"He'd been done for assault..." me: not good "At a funeral" me: NOT GOOD

"She had to quit the police force due to mental issues." Me: Uh oh.

People died and y’all are like ‘Eleanor you look so beautiful »😭😭😭

Eleanor: I like to listen to the audio books while I clean Me watching her videos while I clean 😂

I bet it was Mandy’s rugby friend

Elanor is the only true crime channel that I can watch because of so many reasons *she doesn’t put scary music behind the video *She is SO RESPECTFUL *she tells when something isn’t 100% confirmed *i love her voice *She makes each story interesting and tells it like a movie *she always puts trigger warnings in front of her videos wich I always appreciate *she covers cases from minority’s and POC *she shares charity’s *she is respectful about people mental illnesses I’ve seen true crime people be super rude about stuff like that *she doesn’t put photos of the dead bodys of victims in her videos *she talks about when then police abuse their power

Eleanor: the Welsh language just baffles me Me, Welsh: Understandable

Eleanor: **talking about audible** Me: sis you should be on audible, tf?

My boyfriend, doing an essay: “Is this that murder chick?” Me, being respectful & keeping the volume low: Yeah Him: “Bro, turn it up” I think I’m doing something right😌✨

If it doesn’t end up being the “best friend” who was a FORMER police officer, I’ll eat my own hat.

Not gna lie I wasn’t looking at the screen and when you said David Morris I absolutely shat myself.. my dads called David Morris and was in prison roughly around the time of this and lived only an hour away from the murders. It’s not him but my god my heart nearly failed

My heart shattered when Eleanor said a. The skull was broken into 10 pieces b. The brain of Katie was touched by the murder weapon a few times c. All of them were murdered with the mother being the worst attacked

Police: you guys messed up our crime scene 😤 Firefighters: we are the only reason you have a crime scene🤦

I literally get so gassed when the video is over 30 minutes like LETS GO

Just heard the David Morris has died in prison, disgusting that he was unable to get his appeal and clear his name..I bet there are a few " dodgy" police and ex police officers who are breathing a huge sigh of relief..RIP Dai,you will always be innocent in many local peoples eyes

I’m from Clydach. From the next street down. Katie was my childhood friend. I remember the morning I woke up & heard police sirens everywhere. I remember my dad telling me they all died by a fire that broke out in the house then later on we learned it was murder. I was devastated. My dad has since passed away but is buried in the same graveyard and I often visit their grave. I miss Katie so much 😞 there is a new documentary this Thursday on BBC1 about this case. RIP Mandy, Doris, Katie & Emily xxx ♥️

Also wanna say I really appreciate her talking about all the cases without bias even when it's hard not too. Also talking about the police forcing confessions.

I'm calling it now, it was the Rugby friend.

"Best friend" or lover probably wanted a relationship but she probably wasn't ready for that. I wonder if she felt the kids were in the way.

I love when you say "today we're going to New South Wales" or "today we're going to.." it's like yes yes we are Eleanor! Packing my bags now 🤣

I personally think its Alison her rugby friend. The toy? The no semen found? The SPORT sock? The person knew the house well and knew Mandy's schedule? It's Alison.

It's horrible that anyone died, but the fact that the killer went out of the way to kill every person in the family in an obviously very painful way, is just 10x worse. Poor family..

Whenever I hear that the victim had huge defense wounds and must have really put up a fight against their attacker yet still ended up dead, it just breaks my heart even more because they really tried but weren't strong enough to succeed. Heartwrenching.

“fell pregnant”’lol that saying always cracks me up

eleanor: we’re going to south wales for this case me: *living in south wales* 👁👄👁

you should do a “cold cases solved in 2020” video or mini series

I love how you say "fell pregnant" like it's something she caught like a cold 😂 it's so cute I think!

It always fascinates me how in a large number of these stories, the men will start a family with someone and suddenly decide “they don’t want this” anymore and just leave the mother to take care of the kids. Why do men do this so much???? Jesus Christ.

This was definitely her “Rugby best friend”, she was a former police officer 🤔

One thing I think that never gets spoken about enough is how horrifically traumatic these incidents are for the first responders. I don’t doubt those fire fighters, paramedics and police officers think about this every day. They don’t get half as much recognition as they deserve for witnessing such god awful scenes. Truly heroic.

I live 10 min from Clydach and my mum was called as a witness! Proper spooky

My ex and I used to watch your videos together and when we broke up, I couldn't watch them for about two months. It still hurts- I miss texting them after getting the notification, but I've missed your videos more- thank you for making them so enjoyable. Thank you for doing what you're doing. Keep going at it :)

Eleanor: Uploads Me: Yay, nothing can make my day better Eleanor: ...This video is a two parter... Me: Well, I was wrong...😂

I read the BTK killer book and wrote a report on it for my criminology class I’d love if you’d cover it

My family have lived in Swansea for generations and everyone of my family members who was alive at the time believe Dai Morris is innocent and that the female police officer was guilty. David was just a convenient scapegoat.

I just realised that this was made before the January 2021 update where they're reinvestigating all the evidence and forensics that weren't done at the time and witness statements that were ignored, because there's so much pointing to it not having been physically possible for David to have done, that it makes his conviction incredibly dubious at best. It'll be interesting to see how the investigation continues through the rest of 2021!

The fact that innocent people are in prison angers me greatly

Eleanor: The love of her life Me: He did it then Edit- okay they ruled him out i’m kinda shook

I live in South Wales and I remember this being on the news. Was such a shock to everyone. We often have a high crime rate in some areas but never murder

The way Eleanor pronounced Clydach is adorable. Even though we don’t hear of many murders in Wales thank you for covering this ❤️

Me with a father in the south wales police hearing about it being corrupt: 👁👄👁

Also the David Morris theory doesn’t fit in with the timeline of the gran being killed first and the fuse box.

You should make this videos as a podcast too! I don’t always have the time to be on KZfaq but I can always play things in the background, I love your voice and how you present cases, I love supporting your channel!

Well done for getting this sponsorship!!!! Honestly such a well deserved partnership. Thank you for spreading the word in such a beautiful and articulate way

The key phrase to happiness is "So today's video......."

“Wales” oh my blood country “South Wales exactly” oh shit- that’s where I’m from

Brooooooo that eyeshadow is honestly the prettiest blend of colours I’ve ever seen! Wow!

I just wanted to say, I think not enough people have praised your pronunciation of Clydach! Seriously, for an English Northerner, I'm really impressed.

Can we just appreciate the fact that those two men were willing to run into a burning house to save them😣

Eleanor is keeping us WELL FED with the consistent uploads

As a Welsh girl: “Clydach” is like “k-l-uh-d-ah-*cat coughing up fur ball*”

David Morris ( the guy who got convicted for the murder) has just died in prison. I personally think he didn’t do it and it’s so sad how the justice system is so messed up!

✨She should make a podcast on Spotify!!! I would definitely listen to it✨💯

i saw the kids in the thumbnail and i immediately knew that this was gonna be heavy. thank you for putting so much time and love into your videos, eleanor.

My grandparents live literally around the corner from where this happened. People still talk about this case all over wales

"People were putting stuffed animals outside the house for the little girls" That broke my heart

Omg u look so beautiful!!

this is what the red flags are for me- the murderer had to be strong to cause such violent injuries, and her “best friend” was a rugby player meaning she probably would have a lot of strength. red flag two- a sports sock was found and the best friend was part of a rugby team so most likely owned some.

People leaving gifts is what we called empathy. You don't experience real empathy that often💛

"the welsh language baffles me" same -coming from a welsh speaker

Love that Eleanor is subtlety doing a few corrupt police officer cases lately.

Was going to take a nap but I guess I’ll just obsess over this case instead 🤷‍♂️

after 530 hours of eleanors videos important: don’t make new friends or relationships

you’re such a kind, genuine person. we love you so much eleanor. 🤎

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT ELEANOR AND WHEN SHE’LL POST NEXT AND RIEJDJFJDJD

The age-old method of wearing a sock on your hand to commit murder.

How did the firefighters miss all of these injuries when they tried to resuscitate the family?

Something like that happened in my town in the 20's... a total of 10 people (a grandma, two parents, and 7 children) were murdered in their house while everyone else in the town was at a festival. The youngest child was 1½ and the mum was pregnant.

I'm thinking it was the Rugby friend, maybe unrequited love, but hurting the babies I can't deal with that, too sad.

Eleanor: The South Wales police is renown for the worst miscarriages of justice in the UK Me, living in South Wales: o_o wot

This makeup look is DEF the most stunning you’ve done - suites you perfectly a gorgeous girl!!!!

There are so many people behind dai Morris, even people who didn't even personally know him but are from Swansea, me being one of them. I personally believe this was a police cover up and he was a scapegoat, well I have just heared the sad news that dai passed away Today in prison without ever having his name cleared. Before anyone says anything horrible, please take the time to look into the whole story, and from David's side too xxx

No one: Me: damn, Eye makeup on point!! ❤️

So the crime scene investigators deduced that the grandmother was murdered first and then the killer stayed in the house and even had time to move a tv and fix the electricity before killing the rest of the family yet the police arrest and convict a man that they believed drunkenly killed them in a spur of the moment after being rejected (meaning that all 4 of them would already be inside the house, again conflicting with what the investigators deduced)? Not to mention of course how could someone be that meticulous while drunk. Makes no cents luv

I’m from South Wales and I’ve been to the house I’m really surprised it hasn’t been demolished yet

It was so hard not to cry while you were talking about how everyone was affected and how there were no survivors and especially the part where to cop had to tell Mandy’s sister about the deaths, it’s just so sad to see how their lives got taken away from them probably in minutes, I’m at 14:27 rn but probably from like 13:00 minutes and until the point where I’m at was the hardest to watch

I kid you not, I literally just said in my head the other day “I wonder if Eleanor has ever had a sponsorship with Audible” because I need to listen to a book for school and I want to support Eleanor ofc, and here we are🥺

- “she had to quit the police force because of mental issues” *RED FLAG*

this is so weird to me. my uncle was a very close associate with the family and actually had seen mandy the day of/before her passing. my childhood best friend’s grandfather is in prison for this. very conflicting for me- my family wish persecution upon david morris for the killings as they seek justice for their family friends but my school and school friends have preached his innocence. i’m so thankful eleanor made this video!

They were upset at firefighters for tampering with evidence, but without the firefighters they wouldn't have even had a house to invistiage.

this has nothing to do with this but like i’m literally here after being bodyshamed online, i literally feel like shit but Eleanor’s voice makes me feel better already

this eye look is EVERYTHING

”I’m sure you’ve heard of oddball..” Oddball!? Oh, it says audieble on the screen 😅😂

Rewatching your old vids while drawing, you're always keeping me good company 💓

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS BRUHHH MY STEPDAD NEVER stops TALKING ABOUT IT plus its a very big case from where im from since im near clydach lmaooo

I have a bad vibe about this Alison woman. I did as soon as Eleanor mentioned mandy meeting her.

21:11: sounds like the killer might have forcibly (maybe by chokehold) taken Mandy to each room to show her what had been done to her family, in effort to inflict as much emotional torture to her during her attack. (And the oldest girl wasn’t dead yet...and she tried to get away while her mother was murdered in the grandmother’s room. The killer came out of the grandmother’s room, saw the daughter crawling down the hallway, and finished her there.) I’m sure Mandy was in shock and suffering from trauma, if she, herself, went to these rooms and the killer followed...because I would think instinct/clear thought would have sent her running to the front door...not take the killer to her daughters’ room. But, I don’t know. Maybe the killer said something that made Mandy fear for her daughters...but for Mandy to escape the killer beating her in her room, and, yet again, escape the killer while being beaten in the daughters’ room, to then wind up being murdered in her mother’s room...to me, it just makes more sense that she was taken to these rooms. I am going to be shocked if the murders weren’t done by her rugby friend, because she had fallen in love/became obsessed with Mandy. (And maybe her husband helped, because he cowered to his wife.) -- Now I’m at the part about David. His being the murderer doesn’t make sense, given the crime scene investigation described earlier. Thought they said that the killer killed Delores first, fixed a fuse, killed the daughters, then waited for Mandy to come home. He was found guilty...? Wha....?

He (david) recently died, thousands of ppl attended his funeral, lining the streets for his passing, meanwhile the victims family did all they could to sabotage his funeral threatening venues not to allow his wake, locally a lot more ppl believe he is innocent then guily, poor guy spent the last 22 years of his life in prison for something he very likely didn't do!

This is such a sad case, hits hard especially because my little sisters are called Katie and Emily.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE cover the “house of horrors” case that happened in Nantes, France with the Dupont de Ligonnès family !!!

I love how you say case as like "kehhs," it's really fun to listen to

SO much rage was put into this murder.

I'm from Swansea, and everyone I've spoken to about the case believes that it was Alison Lewis, and that her husband and his twin were involved as well, and that it's a massive miscarriage of justice due to the police's reluctantly to properly look into some of their own. I don't think I've heard anyone say that they believe it was Dai Morris.

Okay here's my theory pre second video: I feel like it's the ex-cop best friend. She'd probably know the house, maybe been over a few times? Perhaps the ex-cop is attracted to women, and falls in love with Mandy, like madly in love. Mandy is perhaps a person who has really uplifted the ex-cop from her mental illness, and so becomes the ex-cop's everything. Mandy tells the ex-cop that she's fallen in love with a man, the first one in years to make a proper impression on her; she's even wearing his old watch or something, perhaps hers had broke and she needed to keep time, or perhaps she was wearing it for sentimental value. The ex-cop becomes enraged, she's furious that the love of her life, her absolute everything, is running into the arms of a man, even after she and Mandy had spent so much time together; maybe even Mandy and the ex-cop had had some romantic encounters with one another, and the ex-cop was shocked when Mandy started dating men properly again. She's massively jealous, the classic 'If I can't have her no-one can' type of mindset. So she goes into Mandy's house; there's no break in, so perhaps she knows where a key is, or knew Mandy had just popped out so had not left the door on the latch. She wears a sock on her hand to keep fingerprints away, she's an ex-cop after all, she knows how to at least cover somethings up. She gets into the house, kills Mandy's mother; she doesn't want any potential witnesses to anything. She then waits for the rest of the household to come back. Mandy gets killed, brutally in the ex-cop's rage. She's then sexually assualted. A vibrator is used because the ex-cop is a biological female. This also means there is no semen anywhere, as a vibrator was used, hence there being none at the scene of the crime. The children are next. Perhaps because Mandy had put up a fight (the defence wounds) the girls had heard something, maybe even seen something. Either way, they couldn't be left alive by the ex-cop, it would be too risky. Perhaps tragically, the children had no idea that anything had happened, and so were taken by surprise when the ex-cop attacked them. The girl getting changed seemed to not know until it happened, whereas the other one had made it to the landing, so perhaps one had clued on whereas the other had not. The ex-cop then knew she had to cover up any lingering evidence of her being there, so she sets the house on fire, she is also very throuough with the clean-up as she knows what she's doing. She knows that Mandy had had several flings/relationship with men, David George being a dangerous individual among them, so she felt as though she would get away with it, as she knew there was evidence of other men being in the residence, whereas to the public and police, she would just be seen as Mandy's best friend. As for the necklace, if Mandy and David had been having sex at some point, couldn't the necklace have been pulled off then? Edit: if the cops in the surrounding area are so corrupt, perhaps they even covered up for an old colleague? We'll find out I suppose!

that was actually so sad :( an attack so brutal it sounds like a horror movie

I mean the firefighters getting in trouble? Would they rather a burnt down house for evidence

Literally jumped a mile when I read the title. I’m from Wales and my Nan lives just outside Clydach🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 such a horrible, harrowing case. Don’t worry about the pronunciation, our language is quite complicated. I absolutely love your videos and professionalism. Thank you for touching on this case X

Straight up I think it was Mandy’s friend. My theory is that they had a partially sexual relationship and either Mandy rejected her or she got jealous. OR It was never sexual between them but the friend wanted it to be

Your make up is freaking flawless in every one of your crime videos, do you record a GRWM video applying your makeup and then record the crime video? Who needs sleep? You’re young, 30 minutes of sleep per day is plenty.

I love watching two part or three part series like this cause it keeps me entertained while I work in bloxburg