Another favorite of my own thumbnails if I say so myself ugh I should do this for a living but I'm too busy being existential AF (as portrayed in the thumbnail (which illustrates the video's title and theme (form supporting the narrative (cinema))))
@ShyGugАй бұрын
Review of The Seventh Seal/ other Bergman films when?
@lionheartz1337Ай бұрын
friedrich "BKC" nietzsche back at it again to explain to us why Arceus is dead and how we killed it the moment Finchinator was allowed to grip the reigns of power.
@ElceePlaysCivАй бұрын
If you gaze for long into the Kev, the Kev gazes also into you.
@algar6616Ай бұрын
BKC is the bridge to what we may someday become
@theskullboy8700Ай бұрын
“How shall we comfort ourselves. The sweepers of our sweepers”
@pantslesswrockАй бұрын
BKC stands for “Beth Killed Context”, a warning for what his sister would do to his writing after his death, warping it into a call for proto-Nazi German nationalism
@GeneticallyMortifiedАй бұрын
bkc could actually affect results with his influence, luckily none of his viewers are good enough to vote
@Gold_Gamer_100Ай бұрын
This goes for every smogon tuber if we are being truthful
@F3XTАй бұрын
the gatekeeping is real
@yourdaganАй бұрын
Lmfao
@yourdaganАй бұрын
@@Gold_Gamer_100too true
@MonaiInvitationalАй бұрын
I regularly watch BKC videos, yet voted no. The suspect had an open ladder component so if you cared and were good enough, anyone could vote.
@an8790Ай бұрын
It's truly No Country for Old Gamers out there.
@AnitaFatBjАй бұрын
Literally just watched that movie. Masterpiece
@MijzelffanАй бұрын
Interesting how lopsided the result was to no ban considering most spectators appeared to assume it was going to be a surefire ban result
@misalignedmisanthropistАй бұрын
Almost as if people who actually play the tier have different opinions to those who are just spectators🤔🤔🤔
@Xalvadore505Ай бұрын
Everyone but the people good enough to qualify to vote wanted it gone
@greattitan371Ай бұрын
Makes sense considering the people that know the meta the most are less likely to vote in favor of completely shifting the meta by banning a tier staple.
@oORoOFLOoАй бұрын
It hard to define who should be alligable for bans as, high ranked players of a tier are likely people who put time into it, and they did so because they enjoyed it. But you cant let people who never or bearly play the game to make the decision either. Thats an issue for older tiers, only people who like it as it is play it. If you ask people "if we ban x, will you start playing the tier" as some sort of filter, it is garuanteed most people who said yes wont play anyways, as they simply dont care for the tier dmthey dont play and ae busy doing other stuff.
@misalignedmisanthropistАй бұрын
@@greattitan371 same reason when people ask why snorlax gsc or tauros rby isnt banned in OU, they dont know enough that for old gens the current meta has stagnated for a good part and changing it unnaturally with bans will ruin it
@mistergrool3941Ай бұрын
This video is just the "am i out of touch no its the children who are wrong" meme
@yourdaganАй бұрын
He's only 28 btw.
@peterholmes7440Ай бұрын
People will say “Just use Spiritomb because pressure cuts Dynamic Punch’s PP to 4” then complain that their Spiritomb stall doesn’t work
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
It's like those chuds saying "just use Whirlwind, Taunt, and/or Haze" when people want Baton Pass neutered in OU.
@ravenstires1747Ай бұрын
If they won't ban Reuniclus just add Arceus to BW OU. Problem solved. 👺
@peterholmes7440Ай бұрын
Just unban Darkrai
@varelasenseiАй бұрын
Machamp not being banned is fine, because the problem is actually the combination of No Guard + Dynamic Punch, which is what SHOULD be banned, but the oldgen councils are so far up their own ass they'd rather let the tier rot. Reuniclus is a different story. I do think Reuniclus needs to be looked at again because I don't think simply letting the mon be is ok. But who am I to judge? I'm a BKC viewer.
@eggman713Ай бұрын
My good buddy Ryan Gosling has been unable to fall asleep since the last BKC upload. Finally some peace.
@AuristmusicАй бұрын
it feels to me that any tiering action in mons has to first overcome the significant portion of players whose primary motivating factor is proving they are more skilled than the people who want to ban the thing.
@redwarrior118Ай бұрын
I guess at the end of the day we're just spectators voicing out an opinion. Judging by the comment section, a majority of the comments agree with BKC's opinions but only a small percentage are willing to participate in public suspect tests to fight for said opinion
@peperoni9757Ай бұрын
@@redwarrior118and an even smaller percentage has the skill required to get reqs
@F3XTАй бұрын
@@redwarrior118 in my case I'm only interested in actual balancing because I find it to be a very cool topic, but I couldn't bother to actually play, I guess a lot of people can be like that, it also feels like a lot of the people talking on the forums are the opposite, they are very good at playing but not particularly interested or good at balancing
@algar6616Ай бұрын
This was a very dark episode, the life lessons shook me to my core
@selk8389Ай бұрын
If they keep BW Reuniclus unbanned, they should make Arceus-Bug OU.
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
some people wanted Lugia in OU ROTFLOL
@duelme1234Ай бұрын
Dumb question. What's the difference between Machamp d punch fishing and rachi iron head flinch fishing? Not just in terms of effectiveness but in terms of what principles/lines that one crosses but the other doesn't. I'm genuinely curious. From my uneducated perspective, banning iron head on rachi and banning d punch on machamp are logically consistent IF we just consider the PRINCIPLES involved.
@F-00Ай бұрын
one side the effect is there with you, you have to Iron Head with Jirachi to have the chance to Flinch, on the other side all you have to do is click Dynamic Punch and then you are free to do whatever you want, but you still benefit from the Confusion you inflicted on your opponent
@marcoasturias8520Ай бұрын
Fighting actually hits for super effective damage
@Aurora_VeillАй бұрын
I think you are right that banning iron head on Rachi and dpunch on machamp would both be logically consistent, but I think players see iron head as less egregious bc it’s a) half as strong b) worse attacking type and c) 60% instead of 100% Also flinch is less impactful than confusion
@Aurora_VeillАй бұрын
Tl;dr d punch hits harder than i head, and confusion is much more annoying than flinch
@BongyesАй бұрын
I dont know jack squat in practice but maybe because countering flinch is easier (just be faster. Inner focus or steadfast can work too) than confusion (i think own tempo ability is the only way aside from.berry and the only user i know is Spinda which will simply die upon being hit with dynamic punch). Plus jirachi has 60 percent to flinch while dynamic punch Machamp has 100 percent to confuse while dealing more dmg.
@AndrewRKennyАй бұрын
I'll say this: at least with Reuniclus they actually ran a suspect test. Even though I don't agree with the result, I'm glad that there was a test to produce the result in the first place. More of those at the very least would be nice.
@mehdidelteil3672Ай бұрын
I watched BW2 Smogon Classic lately, I think around the semi-final and more, 1/3 of teams run Reuniclus, it was crazy, with the same type structure (spikes, etc.).
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
Well, if you want to win, you follow the meta.
@ShatteredQvartzАй бұрын
I hope we can have this conversation about Clef on ORAS in the near future
@karurasenseiАй бұрын
I knew this wouldnt go anywhere. Getting people to actually change something in an old gen is like pulling teeth, regardless of how objectively fking stupid something is
@Mage_Nichlas_28 күн бұрын
Don't worry BKC. One of the league nights at my local bowling alley is the same way People complain about this and that or this for the whole season and when the rules meetings for the seasons happen they're like "Yeah the rules are fine. We don't wanna change anything.".
@epicgamersaurusАй бұрын
What music do u like BKC
@BKCplaysPokemonАй бұрын
rateyourmusic.com/collection/BKC/r5.0
@Spicynugz223Ай бұрын
Sometimes a game we used to love is no longer for us. Be it a player base or game design decision that we feel powerless to affect, we can only strive for an ideal game state that will never exist or reminisce of fun times in the past for so long before it begins to feel overwhelmingly hopeless that we are at odds with someone (player/developer/even politicians to extend to real life) who does not value or stand for the same things as us. It’s disheartening for sure when you feel really invested into something you want to see be great take steps away from that goal. Such is Pokemon. Oddsmaxing with suboptimal teams is accepted by the high end player base across a lot of gens, but rather than quashing the atrocious examples of sleep moves or dynamic punch, we recognize their broken elements and rationalize it with really specific examples of counter play that are exceedingly limiting on teambuilding. If the player base would rather jump through those hoops than make their game more conducive to deciding the better player (evident in Smogon’s shift in to policy a decade ago to move to banning Pokemon over uncompetitive moves/abilities), then of course the best strategy as a player is to max odds regardless of player skill.
@gavinyeet5821Ай бұрын
Never have I seen the term "maxing" used in such a brilliant way. Also just very applicable to many aspects of life
@galaxian23Ай бұрын
the reason we have bans is because ppl aren't having fun and complain better player winning is irrelevant if everyone enjoys tier but better player losing, nothing would happen ever complaints are what cause bans not anything else especially prevalent these days due to discord where people work themselves into believing something in their secluded group
@mushi1480Ай бұрын
There's no better Birthday present that a piece of this wonderful cake called... Smogon Tiering Drama My favorite 🍰
@wentoneisendon6502Ай бұрын
Happy birthday!
@amberhernandezАй бұрын
Hap birf!
@MajinBuddhaАй бұрын
Happy birthday 🎉🍰
@mushi1480Ай бұрын
@@wentoneisendon6502 thanks bro :)
@mushi1480Ай бұрын
@@amberhernandez thanks bro :)
@patrickstar8132Ай бұрын
Was waiting on your response to this decision 🙏🏾
@nicolasromani3523Ай бұрын
I have never played gen 5 OU. But i like giving my opinion on things i have no knowledge of. So i'll just say: if the majority of games end with a Calm Mind Reuni vs Calm Mind Reuni, that makes the meta cringe, so banning the troublesome mons would be based.
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
The preservation of Machamp by the coward Smogon Tiering Council
@BlowjabbadahutАй бұрын
17:00 my favorite part of the video
@Loris7173429 күн бұрын
Old gen communities: these tiers clearly have problems and need to be changed but we are too afraid to majorly change the tier so we’ll pick the least consequential broken thing to ban Old gen communities once the least consequential thing is chosen: vote a resounding no ban
@waaaaaaahАй бұрын
things are heating up in the BW OU community
@ryan_ford522Ай бұрын
I know there's probably reasons deeper than what I'm about to say, but I'm not at all surprised neither got banned because they're slow mons It seems to more often than not go that way if a problematic mon/strat is on something slow, unless it's near 100% undeniably egregious. Otherwise it takes a ton of revisiting the issue until it finally happens maybe
@Kuroig53Ай бұрын
(I wrote a longer comment about this, but it was kinda a unrelated ramble, so I am rewriting it a bit here) Are there any particular strategies in pokemon you hate fighting against, but do not consider ban worthy and/or a net negative for the game? I ask that because some of the talk in the video reminds me of how people say they hate playing against polarizing stuff like grapplers and zoners in fighters, but most people who say that wouldn't want them actually banned. The vitriol towards them is usually exaggerated frustations about some stuff about them, while they recognize they are a net positive for the diversity and fun of the game, or that they aren't actually unbeatable, just annoying to fight fot their usual style Obviously I am not saying stuff like dynamic punch machamp isn't ban worthy lol. Specially because fighters that require quick and precise inputs, an are quite different from a long turn base strategy game like pokemon, where in the former is more doable to just outskill your opponent powerful stuff as ya play Just wondering ir anything in pokemon sometimes bring those kind of feelings for ya
@disasterarea934119 күн бұрын
I think the thing is what they add to the game. paralysis on its own can lead to interesting strategies, and it can be very skill intensive to use effectively, even though it has a significant luck element. it definitely adds a lot to the game. but i think anything more obnoxious than paralysis and freeze probably should go.
@SnagavitchАй бұрын
Just hit the halfway point in the video and promptly lost a game turn 4 due to 2 confusion hits in a row followed by a crit :-)
@nSenuhАй бұрын
BKC
@ryan_ford522Ай бұрын
I know there's probably reasons deeper than what I'm about to say, but I'm not at all surprised neither got banned because they're slow mons It seems to more often than not go that way if a problematic mon/strat is on something slow, unless it's near 100% undeniably egregious
@DankfortАй бұрын
Plz bring back sun. At least it would bring something of interest to the tier. Literally Ttar + Magic Guard + 2-3 Regen mons is becoming so stale. Rain is totally suffocated and Drag Mag is the only other relevant strategy which is less dreadfully boring than sand but still nothing special. Crazy Reun wasn't banned. Shit has been broken for over a decade. Or just fucking get rid of Ttar. I have no idea why its extremely restrictive presence has never been addressed or even identified. And I'm not anxious about changing the tier radically at this point. It sucks shit. It sucks a hell of a lot more than it did when Dugtrio and Gothitelle, perennial shitstains, were still allowed.
@daburgerninjaАй бұрын
Big sand keeps winning
@algar6616Ай бұрын
“Imma go to the gym and then do things later”? No need to slap me on the way out
@thsand5032Ай бұрын
A big reason why I didn't improve much at smogon singles in my last years of playing the game, and a big reason why i eventually ended up stopping altogether is because of how closed off and unwelcoming the community can be. People will be absolutely awful to you when you're not good and I think that's also a reason why people stick with tiers they don't enjoy : having to learn a new tier means being worse for a time, and the community won't let you get away with that.
@hypphenАй бұрын
real asf as someone who just started playing recently
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
Gaming is just like that, in general. Not all top players have the obligation nor time to educate strangers on how to play their game. In most cases, either you get good yourself or stay bad. That's just how it is.
@fandenovelas777Ай бұрын
Depends find the right people some rooms aslo can help but as far i saw u have some right affirmations in there (half of the staf/players that were decently good were banned of scams or corrupts
@hypphenАй бұрын
@@ShinyTillDawn i mean fair but ive been in fair more welcoming communites compared to smogon tbh
@123321cpuАй бұрын
They won't let you get away with being bad? As in not letting you on the website or not allowing you to queue up a game? Nothing like that actually happens. If you are playing with low rating, no one generally cares about what you do or how you think. I get that might lead to rampant toxicity, but as others mentioned, that's just gaming in general.
@notjack249129 күн бұрын
If Froslass caught a ban no one wanted for potential Para + Confusion + Snow Cloak cheese no one ever used, then I'm fine with Machamp getting nuked
@mirkostefani6327Ай бұрын
I Remember when bkc talked about gem , where people who win with something broken will refuse to ban it , I guess the same happend again , since they are the one who win constantly win they won't be banned
@majelalover8837Ай бұрын
the video title is so emo
@BKCplaysPokemonАй бұрын
Check out Ingmar Bergman's Silence of God trilogy, with each masterpiece surpassing its predecessor: THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY, WINTER LIGHT, and THE SILENCE
@Dave_Chrome29 күн бұрын
Why not have a vote for banning No Guard? Machamp line was the only line who had it in DPP, Guts Machamp would stick around
@cunuggetcentral225026 күн бұрын
To be perfectly fair tho, why didn't you vote in the Reuniclus suspect? The results could have been different if the people who were pro ban actually came out to vote, ABR being the biggest other example, how can you make the change you want to see if you're not putting in the effort?
@dadorage1695Ай бұрын
Really don't understand how Smogon tiering is so up their own ass, the turnover rate is pretty bad, people are leaving more than they are joining, especially in lower tiers and they don't want to ban mons to freshen a tier to bring new people into it
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
because the higher-ups are so arrogant that they think they are right in everything and won't listen to other people's opinions. They want every generation of OU to run the same way for consistency's sake.
@CMSonYTАй бұрын
Where the heck are you getting your numbers? You do realize all games degrade right?
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
@@dadorage1695 OK, for whatever reason, my reply was removed. The administrators of Smogon are the type of people to think they're always in the right and shudder at taking criticism, even if they don't play the tiers (unlike the tiering councils). They think there needs to be some consistency and that every generation of ou should run the same way.
@HighMightyWeaselАй бұрын
Rewatching all of BoJack Horseman within a week means you watched about 1 season per day. Damn.
@ReggieKSanshireАй бұрын
Finch: “Am I really going to defile this old meta for a power trip? *OF COURSE I AM!”*
@amale44129 күн бұрын
I heard the Reuniclus vote was influenced by the votes of: Ainchinator, Binchinator, Cinchinator, Dinchinator, Einchinator, Finchinator, (...), Xinchinator, Yinchinator and Zinchinator, truly astounding what he'll do to save stall.
@hansoskar1911Ай бұрын
from the outside it looks kinda like a natural development. as the metagame ges more known and the people still playing get deeper and deeper into it the small diffrences level out the remaining diffrences become more important e.g. some good RNG with Dynamic Punch confusions. and where years ago the skill diffrences were big enough to overcome a bad confusion it isnt anymore. and for players that are worse it is perfectly rational to try and add some variance into the game. nothing wrong with that. and yes its the same people that purposeflly employ more RNG against a better player and then complain when they fall victim to a worse player doing the same. you ban the stuff that break through reunicles bc its too broken and cant be controlled and then reunicles becomes dominant. and as everone knows that you get a lot more games that come down to who e.g. crits first in the reunicles war. 25 turns prep, then 20 turns reunicles war then oops crit into gg. yeah, that's kinda unsatisfying.
@toastprobably9774Ай бұрын
Why did Machamp have to stay legal??? I'm so tired of sash Machamp leads beating specs Heatran on DPP ladder /j
@NyloxmcАй бұрын
Hey guys im getting into BW ou, and I'm playing a lot of rain. Whats a good switch in to reuniclus after it's gotten a calm mind of two off?
@yourdaganАй бұрын
Standard 6 Rain doesn't have a good and real switch-in for it. You can Trick it with Latios or Encore it with Politoed. Best bet is probably Nasty Plot Thunder and then revenge it.
@alessandroparducci4952Ай бұрын
Every day we stray further from Arceus
@reun1clusАй бұрын
I hate how my boy is still NOT banned!!! WHYYYYY!!! It is a really huge constricting presence in the meta 😭
@joeng7424Ай бұрын
Can I ask for the replays in the video?
@rykermeinel6153Ай бұрын
Sarah Lynn?
@Yearofthebows24Ай бұрын
The reason we ban things is because they are uncompetitive. What does that mean? It means something is so centralizing that you need specific (usually a sparse and/or weak) pokemon or its too RNG dependent and turns the game into coin flip simulator. Swagger is uncompetitive because it becomes a 50/50 that you kill the big threat or the opponent sweeps you. This was more obvious when Klefki was introduced. If you think Machamp, Scald, or anything is healthy for the metagame, allow the test. Bring your teams that benefit from the lack of these and show why these things are healthy for the metagame.
@shady8045Ай бұрын
a lot of early birds today, proud to be one of them.
@Gear1211Ай бұрын
I got my popcorn ready
@corasolagalarАй бұрын
Biggest drama of the last 24 hours
@DGFTardinАй бұрын
Ban rain
@phantom370Ай бұрын
The thing you're missing with Machamp situation, is that "high level players" complain about it, but the general player base dont see it as the primary problem with DPP meta/tier. Hell, most of them weren't even aware and or using Machamp until this issue generally arose. And after the way Froslass was handled, cant blame the general player base for not wanting to ban pokemon, moves, or abilities. Most people were in favor of a suspect test, but they never saw him as the main issue. Certainly not over Jirachi, and say whatever you want about Jirachi, but vs Machamp, Jirachi has far more impact on the tier as a whole. And your stockholm syndrome reference, that's how the common players feel about top players views when it comes to Jirachi. The top are disconnected. If you want to ensure the better player wins, then you need to eliminate all RNG aspects of the game to make it "fair" and "balanced".
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
That's like saying the general public should have a say in how a vaccine should be tested and which medical drugs are safe to use. Most of them wouldn't know what they're talking about because they don't have professions in the medical field. Thus, who decides this kind of stuff is reserved for the medical experts who actually have the knowledge and credibility.
@phantom370Ай бұрын
@@ShinyTillDawn Implying that the average player shouldn't be heard due to their lack of "professional" knowledge is condescending and off-base. This is not about specialized skills; it pertains to a game where the overall gameplay is influenced by the input of all participants, not just a select few elite players. The viewpoints and encounters of the wider community are crucial in grasping the complete extent of the game's equilibrium problems.
@SussyBaka-nx4geАй бұрын
@@phantom370 if the objective of Smogon is to provide a maximally competitive metagame then yes the average player shouldn't be heard. The problem is Smogon winds up making decisions that baffle both "for fun" and competitive players and nobody is happy, yet people keep playing because game freak can't into singles and showdown is free.
@nickbitle8852Ай бұрын
I think people resist change. Obvious I know. But ultimately poor decisions catch up eventually. Stay strong kev. Arceus will smile upon us someday.
@TheHero136Ай бұрын
I was actually trying to get people to discuss just banning Dynamic Punch for Machamp but just got shut down over and over. It’s very infuriating to see this immaturity where we can’t just have a reasonable discussion. This was a very easy solution that just got destroyed immediately. Also where is the video of Pokémon’s regional forms in early generations? I know it was months ago but it seems interesting.
@roberte.o.speedwagon6043Ай бұрын
If God was real, why doesn't he get involved in Smogon tiering more often smh. Checkmate Christians.
@marcoasturias8520Ай бұрын
He prefers to play ptgc
@nickbitle8852Ай бұрын
Gottem
@MaahirMomtaz12Ай бұрын
Situation just as bad as Trump's assassination attempt
@GrimslyRyuzakiАй бұрын
May as well ban critical hits, full paralysis chance, sleep entirely, make freeze flat turns ect. Because confusion is so bad!
@marcoasturias8520Ай бұрын
Don't forget infatuation!
@DJFracusАй бұрын
critical hits can't be banned while keeping it a simulation of cartridge mechanics, it's a different game at that point same with "full paralysis chance" same with making freeze turns consistent banning sleep entirely though? based
@redwarrior118Ай бұрын
@@DJFracus sleep clause and freeze clause aren't either, but they've done it. Such a slippery slope to ban rng
@ShinyTillDawnАй бұрын
Sleep clause and freeze clause are in Pokémon stadiums 1 and 2, but that's about it
@zoeygeorge2403Ай бұрын
inshallah
@rozisroses1351Ай бұрын
BW OU is the greatest metagame ever
@shawverno.1130Ай бұрын
This is very representative of the political state of the United States and the societal norm of passivity and inaction in the face of legitimate issues (I’m like half joking but the parallels are kinda obvious)