I appreciate your candid reply. No doubt you'll get attention, but it will come from men who want something from you rather than from those who want to give something of themselves. The former is lust, the latter is love. If your romantic relationships are often characterized by selfishness, transactional attitude, and a lack of appreciation for your dignity, this might be why.

As a woman who likes *some* attention (come on, we all grew up with Cinderella), just wear bright red! Or a long dress or a sun hat or grow out your hair or whatever is slightly unusual for your culture. You'll probably get noticed *more* than the girl in the crop top because as he says in the video: immodest dress is becoming the norm. There are so many ways to draw attention without revealing skin. I can tell you, wearing a modest red dress will draw the eye and they might think you are pretty, but not necessarily sexual. I agree with the video about intimacy being just with my man. Everyone else can think "pretty," "classy," or the biblical virtue: "chaste."

Let me know how that works for you when you grow old, your looks fade, skin sags, and you no longer turn men's heads. Living a life as the object of men's attention will leave you hollow and unfulfilled. Christ calls us to be better versions of ourselves.

Clearly NOT a woman.. liar.

@@BrianHoldsworth amen

Um, no. People have a right to their own comfort over what others around you want.

@@Unclenate1000 What a terrible and selfish take.

Hm. The best reason is that it is for God. We are made in His image, we are to defend His honor and our dignity. We are pointing to God, as Mary and Joseph always did. You are not an accessory to another's sin in this case, unless you dress provocatively. Obviously, each are held responsible for thier own sin. And because of that, when you dress modestly, you are loving your neighbor, as yourself, for the love of God. God bless

@@Unclenate1000 according to the worldly perspective. Christian attitudes are entirely different from what the world deems as appropriate.

@@izabeera166 so I should get a heatstroke or else I'm selfish?

I think part of the point is precisely to make these not be seen as 'intimate' by society any longer

What if I love women equally and I'm only intimate if the woman asks for intimacy

What is so intimate about my biceps, stomach, and thighs?

@@galacticgardevoir9496 That's a bit of a bad question because it misses the point entirely. There is nothing objectively intimate about any body part because the perception of intimacy comes from a certain cultural context. This means that in a hypothetical society where the entire body is constantly displayed, such as a nude society, there would largely be no sense of body intimacy. The point isn't to contradict this, the point is that this would be undesirable for a series of moral and philosophical beliefs, which don't even need to be related to religion (I'm saying that because this is a religious channel primarily). I, myself, am agnostic, but still believe there is a worrying lack of intimacy in today's society, and this is shown by the trend to consider progressively less body parts to be intimate. So I end up agreeing with the points made in this video.

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Same! Some of these immodest trends are ridiculous!

Me too 😅

I feel that way Abt men also. Except at the beach or swimming pool, I hate seeing men bare chested . I talk to my TV all the time to the men to cover up!!!

Amen! 💯👏

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I dress sexy cuz im hot af. If u dont like it stay jealous. If youre a man and you dont like it, stay gay🤣

Terrified of what? They can hardly be accused of sexism or harassment when the company policy is clear on what is and is not allowed. I bet they didn't have an issue disciplining their male employees.

I'm a retired nurse and believe it or not, we had similar issues. Younger nurses would wear shirts that would rise up when they were hanging an IV bag or would be a little bit too low cut. I worked on a paediatric floor. Finally it took one teenage boy's mom to speak up to the nurse manager for things to change. The boy would get embarrassed and look away when these nurses were working in his room. Poor kid was just trying to heal.

Yikes. One wonders how these girls have been raised? What are mom and dad like? We live in a debauched culture. Deus Vult

@@alaunaenpunto3690 Honestly they are right to be afraid of being accused of sexual harassment because despite the fact the girls are wearing less than decent clothing and want to be noticed for their bodies if you intentionally notice then its harassment, (according to their thought patterns). We have similar issues in Middle and High schools with the male teachers. They also can't comment on dress code violations without fearing repercussions which could cost them their jobs. Not following dress codes can be a safety issue also though but the whole issue has been so convoluted by feminist that men truly are afraid (rightly so) for the possible consequences of enforcement.

That is a time in life where the man can choose to use his neck and eye muscles that God gave him. 🙄 16 year old girls are not out to get you. 🙄

The problem is they WANT that kind of attention often, and I say this as both a woman and an unashamed feminist.

@@madamebkrt Exactly, go to know at least one feminist recognizes the fact. Why do they want this attention?

@@crusader2112 Huge emphasis on sex in our society and being encouraged to feel that being sexualised is validating. They are victims of the sick world we're currently living in.

@@madamebkrt Very true. I agree. Thanks.

@@crusader2112 probably because they didn’t receive unconditional love nor sufficient validation from their parents, but the unfulfilled needs are there to stay, and have to be met one way or another.

Never thought of doing acts for women like this. Great thought!

That was beautiful. Food for thought!

That is a great take! Never thought of it in this way. Thanks !

Extremely well thought through...thanks!

Excellent explanation of the power and responsibility of the sexes! Every gift convey a responsibility. Let’s not abuse our power.

Actually, one of the BEST ways for females to avoid arousing men is to just plain be SLOPPY.

Very true

"Put-together" is far more apt to inspire lust than just not bothering to look nice.

This is a really challenging position to hold, but I like the words you choose. I don’t believe we are responsible for causing someone to lust. We can never be held responsible for someone else’s choices. Yet I do think we owe it to our communities and relationships to do our best to dress in an appropriate way for the situation, in an attempt to not make anyone feel uncomfortable with us… paired with the belief in personal dignity. Would you agree or disagree?

@@denisenoe1534 to ask women to not put any effort into their appearance because if they look “put together” they’re more likely to cause lust is offensive. It’s terrible to think someone would feel guilty for looking nice.

IKR. Not too long ago, i wore a knee-length flared skirt and yoga pants with an oversized hoodie. Didn't stop the statement about the jiggle physics of my butt. And that's where my problem is. Some people, no matter how you dress, are going to be disgusting. Should that mean you should have the bottom of your bottom out, or wear a top showing more skin than your bra? Of course not! Dress modesty, sure. But that won't stop all the unwanted attention.

​@magicalronin in an increasingly sexualized society, men like that have been emboldened to comment like that on strangers' bodies, where before the fear of backlash would have kept their months shut. We've accommodated objectionable behavior in the name.of tolerance with the expected result. Interestingly enough, in Mexico, which is a pretty socially conservative country, you'll often see women dress in revealing clothing and not get hassled the way they would here--because men know they're risking a swift response from their male kin if they behave disrespectfully.

Yes, in this wicked culture.. but in my experience, immodest clothing makes it much much worse. Heard that fron other women too, plus it's obvious

Regardless of closing doors at night, a thief would still break in. So people who want to have their doors closed at night are "backwards, controlling or insecure".

on the contrary it can be far more attractive and stylish

Is that what you wear to the beach ?

@@tonymercer7759 I don't go to the beach cause I live in the mountains. I go skinny dipping like a real country gal in the creeks. Duh.

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​​@@Strange9952it is more attractive because it literally frames your face and hair and draws attention to your countenance, while exposing your flesh distracts and away from your unique natural beauty to just another body just like everyone else. That's my female perspective lol

Sooooooo confusing out here bro😂

"Toxic norms" that's the expression I have been looking for...thank you

This guy is new to the game. He was part of that toxic feminist shaming brigade for decades.

I really love your perspective and completely agree. I used to feel so worried about whether my outfit would cause someone to lust, but now believe I’m simply not responsible for other peoples thoughts. It’s a stressful world you live in where you feel responsible for something you can’t control! Modesty to me simply means dressing in an appropriate way for the situation, which varies depending on who I’m with and where I am. I want my friends to feel comfortable around me.

That is true, but also, some people (men and women) wear clothing outside that covers less than my actual bras and panties. I don’t want to see the size or shape of any mans genitals and many men don’t want to see the exact shape and size of a woman’s breasts, butts and genitals.

@@deborahlee3484 Yes, and if I'm not mistaken, modesty is also about intent. For instance, my understanding is a that neither a believing man nor a believing woman, is supposed to dress in such a way wear the intention is clearly those show off their wealth

@@tinkthestrange I see what you're saying, though I will say, with regards to men not wanting to see women's chests is that The Bible doesn't show that women's chests are more private than men. In Genesis, we see God cover both Adam and Eve equally

Modesty is a posture of the heart. We usually know if we're dressing for attention. Also, some styles can just become a habit/expected look. The Lord has convicted me about this in particular over the last year or so. I used to wear shorts that were too short (I believe.) I now only feel comfortable wearing bermuda length shorts (9 inch inseam). But anyway.. "posture of the heart" has really stuck with me. That goes for men and women.

Who listens to these men? The main people I see pushing it are self described feminists. Who aren't even particularly committed to any sort of equality.

True, we all know why they promote it.

It makes me so sick when you don't wear a burqa to be modest

​@@jonjonson7248it makes me disgusted when you degrade dignified Western Christian women who want to be classy and decent and taken seriously, and demonize our values and standards by illogically and foolishly comparing our values to that of extremist Muslims, whose evil false religion also promotes all manner of brutality toward women..in a vain and idiotically errant effort to discredit or somehow refute us.

@Severian how about a verbal invitation? Outfits aren't invitations to sex. I'm married. I've been fully naked in the house before, like after a shower or in between an outfit change. My hubby doesn't get to sexually assault me just cuz I'm naked. If being naked isn't an invitation then neither is a mini skirt. Don't be absurd.

I've used that line on women before and the response is usually that women shouldn't have to censor their bodies because some men can't help themselves, that they are not responsible for the moral failings of men. And they would often back up this opinion with the observation that men are never expected to change the way they dress, so why should women. I have yet to find a good response that doesn't come across a favoritism.

@@alaunaenpunto3690 maybe because there is a hint of truth in it. Men are more likely to assault women, regardless of what they look like. Women are by very nature more vulnerable, and lusted after by men. Due to men being very testosterone and therefore sexualy driven. Pair that with a crappy personality, unstable upbringing and lack of morals/values/integrity and cultural influence. And you have an issue. Women are more targeted. This is not fair. That is the world we live in. And a woman must understand that she lives in a world that is not about fairness. And to protect herself, it would be in her best interest to cover her sexually desirable attributes. That sounds oppressive. But it is actually suppression, for someone else's sake but also for their own. Im a woman. I understand this. But I also do not have the mindset that I live in a patriarchal tyranical society So I don't feel the urge to constantly "liberate" myself from said opression. Just understand that most non religious women will operate from that point of view. They want ultimate freedom without the consequences. Suppression has turned into oppression. It's not. It's unwillingness to see yourself as part of a whole. Individualism at its "finest"

It's not a big responsibility. Modesty is what comes naturally. Women are going out of their way to sexualize themselves. Do guys wear skin-tight clothing, short-shorts, navel shirts, etc? No.

@@Dennis-nc3vw they do. I see shirtless men everywhere I go and need to avert or lower my gaze just as much. Both men and women dres inappropriately. It's just that female bodies have more attributes to look at from a male perspective. But believe me. Women also look at men and their asses, chest, tight jeans, shirtless bodies etc. It's no different. Modesty has left our culture. And it's a sad thing.

The point folks miss is that just because something is a freedom does not mean that you have to engage in it. For those that are OK with the looks, and many are, dressing like that is fine. Some people are OK with creating amateur porn and some are not. But, dressing like that and then whining about people looking is childish and narcissistic. It's one thing if we're talking about at the gym or running on a hot day where something baggy may not be practical, but most of these folks aren't engaged in any such activities, it's about attention.

@@SmallSpoonBrigade Modesty is not situational, neither at the gym or at the beach. Making modesty "situational" is what got us into the current troubles.....

​@@jamesyoung187totally

​@@SmallSpoonBrigadeit's not ok, because they're imposing it on the rest of us and it's pornographic at this point. Many of us women are also seriously just grossed out

I personally see a lot more people condemning people for wearing less than I have ever heard people say that people are obligated to wear less.

Aslamualaikum wa rahmatullah! Im a Muslim too but i do agree with the video and your comments

i think to have a conversation with someone that doesn't believe in objective morality, you'd need to question them on the basis of their morality and why it is that they feel they should dress how they like. And wether doing what you want is beneficial for the general population. Theres a reason pride is a sin of course. I dont think the idea that "you can do whatever you want so long as it doesn't hurt anyone" is a valid basis for morality because harm is subjective, and more us God fearing people we could easily argue that dressing immodesty, certainly for self obsessive reasons is harmful for society

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@@deechonada Wa alaikum Asalaam It's not a bad idea to question the foundation of their morality - you'd just need to have a really good skill in staying in control of the conversation. Something I've observed is if you try to go into those types of questions with those types of people - most will do anything to everything to steer the conversation in some other direction. Though sometimes you don't really need to ask them inadeptly. Like - I'm very convinced that most people who where clothing and yet are naked do it for the praise of other people even though they themselves will tell you they're "doing it for themselves". It's even more obvious if they have a social media account and regularly post pics/vids of themselves.

@@deechonada Do you recognize that you don't live in a theocracy, though?

@kathyyore309 Me too. I adore those full skirted 50's dresses and a lovely apron over the front indoors. Had to learn to sew to get them the way I want them though. (as in colours and collar styles not as in tight or revealing)

Yes, men too! (Although, admittedly, this is more a problem with women these days.)

If you really don't want lust, the solution isn't modesty but sloppiness. If you look like a bag lady, guys won't be turned on.

I usually dress in mechanic overhauls. I have a few sets leftover from my working days . A ball cap and a hooded zipper seat shirt and work boots . I can not see how much more modest this old guy can dress. During the summer I have blue jeans short that cover my knees. Always a T shirt lots of veteran ones at Mass my Knights of Columbus shirt either blue dress pants in the winter or kaki in the summer.

Except I would prefer it if women would stop gazing at my junk. Just because I'm hung like a horse does not mean that I like being stared at there. And believe me, I have tried to find clothing that disguises or hides the bulge and it's far easier said than done. The main reason why we think of this being more of a men staring at women issue is simply that the amount of deviation from a woman's face to her chest is smaller than from a man's face to his groin. And only slightly further when talking head to butt.

@@SmallSpoonBrigade Chris, are you making a joke here? I know this is a topic ripe for joking. But women don't usually stare at a man's crotch be he large or small.

I am not responsible for how someone else feels about my clothes or my body.

@@Grokford True up to a point. When people choose what they wear, what is the intention of their choices? What is the purpose of wearing clothing that reveals rather than covers "private" parts of the body?

@@songs8619 I don’t find intention to be relevant from a social point. Other people’s reactions are their business. And I don’t think that if people are showing something that it can be considered private. Not everyone shares your opinions on bodies.

​@@songs8619 Agreed.. In arabic there's a wisdom that goes "For every illness there's a cure, except for idiocy"

Gay

“Modesty” isn’t really a concept . You’re dressing how you’re comfortable, that’s great but that’s personal to you. No one should have made you feel like you had to dress a certain way and I certainly do plan on doing that to other people either.

The comment "like you wonderful Catholics" cracked me up. Thank you, on behalf of all Catholics.😁

I know what you mean. And never blame yourself. The unconscious cultural forces are strong, its not you. But never let resentment take the place either. Thanks for doing what you can to stay away from porn my friend. Stay close to the lord and spend time with your best friend, the more you do you will see that in all this darkness there is still joy. And the light will prevail, he has overcome the world although we are currently wandering in the desert and walking in the cities of Babylon :) I can see you have a lot of love inside you.

Thank you for this comment. I teared up when you stated "it makes me so happy to see that there is still good in the world". This made my day.

God bless man. As a 20 yr old Catholic, I can absolutely relate to your main sentiment here. Being an only child I can't even imagine how uncomfortable that would make me to see that. Pray for her safety and faith. 🙏🙏 Thank you for sharing.

Pray hard for your sister. God hears every suffering heart.

Like the woman at the beach in the thing bikini that sat down in the sand in front of me and my make friend, we're both Christians... Very uncomfortable.

Wise words, and very true. It is infantile to insist on doing your own thing whatever it might be on the grounds that it doesn't affect/harm anyone else, especially if they don't "look". Everything you do affects others.

@@kilodeltawhisky1504 side note, if you dont like the view, you probably just gay. Who doesnt like looking at a womans body?

​@@kilodeltawhisky1504 You think you're uncomfortable? 😞😞How do you think I feel when Brits/other people from the West come over to my state in India in bikinis when everyone else wears clothing head to toe? A lot of western women are so degenerate they don't even respect our sensibilities. It feels insulting to have to bear that even in my land. You guys need to gather up courage and start shaming people and supporting media and laws that oppose degeneracy including immodest fashion. You need to create cultural change. Otherwise its never going to stop.

Unfortunately our culture and especially social media is hyper sexualized and porn sick and therefore teaching new "norms" that objectify young women more than ever. But many young women are just not presented wilth appropriate behavior and many men don't respect physical boundaries. Their confusion is a fruit of a deChristenized culture.

Abuse? 🤔😳 I don't think you know what that word means. 🙄

Clothes don't sexualize people. People do

@@politereminder6284 So why don't women are strip clubs dance in burqas?

@@politereminder6284 stupid

Or dressing children inappropriately and sexually because it is the norm even though they cannot consent they get brainwashed and normalized into dressing worse than a prostitute does

This! And this goes far beyond dress. People are too comfortable with presenting all kinds of immodesty and vulgarity in front of children & young people. It makes me sick. Sick and sad.

Sexual abuse..covert sexual abuse

​@@dan-ch8krI've literally seen Hollywood moms twerking ON their tween girls🤮 unfathomable perversion and abuse

Chill

I was in NYC the other day for the first time in about a year and I was shocked. It was all as you describe. I'm getting tired of being around other women. It really is all about desperate need for male sexual attention. I'm not jealous either. I just literally want to walk down the street without seeing other people's anatomy. I'm not sure which is worse-- the nudity or the looks on their faces as they scan around to see who's looking at them. I just want to live my life and be with people who have interests other than lust from dirty old men 😫

Preach! The rationalizations women invent, such as "it's comfortable!" or "I feel confident and empowered" are so transparently BS.

It doesnt matter what u want other people to dress like. They can dress however they want.

@@szs2785dress how they want in sleazy nightclubs as then they will find people who want to see all that. I don’t it makes me uncomfortable and it is cringy

You should do some introspection about why you feel the reactions you do when you experience someone who "triggers" you that way. When you have the kind of love and respect Jesus did for others, those "triggers" will be brought under the control of a disciplined mind.

I can agree that people who dress revealing will set themselves up to be viewed a certain way, but that is as far as their responsibility lies. You as an individual have the responsibility to keep your desires in check as well. If you expect women to dress modestly, it isn’t far-fetched to expect you as a man to not fall into temptation either.

No I honestly will pray for your young daughter because you probably are lustfully looking at teenagers, stop blaming women and focus on your demonic self because you will always be tempted by the flesh.

@@jasminerose2737 the person whose comment you replied to is a woman.

@@jasminerose2737 wtf is wrong with you

@@MissingTrails, it becomes painfully obvious the more I read through these comments that reading comprehension has sadly gone the way of the dodo.

I know, i feel such intense second hand embarrassment for women wearing flesh-colored clothing!! At first glance (or 2nd, 3rd, 4th..) they do initially look naked, and it's shocking and like scary lol. And seriously, along with mosg of the other sexualized dress of our time, just looks really bad. Not sexy, not atrractive, not flatteting. Just gross

Well put. Love your perspective. I, too, find modestly dressed people ( men and women) more attractive. It shows that they have more respect fo themselves and others around them.

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Every African priest I’ve ever come across is wonderfully devout. During the pandemic, when we were all being denied the sacraments, a Nigerian priest at my local parish gave me his cel number, telling me to call or text him any time I needed confession or general spiritual help despite the church being closed for worship. He’s moved parishes, but I’ve stayed in touch with him, and I consider him my spiritual advisor. God bless all African priests.

@@b.felicisimo5937 that is quite an overstatement. Do you know how big Africa is? Also, many African "pastors" are superficial and do not care for spiritual learning.

@@jenss.3613 I’m not talking about African “pastors”. Im well aware of the Nigerian prosperity gospel preachers who have enriched themselves to the point of absurdity. I’m talking specifically about Catholic priests from Africa who I’ve encountered personally- namely from Nigeria and Cameroon.

It can be hard for us as women to "look" as you put it and notice if somethings immodest. Im not talking about when somethings obviously imodest. Ive had experiences where everythings covered on me and my girlfriends said the outfit was fine. But then a guy friend said that it drew attention in a sexual way. We dont look at our bodies through the lense of sexual attraction like men do. So sometimes we miss things. Be patient with us modesty is complicated sometimes from our perspective.

I can relate man. I will call into question as to what is immodest or too revealing, but I can relate.

Isn't actual pornography exploitative of women though, in a way in which revealing clothing is not?

@@GCarty80 - you obviously did not read my comment. I'm not equating the two. I'm saying that if your perception of women is already corrupted by pornography, seeing women in revealing clothing can be a trigger for some men.

You think if all women wore "modest" clothing it would make things easier, but it wouldn't. It would only make you less desensitized to the female body, and you would be more easily turned on by less skin. It wouldn't prevent lust. I lived in a country where women covered everything but their eyes and hands in public, and the men there have no easier time avoiding lust. In fact, my dad says they seemed to have even more of an issue with it, because even seeing a woman's face or hair would turn them on.

youd be surprised to know that Turkey is the least muslim country among muslims, for us they resemble europeans in their lifestyle 😂

Yes! I didn’t go to Turkey yet, but I started to dress modestly and I feel very good I love Muslim people as well Catholic

@@mariauriz2868 I had conversation with a Serbian woman. She considered herself as Orthodox Christian but she dressed up in revealing clothes and when i asked about it she was trying to justify it.

Not a very muslim country

​@@hibahadjadj508exactly! I'm from Kurdistan, and Turkey is one of the most unislamic countries I can think of.

This was also said by Jesus during a different cultural moment where the modesty standard was just a *bit* different. But ik, He is pointing to a heart issue nonetheless

Nobody would argue otherwise, but that is no excuse to be immodest.

@@jamesshives5679 Actually, Islam argues otherwise. The women of Afghanistan can't even keep their eyes uncovered and must look through fabric grill/mesh. Why? Because women are responsible for men's lust. I am all for modesty and have always been a modest dresser. At the age of 64, I can honestly say that I have never worn make-up or high heels. But campaigning for modest dress on the grounds of a man's right not to be offended sounds dangerously like first step down a slippery slope. Because standards of modesty and sensitivity to offense will always be subjective, averting one's eyes (women do it too...I am ashamed to say that I am repulsed by obese men and my lack of compassion at the sight of them is my sin) and perhaps simultaneously offering a prayer is a good way of dealing with this issue in a free society.. In my opinion.

God made men to be lustful at the sight of a near-naked woman. That's not a "problem." The problem arises when immodesty arouses the expected lust. Solution: Don't be immodest.

@@billderring9349 Lust is a sin. So you are saying God made men to sin so it is no their fault? Women's form of dress is the problem? So women are responsible for men's sin? This goes against Jesus's own teaching. Just read some of the Desert Fathers for exemples of how valiantly men have battled against lust... and they did it by rooting out the sin from their own hearts not by putting sacks on women. I have always been a modest dresser and am all for modest dressing. However, men need to address the root of lust in themselves and stop shifting the blame.

Implying that being modest is somehow uncomfortable is ridiculous first off and second off you are lying to yourself if you think revealing clothes arnt inherently sexual

Short shorts and sexualized shirts and dresses ofcourse will cause attention as a parent you know when the clothes are inappropriate shame on you for saying you can't find good clothes . I've gone through the dessert on my way to california to visit family and their were many ladies and young ladies dressed appropriately and many who weren't it's a joke to say you can't find appropriate clothing . Come on and please 🙏 you need some lessons in shopping then apparently and yes I have 3 daughters one who's a teen and even I can shop appropriately.

Yes. 🙌 There’s something wrong about blaming our lustful thoughts on clothes. As women we can try to dress appropriately but it will never solve the larger problem of porn and lust. It will never prevent lust. We each make our own decisions about what goes on in our minds.

Welcome to the human race, Karen, we hope you enjoy your stay.

Shop at thrift stores.

Amen!

Makes me appreciate going to private school for what it’s worth. If you show up with your shirt untucked or school uniform not up to par, you could find yourself being assigned a ten page written assignment as to why that’s a bad idea. Whether you think it’s bad or not😅

Ladies. I love leggings, but I wear them under mid length or long skirts. Private parts are called that because they are meant to be private!

Pants shouldnt be allowed for women anyway

True

Noticing and appreciating a woman who is not your wife is fine. It's what you do with those thoughts afterwards, when the woman in question is long gone. BTW, it is possible to notice, appreciate, and then put it out of your mind. You don't need to be distressed just because you behave noticed. Noticing does not equal lusting. Noticing does not automatically lead to lusting. Lustingnis a choice you make inside you. It has nothing to do with the woman you have noticed.

​@@politereminder6284"appreciating" her body is not right for a married man and could open the door to temptation..men should try to focus on their own wives

Yes, we need to begin a culture of Life...this is a really great start. By having good messaging.

I am apocalyptic by nature. However, I believe we are about to enter a new age of peace, prosperity, and prayer... l mean in a mind-blowing way.

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@@cnam1258 I think you're going to be horribly disappointed.

Praise the Lord, it is great!

Exactly!

Funny how nobody is protesting the Roe v Wade decision dressed like in the thumbnail🤷🏽‍♂️

Hello Alex! I understand the sentiment, and please do not take this as a sign of uncharity, but I disagree with you. Modesty is not merely about the wearer, but the reactions of others. In 1954, Pope Pius XII suggested that it is possible to be immodest without knowing it, saying, “How many young girls there are today who do not see any wrong-doing in following certain shameless fashion styles like so many sheep! They would certainly blush if they could guess the impression they make and the feelings they evoke in those who see them. What sins are committed or provoked by this public display of deliberate and calculated immodesty? How lax have consciences become, how pagan morals!”

There comes a point where you have to take responsibility for yourself and understand the way you are dressing is immodest , men not being allowed to look doesn’t somehow absolve women from the responsibility of being modest . If you go outside in a crop top and shorts for example you have no place to use the excuse “I have no intention to draw attention “ because at that point you know exactly what you are doing

So....if I wear a long , fully covered, ball gown that lights up and glows and has sequins andlights, then I'm being immodest 🤷‍♀️because I want to be noticed at the ball gown event?

Honestly it depends on what kinds of attention you’re talking about because I can dress like a nun to school and get bullied.

It's on purpose

Women know exactly what they are doing when they choose their clothes. No matter what they may say, they find their power in directing (or causing the need to deflect) the eyes of all that see them. It is very sad that they are not aware of their true worth. When I was young, I was not aware of my worth as a child of God. I learned through the years. If makes me sad to see how women dress…especially in the presence of their own sons and daughters. Uncomfortable, to say the least…as a woman, I don’t know where to look🤪

If u have a negative reaction to seeing a womens body…ur probably gay and closeted lol

You CAN avoid men looking at you with lust but the solution isn't modesty but just plain being sloppy. Wear clothes that are old, stained, ragged, and don't fit correctly. The guys won't get turned on by that.

At that point it is not your fault

How about just going sloppy? Stained, ragged clothing.

At that point its their problem not yours. May Our Lord bless you.

The burka will only intrigue them more. Sexualization is not something your clothing does to you. It's something people do to people. I lived in a community where many women wore Hijabs. Those women only attracted more intrigue and challenge and mystery to the men. They were sexualized even though they only showed the skins of their hands and faces- no hair, no feet, no ankles, nothing else. 🙄

What clothing exactly advertises someone as a sexual being?🤔

@@politereminder6284 The king that sex workers wear. The fact that women wear the same things at the beach that they do at strip clubs should tell you something.

@@politereminder6284 When they wear very revealing clothes or dress sexy. When they put their body on display.

U sound like ur in the closet lol

Congrats on being an open-minded person. It's refreshing to see.

@@joanl.7543 haha thank you! It was something I knew I should accept but could never quite come to terms with - and then I saw Brian was about to upload this video and .. well here we are 😂😂❤️ but props to Brian, he’s always got a really humble and objective way of approaching things - I always felt like I was being “preached” to, but now I feel empowered :)

@@juliakolbe511 sometimes we just need the right outlet for the message Especially for issues like this

I did the turn around too a few years ago I thought it was difficult as well. But you will feel so much more feminine and beautiful than you ever have before. God bless on your journey.

@@nataliabenoit4653 right back at you, sister!

As a man I feel terribly guilty about the sense of sheer relief I feel when the weather gets warm enough for a significant number of women to start wearing dresses or skirts!

It literally is the natural human tendency, throughout all of human history. Hollywood and the fashion industry are pushing people into this against what they would feel more comfortable, dignified, peaceful, safe and emotionally protected in

Vanity but also desire for seduction and power in women. The joke is on them in the end (per the devil they are following into sin), because they are actually giving their power away to men by behaving like this. Free shows for men who want to exploit them

This is actually a great point. I appreciate the Christian perspective here, but how much of what modesty is thought to be is a Christian perspective and how much is it a European perspective? When you live in hotter countries you wear less clothing and it's reasonable. What is modest? Let's talk about it.

@@mosaiciron Eh, I’m of the opinion that modesty is contextual. But also that it simply comes from common sense. Today, one doesn’t need to cover their ankles to be modest. But it’s definitely best to avoid wearing crop tops or showing too much cleavage, for example.

@@isadsales it does seem to be common sense, but are you saying that modesty is... culturally relevant? Would, for example, it be less immodest to have cleavage out as a woman in the European Renaissance when ankle showing may be more tempting to a man because a woman's breast is for a child, while her legs are for her man? I'm asking: is there a universal common sense of what is obviously suggestive or does it evolve and depend on respecting cultural norms on decency? Respectfully,

Look up Marylike modesty. There are many requirements laid out by Pope Pius XI about it

Yes exactly I had to do the same and not easy at first but once the change happens it becomes your new normal. Even years ago people dressed in layers of clothing in hot weather. They didn't even think to take those layers away. That being said you dont need to go to the extreme but look for good examples of traditional catholic women in modest clothing and you can then find it's not that hard

Well said

Yes. Love is willing the good of the other. Lust is using the other for good of self.

Heavy women often have trouble finding things that fit right. The same is true of flat-chested women: almost any bra is unlikely to correctly fit.

How about pray about her

@@denisenoe1534 us flat chested gals don’t need a bra ✋

Haha maybe ur just bisexual?😂

In some societies it's been normal for women to walk around without shirts on and they seem to be fine in that regard. It's harder to sexualize something to that extent if it's out in the open for all to see every day all day.

@@SmallSpoonBrigade sorry , those primitives have rejected or never heard the salvation of Christ. Also, the third world is called such for many reasons. One is the level of sin tolerated. No, moving to obedience of the Father is really the only hope for the world. Sorry you weren’t exposed to these truths. But now you have a beginning. Obey the Father in fear and trembling, do your children a favor. Or, we burn for eternity. As we learn and live the one true faith, we begin to accept facts more than usual. Some indigenous tribes in S. America still practice infanticide. This practice is antithetical to Christ, no? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9t5eLyfmKvLmas.html

If we really cared about children we’d abolish organized religion since that is where a massive amount of abuse and grooming occures

@@szs2785 sorry, atheists killed 100,000,000 men, women, and children in the 20th century. Your refusal to read history is glaring

I wonder if concerns over global overpopulation, beginning in a big way in 1969 with Paul Ehrlich's "The Population Bomb", made traditional feminine dress (which as I see it was designed to facilitate the expansion and contraction of a woman's body from pregnancy and childbirth) ideologically suspect? A passage from Germaine Greer's "Sex and Destiny" (which I originally encountered via an article on a Muslim website defending the Islamic modest dress code) seemed very revealing: “Women who wear cortes or huipiles or saris or jellabas or salwar kameez or any other ample garments can swell and diminish inside them without embarrassment or discomfort. Women with shawls and veils can breastfeed anywhere without calling attention to themselves, while baby is protected from dust and flies. In most non-Western societies, the dress and ornaments of women celebrate the mothering function. Ours deny it.”

Imagine sexualizing your child so much that you won't let them swim without a shirt. Let kids be kids

@@jarjardaze2485 seriously though

@@Unclenate1000 it sickens me ngl. Purity culture is ruining lives of kids and teens

@@jarjardaze2485 it’s not about you sexualizing your own child. It’s about protecting it from other ppl who might be. Do you know that pedos exists right? Why would I expose my child for no reason and give predators free entertainment? The same way I won’t post pictures of my child on the internet.

You don't need to teach men to be modest, we do it naturally. Even in 100 degree weather we wear shorts that go down to our knees. 98% of us are too embarassed to wear speedos while women go swimming showing half their ass. And when was the last time you saw a guy in a navel shirt and didn't assume he was a gay prostitute? Forcing kids to swim with their shirts on his going too far though.

Simple. To the people who express that sentiment, ask them if they are ashamed of their sex life. If not, then ask them why they don't fuck in public, in full view for everyone to see.

This is the best I got, coming from a conversation I had with a close friend of mine who dresses immodestly (as a Catholic) and tried to make a similar case to this: "I'm not implying that you are ashamed, or should be. You shouldn't. But protecting your body is not doing so in shame, but in pride. You were made in the image of God, and you should uphold that gift and treasure it by protecting your beautiful body from society, who WILL tell you to feel ashamed about your body, though they won't tell you to hide it because they WANT to judge you and they WANT you to judge other women's bodies."

Carl…not just a question of not being ashamed of their bodies…but to treasure their bodies and souls. Hopefully they don’t feel that their bodies are made only to be on display for others to gawk at.

It’s just more comfortable to wear very little. Some people hate the feeling of fabric and being covered up. It has nothing to do with trying to make anyone else look. It’s also not to try and seduce random men you might walk past during going about your day. If you think it is that says more about you being a pervert creep than anything else.

People are going to have different answers to your question, but my answer is, when the bottom of the swimsuit shows as much as underwear, should it be acceptable to wear in public? I don't think so. I made myself a swimskirt and capris rhat are both knee length. And I use a swim shirt

@@Ashley-li5yv But if people have different opinions how do I know which are objectively true?

@@socratesandstorybooks1109 there is always an objective truth. But on this side of heaven we wont always know it. But to those that ask the Lord and Our Lady for guidance, they will receive it. Showing our bums and thighs has for all of Christian history been considered immodest. I think that's a good starting place for Christians of Good Will. I try to take the example of how women saints dressed but within the customs of today (so I won't be wearing a crinoline cage under a floor length skirt with a corset but I will wear a midi skirt and blouse that covers the shoulders, upper arms, and cleavage

@@Ashley-li5yvGood points thank you:) Its hard cause sometimes when I go too far with modesty I stand out and appear unaproachable. I don't want to stand out or appear frumpy. But I also dont want to appear sexual. Finding the balance is hard. Thank you for yojr advice though:)

@@socratesandstorybooks1109 you're welcome! I try to dress in a modestly attractive way too. I do not dress frumpy. I always try to look my best :)

Well said. Bravo.

You're not male. Women aren't dressing this way because its comfortable and natural, they are dressing this way for sexual attention, and then pretending we are the bad guys for sexualizing them. If this were simply a comfortable way to dress, why aren't men doing it? Why is it 98% of males feel too embarassed to wear speedos? Why is it our shorts always touch our knees? Why is it that if we are in a formal setting we don't show an inch of flesh below the neck? Either men are repressed, or women are sexualizing themselves. Which is it?

​@@Dennis-nc3vw "Women aren't dressing this way because its comfortable and natural, they are dressing this way for sexual attention" I think you're doing a generalization there out of ignorance. Some might do it for attention, but not necesserally a sexual kind of one. It'd be about the aesthetic. Pursuing aesthetic or beauty does not imply pursuing sex. Some might not even do it for attention at all. And some might do it for sexual attention too. There is variety. " and then pretending we are the bad guys for sexualizing them. " I guess some self-control and/or openmindedness wouldn't hurt. " If this were simply a comfortable way to dress, why aren't men doing it?" Multiple reasons. Cultural and social, I'd say, mainly. In some cultures, a man wearing a dress will get fairly violent feedback because of assumptions regarding their sexuality. Even if it's technically just a piece of clothe, comfortable or not, it does not quite matter. Feminisation can also be associated with humiliation, since some societies can look down on women as the "weaker sex", and associate the clothing they were with the gender itself. It's internalised and ceases to be questioned eventually. To answer this question, I guess it really depends on how strict cultural norms are in the country you're at. "Why is it 98% of males feel too embarassed to wear speedos? " Where did you find that stat from? Genuinely curious. Otherwise, I'd guess it has to do with the size of their genital parts and how they're not used to having that shown in public when they're at a local swimming-pool. "Why is it our shorts always touch our knees?" Tis a cultural norm, probably, from the country you're at? You can also try wearing something shorter if you're feeling brave. " Why is it that if we are in a formal setting we don't show an inch of flesh below the neck?" Eh, I agree, I do wish that men had more options in formal settings. It's rather dull. Otherwise, in casual settings, I think both men and women should be free to explore what clothings they're prefer without being shamed for it. But I guess christianity has always been big on using shame against its followers. It's a fairly efficient tool for control, but I kind of dislike the emotional damage it does on people. "Either men are repressed, or women are sexualizing themselves. Which is it?" I guess a bit of both. You're feeling repressed, that's sure, from what I read, and some women do sexualise themselves. But there's also men overly sexualising women who don't aim to be sexualised. To be brief, the world is vast, and varied, and it would be close-minded to reduce the argument this way. I hope that one day this whole issue ceases to be about who's being victimised by the amount of clothe worn by women. So far I think it's about control. We're pieces of flesh dressing up in clothe. Perhaps there are bigger issues than this. That's my perspective on the whole thing, at least.

@@hehehehexila1811 My dong is huge and I'd feel very uncomfortable in speedo, thank you very much. Seriously, the only guy I knew who wore a speedo was a hyper-sexual womanizer. The reason people assume a man who shows a lot of skin is gay is because everyone knows (but many people simultaneously feign ignorance to) the fact that men are easily stimulated visually. So the assumption is if a guy is showing a lot of skin, he's trying to attract gay men, thus gay himself. But when we apply the same principle to women we get called misogynist pigs. You say it's just "gender roles" but how do you explain men's fashion is *always* less revealing than women's?

Ummm holy shit….please join a support group for getting out of incel culture…yikes!!!!

@@szs2785 okay predditor

Not some majority of Christian women dont even believe in it now. Have a look at Europe and Northern America where immodesty is promoted and being modest is considered as oppressed. Infact non Christian women's in India,China,Bhutan are more modest than Christian women of Europe

If you have a negative reaction to seeing a womans body…ur closeted gay bro

Thank you for this comment. Sad to see so many people operating at this level of awareness in modern society. Education is so important. No wonder conservatives do everything they can to shoot down funding for schools in red states😢