұрын
Something something, Pinto, something...
@stanmann356
@stanmann356 2 жыл бұрын
It was cheaper for Ford to pay off the victims
@morgan-jadeironworks8313
@morgan-jadeironworks8313 2 жыл бұрын
@@malice6081 I was just referring to seat belt use in Passanger cars/trucks. Not busses
@Undercore-nx1fe
@Undercore-nx1fe 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work in that county as an EMT. I worked with two medics that had responded to the call. They described the bodies being charred and unrecognizable. It also changed our departments way of handling mass causality events and resource management.
@truthseeker2321
@truthseeker2321 Жыл бұрын
As a trucker who doesn't live in that area, I've seen plenty of accidents just in that stretch of interstate, mostly at night. The fog can get unbelievably thick off of the Kentucky River , causing motorists who do have common sense, to slow down way lower than the speed limit. I remember one bad accident right at the bus tragedy site, where a car stuffed itself under the rear of a flatbed trailer that was moving slowly through the thick fog. He must have been going way faster than the 70 mph speed limit, which by the way, is too damn fast to be driving in that thick of a fog.
@laurabaker8832
@laurabaker8832 2 жыл бұрын
I was living in Cincinnati when this accident occurred. Personally, I would not have let Mahoney out of prison until he had served a year for every life he took. It wasn't a mistake. He made a deliberate choice to drive drunk.
@pcguy13x
@pcguy13x 2 жыл бұрын
i remember the day he was released, 09-01-1999. i was so pissed. his sentence was not strong enough, and then still let him out early. he served less than 6 months per person that died. i was hoping he would have been charged 27 counts of murder, and had gotten life. i remember being shocked he was charged with 27 counts of manslaughter instead.
@StrazdasLT
@StrazdasLT Жыл бұрын
He is a mass murderer. The only correct punishment is a capital one.
@aceclover758
@aceclover758 Жыл бұрын
@@pcguy13x because it was manslaughter, not murder
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace Жыл бұрын
But he didn't make the deliberate choice to take lives. And that's the point.
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace Жыл бұрын
@@aceclover758 Yep. Emotion doesn't belong in the justice system (though lawyers on both sides use it all the time.)
@mikegilbert2329
@mikegilbert2329 2 жыл бұрын
This accident still haunts me today. I grew up in Louisville, Kentucky and used to drive this path to Kings Island many times each year. My friends and I went to the park the same day as this church group and were probably ten or fifteen minutes ahead of them on I-71 on the way home. I didn't hear about this until the next day when it was all over the news. I even had a few classes with Harold Dennis Jr. in college at U of K. What this video missed was that this accident became the battle cry for drunk driving reform. Prior to this, a DUI was merely a slap on the wrist with no actual consequences like license suspension or jail time. It also got the blood alcohol limit down from 0.10 to 0.08.
@silentjay01
@silentjay01 2 жыл бұрын
A first offense DUI that doesn't result in an accident is still just a misdemeanor and slap on the wrist here in Wisconsin thanks in large part to the powerful Tavern League lobbying group.
@Fangirl1327
@Fangirl1327 2 жыл бұрын
If memory serves Harold was a manager on the football team. He was an inspiration to the entire UK community 💙🤍
@katefarr2036
@katefarr2036 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Madisonville, and remember this horrible tragedy well. I remember the changing of DUI laws, and safety standards.
@silentjay01
@silentjay01 2 жыл бұрын
@Alice Kae As Phillip DeFranco said about the Henry Ruggs DUI crash, "It wasn't an accident; it was an inevitability."
@evil1by1
@evil1by1 2 жыл бұрын
@Alice Kae 💯 Drunk driving and texting while driving is premeditated murder. You know what your doing is deadly and your so incredibly fucking selfish that you do it anyway. All because you think your wants are more important that other people's lives...and they get away with it because of all the apologists. Boo hoo wouldn't want to ruin their life so screw all the people they destroyed.
@asleepeep
@asleepeep 2 жыл бұрын
You always hear of drunk drivers being remorseful and regretting what they had done. It's very frustrating because no matter how many of these incidents happen and no matter how much people regret their actions there are still going to be more drunk drivers and more incidents like this. Nobody learns until it's too late.
@hippopajamas
@hippopajamas 2 жыл бұрын
it's always so frustrating because EVERYONE knows not to drink and drive. People have to actively choose to ignore the risks because they DO know them. they just think "oh it won't happen to me" "i can handle my alcohol" "i can be careful". The choice is selfish and stems from hubris. Like, there isn't any wiggle room, you KNOW it is wrong.
@texastea5686
@texastea5686 2 жыл бұрын
San Antonio seems to be notorious for drunk/wrong way drivers. Every time I turn on the news there's another death in the road =( drunk drivers suck. What sucks too is that they always survive.
@bengitiger1292
@bengitiger1292 2 жыл бұрын
@@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197 Not worth the risk. Hitch an Uber home and pick up your car the next day.
@bengitiger1292
@bengitiger1292 2 жыл бұрын
@@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197 the risk of killing yourself or someone else. get a friend to drive you then.
@kenetickups6146
@kenetickups6146 2 жыл бұрын
Alcohol is a plaugue on society
@Cincinnatus1869
@Cincinnatus1869 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Ohio County Indiana, just about 25 minutes from Carrollton and was a high school freshman when this happened. It was absolutely awful to hear about it. It's still the most terrible traffic accident I've ever heard of. We had a substitute teacher one day about a year later who was one of the motorists who was at the scene. I can tell you with all credibility that a lot of us who lived in the area had a different view of the dangers of driving drunk . There were plenty of people who thought Larry Mahoney should have been locked up for the rest of his life.
@gyarubrainrotter5280
@gyarubrainrotter5280 Жыл бұрын
As someone who is a good 30 minutes away from Kings Island, I know how fun that place is. It breaks my heart to know how such a fun day turned into a tragedy.
@Diptera_Larvae
@Diptera_Larvae 2 жыл бұрын
The family that refused the money was a boss move, but they were dealing with the Ford Motor Company after all, the same organisation that did a cost-benefit analysis and worked out it was cheaper to pay out victims and their families than to fix a problem with the Ford Pinto, and allow other people to burn to death. Great video as always! The ones that pinpoint sweeping safety changes always stick with me.
@dangerousandy
@dangerousandy 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention the Pinto fiasco myself.
@twistoffate4791
@twistoffate4791 2 жыл бұрын
I have mixed feelings. It was the church's decision to stick with that old bus.
@blue_lancer_es
@blue_lancer_es 2 жыл бұрын
6 people died due the pinto/bobcat.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 жыл бұрын
@@blue_lancer_es No, more like 6-0. At least. And one is too many when it's clearly THEIR fault.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 жыл бұрын
See Unsafe at Any Speed by Ralph Nader and Still Unsafe at Any Speed by Brian Chase. You'll see not much has changed.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
I remembered this disaster vividly. At 14 years old I was on my way back from a camping trip and they announced it over the radio that there had been a fiery bus crash in Kentucky with several fatalities. Years later when I drove for Greyhound. I would drive past the sign outside of Carrollton Kentucky and it said site of the fatal bus crash. In the month of May the family members would leave flowers hanging all over the side.
@kiryuandgodzillagirl
@kiryuandgodzillagirl 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen it driving by and it is heart breaking
@caninecurry5823
@caninecurry5823 2 жыл бұрын
I swear you're another "Just a guy without a mustache" account... is this some kind of AI algorithm or something ?
@Frenchblue8
@Frenchblue8 2 жыл бұрын
@@caninecurry5823 No. I think it's called some people live or work in that area of Kentucky. Whatever drug you're on, I think it's your civic duty to warn people against it
@deletdis6173
@deletdis6173 2 жыл бұрын
@@Frenchblue8 They're saying that they see the guy comment everywhere lol
@karaamundson3964
@karaamundson3964 2 жыл бұрын
My bf & I drove past often as well. 💐
@lauratorres7335
@lauratorres7335 Жыл бұрын
One of my professors in grad school was a Chaplin at the military base, he went with the families to try and id the children. He was telling the story to our class in 2010 and you could see how much it still impacted him. He said there was never an excuse for drunk driving.
@terriatca1
@terriatca1 2 жыл бұрын
The part that got to me was when the drunk drivers friends took away his keys because they were concerned, but gave it back to him when he said he would drive straight home. I know he is completely at fault, but where do his "friends" responsibilities lay?
@yvonnethomas5118
@yvonnethomas5118 Жыл бұрын
Same I was thinking.. they should've never given his keys back.Smh
@phattjohnson
@phattjohnson Жыл бұрын
Complicit to a crime from where I'm standing! Even if they don't get thrown into prison I believe some examples needed to be made so others didn't make similar mistakes!
@raoulcruz4404
@raoulcruz4404 Жыл бұрын
Classmates had to take the keys of a drunk friend many years ago. He was pissed. Threatened bodily harm. He eventually walked home. Two teenagers died near where I live. The guy was drunk. He wanted his girlfriend to ride with him. The sister of the girlfriend tried to keep her from going, to point there was a struggle and she ended up pulling the girl’s coat off. As she slipped out of the coat, she hopped into the car. Just a short time later , the guy and his girlfriend were dead after the car struck a tree.
@user-zs9ux1ru8u
@user-zs9ux1ru8u 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh nothing better than starting the day with a cup of tea and a dose of an insightful tragedy
@adamdiek
@adamdiek 2 жыл бұрын
lol love it
@jonathancarlson6127
@jonathancarlson6127 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid: Cartoons. As an adult: Disaster mini-docs.
@punkybrewstar83
@punkybrewstar83 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently procrastinating going to sleep here lol
@GunnerRDS
@GunnerRDS 2 жыл бұрын
Tea in the morning?!
@anzai7074
@anzai7074 2 жыл бұрын
I’m ending my day haha
@tomjoad3868
@tomjoad3868 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Cincinnati and remember when this happened as a teenager. For years after you could still see the double tire marks on the highway from the bus screeching to a halt. It was a visual reminder that always stuck with me.
@97widerider
@97widerider 2 жыл бұрын
Tom I am from am from Louisville and was 21 when this happened. Unless I missed it, there isn't much of a memorial sign there today either, just a green and white sign stating it was the site of the accident.
@pantherplatform
@pantherplatform 2 жыл бұрын
You should see the pair of skid marks I left after chili night...
@peterf.229
@peterf.229 2 жыл бұрын
I was 10 in 1988, and had just moved from Cincinnati Oh to the suburbs west of Philly . I saw this accident on the news . It was horrible
@Studio23Media
@Studio23Media 2 жыл бұрын
I've driven by that sign dozens of times and never knew the story behind it.
@Studio23Media
@Studio23Media 2 жыл бұрын
@@97widerider Yes, you are correct. I've driven past this spot a few times a year for 20+ years and there's just a small green sign with white lettering. It almost blends right in.
@aba4055
@aba4055 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are such an important reminder for me to never do anything dangerous in the mindset of "it'll probably be fine!"
@guardiane
@guardiane 2 жыл бұрын
This totally reminds me of an incident I could have been a part of...a few years ago, I was driving home late at night. There was virtually nobody on the road and I've driven this route 100 times. I came to a stop light and there was one car in front of me. The light goes green, the car in front starts to go but then suddenly stops. I was about to honk when suddenly another car races through the intersection, through the red light. Had the guy in front of me not noticed that other guy coming, who knows what would've happened. So many things went through my head...what if I was the car in front and just went when the light turned green? What if I was just a few seconds later at that intersection? At the speed that other asshole was going at, I would have been dead for sure. Why do these things happen? What possess people to drive while intoxicated even after knowing how f'n stupid it is? I simply don't get it...
@daniellinehan63
@daniellinehan63 2 жыл бұрын
Always look both ways If the guy behind you honks.....who cares
@kriscampbell2327
@kriscampbell2327 2 жыл бұрын
Similar thing happened to me just a few months ago. 2 cars, mine being one of them, were in 2 parallel left turn lanes waiting for the left turn signal to turn green. It turned green and the car to my right started to go, then stopped. So I hesitated from pulling out into the intersection to turn left. This car zoomed past us, running the red light and turned left in front of us, just barely missing my front left fender. Had I pulled out the red light running car would have slammed into the passenger side of my car. My 72 year old husband was sitting there. This car was going really fast. It was night and rainy. It still makes me sick to my stomach. We stay home most nights. Driving is stressful.
@tezzanoia
@tezzanoia 2 жыл бұрын
@@kriscampbell2327 November 2020, 2 days before my birthday I was out with my partner to get a birthday present for me. On the way back it was dark and raining a lot, so the sight wasn't good at all. We stopped at a t-junction as we wanted to turn left. It looked like the other cars went that direction too and the way this junction was made meant that we had right of way and the other cars had to wait. So my partner started to turn. Then everything went blank for a moment, the world around us crashed. Next thing I knew was that the car was standing in the middle of the street, facing the direction we just came from. The right side of the front of the car was crashed completely, right where the truck had hit us. If my partner had started driving a second or two sooner, I wouldn't be able to type this anymore. From what we've been told it's pretty sure the other driver was too fast for the weather conditions and bad sight, it was literally a white van and we didn't see it coming. Since then, I sometimes get panic or anxiety attacks when in a car with someone, especially when the situation seems unclear and potentially dangerous - while living in an are where people are known for their bad driving behavior. And after all, I've still been incredibly lucky, we both have, as we survived and only had some mild injuries and trauma from it, nothing more
@cronobactersakazakii5133
@cronobactersakazakii5133 2 жыл бұрын
As a biker with no frame, airbags and seatblet to protect me, I learned to trust no traffic lights, no signal, no priorities
@rachelgarcia4301
@rachelgarcia4301 Жыл бұрын
What happens is the drunk isn't in control any more: the alcohol is. (He's responsible, of course.) His judgement is impaired. The wrong is continuing to drink when you KNOW you're driving home, not only getting in the car later.
@PaleHorseShabuShabu
@PaleHorseShabuShabu 2 жыл бұрын
Friends: "No, you're too drunk to drive. We're taking your keys." Drunk: "But I'll drive straight home!" Friends: "Alright, that makes all the difference. We totally trust you and your driving ability now!"
@missclaire8673
@missclaire8673 2 жыл бұрын
Technically they didn't give him the beer. He bought it on his own But his friends were incredibly stupid to still hand him the keys
@sol-sky3947
@sol-sky3947 2 жыл бұрын
@@missclaire8673 u get the idea
@kyliepechler
@kyliepechler 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how difficult the guilt his friends must have felt was to deal with. The act of giving their drunk friend his car keys back, inadvertently resulted in the deaths of 27 people.
@metallicarabbit
@metallicarabbit 2 жыл бұрын
they didn't give him beer for the road
@Callsign_Prophet
@Callsign_Prophet 2 жыл бұрын
Probably lived around the corner and dropped all his skill points into charisma
@oliviaaddams3454
@oliviaaddams3454 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I watched a documentary on this incident. They interviewed a man whose whole family had been on the bus-both of his daughters and his wife was also there as a chaperone. After the crash, he waited impatiently to hear news about the survivors. As the hours passed, and it became more and more likely all his loved ones were dead, he began begging God to spare just one of them. Unfortunately none of his family members survived. Listening to him recall that night sent shivers down my spine. He somehow found the will to go on and eventually found love again with a woman who had also lost a child in the same accident. So many lives were irrevocably changed that night.
@ltraina3353
@ltraina3353 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he still believes in god.
@acetechnical6574
@acetechnical6574 2 жыл бұрын
@@ltraina3353 well sure, why not? I mean it makes perfect sense that an all powerful, all knowing being who is super concerned about what some primitive organisms think of him would not take any steps to save any of the organisms who were there in his name. Letting all these other good christians die horribly is clearly a much better outcome, and we should thank lord jesus god christ for it.
@sempergumby2341
@sempergumby2341 2 жыл бұрын
@@acetechnical6574 indeed must have been His will. They must have lied to their parents or had a gay thought at some point. I tell you what, I would sleep in and spend every Sunday doing whatever the fuck I wanted after that. Church and "God" would be the furthest thing from my mind forevermore.
@0ptomisticprime
@0ptomisticprime 2 жыл бұрын
@@ltraina3353 maybe. It wasn't God that drove drunk. We're given a brain for a reason.
@edward3320
@edward3320 Жыл бұрын
@@ltraina3353 Probably, because no part of Christianity is "If I'm a Christian good things will happen and no tragedy will ever befall me". You can pray but that doesn't mean things will happena how you want them.
@allybecker1006
@allybecker1006 2 жыл бұрын
You should cover the limo accident that happened in Schoharie, NY a few years ago. The court case has recently wrapped up (not the outcome anyone wanted but you know). It definitely feels like something this channel would cover.
@daffers2345
@daffers2345 2 жыл бұрын
He has an email in the description where you can suggest things. Go ahead, he might do it!
@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197
@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197 2 жыл бұрын
Felt bad for the two poor people that were just coming out of the store, they were innocent.
@jeffwoods4406
@jeffwoods4406 2 жыл бұрын
@@daffers2345 yeah definitely email him, he responds to every one (I know from personal experience)
@antiquesewist423
@antiquesewist423 6 ай бұрын
16 years for 27 counts, and only serving 10, was rediculous. Especially when you add the DUI. People who rob banks and don't even harm anyone get like 40 to life
@whoisjohngalt4880
@whoisjohngalt4880 2 ай бұрын
Yes. But you forget, people who rob banks are stealing federally insured FDIC cash. This costs the government money. In case you haven’t noticed….They throw the book at you for depriving the government of their money. Lol.
@orangehoof
@orangehoof 2 жыл бұрын
I applaud Mr. Pearman's bravery. By trying to use the fire extinguisher, he was providing time for the rest of the passengers to exit and maybe realized that he, himself, would probably not survive. It always amazes me how few drunk drivers actually die in all the mayhem they cause. Yet so many innocent people die from their recklessness. If you want to get drunk, do it at home. If you want to have a good time out, limit your drinking and if you are going with some buddies, appoint a "designated driver" to make sure everyone gets home safely.
@straswa
@straswa 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@evil1by1
@evil1by1 2 жыл бұрын
Or call a fucking taxi. Amazes me that people can blow 200 at the bar but suddenly are too broke for a 40 taxi. Goes to show what a drunk thinks about others. Your not even worth 40
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 2 жыл бұрын
@@evil1by1 In many places taxi-drivers will refuse to take a passenger who is extremely drunk for fear that they'd throw up inside their cab, meaning having to return to their base to clean it, which costs them effort & lost fares!
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 2 жыл бұрын
One reason drunk-drivers will often survive is the 'rag-doll' effect, where their muscles are relaxed & are thrown around limply, as opposed to the natural reaction to brace yourself in a collision!
@txmetalhead82xk
@txmetalhead82xk 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is astonishing how he survived. Maybe, he passed out after the impact?
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 2 жыл бұрын
"they took the keys from the drunk driver" Ok so did he steal a car or steal the keys back-- "They gave the keys back to him when he promised to drive home" Those are some real crappy friends
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 2 жыл бұрын
Friends don't let friends drive drunk!
@Z0RDR4CK
@Z0RDR4CK 2 жыл бұрын
they were probably under influence either. and i can tell, you are very small minded then. i won't say it was their fault, but they made it _possible._ very sad story.
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 2 жыл бұрын
@@Z0RDR4CK I don't know man if they called a cab or made an effort to have a designated driver there's a bigger chance this wouldn't have happened. None of my friends ever let any of us drive drunk and if we're gonna drink as a group we always set a designated driver to take us home safely or use an Uber
@janicesullivan8942
@janicesullivan8942 2 жыл бұрын
Those that gave the keys back, should have all been charged as accomplices.
@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197
@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197 2 жыл бұрын
Theyre alright. I mean, guy had to get his car home and buy more booze. What were they supposed to do?
@NotAnAngryLesbian
@NotAnAngryLesbian 2 жыл бұрын
I was stationed at Knox when this happened. Radcliffe is next to Knox Locally, the world stopped. Some soldiers lost their entire family in the crash. People placed black wreaths on the front of their cars and left them there for two years. Horrible.
@geoffcook1446
@geoffcook1446 2 жыл бұрын
I have driven by a marker on -I71, which just reads 'Site of fatal bus crash May 14 1988' but until now, never knew the circumstances. Thank you for this video. May the souls lost that evening find eternal rest, and their family, friends, and survivors find peace.
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 Жыл бұрын
The memory still is searing to this day.
@josiep1547
@josiep1547 2 жыл бұрын
My middle school math teacher was one of the surviving students in this accident, he goes around to the high schools in the area to give talks about drunk driving. It truly seems like it was a horrific experience for him, I couldn’t imagine.
@pkennedy0219
@pkennedy0219 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin William J Nichols Jr died in that bus crash, he went by Billy. I wonder if your math teacher remembers him. What a tragedy.
@josiep1547
@josiep1547 2 жыл бұрын
@@pkennedy0219 My math teacher actually sat one row behind your cousin on the other side of the aisle, I bet he would remember him :)
@pkennedy0219
@pkennedy0219 2 жыл бұрын
@@josiep1547 that’s really cool, if you get a chance to ask about him I would like to know more about what they thought of him. I’m too young to remember much, I just remember he was cool. He was 17 and I was probably like 3-4, I just remember thinking he was a cool guy. He used to play with the young cousins. I remember I was excited to see him at his funeral because I didn’t understand. My parents said I asked “where is billy”.
@sharksport01
@sharksport01 2 жыл бұрын
So sad about Billy, im glad you have good memories of him. And I bet that math teacher has saved many lives with the talks given to students.
@genesisknight9948
@genesisknight9948 Жыл бұрын
@@pkennedy0219 I'm so sorry for your loss
@SpacePirateK
@SpacePirateK 2 жыл бұрын
This one hits close to home, like real close. The people in this wreck were from my hometown. I even had a teacher in middle school who survived the wreck that night and he always used the accident as a way to explain to the students how drunk driving can ruin your life and the lives of others.
@trashman4444
@trashman4444 2 жыл бұрын
While I'm not " from " Radcliff , I did live at Ft. Knox 74-79, and am around the same age as many of the victims. When we heard about this event ( my Dad was stationed in Germany in '88 but still had friends in Radcliff and Muldraugh " it was world shattering to realize that kids I may have met 10 years prior were gone .
@waltershumate5777
@waltershumate5777 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend from wisconson that went to school with some of the children who lost thier fathers, and 1 an uncle from the Edmund Fitzgerald. Losses like those are so tough on the survivors.
@notagarbage6728
@notagarbage6728 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is not drunk driving the problem is drinking when you guys will understand I don't think you will ever . thats why I m extra careful
@SlenderSingerSS
@SlenderSingerSS 2 жыл бұрын
I am from Covington, my Assistant Principle in high school was one of the survivors, I learned alot from him, and learned that quite a few of the kids ended up being bus drivers.
@YokozunaNumber1
@YokozunaNumber1 2 жыл бұрын
I have family in Carrollton, and so I've seen the crash sight countless times. It's always a somber moment when I pass the sign that indicate the exact spot of the crash. 34 years later, the shadow of the tragedy still looms large over Carroll County.
@JorgensZelda
@JorgensZelda 2 жыл бұрын
Safety laws are certainly written in blood. The loss of life required to make these kinds of changes just baffles and saddens me.
@faizalf119
@faizalf119 2 жыл бұрын
At least USA change their law to prevent tragedy. In some countries including mine rule might not be changed even when there's blood involved because our lawmakers are either lazy or morons
@8bitorgy
@8bitorgy 2 жыл бұрын
And some in bribes
@mjustjeanette7026
@mjustjeanette7026 2 жыл бұрын
And sadly even accidents that could easily have been anticipated still won't cause changes until blood is spilled.
@Bandit69ply
@Bandit69ply 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that! It certainly did baffle me also. It disgusts me really to be honest!
@vintagedot8350
@vintagedot8350 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna sound weird but do you watch Internet Today? They said that exact statement in a video recently
@RoseGma
@RoseGma 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a morbid person, just very curious and I enjoy learning about historical events. This is one I remember. Such an unnecessary tragedy. Thanks for sharing this so it can remind us all to watch out for the other guy when you are driving and to NEVER drink and drive!
@vinawaldren6888
@vinawaldren6888 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, from Ohio, I remember this too.
@Unownshipper
@Unownshipper 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's macabre to learn about these minor and tragic incidents. In fact, I think it speaks well of you to want to learn of these events so the dead are not forgotten. Plus, this series makes one appreciate life more, I feel.
@skygalvan1880
@skygalvan1880 2 жыл бұрын
Read the definition
@CoasterMan13Official
@CoasterMan13Official 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unownshipper it does. Life is short, but you gotta make the best of it.
@Sashazur
@Sashazur 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s normal human nature to be interested in disasters, it’s an instinct to learn from mishaps to try to avoid future disaster. So you don’t necessarily have to be a creepy weirdo to rubberneck at an accident etc.
@texasbluegrass567
@texasbluegrass567 2 жыл бұрын
This happened where I grew up. I remember this like it was yesterday. I know people who handled the crash. They never got over it. The seats were so flammable that the children and the seats became one solid mass. They had to take the bus to the local national guard to separate the children from the bus. Such a horrific accident. The guy that hit the bus is out now. Apparently everyone loves him and swears he has lived through hell and is truly sorry. I hope he no longer drinks. 😔
@amberkat8147
@amberkat8147 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't know how anyone could cope with that kind of trauma without drinking. In his shoes I might hope to never again be clear-headed enough to be able to clearly remember what I did. But I hope he never drinks and drives again. How hard is it to do your drinking at home when you aren't planning to go anywhere?
@drexsamson3762
@drexsamson3762 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Kentucky, and this story is still told every year to public school students across the state. I even got to meet a couple of the survivors when they came to speak at my school, what a terrible ordeal they had to live through Don’t drink and drive.
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 Жыл бұрын
I believe one of the survivors, or a parent of one killed, ended up becoming the national president of MADD as well.
@TileGuyJesse
@TileGuyJesse 2 жыл бұрын
John Hammon sacrificed his life fighting the fire in the front of the bus to buy time for those in the rear of the bus to hopefully get out, including his daughter. What a hero.
@davidcox3076
@davidcox3076 2 жыл бұрын
He jumped to action and did the best he could. But ultimately the circumstances were all against him.
@wiretamer5710
@wiretamer5710 10 ай бұрын
Its true, but in all fairness, the fire didn't give him the time to make such a decision. He was caught in a fireball. This was a worst case scenario. Despite what the movies show us, fuel takes on vehicles are very unlikely to cause a major fire as a result of a collision. This a very unusual and tragic event, that has almost disappeared in recent decades because of modern fuel tank designs. Tanks today are designed to brake loose on impact and get squashed, rather than burst open.
@joela8839
@joela8839 2 жыл бұрын
The many crush videos on FH and the Astroworld disaster sadly reminds us what happens when we don't learn from others mistakes
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 2 жыл бұрын
I would love it if someone added up all the crushing disaster deaths and showed what could have helped all in one report. Seems there always is a new story happening even after previous disasters where steps have been taken to "prevent such a tragedy ever happening again."
@LMB222
@LMB222 2 жыл бұрын
English. Do you speak it?
@joela8839
@joela8839 2 жыл бұрын
@@LMB222 do you need it simplified? No shame in it
@danw2112
@danw2112 2 жыл бұрын
Plus the American football player who drove drunk and killed that young woman in Las Vegas last week.
@saraz5635
@saraz5635 2 жыл бұрын
@Joby Fluorine on that subject, too*
@lisablais7913
@lisablais7913 2 жыл бұрын
Just reading through the comments and I can't believe how many people have stories of knowing survivors or of growing up in the area. It's amazing how many were affected.
@thecarolinianrailfan8339
@thecarolinianrailfan8339 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually drove past the exact location where that accident took place on I-71 while on vacation in Kentucky and Ohio in 2019 and even followed a route similar to the one the bus took, but heading from Louisville, KY to a Great Wolf Lodge in Mason, OH located right next to King’s Island. I hadn’t even heard about this incident until I watched this video. This incident showed some of the consequences of drunk driving - it can put your life, and possibly the lives of several others, in extreme danger. RIP to all the victims who died in that horrific crash.
@alanbryant8457
@alanbryant8457 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this. I can truly say "I understand the survivors pain." 5 years earlier 1983. On 75 south bound Ky a drunk drivers trailer came off and crossed center median hitting us head on. I was 9yrs old and my older sister died in front of me. Sometimes I go to church. But 1988 with all the children I saw on the news. I got on my knees to pray for the kids. It's not easy to get through at their age.
@leeriches8841
@leeriches8841 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry that happened to your family. Hope you're doing well these days, it can't have been easy to process seeing something like that. Take care
@megatuanis
@megatuanis 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry for your loss and for the entire experience you've endured.
@Dat-Mudkip
@Dat-Mudkip 2 жыл бұрын
No disrespect intended, but how does the trailer coming off relate to the driver being drunk? Did he swerve so violently it came undone, or was he wasted when he attached it?
@alanbryant8457
@alanbryant8457 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dat-Mudkip Your question is understandable. I respect that. He did time. Trailer safety chains wasn't hooked up. Trailers running lights and brake lights wasn't hooked up. Plus he hit other cars in northbound lane.
@Dat-Mudkip
@Dat-Mudkip 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanbryant8457 Good grief...
@andreamarksberry345
@andreamarksberry345 2 жыл бұрын
My ex was on his way home from work and stopped to try and help people escape the bus before 1st responders arrived. He is scarred from what he witnessed to this day and very rarely speaks of it. He lives in Carrollton, worked at NAS for years and knew Larry Mahoney. He hates to be reminded of it. I can only imagine how terrible it was. So sad.
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 2 жыл бұрын
Please thank him for his efforts!!!
@fumanpoo4725
@fumanpoo4725 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Please let him know even people he will never know appreciate him trying.
@kimberlyokeeffe5360
@kimberlyokeeffe5360 6 ай бұрын
This accident not only changed the requirements for school buses in KY but across the country. I was a school bus driver in MA and the next year ALL of our gas buses were replaced by diesel's. I am also old enough to have witness the changes that this kind of accident does. Unfortunately, the pattern I see is that it takes this kind of tragedy to make most of the safety changes we now take for granted from our personal and commercial vehicles to impaired operating laws.
@NoraDollbaby
@NoraDollbaby 2 жыл бұрын
I live in KY and have driven past this spot many times. My mom told me the story and I just remember being horrified even as a child. It is a story EVERYONE in the area knows. Completely tragic. Not sure if this is true, but my mom said the drunk driver was an alcoholic after his daughter died of a terminal illness. I felt bad for everyone involved in this incident.
@joesjunkyard935
@joesjunkyard935 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives really close to the accident, my county has a 98% conviction rate for drunk drivers
@valeriataylor8337
@valeriataylor8337 2 жыл бұрын
Ford accepted to pay 40mi for the victims' families but refused to pay 1$ and build safer buses. It would cost tem much more, obviously. Companies are not concerned about your safety if it will not mean revenues.
@hengineer
@hengineer 2 жыл бұрын
No, I think it was more the fact that finding and retrofitting older busses would have been nigh impossible because of the second hand nature of used busses. Good luck finding them all.
@ddichny
@ddichny 2 жыл бұрын
They did build safer buses. What they declined to do was do recalls on vast numbers of old buses of numerous model years, styles, and designs and do massive rebuilds on them all that probably would have cost more then providing new buses. It's not easy to do major retrofits on old vehicles, and having to figure out how to do it on probably 50+ different models would be an immense undertaking of its own, as each model would be a different case and require different parts, mechanic training, etc. etc., not to mention the problem of trying to track down the current owners of tens of thousands of old vehicles that have likely changed hands over and over again, in order to notify them about the recall and then try to entice them to hand over their vehicle for multiple weeks while the retrofits take place. It's really just not feasible even aside from the massive cost.
@user-re4jf2sb4q
@user-re4jf2sb4q 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with these buses, How old was this particular one when the crash happened?
@blue_lancer_es
@blue_lancer_es 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-re4jf2sb4q 1977.
@kyleh3615
@kyleh3615 2 жыл бұрын
Usually I'm against major companies 8n general, but to post a recall AND find all the buses would be very difficult. It wouldn't be hard to actually do the retro fit
@latebloomerabroad
@latebloomerabroad 6 ай бұрын
This is heartbreaking. I didn't know the details this accident before today, but I am friends with the parents of one of the children who was killed. There isn't a day that goes by that they are not reminded of their daughter. Although they have gone on to live their lives, this is a shadow that never leaves.
@xenotbbbeats7209
@xenotbbbeats7209 2 жыл бұрын
I was briefly a school bus driver. Luckily, I heard this story the first time, after I changed jobs. The worst tragedies are the ones involving children.
@foxracing8973
@foxracing8973 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid in the 90s in the US, I remember my school bus having the same windows that you described. They had 2 small tab things you had to push in towards the middle with both hands. As a kid it took all the strength you had to get them open, if you were even strong enough in the first place to do it, which a lot of kids weren't at that age. They would constantly get stuck or one of the tab things would break and you couldn't even open them..
@con6951
@con6951 2 жыл бұрын
God that’s terrible
@daffers2345
@daffers2345 2 жыл бұрын
I hated those windows. My sibs and I went to private school up through 3rd grade, and the bus ride home was nearly two hours with a bus change at the high school. I was always too small and weak to open the windows myself, so I roasted a lot on those buses. I can't imagine what would have happened if there was a fire, especially on those older buses they used back in the day.
@andrewware8292
@andrewware8292 2 жыл бұрын
Do they not still use those? How are they now?
@briannem.6787
@briannem.6787 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewware8292 In most countries, school buses are normal city buses with the top part of the window being hinged inwards by 45 degrees to let air in and stop arms being stuck out. In America, I imagine they have some one-handed latch and an oiled metal track to let the window slide easily instead of jamming (how innovative... a metal track!) Those American school buses are scary. Those things scream "the lowest-cost bidder built this"! Why don't they buy normal buses but with more seats and less standing room, like school buses in Australia? When the school run isn't being done, they can be used for other purposes like excursions by schools and aged care facilities, tourism, spare buses to run bus routes, etc.
@mommyjohnson3306
@mommyjohnson3306 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in my HS days, '09-'12 they had these same types of windows
@cerealtiller
@cerealtiller 2 жыл бұрын
Petrol can be Ignited by a single Spark...Diesel needs high temperature as well to set it alight...that is why Diesel Boats are so popular.
@donbrashsux
@donbrashsux 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah crazy having petrol engines in Buses Diesel engines are the only way to go in every aspect ..sad
@ethribin4188
@ethribin4188 2 жыл бұрын
@@donbrashsux the problem with diesel is its smoke. Unlicke gasoline, whichs dangerous materials can easily be filtered by catalysts, diesel greats microdust. It is extreemly hard to filter, and settles in your lungs permanently if breathed in. Very unhealthy. Also, diesel is more expensive as it needs more steps to produce. Gasoline and Diesel both have their place But both also have their downsides
@andrewthomson
@andrewthomson 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethribin4188 diesel is a by-product of gasoline production
@natefessler3961
@natefessler3961 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethribin4188 Couple of things: 1) Most diesel engines produced since 2001 have been fitted with catalytic converters. 2) Diesel is pulled from distillation columns at a lower level than gasoline, requiring LESS energy and time to produce. Oh, and @Peter Wootton, pressure rather than temperature is the significant factor in diesel ignition. You can hold an open flame right on a pool of diesel and it won't ignite.
@thenerdsentertainmentchann7922
@thenerdsentertainmentchann7922 2 жыл бұрын
whay you expect from a compagny that have given money for is birthay to adolf hitler ?
@76captaint
@76captaint 2 жыл бұрын
That bus was originally owned/operated by Meade County Schools in Brandenburg, KY. I think that it was a 1977 model. When I was in elementary school there that bus was replaced on the mainline fleet by a brand new bus I think in 1986. This one became a back-up. When the new busses were used for school trips such as band trips, ball games, or the like, the back-up busses were used in their place. This bus was number 75. My first bus there was bus number 73 which was identical. The same year that this bus was replaced my bus was replaced with a brand new bus as well, number 116. Shortly after we got the new bus it was used several times for school trips and I actually rode this bus, number 75, a couple of times as a back-up before it was sold to the church in Radcliff, KY. That has always been eerie to think about. I remember all of the nearly immediate changes to the existing and new busses with additional escape windows and roof hatches added.
@Mike_Jones281
@Mike_Jones281 2 жыл бұрын
In my hometown, a bus was hit by a car and fell off an overpass, killing many of the high-school students inside. This is what reminds me of that incident. It was a horrible tragedy that still affects the community to this day. I drive over the overpass section where they died on my way to my office.
@cadespencer6320
@cadespencer6320 Жыл бұрын
Send me a link please
@carolsummers8734
@carolsummers8734 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the bus driver who stopped on train tracks with a bus full of kids. A train hit the bus minutes later. This was in a town near Chicago.
@moonfox8061
@moonfox8061 2 жыл бұрын
A survivor of the accident actually paid my school a visit once a few years ago. It was quite sad and informative when you hear about it from a first hand account.
@XvlerLorenzo
@XvlerLorenzo 2 жыл бұрын
I remember one time on the anniversary of this, all the survivors got together on a bus similar to the one in the accident and sat where they were seated at the time of the accident to remember the victims.
@leeriches8841
@leeriches8841 2 жыл бұрын
@@XvlerLorenzo god, that's so sad 😔
@keithseadler2506
@keithseadler2506 2 жыл бұрын
We get to let it fade into the background, can you imagine the pain they feel daily
@vespurrs
@vespurrs 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting on my school bus somewhere outside Cincinnati, on layover while I wait to pick up my third route for the morning. This one hits very close to home, being born and raised in this area. I was a senior in high school when this happened, and I remember everyone looking and feeling like a zombie the next day, not quite able to believe what happened. It was a shocking and devastating loss, but one I also haven't thought about in a long time. Now as I sit here on my bus with all its safety features and multiple emergency exits, I can only hope that no one experiences anything like that ever again.
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 2 жыл бұрын
I got to know every one of my bus drivers through the years. Thanks for all you do!
@vespurrs
@vespurrs 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealBradMiller I did the same! I think they were a greater influence on me than they realized. Thank you so much for your kind words - they made my day! :)
@brandycarter9829
@brandycarter9829 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a child in elementary school, the bus driver that drove my route home from school was an older man, in his 60s probably, who always gave me a piece of candy, (Atomic Fireballs, to be exact) during the ride home. He always had a bag of them under his seat. He was a friendly & caring man, and I always liked to sit right behind him. My home was the bus’s last stop, I grew up in the country and was literally the last kid off the school bus. If I dozed off, he would wake me up and tell me I was home. This would’ve been in the early to mid 90’s, and now as an adult that man & his Atomic Fireballs remain a fond memory. I do not know that man’s name, but his kindness has stuck with me my entire life ❤️
@articat568
@articat568 2 жыл бұрын
Being from Cincinnati I can only say, this story has been the one that they use to prevent drunk driving in kids since I can remember, Always stuck with me
@rogerstoodley7113
@rogerstoodley7113 2 жыл бұрын
I am a resident of the city of St. John's Newfoundland Canada. Late in the afternoon of 8 July 1892, a small fire broke out in a St. John's stable after a lit pipe or match fell into a bundle of hay. Although containable at first, the flames quickly spread due to dry weather conditions, a disorganized fire department, and poor planning on the part of city officials. Within hours, the fire had destroyed almost all of St. John's, leaving 11,000 people homeless and causing $13 million in property damage. I would love to see your retrospective on this historical event in my home town. Love the channel watching since 2019...fantastic detail..
@hallows7568
@hallows7568 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has been in the area several times, I heard many things about this story. Along with it, I could've never been born as a result. Both of my parents had the opportunity to be on the trip, but because of the circumstance of strict parents (my grandparents) , they hadn't ended up going. It really is interesting how much this ended up changing how people treated busses and the trips after.
@escapedcops08
@escapedcops08 2 жыл бұрын
Your parents are brother and sister? That makes sense given the locals in the area.
@hallows7568
@hallows7568 2 жыл бұрын
@@escapedcops08 lmao no. They both just had parents that were strict
@nickkerr5714
@nickkerr5714 2 жыл бұрын
Did they conceive you on this day?
@hallows7568
@hallows7568 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickkerr5714 nop
@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470
@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470 2 жыл бұрын
@@escapedcops08 Quit with the disrespectful stupidity.
@animeanakin2304
@animeanakin2304 2 жыл бұрын
My middle school girlfriend knew a lot of those kids. I'll never forget seeing her in tears at school the next morning. I grew up in Louisville, KY and Kings Island was a place we visited often. It should be noted that there is a sign and memorial on the interstate where the crash occured.
@kittikat4124
@kittikat4124 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I see it every time I head to Ohio, and every time my heart sinks just a bit for the lives never lived
@restless4400
@restless4400 2 жыл бұрын
Yes whenever I pass this sign my heart breaks for the driver and these children.
@why110
@why110 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you have a girlfriend in middle school
@animeanakin2304
@animeanakin2304 2 жыл бұрын
@@why110 I was also in middle school.
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this pretty well since I had relatives in Carrollton, and KI was my “home park”. Plus I had gone to school for years on that exact model Ford bus. Carrollton was/is a very small town, so everybody knew someone affected if they were not personally affected (first responders, witnesses, relatives of people in Radcliff). That drunk POS was the most reviled villain in KY, OH, IN. It was so upsetting and people were so angry. Had it been a century earlier, he would have been lynched on the spot. The parole after 10 years made big regional news.
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 2 жыл бұрын
Even 50 years earlier he might have been lynched.
@movieholic-92
@movieholic-92 Жыл бұрын
Have you covered the 2018 Humboldt Broncos bus crash? It happened in Canada, I believe, but we heard about it in the States. Keep up the great work, man!
@gwendolyn6408
@gwendolyn6408 2 жыл бұрын
16 years? That’s not even a year per life he took. And he only served 10 of that. That’s so infuriating.
@ljay2823
@ljay2823 2 жыл бұрын
Yet, the norm.
@Lucivius27
@Lucivius27 2 жыл бұрын
Norm for white guys.
@nicholasschroeder3678
@nicholasschroeder3678 2 жыл бұрын
It's disgusting. The guy even had a trail: he tried to get off.
@stevphiericardo2790
@stevphiericardo2790 2 жыл бұрын
I respect that one family refused the compensation, their beloved kid wont comeback to life with the money they'd get. Rip to their kid and other dead victims
@nickkerr5714
@nickkerr5714 2 жыл бұрын
I’d feel guilty possessing anything bought from the money. Most probably would accept the money, and I dont blame them, but I couldn’t stand accepting money as compensation for a loved ones life. I think I’d burn it or bury it somewhere I wouldnt remember before I used it to buy stuff for myself Edit: I think I would take it from the responsible party though, make them feel the repercussions albeit minor in comparison
@leeriches8841
@leeriches8841 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickkerr5714 my family is getting compensation money for the murders of our relatives, my mother is spending her share to travel and experience things they never got the chance to do. An aunt is giving her share to a relevant charity. I don't know what I'm going to do with mine but I'm definitely not going to just waste it.
@megatuanis
@megatuanis 2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with accepting and spending money acquired from a settlement after a relative's death. Feeling guilt, or even worse, making others feel guilty for enjoying that money, that's what's wrong. Refusing compensation doesn't automatically make someone more noble than the ones who accept it.
@stevphiericardo2790
@stevphiericardo2790 2 жыл бұрын
@@megatuanis Different sentimental values, I'd get haunted if I bought things with the thoughts that I got it from my own kid's blood and especially live.. Not even worth, no matter how poor my family is... not even
@megatuanis
@megatuanis 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevphiericardo2790 Donate it to a shelter or nursing home, start a non-profit, create a charitable organization, build a house for a homeless family, etc. All of these are wonderful ways to honor someone's memory. Zero guilt.
@James-ft4bu
@James-ft4bu 2 жыл бұрын
Have not heard this one before, good find. Kings Island is crazy, from Lion attacks to groups being electrocuted to death in 2 feet of water due to an exposed wire, rollercoaster ejections, fires, and who knows what. I lived near as a child and rode the closed beast 2 many a time.
@b-chroniumproductions3177
@b-chroniumproductions3177 2 жыл бұрын
But The Beast isn't closed...?
@James-ft4bu
@James-ft4bu 2 жыл бұрын
@@b-chroniumproductions3177 son of beast is still running? Havent been to Kings island for a long time but was sure it had been closed.
@b-chroniumproductions3177
@b-chroniumproductions3177 2 жыл бұрын
@@James-ft4bu son of beast is gone but the original Beast is still running
@stephaniebarrett830
@stephaniebarrett830 Жыл бұрын
Disney is worse. However I will say with machines of that magnitude and all the people it's easy for things to go awry. I live in Ohio and go to ki every year never had a problem or witnessed a problem. Plus ki is not to blame for this
@randomoldguy3967
@randomoldguy3967 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this incident clearly. It was the real turning point in the war on drunk driving. It’s also the reason why there are several escape windows and hatches on buses now.
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 Жыл бұрын
Kentucky after this mandated nine emergency exits on school buses and as such buses are built to that standard.
@kittikat4124
@kittikat4124 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this! I grew up in Kentucky and we had a survivor of this accident talk to us our senior year about the dangers of drunk driving. The biggest thing I remember is him describing watching the one up front burst into flames and once he was out, he looked back into the bus and saw his friends lifeless and burning in a mass of blackness. He also said he blames the friend who gave the guy his keys equal to the amount he blames the driver himself. Theres a documentary on this accident if anyone is interested in hearing more
@prussiasaurusrex2707
@prussiasaurusrex2707 Жыл бұрын
Also from Kentucky, same thing happened at our school. The week leading up to prom had a huge focus on drunk driving, and I remember this incident being one of the ones they mentioned. They do it every year at my old high school.
@whisperingleaves4157
@whisperingleaves4157 2 жыл бұрын
As a commercial bus driver of 15+ years I’ve driven all types of buses including school buses and never thought much about how the many safety features came to exist. This gives me a greater appreciation for the lost lives, legal battles, and carefully analysis that has gone into developing the life saving features of modern buses.
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 2 жыл бұрын
This is likely the main reason I won’t drive a gasoline bus. I used to drive the oldest buses in the fleet, since they were going to gasoline, due to emissions.
@whisperingleaves4157
@whisperingleaves4157 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaysmith1408 That’s interesting, I’ve never even seen a gasoline bus! All the ones here in Ontario are diesel or diesel electric.
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 2 жыл бұрын
@@whisperingleaves4157 yep, Blue bird is going back to Gasoline, i forget whether they’re using the Ford Triton (probably the Godzilla now) or the GM Vortac. Both are available for conversion to gas, but many are being run on gasoline. Cheaper mechanics, no emissions outside of the cats. My old city had university shuttles run with Blue Bird All Americans with the ISL diesel in the rear, but the contract was under cut by the cab company, who runs it with Ford F650 cutaways with the Triton (propane powered to match the cabs I think). With exception of some older buses in the hospital park and ride system, which are Econoline Diesels (a few still gasoline) some Chevrolet Kodiaks (Duramax) and my absolute favourite, the International DuraStar with the MaxxNoise, they are Ford F450’s with the CNG Triton (the largest and newest buses are Freightliner M2’s, came around after I left, I assume it’s just a diesel ISB).
@whisperingleaves4157
@whisperingleaves4157 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaysmith1408 Terrified of gasoline… ⛽️
@joekursch973
@joekursch973 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this and helping remember the event and those hurt by it. My cousin was one of the 27 who died in this disaster. It left a huge hole in our family, as I'm sure it did for so many others.
@B.H.56
@B.H.56 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I was on a school bus was in the 1970's. I remember the driver telling us about "kick-out" windows for emergency escapes. Wasn't that a standard feature?
@dr.archaeopteryx5512
@dr.archaeopteryx5512 2 жыл бұрын
I was sad about all the children already when the video began, but seeing the survivor look relatively happy kinda made me feel a bit less bad. I hope he and his co-survivors are at least living their best lives now.
@kehberlin
@kehberlin 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as you put up the date, I knew what was coming. As a 10-year-old Kentuckian at the time, I vividly remember overhearing my aunt telling my mom what had happened and being horrified learning how those kids died. The buses changed after that, and I always associate the new exits with this horrible tragedy.
@v-town1980
@v-town1980 2 жыл бұрын
The title of the video didn't give you a clue?
@newbienoah9461
@newbienoah9461 2 жыл бұрын
@@v-town1980 Well maybe they only knew the date and not the title of the incident?
@leeriches8841
@leeriches8841 2 жыл бұрын
@@v-town1980 no need to act smart here
@mike6206
@mike6206 2 жыл бұрын
This one hits me the closest outside of the area because at the time, my parents contracted and owned school buses for the local PA school district. We had one pre-77 (bus built before the 1977 rule changes on school bus safety designs) school bus. A 1976 Chevy/Carpenter school bus. It was still a very nice solid bus and it was a spare at the time. Dad really debated on keeping it one more year since it was still mechanically sound, but he then went ahead and traded it a newer one. The juice of keeping it was not worth the squeeze. Years later, we went to our PA School Bus Association's convention where KY State Tpr. Sonny Cease gave a presentation on the accident investigation. It left me with unforgettable memories. One example, the pickup driver who was already drunk, picked up a case of beer from the local store before getting on I-71, as was mentioned in the video. After the wreck, at the start of the investigation, Tpr Cease found the remaining case of beer, plus cans half full. The driver would crack one open, drink it half way, then cracked open another, which he did intil the crash. Afterwards when Tpr Cease investigated at the scene, he found the remaining 1/2 to 3/4 full case WAS STILL ICE COLD.
@davejones9818
@davejones9818 10 ай бұрын
Very concise and well spoken narration. It is good to listen to someone who did not murder the English language.
@gungirlftw
@gungirlftw 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a school bus driver and when I was going through my training they talked alot about this accident due to how many safety standards it brought into effect. Also on most buses the fuel tank now sits between the frame rails down the length of the bus so it can't be punctured by a suspension spring like it did in this one. And while the seats are improved they will still completely burn in roughly 2 mins. Thats why bus fire drills have to be done so quick, you have to get everyone off in under 2 mins. Not to mention the seats will release toxic fumes when they burn due to the fireproofing.
@equarg
@equarg 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. That’s why “fire resistant” not fire proof materials are used in most (like commercial) aircraft. At high altitudes, the fireproofing chemicals can evaporate into toxic fumes in low PSI environments. “Fire resistant” means it can resist flames and ignition for a certain time in most cases.
@daniellebuehner8441
@daniellebuehner8441 2 жыл бұрын
I too drove school buses years ago and I remember hearing about this and also in our class room training we talked and viewed this video.of the crash.. we were taught to see farther ahead down the road to help prevent accidents like this from happening. I was sadden about the kids who died in that crash and I always put my kids first.. Driving a bus when its dark outside is dangerous if your not paying attention.. I always had a rule for my kids keep the noise level to a class room level or they wont get the music from the radio most of the time my kids were well behaved. and yet we practice our safety drills at least once a month and I would send letters to the parents letting them know of the day and also that they will be a few minutes late getting home. and in fact I had 4 kids in wheel chairs so my bus aide would help me getting wheel chair kids off the bus while we had a designated older student who shows good responsibility skills to watch the others close by to where we can see the kids.. .. yes I see newer buses are coming out with not just one roof hatch but 2 or 3 depending on size of the bus and 2 or 3 window exits on each side. our drills would practice opening and shutting of these but we did our exit out both front and rear exits. I hope only that kids in the future will be kept even safer then kids of yesterday.
@communistpootisbirb
@communistpootisbirb 2 жыл бұрын
" the seats will release toxic fumes when they burn due to the fireproofing" Ironic
@forgenorman3025
@forgenorman3025 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniellebuehner8441 I was born in 84 and was in kindergarten in 89-90. I still remember doing a couple of fire drills even at that young age, never thought twice about it coming about from this tragedy. Thing is it wasn't sustained, could have just been my school system but after I think second grade we didn't have any more. Thank you for the care you show your kids, too many bus drivers didn't seem to care.
@daniellebuehner8441
@daniellebuehner8441 2 жыл бұрын
@@communistpootisbirb actually they are coming with new fabrics and materials that are flame resistance but without the toxic chemical.. its better on a 2022 school than a 2002 school bus I remember the bus I rode to school and back had only one emergency exit the rear.. and also the service door and the windows were stationary no side exits or roof hatches and non flame resistance matierials on our seats.. of course in our district there were very few accidents involving a school how they do happen we had 2 or 3 in a 20 year span.. the first one I can remember when a cement truck was turning into the cement plant and slid on ice into a passing school bus and took out the driver's side fender and tire, then the next one was when a young girl went to stop behind the school bus with lights on also on ice slid into the back of the bus under the rear bumper, totalled her car out but not the bus but sadly if a school bus recieve over x amount of dollars in damage it was taken out of service, then. and last accident I can recall when our bus driver was approaching to a stop he had also slid into the ditch causing damage to the right front including service door. it too totalled the bus as it hit a tree and nearly tip over on its side. thankfully the tree kept us from flipping over .. but the bus was damaged to beyond repair.
@stacysams9043
@stacysams9043 2 жыл бұрын
We drive by the memorial all the time. Everyone around here remembers it vividly. So awful.
@hannibalbarca6308
@hannibalbarca6308 2 жыл бұрын
Friends: 'ok, promise to go straight home and not stop for more booze??' Super drunk alcoholic guy: 'i promise' Friends: ' ok heres your keys'
@robertgeorgewerner
@robertgeorgewerner 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how you try to look for good and hope in these horrible tragedies. I also appreciate when you point out that they're just isn't much that you can be positive about in one of these horrible stories. Thanks again for these wonderful humane characterizations of these tragedies makes me think and often makes me hopeful.
@TheBlackScatPack
@TheBlackScatPack 2 жыл бұрын
When I was younger traveling on I-71 I would always see that sign when I was younger. This happened less than a month before I was born. It’s gut wrenching to actually hear the story of how it happened
@John-1984
@John-1984 2 жыл бұрын
All the times I went to King's Island as a kid, I'm thankful I survived. Strange coincidence, but I just drove by the crash site yesterday coming back from Louisville, KY to Columbus, OH.
@sarahewson3607
@sarahewson3607 2 жыл бұрын
I live in central Florida, an hour from Disney World. I remember driving on the interstate once and seeing a car accident, sheets covering the bodies strewn on the side of the road, and Disney balloons inside the car. It’s heartbreaking. A friend of a friend had a similar situation. They were driving to spend a weekend at Disney in celebration of their son’s seventh birthday. A truck going the opposite direction blew a tire and lost control, slamming into the family’s van. The only person injured, fatally, was the birthday boy. Accidents are bad enough, but when you think of the joy of the trip they were on, it’s almost too much.
@bagaboiebailey
@bagaboiebailey 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like a very safe park, it's just that Fascinating Horror has covered all 5 incidents across 3 videos; this was no action park, and something tells me he lives somewhere in Ohio considering the centralization of his coverage being centered in and around that state.
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 2 жыл бұрын
Each year Leibert(Big manufacturing company in Ironton) took the employees to KI, and each year my grandma would say the same thing "I'll be damned, this is the last time, it's too hot!" Yet she'd go next year, and the next. I can't believe I rode Son of Beast so many times. Now you couldn't pay me to ride it, and I think it's gone anyways. Lol
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 2 жыл бұрын
It makes you wonder how many future lives were saved by those amendments to current and future busses, that happened as a result of this tragedy. Hopefully some good came of this terrible tragedy.
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 2 жыл бұрын
Safety regulations are written in blood, always have been, always will be.
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 2 жыл бұрын
@@marvindebot3264 very true. As improvements since the likes of the Clapham rail crash have shown.
@Berchol
@Berchol 2 жыл бұрын
Even before the end of the video I thought “if at least the fuel tank had diesel instead of gasoline”… glad to know it was adopted later on.
@kimberlybeshears4785
@kimberlybeshears4785 2 жыл бұрын
This was so preventable, but holding onto anger would destroy those who lost someone in the fire. It was heartbreaking. Ford should be ashamed of themselves.
@williamstamper442
@williamstamper442 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this happened I saw it in national tv. Every time I pass thru that area I pay attention to the little road sign "site of fatal bus crash" and say a little prayer. Edit : also I believe this accident made way for the required strobe lights you see on top of school busses all over the country, after this incident.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 жыл бұрын
I remember "stiff and difficult to open" windows. I also remember a VERY noxious vinyl smell that probably was extremely toxic. Horrible, burnt rubber smell. I can only imagine having to WORK in the factory that made the seats. I once smelled a burnt speaker (a short, not a fire) and it smelled similar. Much like burnt bodies, not an odor you forget. It didn't look at all safe, even to a dumb kid like me.
@jeffreyskoritowski4114
@jeffreyskoritowski4114 2 жыл бұрын
Do you remember feeling the steel frames around the seats?
@plumdutchess
@plumdutchess 2 жыл бұрын
"We're taking your keys, because you're in no state to drive! Oh, you're driving straight home? Allrighty, then. Here you go!" The driver is 100% at fault, but this could have been prevented if his friends had stuck with their first decision.
@louisasmiles
@louisasmiles 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried arguing with a drunk? It's awful. No ex uses but it's awful.
@snapcutter9596
@snapcutter9596 2 жыл бұрын
PlumDutchess, So true. True friends don't let friends drive drunk. Sorry, your comment, struck a nerve I purposely keep raw. I was never so humbled. A long while back. Attending a funeral of a Friend. Who, when he left this world. Took a Wife and her child. In a horrific senseless head on collision. Open casket. Hands crossed and a smile I'll never forget on his face. There were a a lot of folks there in the Sanctuary. People standing up and talking about all the crazy times they had had drinking together. I thank God I didn't have an opportunity to share an experience I had in mind. And make myself a fool. A gentleman walked up the isle to the casket and glared at him with such emotion. It's still vivid in my memory. Turns and addressed everyone. After putting a picture of he and his family on the casket. And began to talk about the Suicide Counciling he was receiving. Having everything he Lived for taken from him. And putting the blame squarely on us. Laughing and going on about the times being blasted together. Your not true friends for not helping this man into counseling. If you had. I would still have my family. He walked out, and the Pastor concluded the funeral. He had EVERY RIGHT to admonishe us. And Im thankful I still feel the shame. I felt that day, just sharing this. I only associated with the friend for a year or three or four. I was young and impressionable. My first apartment and all. The start of my being on my own. I'm thankful for the example of what Not to become. I knew, I knew he had a serious problem. And disasoseated myself. And went on with a responsible life. I should have at least tryed. Alcoholism is such a cruel disease. It not only effects the person but everyone associated. There is help available. If anyone knows anyone who needs it... I know that Father. Still has his Wife and Daughter with him. Always in his heart. So many years later. I'm sharing this experience for Them. That Father's very words. True friends don't let friends drink and drive.
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 2 жыл бұрын
Over our friendship and my dead body would they get those keys back.
@Duvmasta
@Duvmasta 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrZoolook so he was a piece of shit then?
@Duvmasta
@Duvmasta 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrZoolook why is he by that virtue?
@ellebelle6410
@ellebelle6410 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends were at King's Island that very day. We decided to leave before the park closed, and our route home was the exact one of this tragic accident. I've always been grateful that we ended up being just in front of the accident as he could have struck our car, or we could have been held up for hours in the long stretch of traffic behind it.
@pamelaleigh4225
@pamelaleigh4225 9 ай бұрын
How Inconvenient that would have been
@timothyclark-sl4il
@timothyclark-sl4il Жыл бұрын
That's why giant inflatable pencils aren't allowed on the bus anymore.
@PokingAngel
@PokingAngel 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say, your channel as really given me the insight to think critically of recent tragedies. Such as Astroworld. I know a lot of people are solely blaming the singer but as more and more reports come out, it's clear there were lots of parties to blame and they should all be held accountable. It'll be interesting to see over the coming months how that will be handled. The victims deserve justice.
@kittikat4124
@kittikat4124 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest blame should be with Live Nation for severely understaffing the event, in my opinion. Yes Travis Scott holds some blame, especially since he has a history of inciting violence and disrespect in his crowds, but the organizer is the biggest. The second people rushed the gates is the second the event should have been paused until they could get more personnel and better knew the number of people they were dealing with in and outside of the venue. Also hate that the one camera guy is being called a murderer. He couldnt have done anything. He shouldnt have threatened to throw the girl off his stand, but her being up there was itself a safety hazard and, like I said, there was nothing he could have done. Ive grown up going to concerts and festivals in the rock and metal scene, but I also work in the field and have plenty of friends and acquaintances who have worked larger crowds than astroworld and even they say the primary blame should be with Live Nation. Theyre one of the biggest employers in the country for festivals and such, so if they crash because of this, itll suck for the industry that already still struggling, but I hope it opens up some eyes higher up in the company to not cut corners like they have a habit of doing.
@natatatt
@natatatt 2 жыл бұрын
Thought of this channel as soon as I saw the Astroworld news. There have been a few crowd/crush related videos on this channel - thought of how the people at Astroworld would have suffered horribly.
@olliefoxx7165
@olliefoxx7165 2 жыл бұрын
@@kittikat4124 No, the biggest culprit is Travis. He has a history of inciting his audience to act wild and has been fined for doing so in the past. The bulk of the blame is on him. He's not the only one responsible but he alone controlled the mood and actions of the fans. His past conduct is a huge factor in that tragedy.
@hunkyfunkyletsgetmonkey7464
@hunkyfunkyletsgetmonkey7464 2 жыл бұрын
I thought of this too. All we can hope for now is it will never happen again, and there will be an increased standard for healthcare at festivals.
@josephm8294
@josephm8294 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kylie. Send Kim and your sisters my regards. We know you still want to rule social media as role models. Ever thus to deadbeats.
@MTMFan
@MTMFan 2 жыл бұрын
Now I see why they had us do bus safety as a kid! I was in grade school around this time.
@katiefyock9607
@katiefyock9607 2 жыл бұрын
I remember having to do drills and jump out of the back of the bus.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 жыл бұрын
But still, no seat belts...eye roll
@julesc1989
@julesc1989 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about this disaster but I’m glad they taught us like 6 ways to jump out of a bus during drills
@yesterdaydream
@yesterdaydream 2 жыл бұрын
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 One of my schools had buses with seat belts...we would loosen them as far as they'd go and then swing around in the sweats
@MsMedford
@MsMedford 2 жыл бұрын
Same i remember too
@edp9743
@edp9743 2 жыл бұрын
Its amazing the inaccuracies to this story in the way it was presented.
@tammycosby4495
@tammycosby4495 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about the age of the bus. It looked like the ones we rode back in the 70s. The ones now are almost totally different than the ones back then as far as safety and ways of escape. The most shocking thing to me was the guy was only sentenced to 16 years and served less than 10 - for the deaths of 27 people. I know. I know. People will say it wasn’t totally his fault. It wasn’t intentional. He didn’t know what he was doing. That’s great, for him. But what about the families of those 27 dead people who’ve already spent 33 years without their loved ones. That’s more than twice his original sentence. 27X33 Christmases. 27X33 Thanksgivings. 27X33 birthdays, not counting other family members’ birthdays. Dozens of weddings and births, not counting their own weddings and possible future children. I understand that maybe 1 mistake shouldn’t define a person’s life - but his defined 27 innocent young lives.
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 Жыл бұрын
1977…just days before stricter rules were to take effect.
@cathychilders5109
@cathychilders5109 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this crash all to well, was living in Louisville, KY at the time. I was working the counter at a dry cleaners. One of our regular customers was a cop, he had been called to assist with the wreck. He brought his uniform in to be cleaned, his uniform was covered with ash and dried blood. He told us first hand what had happened. The young man that you quoted had become a University of Kentucky football player and was really good.
@CMBLXX
@CMBLXX 2 жыл бұрын
I was a senior in high school when this happened. I can remember reading the newspaper articles, about how the driver had gone the wrong way down the interstate and I was just flabbergasted and that always stuck with me. I kept picturing that in my mind for some reason, because it seemed so impossible. I remember feeling so completely sad for the victims, and angry that the situation ever happened at all.
@chrisbatson3402
@chrisbatson3402 Жыл бұрын
Great channel I lived in us my whole life and never heard of most all these stories. Great job!
@danriker8194
@danriker8194 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say that these videos are really an eye opener. I have only heard of a handful of these disasters before and am shocked by how many I have never seen or heard of that impact our lives or the lives of our fellow men and women of the world. Please continue your quest to enlighten us and inform us of these disasters so that we can better prepare and engineer a safer future. Thank you!
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