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Reworking support towers will always have either the biggest backlash or the biggest approval just because of the impact they have on buffing towers or debuffing enemies, ESPECIALLY those that buff other towers

The Voice lines are so MID now 😭🙏 Edit: CAN YALL IN THE REPLIES CALM DOWN ITS AN OPINION + im not glazing john or meat riding him, i think the new ones sound weird

Reworked commander is considered an A-tier instead of a S-tier to me. what would have made the change better is if the caravans had more health as they can get one-shotted by stomps. A good change would either to make the price of the caravan ability lower or increase the health to the caravans. It’s my person opinion but yeah.

I Do actually think this rework was a nerf for the commander, tho the remodel was 100% necessary, the stat changes to be honest weren't very needed (except from the part where the ability gets stronger the more you upgrade commander which really makes sense and i dont understand why wasn't a thing before), expecially the range nerf, commander's base range is smaller than soldier's base range, which is uhh, annoying to say the least. And the new ability, like corso said, its pretty useless in the late game, the APC's don't even have atleast 1k health, that definetly isn't very helpful in the late game with enemies that have like 3,5k health each

i would like his rework more if it still leaned more into its supportive capabilities instead of getting a summon and forcing its abilities to be stretched out across the roles that tds has a fun rework wouldve been that it doesn't have call to arms but it buffs its attack speed buff over the round the more damage it deals so it forces strategic track coverage and justifies that INSANE range nerf

Me: I don't wanna play with you anymore. *Drops commander*

paradoxum games is working on making the game less dependent upon towers such as commander and dj (dj rework soon???). they want people to use more towers rather than just the "meta". i think that this is a good approach since it allows for more "obscure" and unique towers to be utilized and allows players to pick whether or not they should bring the farm, commander, and dj loadout as it takes up 3 of 5 whole slots. 🤓

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Bro the voice lines sounds like hes going through 14 year old puberty voice cracks 😭💀🙏

Basically a dj that doesn't buff range or nerf cost I'll still use it cuz it's the icon of every good loadout

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The APC with explosives has flying detection on top of the rest of the things. So even tho it is a bit worse in support the commander is now the first tower that spawns units that directly attack and damage all types of enemies.

ever since john and razuatix left tds, the devs have been slowly getting rid of them. yeah, there's the john militant skin, but now there's no john voice lines for commander. they even removed raz and john statues from rocket arena.

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the reworked commander is probably gonna be one of the best clutches in hardcore because the caravan total hp for each commander is 900hp and times that by 3 thats 2700 hp and they're gonna be able to shoot before they die to a boss like speedy king they're gonna be able to do 125 dmg thus 3 caravans is a total of 3075 dmg total with ramming dmg and its a bit better than military base in terms of clutching mid enemies that could one shot your base but overall military base is better for clutching the base but the caravan is more reliable due to it being optional to spawn the caravan

Didn't even finish watching the video but I already knew it's good

The missle apc is burst unit(burst of 4) which means its dps is calculated differently

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I agree with everything you said, except for the last words. The commander now in my opinion is still not a good tower because of the attack radius. Before the rework, players had the choice of taking a DJ or a commander, there was one good option. Take the commander. Since its radius always allowed it to reach all the necessary towers. Because its radius was 20. Now, even under DJ with the value rounded, it will have 19 and Polluted Wastlelands is a good example for this. 3 commanders reached 3 key points where players set up their defenses. Now it won’t be possible to do this; one of the commanders will not reach the towers with his radius. 2 The commander's ability does not help him and does not balance his price. If the ability were free or if these armored vehicles had a thousand HP each but were paid to summon, I would take it as a balance, although it still makes the commander weaker, but it at least somehow balances him out, because at the moment these cars are useful up to a maximum of 29-30. On the boss wave they are generally useless, because the Fallen King dies with one stunning blow. That's why I don't think the commander is still a good tower. His nerf does not allow him to be in the S+ tier. I would put the commander in S or A+ tier. This is my personal opinion.

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commander's range may be small, but we got dj and range flags for this

I’m still bored of tds even if they change anything

I think this update is a good one as i said in a previous video of someone elses channel the new ability(to me) makes up for the lost 5% of firerate and the range as i think it does good dps especially if you spam all commanders ability at once even tho the commanders main ability cooldown got increased just sell it and replace it like seriously also for voice acting its fine johns va was a bit outdated even tho theyre iconic plus neko commander is the best skin because of the trains gg

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I think a good buff for this new rework is to remove the cost for using it's unit ability. Sure, Mercenary Base has a similar ability, but it costs less, and at the point at where you max it out, it's pretty guaranteed you'll have a ton of money, especially if you're playing a special gamemode like polluted wastelands. Overall, a pretty good rework. A lot of people were complaining on twitter that it was killing the commander overall. But, even if the firerate bonus was only 50% instead of 55%, any firerate buff that isn't a conaumable will always be S tier.

This update makes you think before placing the commander now, because before the range would just cover the whole map with DJ

i feel like this is an amazing change, im sure this change will show its worth once more of the new difficulties planned for the game eventually come out.

i think the micro is gonna be harder for new player but easier for good player since in that 10 sec cooldown for cta is good for replacing other tower and the new ability only cost 3k which not that expensive for those who got cheap high dmg and it will be sure spamable with all player equiping comander

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They pumping out updates make me wanna come back and play tds again

Eh is a fine change. I do like the support caravan that changes from skins.

A good change for the game IMO, though it DOES indirectly buff every mode in the entire game because one of your support towers now grants less boosts. Doubt the funny hardcore on triple path map is still possible now, for one.

Honestly the skins make up for the nerf that it got, and commander is still great so all good imo

I only use commander for the buffs and now it’s like they want to make it a normal tower

This means it’s a spawner/buff/dps unit like it’s what all you can ask for it’s perfect

Yes, also please show every apc im to lazy :(

yea hate this update no joke..

LITERALLY THE TB COMMANDER ABILITY...

its about A+ tier for me now.that 5% can make a diference on polluted wastelands or smth like that so uhh yeah A+

They kill it 🗣️🔥‼️ (i don like no more chain, they could set in 40s but limit of 4, you waste more and need more places, but keeping the chain)

This rework is honestly, pretty nice. I think it's well needed, making you think much more using the tower now

The ability for the army vehicles may not be the best, but the spawner tower challenge got an add-on.

I feel like this is going to effect a lot of strats, especially hardcore strats

commander? I barely know her!

im a dj main,but neko commander skin is finally cool now

Now we need classic commander skin with chair and john voice

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Voice lines and new ability makes me fine with it

"HUGE REWORK" 💀

Dang I can see all of the strats like Lucille and stuff imploding because commander was such a big part of it.

2:39 in my testing, the ability lasted until the cooldown was 27/28, so chaining is still possible for the most part

L rework, the John voice lines were better than anything they could make and iconic too. At this point they’re just letting TDX get better

BEFORE YOU CRY AT MY OPINION AND SAY NOBODY CARES AT MY REPLIES I DONT CARE BOZO Hi I'm Elec, I am a TDS player I sometimes do some stuff that help some people. (former strategiest of a hardcore strategy from April 2022) Commander overall, feels like a DPS tower rather than a support tower. It can deal about 20k damage in total in a Fallen Match. The current Pros and Cons I can find is: Pros: Commander now does 60k dmg (3 of it) in a Fallen Game. DPS buffed from 6 > 12.5 APC spawning, very cost-eff for 3k it does about 150 dps with high range. Cons: Loss of 30-45% of the range. Literally lost of level 2 on 1/3 of it's ability. Level 2-3 now sucks. (for the most part) Placement limit of 4 Lucille the most used hardcore strategy had to make the strategy literally use ACCELERATOR making it ST, that's how bad the Commanders nerf is. This makes Commander somewhat trash in about solo games. I tested this with a loadout purely dependent on Commander (fully buffed). The loadout was Farm, Militant, Turret, Ranger, Commander. I'm telling you. How long it took me to kill the Fallen King. Commander just feels like, it's not a support. It's not like the Commander I feel before. The lower range makes it feel like a Tower Battles copy. This just truly ruins many strategies, making some more RnG or even impossible. As DJ is somewhat better for solos just because it fully buffs towers to it's range and discount and not Commander only buffing by about 45% (average). It's still an amazing tower required for literally every gamemode, it just don't feel the buffs it feel before. Rating: Solos: S+ > S- Duos/Trios/Quads: S+ > S Overall Ranking: S It is still, the best tower but it's now like nerfed. The support it gives is less which I give it a lower grade, for solos DJ gives a better buff which I am not happy about. After some considerations from the replies earlier that don't agree on my opinion or saying I'm a nerd or I yapped, they're you go I realised you will still use it regardless. Feel free to disagree in the replies cause I honestly don't care about your opinion and you can't change it!

The Lucile strat might have to make a work around for this new rework

You forgot that calling the caravan is like making à call of arms, making this ability useful as you can chain it in the late game (idk if i'm right or no)

pros: Looks cool Cons: They removed John's voice It is more expensive the best mechanic in the game is screwed up, commander chain They turned a tower that is Suport into a DPS tower (nonsense) result: dogshit

L update bro

10 tower battels out of 10 ( darn i liked so much getting lvl 2 comander early )

I think my main issue with the commander nerf is that its late game range was overnerfed, and its ability is just not worth it at all. For the same price you can get a tank which can do the job of all 3 but better, alongside being free and having slightly less recharge time. If the ability was on the 2nd to last upgrade and then the last upgrade made them better it would actually have a place in the game, but as of right now the summon ability is entirely useless.

I think might need to be in a consideration when bring it to Hardcore mode, with the stats change like this the available strat that exist now will need huge rework regarding placement and stuff. My opinion is that this count as nerf because the stat change is massive and it's one and only support tower that give necessary buff for dps.

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best thing: the two towers that got reworked (mil base, cmd) i own since 2022, since i’m pretty bad at tds in the modern time

For me, this is the first tower to get a nerf rework instead of the tower back then that got buff rework

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What i dont like about support towers is that any tower that debuffs enemies does not work against bosses which makes every stun tower etc totally redundant last wave against the biggest threat

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its cooler but they need to revert the call to arms abbilty and give the apc a little buff

hey corso, with the reworked commander does lucille strategy still work?

i think new commander having a 10% or 5% dmg buff could make up for its firerate debuff

The reworked commander seems pretty good. The only thing i would improve on is the APC units having a lot more health as they get destroyed in later waves easily. Also, reducing the cooldown may be beneficial as chaining is no longer fully possible. Overall however, they made a tower that was once pretty boring and felt forced to use in loadouts to a cool tower with a pretty nice gimmick. Also neko commander my beloved

I think the missile APC has more DPS because it shoots 3 rockets with 50 splash each so the dps is higher

good to see tds devs doing some wild changes and additions to the game

Commander is now abit better with the 50% fire rate buff and the cooldown of 30 seconds of CoA returning and the Caravan ability is now 2k(idk if it returns the changes for the abilities from this video after PVP testing ends or the devs just decides to buff it on the Brawler Update

The placement limit really changes alot of strats.

Its funny because his max level speed boost is a 50% which is pretty much still the same to the old one

I love the new commander and all the skins but I feel like if they made it a max of 4 placement limit chaining would be alot easier and because of the way smaller range how are strats like lucille going to work?

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The most crucial changes i just can't really ignore is the range nerf and the new voicelines. I'm really gonna miss the og one by john.

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All I like about this commander is the new model, the design looks clean ngl 🔥, however... the firerate nerf was just devastating, I feel like it was a little bit unnecessary, a range decrease and a placement limit would have been good enough. Still, this rework isn't the worst in the world but stuff like this is why I barely play TDS anymore (or any TD games in general).

0:38 why is the price green if it’s been increased? Shouldn’t it be red like the first level you showed? And why is the firerate red when it’s increased? That’s a good thing, shouldn’t it be green?

final level got the tower battles vibe huh? (but different types)

the firerate buff can be fixed with firerate flag so it does 70% on ability

Truly it's not 10 seconds of use of his ability its around 12 so it will be 4 seconds waiting. Strange that almost no one saw that.

a support tower and a spawner tower.... feel like I heard this one before

This reminds me of when the shotgunner use to have swat cars

I think the design of the default commander. A max level looks like a war veteran We saw many wars. You could tell because of his eye patch. And the more darkened clothes. You know, he's a war veteran.

Now it will be harder for players that have the commander mission to do 40 call to arms boost

At least there are still SOME good things about the commander

There we go

Atleast we can still chain! (It probably Will turn into 1 and we cant win on commander based strats)

i think that summon ability is cool for tower that only buff firerate

Uh oh is there still no placement limit for comms? And who remembers what happened the last time commanders buff got nerfed (hardcore music starts playing)

i havent kept up with this games updates for like a year and now everything is reworked😭

The only reason they added vehicles is because tdx did a collab with tb and they are doing tb commander collab tower

Ah yeah this commander what i placing, only i placed 3 commanders in crossroad. As always doing the same strat myself.