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Gohan as a pacifist would've been a perfectly fine concept imo if his motivation to get stronger was for the sole purpose of not having to fight ever again and being the absolute strongest being in existence that any threat is trivial. As outlandish as that idea sounds, it's a much better idea than whatever random power-ups he got in Super.

I thought Goku's shock at some realization in the Cell Games was that his son wasn't a fighter like him. But it might just have been him thinking wtf Toriyama did to his son in a week

Gohan telling his OWN mother to "Shut the hell up." is literally insane.

My problem with him is not learning lessons he should've already learned. He obviously doesn't like fighting but he has already learned that he has to to protect his family.

Gohan is a good example of how to waste a good character And he's also a prime example for any aspiring authors. Know how to balance doing what you want and doing what your fans want

Unpopular opinion but I would have watched a buu saga that lingered on Gohan's school life and saiyaman persona with him actually being a light-hearted protagonist who kicks it up when angry.

I do agree that Gohan stepping up to the mantle of main character was kinda sloppily handled. The whole pacifist thing is a little forced and he isn’t even part of the story for the majority of the cell/android saga. You can even see this reflected in the movies.

To this day, I still say Adult Gohan should have become a teacher like Master Roshi. Sure, he doesn't like fighting, but imagine how hard it would be to threaten the Earth with hundreds or thousands of trained humans to defend their planet. That way, Gohan could have been a leading researcher in ki while letting other people take up the fight.

Its True, Gohan was Never a Fighting maniac Like his father but he wasn't a Push Over either, he was willing to Fight When the ocassion called for it And was even Shown constantly training to not Get Behind, he was One of those "Superhero" type of characters Who doesn't nessesarily relish in Fighting but was Ready to do It When the situation called for it.

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I'll say this again: Yes, I know Gohan doesn't like fighting. You know what else he doesn't like? His friends, loved ones, and even complete innocent strangers getting hurt or killed, especially when it's to protect him. That's what prompted him to attack Raditz. To attack Nappa a couple times. To save Dende from Dodoria. To stand up to Recoome. To fight Frieza. Etc. etc. And to eventually unlock Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2. A Gohan going off of the Cell Games wouldn't just want to drop fighting altogether. Because he should know that he's the last line of defense for Earth if a villain shows up, and if he's not able to do that, everyone he knows and loves will be killed. "Wanting to be a scholar" is not an excuse for how Gohan's character has been since the Buu Saga.

I've always had something against Gohan, it was like a watching friend throw away every chance he had to be something great. It was as if the entire community was okay with just giving excuses and excuses for why Gohan isn't such an unfortunate letdown of a character, and that Gohan was truly him. I realize now that it's not that Gohan was just written poorly, he was sabotaged. I always felt like the Buu Saga was a bit weird when it came to Gohan, and now I get it. Gohan was set-up to get jobbed over and over again once the Great Saiyaman Arc was a bust. I think I feel a bit warmer towards Gohan now, knowing that there was some hope for the kid. It's too bad all that hope was just for the market, and not for the character.

It's a tragedy of the manga/anime industry that it's so destructive toward its artists. Some of the greatest manga and anime can wind up sabotaged by their own creators when they experience burnout or mental health strain. And it's disturbing how often this happens.

One of the sad parts of Gohan's downfall is that being downgraded to a side character in the middle of the Buu arc didn't have to be as bad as it turned out to be. They could have still used Gohan to stall Buu with Vegeta during the Kid Buu fight since dead people who keep their bodies can still fight on the World of the Kai's. In fact, they could have made use of Piccolo, Gohan and Gotenks during or out of the fight weather they were dead or not. Goku and Shen can teleport people here and there whenever and or wherever the story needed them to be, those who could stall Buu like Gotenks and Gohan (If we go with the argument that Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu, the manga has some weird statements about that which I'm gonna avoid going into) could stay while people like Piccolo and Supreme Kai could go to Earth to gather support for the Spirit Bomb. What I'm trying to say is that there were options available to make good use with the supporting cast without relegating them to essentially being cheerleaders. Maybe Piccolo would have been stuck since he's the weakest of the group (counting Goten and Trunks as Gotenks) Gohan did give energy to the spirit bomb, but I feel keeping him to help with Buu could really have been more help stalling Buu while giving Gohan some action after being embarrassed during the Ultimate Gohan fiasco. As a bonus we could avoid having Goku leaving his sons and Piccolo to die on earth while Vegeta returns without grabbing anyone. That was ultimately needless drama (for reasons I explained earlier) which in the anime (assuming the Manga covered it, and this drama wasn't filler) featured Goku agenizing over the mistake while Vegeta yelled at him only for the very next episode to treat it as if that scene never happened, it had some serious tonal whiplash.

This is why future Gohan will forever be THE GOAT!!!!

It is genuinely insane how good your pacing, editing and overall presentation is in these videos. As far as anitubers go, you're the best and it's not even close That by itself is great, but it's the fact that your arguments are interesting, well-reasoned and justified. You make good points and back them up with solid arguments. I don't always agree with your points, but it's still interesting to listen to you talk. For example, I do legitimately think Super Hero Gohan is good, but it has very little to do with the writing, but characterization. Gohan has always been fairly mild, and there was very little to him other than "duty" as you put it or Toriyama's forced attempts at pacifism. Super Hero reframing the character into this nerdy, even slightly ditzy scientist/father imbued him with a sense of comedy that matched even Goku, and it better sold the contrast between his current self and transformed self. Now I won't make the argument that Beast Gohan is particularly amazing as a concept, but it does play up that contrast and viciousness with his nerdy and soft aesthetic But yeah other than that, that was a great video. Really nice to go down memory lane

I think they sloppily handled Gohan's role in a different aspect. Gohan should have been promoted to take the mantle but not solely because of his plot-power scaling. They should have developed him as a characterization differently. Its what Future Gohan got right, and what ROF and Super Gohan just don't do. Future Gohan seems like the only version of the character that feels right. That they got right. Not because of power, but from personality. The traits we like from him. Not being a clone of his dad but inspired by him. Which I think is a wasted aspect of him. Because Toriyama wanted to reemphasize that to him Goku isnt meant to be a righteous hero, because he's supposed to be just a simple guy who likes to fight as a Saiyan. But Gohan is not a Saiyan. He is part human and as a human side, he more so than Goku should be the character that wants to fight for justice, to defend others, because he is raised by an earth mother and his character already shown it with why he became the great Saiyaman. If anything Gohan should have been the character to be that righteous hero character because of his human side, but Saiyan power. Its just such an odd missed opportunity and miss-use of character. Because unlike Goku, Gohan in canon actually has these traits Toriyama didnt want for Goku. Gohan should have been the one more like Superman with the morals of an Earththing but the power of an alien.

Honestly Toriyama *might* have gotten away with the whole slice of life stuff during the buu arc if he just had some build up towards it same way og db had build-up to becoming a fighting manga

Loving Dragon Ball means accepting it really does kind of stop being good at some point.

I’ll say this again, Akira Toriyama never liked DBZ. He ALWAYS resorted to a more chilled out OG Dragon ball storyline because he loves writing comedy.

Literally, gohan who fights to protect and enjoy a little battle would have been COMPLETELY fine. Because it sets up to where gohan can enjoy his life, have some fun and a little bit of gags and actually live normally but when put into a dire situation he knows when to stop playing around and fight for justice. It wouldn't set him up to be weak as he knows hes the few last lines of defense, he knows he can't slack off, he knows when to be serious, and yet still is able to have fun in school, become the great saiyaman and enjoy his life. Basically what im saying is, if only gohan kept up with his training as well as pulling the trigger sooner, it would give us the perfect set up for gohan to be protector and fight aswell as focusing on the time where he's not so that toriyama has room to enjoy the gags. But when its not gags, its serious.

Honestly, I wish Gohan stayed as the new protagonist of Z because he earned it and for it to be unceremoniously taken away from him is just sad. He could have retconned the "I'm a pacifist" part like he retconned Gohan mirroring Goku and people wouldn't care because they'd get the Gohan they wanted.

This video made me think about some things I didn't noted before. You certainly did a huge search job to do this video, trying to understand how Toriyama was thinking and how he wrote Gohan the way he did. Nice job!

Toriyama projected himself into Goku from the beginning and Gohan represented his real life son who was born around the same time Gohan was created. At some point he decided he didn't want him to be the protagonist of the story. I've a feeling something in real life caused that tbh. But we don't know much about his real life to draw from. Something tells me it wasn't good though.

How does toriyama ruin the father and the son??😂😂

Really wish we got more Gotenks being taken "seriously" instead of being written off as a complete unimportant gag. Dragon Ball needs a bit of humor and fun, it is at it's worst when it takes itself too seriously. The last 2 arcs of the DBS make me feel it the most.

Been waiting for this one! Great work as always man! Edit: Bro this is probably the best video I've seen from you. Not only is it informative, but it's HILARIOUS. 😂 Toriyama did Gohan SO dirty in the Buu Saga it's crazy! We need a PART 2 Immediately!

I always wanted more Gohan-in-school shenanigans. Videl was such a great and fun character, too! I loved their dynamic the most. I'm sad that those parts of the story were cut short to favor Goku all over again.

I wonder if there's a timeline where Dragon Ball became a generational manga where the torch gets passed on and on through generations, where Gohan didn't get done so dirty like this.

Always thought the pacifist thing was weird especially since he did that whole monologue about being stronger and not letting his friends down in the hyperbolic time chamber

You even forgot to elaborate that the moment Buu absorbs Gohan, who is supposed to be the strongest single individual character in the series at that point, he doesn't even go five seconds without getting his ass beat.

I always really enjoyed Gohan's adventures as the Great Saiyaman. It showed his passion for justice, while also his love of peace. It was much more consistent with the Gohan we knew all along, finally free from having to sacrifice his life and with a chance to have some fun being the hero. Shame it only lasted a couple of chapters and a handful of filler episodes.

Honestly I don't think Toriyama was ever "done with" Gohan, because Tori never was "with" Gohan in the first place. Gohan's role from the very beginning was to act as a plot device to stall until Goku showed up to beat the villain. Gohan's hidden power was used to knock the villain around a bit to buy time until Goku could arrive, and then his role was over. It wasn't until the Cell Games that Gohan did much of anything, and that might have been the most "with" Toriyama ever was with Gohan. Then the Buu Saga has Gohan slipping back into the exact same role he did before the Cell Games, being used to stall the villain until Goku could beat them, which is exactly what happens.

Tbh; I just saw it as Gohan being “a kid” and Toriyama injecting some random realism into the character since IRL nobody who’s sane would like to kill someone, and Gohan knew clearly that the confrontation against Cell would lead to death. So again, IMO Toriyama just wanted a “human” in the story and gave Gohan the same values as any basic student.

i think Toriyama wanted to use Gohan to make Dragon Ball a slice of life comedy but studio and fan backlash lead to what we got because Toriyama was butt hurt people did not like what he was doing he took Gohan and destroyed him just to shove it in the faces of the studio and fans because a lot of us wanted to see the torch get passed on to Gohan so Toriyama made sure it never could by making Gohan a joke character

I wonder if the fan backlash against Gohan taking over as the protagonist after the Cell saga led to Toriyama pretty much going "fuck it, Goku wins via ass pull every time now"

Gohan definitely would've fit better as a 'superhero' archetype, like a Superman figure. Superman doesn’t relish fights either, and likes to live along humanity, but he has great power and have no problem using it to fight his enemies and save people.

He can’t keep getting away with this 😭

Starting with Humming the Bassline has immediately hooked me.

Nice video brother, I love how Toriyama light heartedly wrote the Buu saga, man was like "F everyone, Imma do this my way". Just goes to show that we shouldn't take Dragon Ball all to seriously.

I still have hope in a Gohan real return. I would watch Gohan paying taxes or studying like a lo-fi video for 10 hours. Please give me back my boy.

Interesting video. If I was asked about the assassination of Gohan I would have said Buu Saga. Being able to move super fast and missing the earring, losing in a stupid way . . . IT always felt like that was the moment or week when Toriyama decided Gohan wasn't going to be a new MC.

I liked pacifist Gohan. I think it would have been great to see him as the main character one day, picking up the mantle as Earth’s strongest warrior once Goku and Vegeta are gone. He’s noble in that he fights to solely protect others even against his own interest. And that internal conflict could develop his character further.

26:38 Small Correction, but Gohan *did* use SSJ2 again against Dabura He kinda had to. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been able to keep up with the guy since Dabura was a Super Perfect Cell-level threat. It makes no sense for a Gohan that got *weaker* since the Cell Games to go on *even ground* against a Super Perfect Cell-level threat as base Super Saiyan. If Gohan got *stronger* during the 7-year timeskip, this wouldn’t be an issue. But since he didn't, then he'd need SSJ2 to go even with Dabura. Plus, Lightning doesn't stay in the character forever, just in Power bursts for the most part. Laughing Stock Media made a great video about this topic, i highly recommend it Edit: That Smile Bomb AMV of Gohan, though. Can we have a full version of that? That song fits Gohan really well, which is surprisingly

that cell crotch shot killed me.

I honestly believe Toriyama’s original vision was to graduate out of Shonen and bring the once young now teenage audience to regular adult anime…but his editors was like nah

Thank you, what you are explaining here of the first time that Toriyama does this too Gohan, it's what i notice after re-reading the manga a few times and seeing the analysis videos done by MistereFusion, if you have the chance and you have not watch those videos, watch them they are amazing. But Toriyama has moment where he doesn't know how to write the characters to do what he wants them to do without going out of character... Which there are way he just couldn't come up with them because he writes by the set of this pants. He does the turn the characters into puppets and put them audio boxes that makes the characters move to his will instead of their will. Like Goku not going to Gero telling him "I know you are planning something in 3 years, don't do it, we will be watching you". Losing him through technobabble and then you have a reason for everything going to the bad in the Cell Arc...

Bro this might be the greatest video essay on Gohan, not repeating the same tired arguments at all, I’ve seen one dude say something similar but not as enjoyable to watch as u. Subscribed.

This is a Hot Take and Goku Dragon Balls Spirit Bomb against Kid Buu is the peak ending to the Arc but lets be real, Gohan as Great Saiyaman, Videl and the Saiyan Kids versus Babidi Forces with Super G.Saiyaman vs Buu would’ve been amazing

A 40 minute CAGE video is just the christmas gift I wanted. Thank you, Mr.Explains. You're the narrative hero we needed.

Hearing someone else naming Mr Satan Hercule is so cathartic. High five.

Just wanted to say that the editing was freaking fantastic during that video.

In the cell games I think you are overlooking a couple things regarding Gohan’s character. In all of Gohan’s previous fights he was fighting in a group setting, he wasn’t given the responsibility to save everyone like he was during the Cell Games. Gohan always had a crutch of relying on his father, now that he doesn’t, this is completely new territory. Also, Gohan’s pacifist nature while maybe not outwardly foreshadowing, I wouldn’t go as far to say it’s out of character for him. In all of his previous fights, it was kill or be killed, he never lived to fight the main antagonists unless he absolutely had to. At the end of the day Gohan isn’t the same type of warrior that Goku is.

This is probably your best video yet! I love the way you used specific panels and scenes from the manga/anime along with the quotes from the interview with Toriyama. It comes together to form a strong argument that feels academic in research but delivered in a way that makes for great casual viewing! Also, I have a massive Gohan bias so that also helps. Also, do you have a link to that interview with toriyama? I'd love to read the full thing, it looks really interesting.

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I always wished Ultimate Gohan had the SSJ green eyes. That would have been sick

While gohan didn't like fighting like goke, he didn't hate it either, so him suddenly hating to fight was just a plot pull for cell fight and to kill goku, the kid attacked freza in namake when freza was the more terrifying villain in his time, this pacifist crap that the fan base came with didnt sit well with me.

I agree with you Gohan is one of the saddest stories of a character being dumped on by his writer. I think Gohan's pacifist moment stems from 2 things 1. His heightened emotions during a big event and his desperation to make all the conflict stop and 2. Android 16 remember 16 and Gohan start to become friends before the Cell games so I think 16's pacifism and nature loving attitude rubbed off on Gohan which could have worked out but ONLY if Gohan had become more like future Gohan in the Buu arc. After Android 16's and Goku's sacrifices Gohan should of been full of guilt neither of them needed to die if Gohan had been strong enough this should of spurred Gohan into becoming a more serious but still somewhat goofy, nature loving, justice serving hero and yes he should have been the protagonist moving forward that would have given Dragonball SO MUCH potential moving into Super but instead now Super is just mostly a retconning, nostalgia dependent, mess of a continuation but if Gohan had become the main character it could of done a lot more. I also agree that his and Videl's relationship isn't really given the time that's needed yeah we get some scenes of her and Saiyaman plus the scenes of Gohan training her to fly and him giving her a Senzu bean after her beating from Spopovich but it would of been nice to get a few more tender moments between them just so the romance doesn't feel forced and so Gohan has another reason to take this fight seriously and not mess up like he did when he was a teen. Gohan is also just a better hero than Goku maybe not a better protagonist but Gohan is a better hero as you said Goku cares more for the thrill of combat rather than justice but with Gohan that is flipped making Gohan the better hero and I really think the show would have been better off with Goku (and Vegeta) staying dead while Gohan takes up the mantle of protagonist.

I tried to like this video like 3 times while watching all to see I already did. Really nice work - you are not only well versed on Dragonball’s history, but as well as reading between the lines of the series of the little nuances in the writing.

My dude...are you using Urabai Baba to read my mind???? Easily your best video so far and the one I agree with the most (Beast Gohan aside, again, lol), and I already entirely agree with most of your videos. Standing ovation, my guy. Standing ovation.

The false promise of Gohan growing up and surpassing Goku was bypassed by greed for money by Toriyama and the studios and publishing companies

Very well crafted video and I appreciate how you keep it to the facts!

I think Toriyama just hates DBZ and at that point was already checked out.

He’s still my goat, and I’ll never let him go!

The montage of ultimate gohan with the yu yu hakisho theme song was just beautiful my 2 top favorite anime fusing just beautiful 😫😩😫😩😫😩

It was saiyan saga Gohan that made me like DBZ. I dont even like shounen anime, but I kept watching, even through super, waiting for that character to return. How silly of me.

It really is a shame that one of the most iconic moments of the series is just a complete backpedaling of Gohan's character arc, suddenly making him go from someone that fights for his friends to being someone that needs to be spurred on by the death of someone he didn't even know up to that point. You can just feel how unsatisfied Gohan's current characterization is as he struggles to change directions and figure out where to even go from now. As someone whose dabbled in writing fiction, myself, I 100% know that feeling of when you can just tell that things aren't really clicking and you don't know how to really fix things.

Great video, great editing, love the ultimate gohan smile bomb montage (best anime intro song in my opinion). You got a new sub!

Gohan wasn't a pacifist he was just traumatized from his childhood and didn't see fighting as the main focue of his life. The fact he gets mischaractarized as a pacifist is cancer

The back and forth in super with his character is weird too. Like he resolves to train after freeza kills piccolo. Then apparently that never happened because, come the ToP he needs to actually do it this time. I thought that must be because of anime and manga differences and it was filler but then he trains in both versions for the ToP and he's still suddenly weak again in super hero. It's like Gohan's only writing techniques is "He stopped training so he can get a sudden power up"

I will never forgive them for "Green Track Suit Gohan"

Your videos are always fun and bring an Insight I never really see discussed

34:42 Smile Bomb!!?!?!!!!!!!! You’ve earned a subscriber

The real issue is that Gohan has absolutely no development ever since cell. People like to bring up the fact that Gohan isn’t a fighter but forget that threats in db verse are still constantly happening in which it involves at some point gohan getting involved. The proper character development for him going forward is actually him learning how to balance personal and fighting life so he can achieve both and still maintain himself to be a top warrior, he literally has been going off the slack routine 3 times now in which it could have cost him dearly. But here’s another problem, if gohan does this, due to his potential being allowed to help him rival goku and vegeta or surpass them, he’s pretty much the main character for power in which it will eliminate even more stakes. The only real solution for gohan, if we are being honest, is to write him out, I feel with his potential being a massive thing for his character and his powerscaling for the future, it would bring a multitude of problems

I like the effort you put in the visuals, keep up the work! I loved this vid!

Good analysis. Gohan got done dirty. Also I loved the reboot aspect of the Great Saiyaman arc, I wish that could have gone on longer with the occasional glimpse at the powers from the Cell saga. In any event it's a bit ironic that Dragon Ball Super was made into such a slapstick spin on previously serious material. Ironic because Toriyama is not even the one drawing it 😅

im no Toriyama, but he seriously could have put a twist on Gohan's character. Instead of completely dismissing Gohan's potential, he could have built Gohan's character even more with showing that although Gohan doesn't have the leading role aspects, he could have used other means to help Gohan grow into a leading character. Instead of having him not desire fighting, Toriyama could have shifted his character development to needing to be strong to defend those he loves. Like Future Gohan's character, because of his loved ones gone, he had to become strong to defend the Earth.. just me

This channel is great, every video has so much effort and passion in it and the editing is entertaining and well done. I think a good channel for this one to maybe collaborate with or reference would be MistareFusion, as he expresses many similar points about the mistakes of Dragon Ball's writing

Dude, incredible video. Your style is awesome!

What a fun video! The editing, the jokes, the AMV... I wanted to check who sings this version of Smile Bomb, but couldn't find it. I liked the points and opinion, the research was well done, but most of all, you can see he had fun while doing it, with the visual gags and stuff. Loved it.

GT Gohan and Super (Manga) Gohan are the closest thing to those two versions being perfectly balanced characters.

I have always thought that Gohan being a pacist who hates fighting in the Cell Saga was a stupid idea with no buildup.

Gohan as a pacifist (at least against sentient beings and not for purposes of food) in cell saga does make sense to me purely because that was the first time he actually had the upper hand, the power advantage, the ability to kill and his enemy had the energy of his father and his friends and he had to fight alone that's a part too. He also probably gained more consciousness lol.

This video revived an appreciation for DB and DBZ I never thought I'd have again.

41 minute video from CAGE, we're eating good today

Getting screwed over by toriyama has to run in the family

This is a phenomenal video analysis and breakdown. Very much appreciated 🙏🏿

to me the power scaling in DB got completely f**** in the frieza fight, frieza was so strong that transforming for the first time created a planetary level hurricane, getting to his final form evaporated the water of half the planet and messed up the gravity, and the fight between SSJ goku and frieza was destroying the weather, shifting the land itself and creating volcanoes... cell absorbing 18...caused an earthquake...and some wind i guess...

I really, really love your analysis videos.

I do belive that Toriyama should have kept up the course and continued to write Buu saga more as a slice of life with the world martial art tournament serving as the send off to the series with Goku and Gohan fighting in the finals with Goku now officially handing out the tource to Gohan. Would have been a much much much better for Dragon ball franchise in long term.

I love how you use Dragon Quest music for your videos. It's fitting as it's another series Akira Toriyama does art for

I think there are many reasons why Gohan as a kid in saiyan and freezer saga was willing to fight; among them because he is a more impressionable kid, because there was no other way, it was to save the earth (saiyan saga) or social pressure (ginyu force fight). Against Cell at least Gohan in SSJ 1 was stronger, therefore he felt in a position of superiority and it was feasible to attempt a dialogue, there was nothing at stake (until Cells Jrs. There was a hesitation, that A.16 pushed/influenced to make the decision). So, out of character it wasn't that out. Then looking outside the manga to see what Toriyama was cooking, I liked it just so much. It was a good video bro. Happy new year

Gohan always had someone there to aid him in battles that he had no choice but to face and it was always out of preotecting his frends, but when your 11 years old and suddenly put on the spot of a big responsibility such as killing an entire villian that you expected your dad to take care of, of course he was going to get cold feet. Piccolo said that Gohan mostly drew out his truw fighting insticts when he was pushed to the brink

Bro your video is top notch, Masterfully done 😎💪🏾 keep it up

I enjoyed this video I liked the deep dive into dragon balls history as well to set up the problem with toriyama’s writing

@5:36 This guy’s spittin. A lot of the Cell and Buu arc writes characters specifically to get a result in the story, vs what would more naturally/logically happen as established by the story. I like DB, but the writing isn’t as tight for me to claim this and that as “PEAK ANIME”.

Wow that was a super well done breakdown. I don't have any real critiques or disagreements. I don't agree 100% but I can't disagree either. You make really good points drawn from Toriyama's own statements and actions. We definitely know that Toriyama is more a writer by the seat of his pants than a planner. I think I'll subscribe for part 2 even though I really enjoyed Super Hero (but likely won't disagree with your criticisms).

This is the BEST video I've seen on the subject.

I still think Gohan could've worked fine as the protagonist even when Toriyama wasn't able to get away with the non-battle-based reboot he wanted to do. He threw the baby out with the bathwater by going back to Goku.