The Cheapest Gaming Laptop with 12GB VRAM!
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AMD’s RX 6800M is the cheapest laptop GPU with 12GB of VRAM, but how does it perform in 2023? We’ve tested it in 24 games at 4K, 1440p and 1080p resolutions to find out!
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Timestamps:
0:00 A Cheaper 12GB VRAM Laptop
0:33 Video Sponsor - Newegg’s FantasTech Sale
1:04 Laptop Specs & Price
1:38 24 Games Tested (4K, 1440p & 1080p)
1:54 An Example Where 12GB VRAM Wins - Far Cry 6
3:09 Is RX 6800M 4K Capable?
3:33 Red Dead Redemption 2
4:02 Ray Tracing - The Witcher 3
4:35 Cyberpunk 2077
5:16 Forza Horizon 5
5:55 Another VRAM Hog - Watch Dogs Legion
6:25 24 Game Average Difference - 1080p
6:46 24 Game Average Difference - 1440p
7:01 24 Game Average Difference - 4K
7:17 Is RX 6800M Still Capable for Gaming in 2023?
7:25 6800M Worth it for 12GB VRAM?
7:47 Is 8GB VRAM Enough?
8:17 6800M Negatives
9:06 A Better Alternative to 6800M?
10:12 Where the 6800M Still Makes Sense
10:26 How Much VRAM Do You Need?
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@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
If you want more details on the RAM I tested with, it's the same kit I used 2 years ago in this video with the 6800M: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/br5zmKSVq9fXe5s.html so 1Rx8 in dual channel - an upgrade over the stock x16 stuff, as I think this should be done for optimal 6800M performance. 4:03 The Witcher 3 graphs saying RT was disabled on the graph is wrong, a copy paste fail from other graphs. It was definitely tested with the RT preset.
@mohanadaqadaqad 11 ай бұрын
I saw that video, it's very helpful and guided me to upgrade my ram, thanks for your efforts jarrod 🙏
@mironescu28 11 ай бұрын
I have watched the entire video, the previous one as well, and others, in this one you did mention that u used the same RAM upgrade kit and an external monitor, how come from an laptop that was neck in neck with 3080 165W, now can't even get higher values than 3070?
@vatsxn511 11 ай бұрын
I see people missing out on the screen as well, I don't see any gaming laptop in this budget having such a great screen with 100% DCI-P3. I understand that 3070Ti and a 4070 would be better for some workflows but those would be quite expensive and you may need an external monitor as well still.
@pedramghasemi5433 11 ай бұрын
Hello Jarrod. Which one have better display quality and cooling system : Asus strix g16 rtx 4060 or acer Helios neo 16 rtx 4060 ???
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
@@mironescu28 We didn't test a 3070 here, but perhaps it just didn't age as well for other reasons.
@tandintshewang2532 11 ай бұрын
I bought this laptop after watching your review before a month. I wanted to go for 4060, but the price difference in my country was 300$. So, I went for 6800m. Love it. Thank you for reviewing it again.
@camehill4399 11 ай бұрын
Bought this laptop 2 y ago and im still using it, no issues whatsoever. Overall great machine for gaming even at 1440p
@XxViciousxX 11 ай бұрын
Been loving my G15 Advantage had it over a year with no issues. Glad it has the 12gb if VRAM if it only had 8 i couldn't have played quite a few games now.
@Ange_Guerrier 11 ай бұрын
I watch your vids because i have the same laptop, keep up the good work 👍!
@XxViciousxX 11 ай бұрын
@@Ange_Guerrier Thank you very much for watching and I certainly will.
@axisflight6349 11 ай бұрын
@@XxViciousxXhi vicious i watched all of your vids before getting it yesterday, i have stuttering issue when i playon 1440p res in any game, it gets better when i throttle it,is this normal? Is upgrading ram to 32gb gonna solve my problem?
@XxViciousxX 11 ай бұрын
@@axisflight6349 Certain games can stutter if you only have 16 GB of RAM but most should be smooth. Mine is pretty much always at 96-97c and I don't get stutter (well besides in badly optimized games) but that's not the laptop's fault.
@axisflight6349 11 ай бұрын
@@XxViciousxX thank you so much brother
@joelconolly5574 11 ай бұрын
The only problem with this laptop is that it's not available in my country. Which is a shame considering how great it is. I'll try scouring the outside market to find this if it's available. It's a great and underrated laptop atm.
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
Aw :(
@joelconolly5574 11 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTech SEA man. It has options, just not the cream of the crop 😂.
@greebj 11 ай бұрын
It's not you, AMD laptops are rarely available even in countries they are officially released in
@Jakiyyyyy 11 ай бұрын
Well laptops with AMD GPUs are very rare to find anyway. You will most likely to see AMD CPU but not AMD GPU.
@joelconolly5574 11 ай бұрын
@@Jakiyyyyy true. Closest we got is HP's Omen with 6600M and now TUF A16 with 7600S. It's an inevitable thing.
@carltonleboss 11 ай бұрын
I was wondering how you got 12GB of VRAM for $1000, but then I remembered that other GPU makers exist...lol
@jesusbarrera6916 11 ай бұрын
it's great to see you re-reviewing old laptops as there's not a lot of videos on them and drivers could've improved over time not to mention the 5980HX 6850M refresh has been below $1000 at BEST BUY on their all tie low.... probably the best bang for the buck of the last 5 years
@sownlengoc 11 ай бұрын
not worth it, the rx6800m/rx6850m is the rebranded rx6700xt desktop which was only $230 on sale
@jesusbarrera6916 11 ай бұрын
@@sownlengoc 1- where in the world was a 6700XT $230 EVER? 2- cool, can you bring that desktop into a classroom?
@sownlengoc 11 ай бұрын
@@jesusbarrera6916 1. in Vietnam 2. I know you need a laptop but this is not a clever choice. you should buy a ultrabook, as light as it can be, then you will thank me. I recommend a LG gram 2022
@jesusbarrera6916 11 ай бұрын
@@sownlengoc ah yes... An Ultrabook for arquitectos and 3d designers Thank you genius...
@tekeagle2136 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, try 3D modeling on an Intel iGPU and a 4-core 1ghz CPU. Not great, at least until Intel makes a really good iGPU.
@justinpatterson5291 11 ай бұрын
I find it weird that quite a few laptop variants of desktop cards are usually one tier lower in specifications. Like a 4070 desktop is closer to a 4060 laptop that's overclocked. Edited because people got confused by 2 letters...
@niebuhr6197 11 ай бұрын
Because the dont give a fk about proper naming...
@-_--le3zk 11 ай бұрын
I think you accidentally swapped the laptop with desktop in the gpu names
@soulsbourne 11 ай бұрын
The 4060,4070 and 4050 laptop GPU's don't see any performance improvement above 90 watts ... And at 90 watts 4070 is only about 25% better than the 4050 at 90 watts
@wolfstorm5394 11 ай бұрын
There's no 4060Ti laptop, unless you meant this the other way around
@wolfstorm5394 11 ай бұрын
@@soulsbourneSide effects of being crippled by a measley 128 bit memory bandwidth, Nvidia ruined what could have been an epic lineup
@KouroshFarrokhzad 11 ай бұрын
Super useful analysis Jared, thanks so much for your insightful work. You've really dispelled the myth of VRAM here - at least as far as it relates to laptop GPUs.
@sic308941 3 ай бұрын
love my g15. New ram and 2tb storage with a gaming monitor, and you good to go
@jailsonmoeda4906 11 ай бұрын
it would also be interesting to make an analysis of this laptop for content creators and especially for those who work with design or 3D
@PikanAnimations 11 ай бұрын
I was actually gonna settle with this laptop but ultimately decided to go with building a desktop 3060 due to my limited budget and my softwares' way of functioning with certain gpus but its worth it 👍
@lostskull7467 9 ай бұрын
Wonder if FSR 3 will bring back the 6800M to life.
@shuvamsky 11 ай бұрын
atleast those extra vram will be useful to max/high texture settings in many games at 1440p
@Ekyllier 11 ай бұрын
I bought the 165hz 1440p variant of this laptop last year with a USB-C dock hub and have since sold my desktop. This laptop has converted me to a full-time laptop user.
@Gamex99999 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your experience. I'm not sure right now, but I might buy one if it's fine for me.
@TabalugaDragon 11 ай бұрын
about vram vs raw GPU power: Textures on high quality requires a lot of vRAM. A game with ultra textures with eveything else set to medium would look MUCH better than textures set to medium but everything else to ultra. Texture quality is the most important setting for a game to look good. To sacrifice vram amount for raw performance means to lose the most important graphics quality of all.
@jayclarke777 11 ай бұрын
I agree. What good is all the bells and whistles if you get N64 level textures
@Code_String 11 ай бұрын
It's an interesting unit for sure. I picked up two of these last year for 750-800$ each. There's a couple of things that hold back the potential of the laptop. If one's willing to hunt for deals that are below the 750$ mark nowadays and is willing to get into tinkering this machine, it can be quite a decent grab.
@jayclarke777 11 ай бұрын
You got to steal! Great find
@boristhebear9511 10 ай бұрын
Can you guide a bit on the tinkering part? Any video I can follow?
@Code_String 10 ай бұрын
@@boristhebear9511 Certainly! If you need a point to start, I'd recommend looking into Skii's G15 Advantage Edition Tuning video. There's also XxViciousxX that goes quite in depth with their own unit in various games and subjects related to the laptop.
@shanx5844 11 ай бұрын
Got a Legion 7 2021 model with 3080 16G VRAM and 5900hx after watching the 4060/4070 review, with less than 1500$ in my country, pretty happy with it, especially when you want to run some cool AI model locally, 16G VRAM is very useful.
@Takovacs 10 ай бұрын
I've been using this laptop for about 2 years. Fantastic performance, reliability etc. 100% receommended from me.
@FilipeZancul 11 ай бұрын
Have thia laptop right about your first review! Still doing great with my current games! Probably the best laptop that I had.
@ChutHunter 9 ай бұрын
Have this laptop for an year now, got it for $1100 which is extremely good. I'm not than satisfied with the power of this machine. I play games daily in this @ 2k. Lovely machine❤️
@JayJager 11 ай бұрын
Bro I just bought this a couple weeks ago. Picked it up for 1400 with tax and I love it.
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
Good to hear!
@cruizera2194 11 ай бұрын
Excellent time for this video. Apart from the liquid metal and wifi card issues, it is an incredible laptop!
@jelipebands1700 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been rocking this Amd advantage laptop since release. I play a lot of vr, 1440p 1440hz and 4K 60hz. This laptop is such a beast.
@lordcommander3224 11 ай бұрын
Its a great laptop for the money. I noticed his benchmarks seem a bit lower than what I experience but I swapped out my ram for 32Gb of lower timing stuff. Also - running G-Helper instead of Armory Crate frees up system performance because you can uninstall ASUS bloatware services.
@axisflight6349 11 ай бұрын
Hi, pls do u have any idea why my games are stuttering at 1440p? They run smoothly but i have sudden stutter for 2 sec, i got the same laptop as video
@jelipebands1700 11 ай бұрын
@@axisflight6349 lock the frame rate to 60fps
@lordcommander3224 11 ай бұрын
@@axisflight6349 Thermal throttling in Turbo mode. make a custom fan curve for your video card in armory crate and at 80-90 Degrees make the fans 100%
@cpthuggyface2011 11 ай бұрын
Had this since it launched. I can say the Linux support is great now since AMD drivers are in the kernel + Asusctl.
@cameronbosch1213 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I have a Legion 7 2022 that also happens to be an AMD Advantage laptop, and I've had serious issues with it on Linux; Tails would get stuck on a white screen, as would playing games full screen. Never happened on my Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti laptop or my 4090 desktop (granted, I couldn't use Wayland on my desktop until recently but still), and not being able to fullscreen games is a pretty huge problem for a "gaming" laptop.
@PineyJustice 11 ай бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 Sounds like some other issue since with the same cpu/gpu the g15 advantage edition does not have this issue. What distro are you using? Something else has to be off since linux support on the g15 has been 100% since it came out.
@cameronbosch1213 11 ай бұрын
@@PineyJustice I've tried using Tails (white screens upon boot, but the windows are still there, but I can't see them, likely an issue with GDM) and any KDE Plasma distro (I'm using Arch, BTW 😂) has the same problem when changing certain widgets, theme, or screen edge settings, which is happening on Wayland (which you know, AMD should be fine with). Even a reinstall did not fix the issue, and I havne't tried XOrg for obvious reasons, like the fact AMD *should work on* Wayland!
@cameronbosch1213 11 ай бұрын
@@PineyJustice And even the speakers work in the UEFI and so do performance modes (the latter because I think firmware, not Vantage, manages those performance mode settings). I've never had this exact problem with any other computer, and even a full motherboard replacement (for another unrelated issue) did not cause the issue to go away.
@PineyJustice 11 ай бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 Strange, I'm using manjaro on mine and have had zero issues since day 1, you mentioned you have the legion, I have the g15, does the legion have a mux? That could be where your problem is.
@darcrequiem 11 ай бұрын
Ah, it doesn't have a MUX switch. I was wondering why my 6850M XT, which is only slightly faster in spec, was putting up noticeably better numbers. I disabled the iGPU in my 6900HX and saw a noticeable bump in performance.
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
Yeah one of the downsides of this model, but it is also generally cheaper (when on sale), so I guess I get it.. But yeah anyway to be fair, we tested with an external screen connected to Type-C, so iGPU was bypassed in this testing.
@skz7936 11 ай бұрын
Is disabling iGPU is safe ? My Lenovo IdeaPad gaming 3 doesn't have a mux switch I'm wondering if disabling igpu is safe or not
@adityaunnava4304 11 ай бұрын
@@skz7936 its not. dont do that
@kze_music 11 ай бұрын
@@skz7936 usually disabling the igpu may cause issues as it is like what bridges out the frames to your laptop display. To bypass you'll need to play via a external display as especially the HDMI out of laptops are connected directly to the dGPU.
@skz7936 11 ай бұрын
@@kze_music:(
@Tony-jp4yl 11 ай бұрын
More vram comes handy when you want to install that 8k texture mod for you game.
@casperellison5729 10 ай бұрын
Someone just sold me a G17 Advantage Edition that was lightly-used, was a bit impressed, so watched the G15 AE review and was quite happy. But then I saw this video, hahaha, having mixed feelings. Very informative video, seems like 2yrs have gone by very quickly, even for tech.
@Cars. 11 ай бұрын
Can i ask an important question if i bought a laptop with no windows preinstalled and installed it in any store that installs it with a license will this affect gaming experience????
@azimabdukarimov6091 11 ай бұрын
I didn't understand such a huge difference between this 6800m and legion 7 6850m. RDR2 63fps and 109fps, CP2077 43fps and 60fps. it's even slower than legion 7 6700m
@malc190 11 ай бұрын
thanks for this, i have been on the fence about whether to get the strix or a newer nvidia laptop, going to look out for a 4060 laptop now, i wont allways be using it with an external monitor so the mux switch in a newer laptop will be benificial to me and also in not overly keen on the idea in the idea of liquid metal in a laptop thats going to get bounced around in my van.
@bumbaclot813 11 ай бұрын
Gotta say I have this laptop after upgrading the ram and the wifi card, throwing an extra ssd in it, hooking it up to an external screen. I love it. Don't need the external screen because you can run all the new games at 1440p high setting. If you willing too upgrade the ram and wifi card I highly recommend this laptop. Can't beat that 12gbs of vram unless you want to get that 3080ti with the 16gbs.
@lordcommander3224 11 ай бұрын
Same. Also install G-Helper to replace Armory Crate. It saves a lot on background processes that are no longer needed.
@jayclarke777 11 ай бұрын
@@lordcommander3224Thanks for sharing
@Photo0021 11 ай бұрын
I’ve used this one for almost a year and it’s got to be my favorite machine I’ve ever used. It’s a beast, keeps up with everything I throw at it and more, mainly at 1440p. Couldn’t be happier.
@salzstange6341 11 ай бұрын
You changed it?
@ArymaNAdramelecH 11 ай бұрын
Awesome t-shirt, great Band 🤘🏻👊🏻
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
🤘
@NothingHereForYou 9 ай бұрын
Using a smaller screen I don’t really see playing at 4K worth it for any performance hit. So at 1440p a lot of these games seem to be handling well with just 8vram on a 4070 laptop
@upsidedownpeon9984 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the link, ordered me the Alienware m17 that's half off with the 6900hx and 6850m. Beast set up for 1100ish
@bathong188 11 ай бұрын
One trick I learned from 2-year ownership: your CPU can hit 95-96C playing high demand games (Red Dead Redemption for example), and 70s idle. I went to Windows battery options, and turned off boost for the Performance profile. You still retain great performance but temps are around 10C lower!! Leaving the Turbo profile for when you want max performance (and heat 😅)
@silviu7883 11 ай бұрын
I just use Ryzen controller to set up whatever temperature o want.
@axisflight6349 11 ай бұрын
Hello sir , i got it yesterday exact specs as video, i have stuttering when i play any game on 1440p res, any idea about this problem?cuz im returning it for a new piece soon
@bathong188 11 ай бұрын
@@axisflight6349 by stuttering, did you mean low fps or fps dips? Is your laptop running on AC power? Which performance profile in Amory Crate? Using the discrete graphics card? It's difficult to determine the issue without knowing how you've configured it
@axisflight6349 11 ай бұрын
@@bathong188 done everything u mentioned, fps is smooth like 140-150 suddenly it comes down to 15-17 fps for two seconds.
@bathong188 10 ай бұрын
@@axisflight6349 Aw that sucks. I hope you've resolved the issue by now. I'd try doing a clean install with the AMD graphics driver tool
@pravculear 11 ай бұрын
now i want to see how the old 3070 laptops are holding up in newer games
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
I might be able to get a 11800H + 3070. The data in this graph is kind of new for a big video I am working on (months away) comparing all modern laptop and desktops.
@siyzerix 10 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Can you do a comparison of how nvidia keeps making laptop and desktop parts further and further away since pascal in terms of performance?
@shreyasaaron5438 11 ай бұрын
From what I remember, the old review showed that the 6800M was able to come really close to the RTX 3080 but now it seems to be at like 3070 levels overall which is kinda weird
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
Fine wine in reverse
@shreyasaaron5438 11 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTech but AMD used to be the best fine wine dealer
@siyzerix 10 ай бұрын
Because the rtx 3080 was barely 10% to 15% faster than the 3070m, and is now matched by the rtx 3070ti. And remember, the rx6800m was slower than the rtx 3080 so from the start it was always matched by a full wattage 3070m
@taurmwow 7 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTech which is absolutely not true. You're just using a different set of games with different and more Nvidia-favorable settings. It's especially funny to see how you're comparing DLSS performance on Nvidia with no upscaling on Amd.
@wojciechsokoowski5189 7 күн бұрын
@@JarrodsTech If it's the same unit you used for original review, are you sure it was not throttling? Out of curiousity I benchmarked mine today in Cyberpunk 2077 1440p/Ultra/No FSR and got 50.88 FPS, which is on par with RTX 4070 according to results presented in the video.
@guantanamobae530 11 ай бұрын
Bought one of these with the 1080p 300hz screen back when they first went on sale for $1100 and upgraded to 32gb of 3600mhz ram. I mostly do CAD work in my spare time and my gaming is usually VR (12gb vram
@Code_String 11 ай бұрын
Probably one of the best VR laptops Price/Perf out there. Never thought at first that I'd need the 12GB of VRAM out of an unit, but going from a Dell G15 with a 5800H|3060 to this thing's been something I haven't regretted. I wouldn't necessarily buy the G15 AE brand new now, but I can absolutely recommend the Alienware AE with how cheap that thing's been going for pure Price/Perf.
@Als-vd5vd 6 ай бұрын
You can get plenty of extra fps from this laptop with proper tweaks, for example I have 91 fps compare to 77 on video in RDR2 at Ultra settings
@gatsusagara6637 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. It's great to know that last gen games are still well supported on 8gb cards. Next step, Hogwart's Legacy, Jedi Survivor, TLOU part 1, and RE 4 remake? Surprisingly D4 is a vram hog. Hopefully, the upcoming Starfield is going to be less problematic.
@AKHU412 11 ай бұрын
Exactly the video I needed
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
Hope it helps!
@AKHU412 11 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTech I was thinking this and tuf A 16, I will go with A 16 (for this price point)
@The2Ramseys 9 ай бұрын
Had this for 2 years or so based on your original review. Still have no issues to this day and only paid $1200.
@volcalstone 11 ай бұрын
I got an XG Mobile 6850M XT with my Ally. What a killer combo. Both for only $1,300! I'm waiting until next year to pick up a 4K gamjng labtop. I don't think the 4090M is there just yet. I'm also building a $3.5K-$4K 4090 rig at this time as well.
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
That's a pretty good deal!
@nori6237 11 ай бұрын
Apparently, in some country there are intel A730M with 12GB VRAM. Either way raw graphics capability was only around 3060 mobile level in FS. Yet strangely, Timespy graphics score are around 3070 - 3070 Ti laptop.
@lapulgaencuerayrabiosa9778 11 ай бұрын
I have this laptop, got it in 2021, I've put 64GB of RAM on it, it's a great beast, I run Linux on it and do heavy virtualization, the laptop can handle anything.
@Gamex99999 10 ай бұрын
And you can use all of the 64 GB? It says it can handle 32 GB max.
@LOSERRANODE 8 ай бұрын
It is worth to buy a gaming laptop with 6800m or rtx 4060? Im playing some older games like e sport games and sometimes newer and older games that doesnt support dlss or fsr.
@Collibri 11 ай бұрын
Hello Jarrod , are u planing in future to do some review for Oculink (M.2. to oculink -> to Gpu pcei adapter ? ) for older laptops ? and if it could be good for gaming on monitor at home at 1440p ? if u are lacking GPU on ur own laptop ?> could be better then buying whole new laptop ?
@mrreggiej85 11 ай бұрын
I actually bought it on sale after watching 4000 reviews. Got the 1440 model and upgraded the RAM. Haven't had any issues with it yet.
@mohanadaqadaqad 11 ай бұрын
Same here
@axisflight6349 11 ай бұрын
No stuttering at 1440p res in games?
@mrreggiej85 11 ай бұрын
@@axisflight6349 none yet. Mostly play elden ring, battlefield and Diablo IV though
@joakimjocka8022 8 ай бұрын
Wow , this has solidified my decision to get the 4080 ROG strix 16", the 4080 isnt too far behind that 4090, but the 4070 is wayy behind
@izjoel_9530 11 ай бұрын
Great video as always..i've been searching for a good 18 inch rtx 4080 laptop to replace my rtx 3080 lenovo legion 7. Hopefully u can make a comparison for all 18 inch gaming laptop. Currently eyeing for acer helios 18. But sadly there is no proper review for that laptop yet.
@XBnPC 11 ай бұрын
Man, love my Asus G14 RTX 3060, but it's feeling the VRAM squeeze. I'm Golden with my XFX 7900 XTX @3Ghz and 24GB VRAM at 1.1Tbs+ on PC, but it's tuff on laptops 💯
@HelliotK 11 ай бұрын
Are you sure you are doing this laptop justice as its performance highly depends on its wattage. With proper LM repaste and a decent cooling pad like the Iets Gt500 the GPU can fully utilize 165W in Manual mode and sometimes even crank up to 170W which nets me 11k9 timespy graphic score, equivalent to rtx4070 with 50% more vram. With stock cooling the gpu throttle quite heavily depending on cooling sometimes to only 10k points which is the same with 4060 laptop (the throttle limit is 82c). Ive rocked multiple games in 4k with FSR with decent performance as its in the same tier with the 3060ti desktop with the exception of 12gb sweet vram🍭. Actually bought it 2 years ago based on your recommendation but it sure requires some fiddling to get the most out of it.
@raresmacovei8382 11 ай бұрын
Seeing 4050 matching 6800M in Far Cry 6 is all kinds of wrong.
@Sirkostas81 10 ай бұрын
I bought this laptop 2 years ago , overall i am very satisfied , my only problem with that is that crashes when i use 3d grass on lumion , i have tried new win installation with the latest drivers but still nothing
@jonl716 11 ай бұрын
I bought this laptop on launch, still don't need to upgrade for a while. Prolly wait for 8800m if they ever make that.
@Shmack_ 11 ай бұрын
My desktop ran every game at slightly above 1080p with my i7 8700k W/ rtx. 2070 non super but the last of us showed me it’s slacking with 8gb of VRAM. I bit the bullet and bought the 2023 Razer Blade 16 with rtx 4090 170w with 4k screen. This thing is amazing! Better than my desktop for sure but battery life kinda sucks but now I can bring it with me for work and not bring my tower everywhere
@jayclarke777 11 ай бұрын
The 4090 mobile is nuts! That thing is beast
@mcslender2965 11 ай бұрын
What are the 24 games that you tested? Did you include those VRAM hungry ones that goes over 8gb at 1080p High and above setting like Star Wars Jedi Survivor or TLoU part 1?
@cameronbosch1213 11 ай бұрын
What the heck happened to the 1% lows on the RTX 3080 Ti in Forza Horizon 5?
@kiepur91 11 ай бұрын
Asus AE is the most underrated laptop in recent years. 2021 laptop with 11800 gpu time spy score and 12 gigs of vram. .shame its hard to get now
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
I was surprised how often it went on sale for the last 2 years!
@cesarpena7509 11 ай бұрын
Kinda wish the 6850M XT was part of the comparison, was checking on that alienware
@alwinmt 10 ай бұрын
FYI to anyone interested, you can get a hefty performance boost if you uninstall Armoury Crate. In Borderlands 3, at Ultra, mine went from 74 fps to 107 fps.
@sreenaths6829 9 ай бұрын
What app would you recommend for adjusting fan speeds?
@alwinmt 9 ай бұрын
@@sreenaths6829 I don't use one yet. But I hear SpeedFan is good.
@jayclarke777 9 ай бұрын
That's what I did. I downloaded G-Helper instead of Armory Crate. The bloatware on this laptop was eating performance.
@thecsslife 7 ай бұрын
I bought this laptop used off Ebay for £650 (with 1440p 165 Hz display) and have had no issues with it in the last few months. I use it full time as my main PC, which has replaced my old 9700K/3060Ti desktop. You can't beat the cost to performance ratio. It's better than a desktop for the same money and you get a high quality screen.
@alibzeih930 11 ай бұрын
I bought this laptop at black Friday last year and it's really good
@gucky4717 11 ай бұрын
I would strongly recommend NOT to buy a 4k laptop for gaming, since laptops mid-tier laptops aren't there yet. You have to buy a 4080 or 4090 laptop for enough 4k performance and even then upscaling is a must in many cases...
@typerightseesight 11 ай бұрын
Does amd integrated graphics work like intels? aka boots to intgrated graphics.. uses it until it needs help ect. dumps ram to it. ect.
@XBnPC 11 ай бұрын
I feel like 1080p max settings is still doable on my RTX 3060 laptop most of the time and it's fine. My 7900 XTX can do 4k@60fps+ max all day, but it's using just under 450w at 3Ghz; which isn't possible in small factor. At the end of the day I wish we could get the extra value AMD's offering for desktop PCs on laptops, but that just isn't the case. For now, my 3060 is fine and takes care of my mobile gaming needs just fine. That always changes though. So, I really appreciate your content. It's some of the most useful information available anywhere, very thorough and as unbiased as possible. Thanks for all the late nights and hard work. You are appreciated!
@siyzerix 10 ай бұрын
We have 200w GPU's in laptops during turing with 330w bricks. They came in 4kg 17' laptops. Then lenovo crammed a 180w 3080ti into a 2.6kg 16' laptop with a 300w brick. With a 330w brick I'm sure it can do 200w on the GPU. The 4090 doesn't lose much performance at 250w vs 350w to 400w. So realistically you can put a 230w to 250w rtx 4090 into a thicker 18' laptop and maybe use a 220w to 230w rtx 4090 in a 17' laptop and still retain most of the desktop 4090's performance. MUCH faster than the current ''4090''m.
@pedramghasemi5433 11 ай бұрын
Hello Jarrod. Which one have better display quality and cooling system : Asus strix g16 rtx 4060 or acer Helios neo 16 rtx 4060 ???
@TheWhiteRav3n 10 ай бұрын
bro you consider buying this or MSI pulse 15 i7 13700h rtx 4070 or MSI gp66 vector i7 12700h rtx 3070ti please i need help answer please ?
@enricosernesi2939 11 ай бұрын
Nice. This laptop deserved a re-review. I own one, M6 batch (means still not great LM application). After 18 months i decided to go through the repaste process. Got rid of the LM (tedious). Removed the old thermal pads. Installed new thermal pads (1 mm and 0.5 mm). Applied some K5 Pro. And applied Grizzly Kryonaut, for both, CPU and GPU. And of course the trick to add a nylon washer to each screw of the Vapor Chamber, to increase the mounting pressure. Amazing results. Before: Idling at 67C. Max Temp of 99C, Throttling. After: Idling at 46C. Max Temp 96C, NO Throttling. I have also took advantange and redo the Win 11 install. Did not install Armoury Crate at all. And using GHlper instead. Perfect. Running Bios 316. I have some PTM 7950 available, but i am very fine with this config.
@axisflight6349 11 ай бұрын
Hello , i got this laptop yesterday, 16gb ram default, i have stuttering issue when i play games on 1440p resolution, any idea about that?because Im Returning this now for a new piece
@enricosernesi2939 11 ай бұрын
@@axisflight6349 never use Games to test. Use Benchmarks. TimeSpy, Firestrike, R23...
@kickskii 11 ай бұрын
How long can you hold 190w combined load?
@-stxtic- 11 ай бұрын
8 gigs of VRAM is definitely enough for gaming with an RTX Card for the next couple of years as long as its not in 4k, I've played red dead, Forza 5, and a couple of other demanding games on my mobile RTX 3070ti and I have never dealt with not having enough VRAM to play them at the highest settings possible at 1440p, even if at some point it is not enough anymore, that's why DLSS exists.
@killkiss_son 9 ай бұрын
A few years ago we were talking about the number of transistors, after that we started talking about Tflops and now we talk about VRAM ☠️
@MarvismOhGee 9 ай бұрын
I have this laptop and when I try to run Benchmark it’s shuts down 🥺 anybody knows why?
@gennavandella 8 ай бұрын
I don't know why these people keep saying cheap. Only cheap in comparison not cheap at all. You have to look up the definition cheap. Budget gaming laptop is what people are looking for. That's cheap which can be from $300-500 bagging price.
@JarrodsTech 8 ай бұрын
You're going to find it pretty difficult to find a gaming laptop in that price range, especially from within the last year or two. At least without having to buy second hand. The cheapest option we have our deals site right now is $500
@gazzgaspay4841 8 ай бұрын
meanwhile, my potato laptop with a nvidia ge540m just do just fine playing ps1 gba emulators. I would love to try those monster gpu but im too poor to do that lol
@jayclarke777 11 ай бұрын
I got this laptop on sale. I had a few issues with it but the battery life is exceptional. @4:31 interesting that at 4K ray tracing, the RDNA2 6800M-almost matches Lovelace 4080
@TrickOrTreatAZ 11 ай бұрын
This laptop really shines from best buy when on sale, you then look for open box excellent. I got mine for $750. Then upgraded to the 32gb Kingston Fury Impact KF432S20IBK2/32 and a 1tb and 2tb nvme gen 3. For under $1000 you have 6700xt desktop performance and 2k 165Hz display. For under $1000 this laptop will serve you very well considering the current gen prices.
@user-sd4rn2xz9z 11 ай бұрын
Hi, i upgrade mine with same ram kit but my laptop now starting in bios mode every time. I need to manually exit bios every time i start it, then everything works fine. Did you had something similar?
@OldAccountUser 11 ай бұрын
6700xt is like 3070 6800xt is like 3080 4k/3090 1080p depending on the resolution amd performance scale worse at 4k currently. I got a desktop 6800xt and my strix ae 6800m is not that much slower.
@TrickOrTreatAZ 11 ай бұрын
@@youssefadlan I'm not doing deep dive benchmarking like Jarrod but I'm using 3d benchmark and comparing the results from runs I made the last three years including many zen2 and zen3 desktops with 6700xt/6800xt/6900xt and 3080/3090/4090 GPUs. With that basic comparison this mobile part aligns with the 6700xt. The biggest issue I have with all these mobile parts is the blatant deception used with naming conventions. IMO this should just have been called the 6700xt.
@TrickOrTreatAZ 11 ай бұрын
@@user-sd4rn2xz9z sorry I checked and my kit was the Kingston Fury Impact KF432S20IBK2/32 but no I've had no boot issues. Have you flashed to the most recent bios?
@jesusbarrera6916 11 ай бұрын
@@OldAccountUser 6700xt is a little better than a 3060ti, but still away from a 3070 until VRAM kicks in
@10p6 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video. Shame the card benchmarks at a 2080 mobile, or 3050 desktop with 8GB Ram.
@zisx5104 11 ай бұрын
Should i buy this or go for lenovo legion 5 pro 2021 3060 or Asus tuf a15 2022 3060 qhd . For general gaming and use.
@raneeshafernando2837 11 ай бұрын
I played Plague tale requim and many other demanding games like god of war, jedi fallen order, Red dead redemption 2, cyberpunk 2077, Witcher 3, Death Stranding, Horizon Zero dawn, Metro Exodus, tomb raider seires, Both the new spiderman games and many more with 2gb of vram 😂 Nvidia MX350 with i5 11th gen 8 gb ram with meduim to low settings in 1080p resolution
@reignelchavo923 7 ай бұрын
What's the best way to update this laptops GPU drivers? Just use the Asus drivers?(I don't think they update them anymore) Or download 6800m drivers from AMD directly? When downloading the amd drivers, does that affect the smart power feature between the CPU and GPU? I'm looking for the most stability.
@Rightygamer 11 ай бұрын
Not sure which of the AMD mobile GPUs are affected but the 6850M on my M17 R5 was having constant issues with VR. Had to try different drivers through trial and error to get it to work. Even then, I couldn't get a consistent experience as I'd either get constant stutters or a black screen. Outside of VR, it ran most games quite well in 4k on my TV with the help of VRR. Seems like VR doesn't get a whole lot of attention so I don't think this would affect many people anyways.
@TheGintama86 11 ай бұрын
I wanted to buy an alienware but none of them have a a numerical keyboard unless u get thr big ass 18 inch model which is dumb af. Maybe next yeat they might. I really like the design and build on them thou
@clownavenger0 11 ай бұрын
TO me the extra 20ish percent performance boost of the 6850M XT is enough to take advantage of the 12GB of VRAM while the 6800m is definitely on the edge similar to a desktop 3060. the 6850M XT might be what a 3070 with 12GB of VRAM could have been.
@steveco1800 11 ай бұрын
I thought the 6850m XT was just a small boost in clocks. Never saw 20% increase and if so maybe the testing wasn't with a G15 AE 6800m XT connected to the USBC and with x8 RAM.
@clownavenger0 11 ай бұрын
@@steveco1800 clocks are about 16 percent faster. seen the performance boost range from 30 to 10 percent. i don't think any low powered 6850m xt exist so its possible that does skew results.
@kickskii 11 ай бұрын
Consider tuning it It gives that 20℅ you're looking for
@clownavenger0 11 ай бұрын
@@kickskii I just bought it for my sister and she's coming from a PS5. So it's been a huge upgrade for her. 60FPS at 4k in the Witcher is pretty decent for a mid range priced laptop
@silviu7883 11 ай бұрын
in most games im seeing 10 percent at 1440, but it's faster at 1080p by more don't know why.
@harmless-kun 11 ай бұрын
Good laptops are hard to find in my country, especially on the south side and even the older laptop that's not comparable to the latest are so overpriced, i wanted to ask them if they are dropped as a child.
@rameesaliyousuf6219 11 ай бұрын
i brought it.PLS INCLUDE THE benchmark with the rest of the systems
@rmpwnnpwnn1850 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for revisiting this laptop absolute bargain for performance /$. Did you test with the single rank memory or dual rank?
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
I used 1Rx8.
@bairaqarpinker7460 11 ай бұрын
Jarrod, thanks for this kind of videos, but in relation to this video is Legion 7 with 6850m XT 6800H 16GB RAM worth it for 1500 usd (tax included) over this Asus G15 and Dell variant? There is an option to overpay for 6900hx 32GB RAM, for 1700$, but i dont think its worth it since its same CPU just unlocked. Your opinion really matters.
@martineyles 11 ай бұрын
Were all the textures loading properly on all tested cards. From what I've seen in some demos, it doesn't always slow down, but just looks terrible.
@ryankietzmann3299 11 ай бұрын
Hey jarrod I would like to see a review of the 2023 ideapad gaming 3 ideally the rtx 4050 modle
@jackali5014 11 ай бұрын
Looks good
@plastoerectus751 11 ай бұрын
Wanted to get this laptop at the start of the year. But one of the 2 laptops on amazon sold and the only other started to go for 2224 dollars. Now its around 3k lmao. Not living in the us sucks in situations like this
@nicknikes1557 9 ай бұрын
Planned obsolescence in action if they just would have gave you two more gigabytes or even four that would make a world of difference for future proofing and higher resolution but they want you to fork up more money to use it longer or throw it away sooner
@scattysafari7742 10 ай бұрын
Jarrod, how do you find buying laptops from New Egg to Australia? I see some great prices but worry about the warranty, change of mind returns( I had to recently return a laptop to Lenovo cos it gave me eyepain) or it arriving dead on arrival. What has been your experience buying overseas?
@JarrodsTech 10 ай бұрын
I've bought multiple things from Newegg without issue, however, I have not had to return anything, so I'm not sure how easy/difficult the process would be from Australia.
@Kaspaarr 10 ай бұрын
Im now stuck on 1Gb vram radeon graphicks but Im looking forward to buying razer blade 17 2021 with rtx 3080 with 12Gb vram
@arky9002 11 ай бұрын
Hey Jarrod, when can we expect 7600m xt reviews?
@jameslucke1798 7 ай бұрын
Did you plug into an external monitor in order to bypass the IGPU?
@izzattrader7966 11 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see your review on msi vector gp 68hx
@Arutemysu 11 ай бұрын
How much I love the performance of this system, it has the tendency to thermal shutdowns with a room temp higher than 24°C. Not really good if I say so myself.
@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, we've never had any laptop in 200+ shut off due to thermals.
@I_killed_that_beard_guy 11 ай бұрын
24 C is cold bro
@Arutemysu 10 ай бұрын
@@I_killed_that_beard_guy not for room temperature
@Molotov07 11 ай бұрын
I got a Alienware M15 R5 3070 5900HX with 8GB ram i'm playing on a extern monitor 1440p it perform still well but in new games with graphics settings at max (Baldur's Gate 3 for example) I have a lot of fps drop and of course the pc heats up a lot (issue with this model) I think I should turn to a 4080 is that what the Lenovo Legion i7 is a good deal for 2400€?
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