That thing is so slow that if it does open going down the road you'll be able to make it where you're going before you run out of oil 😂

The wrong camera falling over really caught me off guard.

Cold oil flows so much slower. One great thing about the Fumoto valve is draining hot engine oil without burning your hand, dropping the drain plug into the pan. Plus, because it's so easy to do an oil change I never go over milage on an oil change. Used them for years on many cars and will continue to use them.

No clue what a fumoto oil valve is. I just like netgear videos.

lemme get that futa valve

CCF tradition, netgear drops his camera in every netgear video.

Action cam, perfect. I can only imagine how many action cam have been used around the house.

The guy proved the value of the Fumoto by simply watching how difficult the regular rain plug was to remove, lol.

I like how you put the F.A.G. bearing box front and center. I'm guessing that wasn't an accident.

I've had Fumoto valves on 4 of my vehicles, some of them for over 8+ years now. No issues to report and I'm all smiles. If the oil is hot (as it should be) the drain doesn't take any longer than normal. My oil is always drained by the time I have the filter changed. The amount of oil left in the pan will be determined by the shape of the pan itself, not the plug.

I got one from a junkyard and put it on my baja. I like it, I’m not too concerned about the time to drain and one really nice thing I’ve noticed is it makes it wayyyyy easier to partially drain your oil. Whether it’s for an additive or just because you overfilled it’s a huge help there. I’m going to start putting my drivers side up on a ramp when I’m changing oil though, I had no idea the oil pan retains so much even on a regular drain. Thanks Net!

We use them on heavy diesel, Cat c12, Cummins ISM/ ISX.. fishing a drain plug out of 10 gallons of hot oil sucks ass, especially when they're brass plugs. Magnet can barely pick up the ferrous ones, they're heavy af. Plus you have to take oil samples, it just makes everything easier.

Been using Fumoto oil drain valves since the 1990s. Love them. The one I put in my new 2007 F-150 FX4 is still going strong in 2024. Never a drip. Put one in, never have to mess with a drain plug again.

yes best type of video right before bed

I think it's fair to call the extra oil leftover negligible. The problem is there's always going to be oil leftover in the engine's oil passages and pump--probably more than 250ml. Even if you warm the engine up, the oil stuck in those passages will have contaminants. They won't necessarily settle at the bottom unless there are pieces of piston ring in there--modern oil is designed to suspend contaminants, I wouldn't expect there to be a significantly larger concentration on the bottom. I think the main concern is time--if you're patient, there's no harm done using the valve.

I’ve got a fumoto valve on my Crown Vic and I love it. I think the design of the oil pan has a lot to do with it too. I put 6 qts in and I get 6 qts out every time. Makes oil changes a snap. I’ll be keeping it.

When I use jackstands to do an oil change, the engine is tilted back so it drains most of that extra oil out anyway. The fumoto valve would make less since for Netgear since he has Quickjacks which keep the engine level with the ground. To each their own I guess

I had a fumoto valve on my old BRZ. It was admittedly slower than using a normal drain plug, but it doesn't drain as slow as it did in this video, probably because of the fact that it's cold oil. I'd probably run a No-spill kit next time. I used to sell them for the heavy trucks, like cummins and caterpillar powered Kenworths. It's a bit better at draining than the fumoto

I’ve had a fumoto valve on my car for 6 years, no leaks or anything. I change my oil every 3k-4k miles. It’s probably not recommended for every car, but I’ve been happy with it.

Nice to see your perspective. My only complaint is the slow drain. But I love the neatness and the not having to torque the drain plug or replace a crush washer every time.

Is the pan at the same angle as it would be in the vehicle? I change mine on ramps or jackstands and the angle is probably quite a bit different on the engine at that point than what looks to be perfectly level on that stand so maybe there isn't that much left in the pan in the real world oil change?

Getting the oil hot really helps. But since I do my changes in the garage the valve does make it a little easier to not make a mess. Having said that, I would usually open the oil and then get the filter swapped. By that time it's mostly already out anyway.

I had a random petcock on a G35 I bought from a insurance auction(pre slideshows), drained pretty quickly when the oil was hot. I think the biggest thing to speed it up is always taking off the oil cap so the air can fill the crank case instead it pulling a vacuum. Hope to see more garage vids in the future!

I suppose if you are using some sort of lift that keeps the pan level, and not getting the oil up to operating temp, then this test is accurate. But when I do my oil changes, I jack the car up slightly higher on one side to force the oil to the side where the valve is. And the oil is hot. Drains quick. Hot oil flows much, much faster than cold, as you know. But it would be a lot more effort to heat the oil up first to the appropriate temp for this type of test.

Even at a tilt some of that oil will stay. If it’s really something someone doesn’t like you can always sacrifice a bit of oil to wash the pan out every few changes if it’s a concern.

I put the Fumoto valve on my Acura TL as it has an aluminum oil pan and I didn't want it to get stripped out again. The dealership stripped it out some years ago and it was 4-500 dollars to get it fixed. I am able to reach under the car and open the valve without even jacking the car up, and while it is draining I will then jack the car up in a way that hopefully more of the oil gets drained out. I could do an entire oil change without jacking the car up at all if I had to. It is a good product in its construction and materials, but the extra oil not being drained out and the slow draining are legitimate criticisms. I would only recommend one to someone who is trying to make oil changes easier (live in an apartment complex perhaps) or is trying to ensure that an aluminum pan does not get ruined. Good video, on a legit topic. Thanks dude.

As far as the slow draining, it’s pretty quick when the oil is hot like you suggested earlier. I was hesitant to put one on my vehicles because I hate adding a point of failure. But after 3yrs on one of mine, it’s pretty awesome and I have 0 issues with it. After doing many oil analysis’s, the difference between before and after installation of the valve regarding your concern about residual oil left over was nothing. Driving conditions cause more of a change in the analysis than that did. If you’ve ever taken your car to a dealer or somewhere else for an oil change, they likely don’t even wait till it’s dripping, so that’s a moot point there.

I have used a Mityvac 7201 since 2016. Works great on trans & diffs fill & extraction. I made custom hoses and ends for my specific needs.

I love the fumoto valve. You wouldn't have to struggle removing the plug like you did here. Also wouldn't have the mess either. No chance of of stripping the threads/developing a leak. Easy to get test samples. Just attach the vinyl tube to the valve and straight into an empty oil container. No mess! Not sure about this particular oil pan but check that the threads are the same length as the stock drain plug so it doesn't protrudevinto the pan butbis flush with yhe bottom. Also for this pan you should definitely angle the car to get more out.

I've had one on my 2005 Jeep TJ 4.0L for 15 years after installing a skid plate that limited access to reach the drain plug. Also have one on my 2013 Abarth 500. Never a problem and enjoy having them

Instead of tilting the pan you should have pulled out the fumoto valve out to actually see how much more oil you could get with the drain plug. I had these valves on approximately 40 pieces of equipment and never had any issues with the oil hot as it should be when you change the oil. You can drain your oil when it is extremely hot without burning yourself like you would with a drain plug.

I use the “Valvomax”, it’s a stainless ball valve with a screw on cap. Insert connector and opens the ball valve to drain through tube. Has been almost as fast as a drain plug.

Thanks for going the extra length to set up an experiment but when you change your oil you're supposed to do so with the oil warm so it will be less viscous and therefore less likely to take forever to drain and if you jack the car up on its 2 front mounting points the oil pan is at an angle which negates the leftover oil issue.

It drains a lot quicker when the engine is warm. I'd say it's a non-issue when the oil is hot. Lot less likely to burn your hand as well because you never get it on you like you often do with the drain plug.

Seen em on generators for my whole career,theyve been around for probably 30-40yrs before that. Cant say ive really had an issue with one,other than the factory not tightening one enough. And we use vacuum pumps to drain oil anyways.

I have used a few and love them. Yeah they drain slow but it's alot cleaner....and if you are doing your oil changes every 3-5k then it shouldn't be an issue...and settled crud is coming out at the start. If it's a concern, you can always remove the valve yearly to check. Other benefits are partial drains for samples, and reduced likely hood of damaging the pan or drain bolt.

Thank you. This is good info. I was considering the valve for on some of my vehicles.

With the Fumoto, I can change my oil with a phillips and flat head screw driver to open up the plastic shield which is nice. I change my oil early and often so the bit of left over isn't a big issue.

I use the Fumoto I change oil in my garage for our three vehicles and sometimes it’s a perfect storm when you rip the drain plug out and the oil hits your catch pan like putting a spoon under a faucet.

I have it on all of my vehicles, had it in my motorcycle too, no more washers and torque drain bolts

Old used oil is thinner so if you change it right after driving it and jacking the front up tilts the pan back a bit you won’t have much left !

Not sure if this even is beneficial but usually when I drain the oil and it has stopped dripping, I pour a bit of fresh oil in from the top and more dark used oil starts to come out of the pan again. After that has drained I then put the plug back, otherwise I'm left with oil in an opened canister that I have no use for anyways.

It was so slow because the oil was fresh, I have used that valve for a while now and it drains pretty quick because the oil gets thinner over time. I also usually drain it while warm. Doesn't even take 5 minutes. Seeing how much oil was left in after the plug is out really surprised me. That's an engineering issue

I ve used this valve and a different one for years no problems love them

These valves are in a category of needs I never (still don’t) thought I needed.

I have run these Fumoto valves for years and yes, they are very slow draining compared to just removing the plug. I just let it start draining and go back inside the house for a half hour or so. It really does save me from making a mess.

Fantastic test. Used one of these on my STI when I changed oil every 2k (big turbo, e85). Biggest benefit IMO is being able to run a drain hose directly into an empty jug. Don't have one on my current car and probably won't get one again. Just not a big deal.

I hope you do a video with driving4answers

The left over oil doesn't really matter since most people who keep up with maintenance usually change there oil to early anyway. As for the valve being to slow also a non issue because first thing i do is open the valve then go take off the filter, grab the new filter and prefill it and put it on and by then the car is drained. Close the valve and top her off. Instead of wasting time messing around with the oil drain plug that mysteriously got tighter since the last change. You can spend the time messing around with the oil filter that mysteriously went from 1/2 a turn after gasket touching it to tool tight. Also a plus of the fumoto is it never makes a mess.

Gshock squares are my fav. I have a 5600MS that I've been wearing since 2010 when I went into the Marines.

I have used them in the past. What I liked about it was I could change the oil on my car without jacking it up. I could slide a pan under and reach the valve with no issue. I didn't care how long it took. I opened the valve then did other stuff and came back later.

I’ve got one of these valves on my car. Never had a problem with it. The oil is draining so slow because it’s room temperature. Hot oil drains so much quicker. I always change my oil hot so that all the crap in the system is suspended and runs out. I have a lift so I also do an under vehicle inspection in grease wherever there is a fitting while it drains. Nice video👍

What do you think about oil coolers?

This channel is amazing

Firstly like you said the oil needs to be hot. Secondly if you where changing the oil on a level like on a lift where the car is level then yea there would be quite a lot of oil left. But if you where a DIY and only had the front of the car lifted high enough to get under, then it might just be the same with the drain plug (level surface) vs. Fumoto (one side of the car raised). Opposite of the drain hole.

Big advantage of these valves is if you have to get an oil change at a garage, they are not using an impact wrench to strip your drain plug threads. or if you have teenage kids they are not over or under tightening drain plug i put them on two of my cars it is a bit slow, but I park on a sloped driveway so more will come out and let it drain a while with a warm engine. makes it foolproof for people overtightening or under tightening pan bolt. they make a bunch of different models the newer ones are a bit faster flow with a bigger hole through the valve you can get short versions to not stick down too much or right angle and you can put a hose on to drain right into a bottle. you can buy different protective latches to keep handle from accidently opening but it already has a built-in notch to hold handle closed.

The Valvomax system is similar, but I love it. No mess, and with a hot engine, I drained completely in 3-4 minutes. It'll drip for a few more minutes than that, but I'm never in a hurry.

Not sure what direction is the drain plug on your car. Will it drain the oil completely if it’s on ramps?

I put it on my car once. It was an ordeal given the limited space I had to put it on. But I was excited for how easy the next oil change was gonna be. Next oil change runs around and it’s time to change 7 qts. It took maybe 45 minutes to an hour to drain all the oil out. I gave up and took it off. I’ve got no problem with the drain bolt now.

I just got one because its o-ring seals better than my drain plug w/crush washer 😅

I would like to know if thats the correct angle for the drain pan as it would be in the car.

I appreciate the bearing placement. We used to have that brand stocked at work. I have no idea what they were actually used for, other than to give to mechanics and say "idk why, but this reminded me of you" lmao

I blame Puccii if my Olds Shaft fails daddy Netgear lmao

I have one on my Forester and will put one on my Crosstrek when it gets to 6000 miles. Draining right after driving makes it empty much quicker. The best part of the change is slipping a tube over the nipple, other end of the tube into the used oil jug, flipping the switch, and having everything just go right into the bottle. No dumping of a drain pan, and no fishing out a hot, nasty plug to then clean off. While it drains, I change the filter. Go back under, close the switch, remove the tube, and that's it.

So far I warm up my car and it's sort of tilted when I change the oil with the fumoto.

Well for all the oil left after removing the drain plug, does that oil pan even sit level on the engine as it does in that stand???

Love em. I can change the oil in 5 mins in my daily with it. Had it on my Subaru for a lot of years and my metro.

Went with the valvomax a while ago, totally satisfied with it

This is reassuring for our 2 vehicles with fumotos. Plus i do these two vehcles on ramps with front raised. Not too corcerned about residual oil as i do mine often enough. Not sure fumoto valve causes more sidual oil though.

Using the tube extension will help the drain speed some. Not sure about the subaru oil drain plug orientation but I jack up my 240 on the oposite side to help drain more oil out. I also pour in some fresh oil while the drian plug is still open to help flush some out. I buy the 5 quart jugs so i know about home much will be ledt over so I pour that in once i get to the dribbles.

Why is the bearing there?

So does this mean that using a pump to pump oil out of a Subaru oilpan might be better than actually using the drain plug?

Solution looking for a problem.

I like the research usually the oil will come out quicker if it’s warm from driving, using new room temp oil or cold oil will take ages

when oil is more warm it goes faster from pan for sure

Besides the time to drain. Arent you supposed to jack up the front end of most sedans/coupes to make sure the oil drain correctly? I own an 01 civic and the manual says to jack front end up to make oil pan drain hole be at the bottom of the engine without and angle.

If the pan was in the car could you jack up one side to get more out?

thank you netgear

Definitely a niche for some specific oil pan drain designs, but definitely beneficial for drain plugs that pour straight vertically, I have one on my cummins and it makes oil changes a breeze. It's good if you like taking oil samples for testing, but even keeping it, you can always just screw it out like a normal plug, but definitely not necessary for every use case. Love the vid, Netgear and Feed!

Something else to keep in mind is if you're changing your oil in your driveway your car is gonna be up on ramps or on jacks so you got a rear-ward rake going on. If it's on a lift or over a trench though it's going to be EXACTLY like this experiment.

Netgear is so dumb. He should have taken off the oil fill cap to make it drain faster

Good info. Now the question is how deep the dipstick reaches from the very bottom. Probably, it shows the "no oil mark" when that undrained oil is still in the pan

You can connect a manual extraction pump to the tube to get that last bit.

I have a valve o max , it drains quickly. But I also use car ramps. So Im getting a better result with that angle. I also Use a good filter every time.

I use them on my semi, makes oil changes a breeze, and no more stripped out drain plugs. Never an issue in all of the years I have used them.

More netgear. Nice. ❤

What I do like is... No oil drain pan need with the fumoto valves because of how slow it goes. You can drain directly into a empty 5 quart oil jug. Which means less mess for me trying to empty my oil onto a container afterwards. One downside? The valve can get dirty from normal driving specially if living in dusty areas of the world(like I do). I usually will spray parts cleaner or a bit of WD40 onto it before opening it up. So if yours comes with the plastic clip/cover make sure to always put it back on when done. Mine didn't come with one unfortunately. Oil pans are different in different cars & these results will vary a little from each. I've been using mine for 10 years in one of my cars and have been pretty happy with it. Yes it is slow but with the added benefit of less mess in my book. I go have breakfast/lunch or do something else while it drains. On another note... I want to modify the valve on the thread side and make a cut or hole to allow a little bit more oil out. 🤔

Ive been using it for awhile. For fumoto, you have to warm up the engine. Its a shit ton better than stripping.... also i use a tube.... drive around the block warm level and done

Can you just flush the old oil out with some fresh oil? Alternatively, can you trim the threads of the Fumoto valve?

The random camera zoom ins 👌👌

I use a fumoto on my truck with an aftermarket skid plate. Instead of it spilling all over the inside of the skid plate i can use tubing and direct it all into the oil catch pan with no mess. Love the fumoto valve

Well it's better than the gush of hot oil when you remove the plug. If the oil was hot would you have the same results?

Hilarious! Watching the oil drip and and camera fall and drain stuck this was entertaining and informative. I will never use those things

Could you simply drill (crossdrill) through the male threads of the fumoto? Then once you screw it in, the last bit of oil would drain through your strategically placed holes?

Well being a subaru guy and seeing this. WHat if you simulate jacking the car up on one side??? so more oil flows out of the pan?

Besides all the other problems with that valve, oil pans are dirty places. I feel like that valve would get clogged if there was any debris or sludge in the oil. Cool test Netgear. Thanks bro.

I need a video about the aftermarket replacement part brands. All the forums say only buy OEM parts but it's not 2006 anymore, the parts are discontinued

I feel like these valves are for convenience for diy oil changes in your driveway. When people bring these to the shop it takes up significantly more time to do their oil change.

love the drip in the into

How about carefully grinding down the length of the threads so the threads don't protrude so far into the oil pan allowing more oil to drain out? Any reason not to do that?