The Cinematic Sin: The Filmmaker's Guide Back to Reality

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The Cinematic Sin: The Filmmaker's Guide Back to Reality

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Күн бұрын

Your video isn't cinematic, sorry. Cinematic has to be the most improperly used word in the filmmaking youtuber world. What does it even mean? All these short 1-2 minute videos titled "cinematic" and it's just a collection of boring streetscapes or emotionless and meaningless scenes. People actually think having the background blurred out is cinematic. Shooting at f1.4 isn't cinematic, it's often distracting and weird looking.
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@cameraconspiracies Жыл бұрын

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@worminstool Жыл бұрын

Where is the homeless man washing kit you alluded to?

@SeanTolan_illuminated_imaging Жыл бұрын

My main complaint was articulated perfectly here. No story=no imagination=NOT cinematic

@into.the.wood.chipper. Жыл бұрын

What if you shoot at 30 fps and have a story? Can 30 fps be cinematic?

@Yupthereitism Жыл бұрын

@@into.the.wood.chipper.no

@Tappits84 Жыл бұрын

@@into.the.wood.chipper. 30 fps wow,. you might as well be doing 120fps, and if its not filmed in 3D its not even real. everyone knows 1 frame per week is the maximum framerate.

@orangejjay Жыл бұрын

@@Tappits841 frame per week and only if you can tell everyone there's maximum B O K E H .

@SMGJohn Жыл бұрын

@@into.the.wood.chipper. What if you stopped caring about cinematic and just had good lightning, audio and a damn good story to tell, to hell with the cinema.

@andrewbaxter9395 Жыл бұрын

Toneh is for people on Teams calls who are embarrassed about their house. Decorate your home, it’s cheaper than a lens.

@vincentsolon3216 Жыл бұрын

hahaha so true!!

@dkkeyz8815 Жыл бұрын

Cinematic is not a shot or a special FStop, it’s a chain of shots that combined together pull the viewer out of their world and into yours. It’s a well planed out sequence. Not a camera, lens or LUT.

@azuki2919 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@s1opp Жыл бұрын

The Cinematic Triangle: Blurry Background, Black Bars & 120fps B-Roll Honourable mentions; Aggressive colour grading, fake lens flairs & lo-fi background music. KZfaq scrubs of the World unite

@zaczerlany-band Жыл бұрын

@@Dar1usz depends for who that is "outdated", it still looks more inspiring than raw vhs style video it's more about too long shots and slow-motion to make it "more inspiring" if each shot would be like 5s max nobody would see its a fake

@mattcarlson12 Жыл бұрын

I hope Phil Bloom watches this. His toneh addiction is real. Last video his ear wasn't even in focus. It's... distracting.

@RedBlackFilms Жыл бұрын

I've learned that pursuing the maximum amount of Toneh is a side effect of not having a great location. I've come to prefer shooting everything at f/4 and above, only going wide open when I want to utilize it's characteristics for specific things.

@derricksmith3138 Жыл бұрын

"You're not a movie bitch!" I can't stop laughing....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@365ayear Жыл бұрын

I'm honored that KZfaq has been recommending my one minute video content to you 🤭

@EvanLindy Жыл бұрын

Stay golden Tonehhh boy! Best camera channel on the tube!

@charliejg Жыл бұрын

Good Morning my cinematic friend! Ha! Just as you said "it's all blurry, what happened. A KZfaq said it would be cinematic", an advertisement jumped in for the Google Pixel and it's "cinematic blur"! LOL! This point you're making is spot on by the way. If you're vlogging don't you want to show where you are? Yes, it is! A nice extra as you know, is that when you stop down you increase your DOF and zone focus becomes easier making it more likely you are in focus. Loved this gem of a video. You use silliness to teach. That is good. Have a great day!

@VinnieCamilleriMusic Жыл бұрын

These are the brighter parts of my day watching these, I'll be your friend 🤣🤣🤣

@sunflowerdeath Жыл бұрын

Soooo cinematic! So filmic! Really painterly, dreamy bokEh! Such subject and background separation!!!

@petersuvara Жыл бұрын

Why, oh why, doesn't SONY add focus breathing compensation to that damn A7SIII, the Zeiss 55mm 1.8 is a glorious lens, only let down is the focus breathing.

@jessecumberledge4530 Жыл бұрын

What makes movies get that 3d look you are used to, is from using long focal lengths. Majority of OTS dialogue scenes are shot at over 100mm equivalent. Most youtubers don't have the space inside and its hard to film yourself at this length, so its not used very often. I have been toying with shooting at 135-150mm for face shots and I am loving the look I am getting. And NO you don't have to stop down to the minimal T/F stop to get the look you want.

@jaegerschtulmann Жыл бұрын

And nope you got it wrong, the greats like Deakins prefer focal lengths that are closer to the human eye perspective like 40mm. Lighting, is far more important to achieve the look than the lens.

@jessecumberledge4530 Жыл бұрын

@@jaegerschtulmann Deakin is my hero. Also can't argue with you about lighting one bit. It is and will always be the most important part of any shot ever. But for majority of hollywood the OTS shots are done at longer focal lengths, the compression really gives a 3d look and allow the actors eyes to really come to life. Yes Deakins shot 1917 with a 40mm prime, he didn't want to change much because the movie is supposed to be a ONER and he didn't want the distortion change. That said there are director and DPs that prefer wider angles. I have no problem with that. I still stand by what I said. If you want a OTS closeups you should experiment with 100mm+ focal lengths. Its kinda like a cheat code for depth... but like you said you can't cheat lighting!

@iambenlerner Жыл бұрын

We need more cinematic interludes.

@jpsteiner2 Жыл бұрын

This should be the first video in Cinematography 101. Great humor. More Samyang!

@JoATTech Жыл бұрын

Most movies are shot at F2.8 on S35 sensors. So DoF is more than F4 on full frame. They even close to F4 and sometimes to F8/F11. Cinematic F1.4 :D :D :D I got the same recommendation ("Cinematic" clips shot on XX Camera).

@KurtGerster Жыл бұрын

Finally!! I've already lost all hope to see another toneh video.

@TobbyTravel Жыл бұрын

I love how you always pick such relevant and fun topics. I'm one of those 'cinematic' Sony vlogger guys. Thanks for the laughter.

@offgrid-bound 11 ай бұрын

Dude, next time I am in T.O. , I want to take you for a drink. I can only imagine how much your humour and sarcasm looks like after a pint or four… 👏👏👏

@thissidetowardscreen4553 Жыл бұрын

I don't know what I just watched, either it was so beautifully cerebral and beyond my comprehension or a desperate cry for help? Either way it was gosh darn entertaining! Thanks Kasey!

@TaoCovillault Жыл бұрын

"Luckily it's the friend we've met along the way that... I MADE NO FRIENDS !" You killed me, as always 🤣

@MutantSnowCone Жыл бұрын

You had me at 8 Tonehs in the bedroom.

@raedchen1 Жыл бұрын

well. i NEED that 0.95 or 1.4 wide open. because i am doing pics and clips at party, event, club, concert. so the background blur saves me work to blur faces from ppl. that don`t want to be on picture. 🤷‍♂also i need every piece of light i can get at night. so there is often no alternative for me - i have to shoot wide open or at least f 2.0..

@Zacheldridge Жыл бұрын

That sweet jerky focus breathing around 2:30 is very cinematic.

@FelliniMotorcycle Жыл бұрын

Please make an idiot’s (photographer’s) guide to video-making. I’m a 2nd rate photographer trying to smush together 3rd rate videos for an anemic KZfaq channel. You’re smart enough, trustworthy enough, funny enough, and handsome enough to make it happen. Seriously...

@phylumofthefree Жыл бұрын

i got an old zeiss distagon 35/2 - that thing is magical. wont ever get rid of it.

@SpaklesDr Жыл бұрын

if a focus pull were possible with a one man crew that would solve the problem. Get the background established then focus on the subject. Truly cinematastic. Also it all depends on your goals. If your goal, like many vloggers is to assuage your raging narcissism, then of course you want everything else obliterated in the background so that only your beautiful face (the only important thing really) is in focus.

@mrolibuilt Жыл бұрын

well put and good observation on the narcistic element

@sotocine99 Жыл бұрын

Now my mind is blurry.

@effystrip2480 Жыл бұрын

I've seen toneh addicts that blur out so much of the shot they end up blurring half of their subject as well, like food shots.. half the plate is blurred out. If seeing that doesn't give me a confidence boost in my own ability then nothing will.

@phlomix Жыл бұрын

"I'm leaving, how you doing?" wish I could say stuff like that

@bubbles581 Жыл бұрын

I do love the 90mm macro. That lens pretty much lives on my camera.

@blackbugmedia Жыл бұрын

I really think f/2.8 is the magic number. Anything shallower than that is just unnecessary in most cases. It’s almost like Canon knew about this before they made the 2.8 zooms 😂 lol.

@wakkowarner8810 Жыл бұрын

Anything lower than f/2.8 means you need to add more light to your scene to get proper exposure

@haak737 Жыл бұрын

The birds passing by at 10:23 where very cinematic...Cormorants?

@EricCalabros Жыл бұрын

Best educational video that I wateched this month.

@ina00203 Жыл бұрын

In my opinion shallow depth of field has to be chosen under the circumstance of its requirement to support the storyline, or a specific look that film maker wants to create. Not all the shots with fully opened aperture looks great, but we can guide the audience eyes to what is important in the frame. Shows like Euphoria utilized shallow depth of field to its best. Good video bro liked it very much. Your contents are fun to watch

@igorvuk4454 Жыл бұрын

love you content, hate the sandals

@igorvuk4454 Жыл бұрын

❤

@j-smack4147 Жыл бұрын

Me an my cheap kit lenses never have this problem

@joedlafferty Жыл бұрын

Your videos are like cheese. I know it’s bad for me, but I’m drawn to consume late at night, and I just want more. And it gives me dreams, occasionally nightmares.

@christinasmith9032 Жыл бұрын

I like the *slightly* blurry background.

@ChadsGarage1 Жыл бұрын

I stayed for the thunder lilies.

@JoeMischiefGXC Жыл бұрын

Thunder Lilies are go!

@JoeMischiefGXC Жыл бұрын

@@arkphotog If we all wish hard enough they will exist.

@ericaceous1652 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, it's nice to have context, and backgrounds provide that context

@DelmaRaySmithJr Жыл бұрын

While pursuing the perfect camera Dipswitch discovers the perfect therapist . . . (hint . . . It's the Music).

@JoeMischiefGXC Жыл бұрын

Tom the caveman invented joy in our hearts…

@JKastle007 Жыл бұрын

I wish Thunder Lilly’s existed

@nicksavage4763 Жыл бұрын

CLEAN T-SHIRT WITH NO WRINKLES 🎊 YOUR GIRLFRIEND DRESSED YOU TODAY 😎

@martinhommel9967 Жыл бұрын

Great vid. Thanks

@cuddlebear34 Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO, finally someone says it.

@rodneytatum6920 Жыл бұрын

A lot of problems can be solved by asking why. Context can keep people from saying, "I need a wider angle lens so I can get everything, but I want a 1.4 so I can blur out my landscape view because someone told me it's cinematic." When the fundamentals of, a time and a place for everything, is seriously lacking.

@sbeckmesser Жыл бұрын

Loved the Mary Tyler Moore hat toss at 3:05. If not cinematic it was definitely sit-com-ic.

@NoName-rg3np Жыл бұрын

I like to think of earth as a giant cd and the sun as the laser that reads our disc.

@georgedoodle212 Жыл бұрын

Got to love the "cinematic" shots at sporting events too. I love seeing the player come in and out of focus and all the spectators and rest of the team blurred out.

@chrisharris_arizona Жыл бұрын

I laughed, I cried, and then I subscribed.

@dougfoss1372 Жыл бұрын

The "Cinematic Interlude" was pure gold.

@rapauli Жыл бұрын

This is one of your best, most instructive videos. Thanks.

@intersportasia9521 5 ай бұрын

5:35 davinci resolve will also give it to you if you understand how to use masking, exposure and maybe sometimes with moderation: vignette.

@carlosamat Жыл бұрын

again, clever and funny as hell…

@raytaylor4199 Жыл бұрын

Try the Canon RF50 1.2 or the RF85 1.2 for 3d pop whilst still being able to see the background, those 2 lenses are in another league.

@harrison00xXx Жыл бұрын

too much elements not enough 3d-pop, they look too clean and sharp, as most modern lenses

@Maebbie Жыл бұрын

come on i needed to see that third eye, if i wanted to see toneh i would stop the video down to 240p

@Moneypizzle Жыл бұрын

Dat poor firmwareless A7sIII focus breathing pain tho😬or at least give an extremely slow/smooth focus setting 😩

@marcelvanbodegom Жыл бұрын

Some dont even dare to leave their house.

@Getoffmycloud53 Жыл бұрын

With depth of field comes the challenge of composition, because you are not hiding anything everything is part of your image and if your composition isn’t right you’ll never have a balanced image / scene. So where a shallow DoF has its place, more DoF requires more skill.

@ShadesOClarity 4 күн бұрын

The Toneh doesn't look bad at your marina location. It's a good location. It looks good either way with the Zeiss. The CN Tower scene stopped down looks better.

@audioupgrades Жыл бұрын

Cinematographers need a lot of skills to shoot cinematic footage. They usually shoot stopped down, rather than wide open. Framing and blocking is part of these necessary cinematic skills and CC is doing that throughout this video.

@harrison00xXx Жыл бұрын

The thing is, with many "cinematic" effects like for example a subject following, any cool perspective changes etc you often have to rely on expensive tracking stuff for example a circular or straight frame where your camera slides smoothly on it and at best motorized. As this one youtuber, i forgot his name, he has his camera literally mounted on a super expensive robotic arm with 4 or 5 axis, allowing ANY movement for even better advertisement and showcase videos than the real manufacturer produced. Or just look at those camera cranes with IMAX cameras on it for hollywood productions etc, thats some serious expense.

@audioupgrades Жыл бұрын

@@harrison00xXx True. Camera movement is a big part of a cinematic look. You can do it manually, but it takes a skilled crew.

@CameraCombo Жыл бұрын

There's one thing about "stopping down"- the toneh isn't quite as good due to the shape of the blades. One more point for M43.

@rtbarker Жыл бұрын

I'm still here for those thunder lillies! Only anamorphic is more cinematic than this, however too many obnoxious flairs are certainly on my list of negatives.

@JoATTech Жыл бұрын

And regarding taking video of people ... I've done some testing and apart of full body shot shooting below F2.8 makes no sense. Because even your subject is not fully in focus. Faster than F2.8 shot might make sense if it makes the story. For example the dream shot at F1.4 or faster lens might add to the story. Or you want to show isolation of your character.

@skyscraperfan Жыл бұрын

Some people even add a fake anamorphic flare to their videos to make the footage look "cinematic". That is like thinking you look like Harrison Ford, if you scratch a scar into your chin.

@bujin5455 5 ай бұрын

This dude is involved in a full scale war against the Toneh.

@Ryanbenitezfilms Жыл бұрын

Imagine going over to your friends house, it's completely pitch black inside and this video is playing on a giant tv, and a man is sitting in an office chair staring at this video intently.

@hyatguy Жыл бұрын

Oh Captain, my Captain!

@barrysoutthere Жыл бұрын

"My God" sounded a lot like Charlton Heston, who was definitely cinematic.

@flugga182 Жыл бұрын

just came here for the cinematic interlude

@SteveAEee Жыл бұрын

I have finally seen the "POP" - was it the Zeiss?

@ParityError0110 Жыл бұрын

ROFLMAO!!!!! "Now we have 8 Toneh's in your bedroom" Say "Hi" to Tom.

@elianmusic7452 Жыл бұрын

incredible. love your down to earth presentation and also i share your opinions on "cinematic" -- ugh. Cheers man

@just_inhawaii Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the longer focal lengths of this one. Kinda tired of the ultra wide look. Personally, I never use anything wider than 24mm.

@SCHOOLOFLIGHT Жыл бұрын

I love you man!

@J_digs_ Жыл бұрын

I love the way you get your points across , id love to hear how you approach your storytelling in like a short film or something, you are very creative 👍

@Chad_D Жыл бұрын

I don’t know how else to say this but I could’ve used more Tonies 😮

@SuperNicktendo Жыл бұрын

This is why I went with the 24-105G f4. I didn't want my images to be super blurry. Also I was finding that even at 2.0 my nose was in focus but my ears were not.

@markifi Жыл бұрын

you could focus on a post-it note

@MaxWright7 11 ай бұрын

The 3d pop is as real as the moon.

@rkivlogi Жыл бұрын

Camera wisdom AND parkour skills? Had to 👍the video

@sashaisaac-young9183 9 ай бұрын

The earth is flat! Omg great video. Too good. Thanks.

@user-wz7nq9pf5y Жыл бұрын

Tip, Bluray Background makes the video file size much smaller. and saving Hard Drives 😁😁😁😊

@dkkeyz8815 Жыл бұрын

I love sarcasm, so I love you. One of the most entertaining and yet sometimes informative too!

@AprilClayton Жыл бұрын

Shallow depth of field bit me in the butt making my squirrel vlog. The cute squirrel was blurred out like a Northrop video.

@mainelyhobbies Жыл бұрын

Jokes on you im watching this on my galaxy s23 ultra at 144p.. everything is toneh.

@WhirlwindDrums Жыл бұрын

Just caught the Tony (toneh) northrup video reference as soon as walked into the lake scene xD

@MarchalisVan Жыл бұрын

if you watch Murdoch Mysteries, which is set in the past. You get a lot of outdoor blurry shots within more open area, as hey use it to hide all the modern things in the background that they can't otherwise hide lol. Saves on CGI budget, saves the watchers immersion.

@-grey Жыл бұрын

Tony 4 is the ideal amount of tonys for cinema. A 16-35 f4 is the perfect lens for KZfaq scrubs.

@harrison00xXx Жыл бұрын

Tony 4 for full frame! For APS-C its like 2.8 for most regular focal lengths and for MFT partially even F0,95...

@TerriblyCinemaddict Жыл бұрын

You forgot to add the link for your Cinematic LUT pack!!!

@cameratool Жыл бұрын

If only there were a way to correct focus breathing in post. But since your "filming" I guess it is impossible.

@johndoane7200 Жыл бұрын

Winter will be here soon.

@ktor538 Жыл бұрын

Dig your humor 👍

@ChillBuilds Жыл бұрын

I never liked those "cinematic" videos people make where things are out of focus and they just show random shots from wherever they were set to royalty free music. It's not cinematic. I would much rather listen to a strange man ramble about toneH for 12 minutes.